The Small Library

Tirloque · September 2, 2019

V2.0
- Dedicated blog, separated from the Chronicles of Mereth
- New Category Illustrated Text
- Added Symphony FF.
- Added Molag T.
- Added Out of order S.
- Added Mereth Chron.

Hey guys !

The small library is now a fully fledged blog ! Besides the library that you know, and which will be updated as usual, it will feature detailed blogs reviews (with ratings to stimulate people :kiss: ), and partial restorations of deleted blogs. And so it will live a bit more than the previous library, and do so in a better suited place (IMO), as I understand that the library's readers might not necessarily be interested in the Chronicles, and vice-versa.

To the updates then :

@The Gauntman, @Lukaslegend , @Yosih I don't want to bother you guys, but some great entries are left dormant, and it's up to you to wake them !
@Nuka Raider69 After due deliberation (with myself ?), as you have already restarted your stories, I have decided to maintain your current blog as active and not out of order. I still consider Child of Darkness as a deleted blog though, as you already know
@djregs I updated your blog's feature image and description. I had quite a lot of others images I hesitated with, some quite lewder, some covered with text. So if you want another image, just send it to me !
@Alter Native I saw you updated your summary entry ; that's nice; Yet you previously asked to report if some orthographic mistakes were made, and I think it's "fiance" rather than "finance" twice, and her "beliefs" instead of believes. You asked. I also updated your feature image to make up for it.

@Irstina, @Forshare & @Desvati, congratulations for your nomination !

The order of the blogs also was a bit scrambled, as it wasn't really up to date ; but some of it is subject to changes once I'll have made the detailed reviews. Keep in mind that though the blogs are indeed somewhat "ranked", their maintenance has a big impact over it, and so if your blog ends up going towards the end, it's very likely that it is poorly maintained.

That's it folks !

The Gauntman · September 2, 2019

Thank you Tirloque, you do a great job with the blog. It made me want to update, not much but I added the ending to Jones and put up the ones after Omi CIty Heat. That one has the link to DL so I will leave it be. The others did not.

Alter Native · September 2, 2019

2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

@Alter Native I saw you updated your summary entry ; that's nice; Yet you previously asked to report if some orthographic mistakes were made, and I think it's "fiance" rather than "finance" twice, and her "beliefs" instead of believes. You asked. I also updated your feature image to make up for it.

Thanks for the update. I'll fix it when I do the update after Chapter 7 next week.

I'm not sure how I feel about the gif category or rather the choices for it. Crw0 has some gifs but most of his stuff is static, so the comic category might be more fitting, the same is true for Amanda's blog (I didn't know it even had gifs...).

Resdayn · September 3, 2019

Ohhh my I not expected this at all ?

Im curious about the detailed reviews and other things. ?

Looking forward for it, especially for my own one haha ?

Illustrated text do fit more well my stories and blog in general, Im glad you added that.

Partial restoration of old deleted blogs? Can you tell me about more, whats in your mind?

Crw0 · September 3, 2019

6 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Crw0 has some gifs but most of his stuff is static, so the comic category might be more fitting

Well, yes. I didn't post any gif stuff for ages. Time to do something about it ^_^

September 3, 2019

You added very good bloggers. I really love Irstina's work. By saying that I don't mean that two others are less worthy, just that she has a style that suites me more.

Tirloque · September 3, 2019

14 hours ago, The Gauntman said:

Thank you Tirloque, you do a great job with the blog. It made me want to update, not much but I added the ending to Jones and put up the ones after Omi CIty Heat. That one has the link to DL so I will leave it be. The others did not.

Woohoo, I didn't expect such an enthusiastic reaction ! Fixing your blog, even partially, was the best thing I could've hope from that update, Gaunt !

Now, to be honest, archives aren't a great substitute for images in entries, as they require a download and won't be read in order by most computer programs (it'll be image 1, then image 11, then 12 for example). But there's no hurry, and if a choice had to be made, the ones left to be fixed are in fact only Omi City heat only (as that's the point where you started doing comics). So when you'll have the time (there are usually three to four months between library updates), I still consider it's worth your efforts. But I'm amazed by your reaction already : that was a nice present for the community, Gauntman ! :thumbsup:

And so I used the occasion to update a tiny bit your blog's description. :classic_wink:

14 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Thanks for the update. I'll fix it when I do the update after Chapter 7 next week.

I'm not sure how I feel about the gif category or rather the choices for it. Crw0 has some gifs but most of his stuff is static, so the comic category might be more fitting, the same is true for Amanda's blog (I didn't know it even had gifs...).

Adding a category has the advantage of offering more exposure to some blogs (Crw's and Hats lady's are on top of the gif category, whereas if not they'd be in competition with Wanobi's, Spy's and Cema's for the comics ; and Collygon's + Irstina's for illustrated text). And that while Crw's and Hats lady's work deserve some special spotlight. So there would be some drawbacks for them if I were to delete that category. ?

That being said, this library is meant as a part of our community activity, and so as a place where the authors can also express themselves. So if they feel their blog isn't in the right category anymore, or if the want something changed (like the feature image, some parts of the description) ; they can just ask. I can't guarantee I'll accept everything but I won't bite !

14 hours ago, Alter Native said:

I'm not sure how I feel about the gif category or rather the choices for it.

Malicia : « Then you should very listen to your heart, and be true to your feelings, Mr Native.

That's what they say in the movies, at least. »

12 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Ohhh my I not expected this at all ?

Im curious about the detailed reviews and other things. ?

Looking forward for it, especially for my own one haha ?

Illustrated text do fit more well my stories and blog in general, Im glad you added that.

Thanks Resdayn ! It was indeed needed, as it is an exercise clearly different in style than writing subtitles.

Well I think you have a bit of an idea of what the detail reviews will be. The only thing, is that I took in consideration what was said about it, and so there'll be no global ratings but ratings by "criterias/domains" so to speak ; plus they'll only be on the individual blog page. So the comparisons won't be forced upon the readers/authors (though still possible). But, the review will only be a part of the entry, there should be more depending on what the author has made and agrees to. :classic_wink:

12 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Partial restoration of old deleted blogs? Can you tell me about more, whats in your mind?

Review + under that one restored entry (or two halves of entry).

8 hours ago, Crw said:

Well, yes. I didn't post any gif stuff for ages. Time to do something about it ^_^

It's how you feel like, Crw ; but your work used to feature at least one gif per entry. Now if you feel they are unneeded and want your blog to be considered as a comic, feel free to ask.

Crw0 · September 3, 2019

1 hour ago, Tirloque said:

It's how you feel like, Crw ; but your work used to feature at least one gif per entry. Now if you feel they are unneeded and want your blog to be considered as a comic, feel free to ask.

Hah, no, thank you, Tirloque. I just meant that I'm going to do something gif'y

SpyVsPie · September 3, 2019

I think I would change the order of almost every single one of those categories ? ?

Tirloque · September 3, 2019

6 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

You added very good bloggers. I really love Irstina's work. By saying that I don't mean that two others are less worthy, just that she has a style that suites me more.

Well Irstina's work graphic quality is truly spectacular, and the text part is a bit shorter than Desvati's. But his work is quite impressive as well (he had one of the biggest Skyrim adult story blog of Tumblr). Forshare is more accessible, despite really making stories only quite recently ; but he tends to insist more on the "phantasm/kink" aspect of the scenes, and is technically less advanced than the two others.

4 hours ago, Crw said:

Hah, no, thank you, Tirloque. I just meant that I'm going to do something gif'y

I understood that alright ; I was just inquiring if you wanted to remain in the GIF category or not. :classic_wink:

28 minutes ago, SpyVsPie said:

I think I would change the order of almost every single one of those categories ? ?

Actually the only ones I went through true marks comparisons to rank them so far were your blog compared to Cema's, as I couldn't really figure out that case without proper method. I wanted to do so for Personal Insanities vs Perversity, but I lacked of time, and the fact the second was a comic really impacted my decision. As for the others, there are 4-5 blogs that have lower ranking than they should due to poor maintenance.

But as I said, it was a really fast rough appreciation for most of them. And so it's subject to change. once I'll have the reviews done (which will be quite progressive). I still made an effort to rank according to objective criterias rather than my preference, and so current order should be a bit better than the previous one in that regard.

Anyway, if you want to debate on specific examples, I'm open to discussion.

Malicia : « You're very right Mr Spy, Tirloque messed things up very badly, and so there are very nice stories, with cookies and intelligent people, which ended up right in the middle !

That's what happens when you're not an expert, uh. :classic_sleep: »

Resdayn · September 3, 2019

I think you should not rank stuff, wasn't the original idea of yours getting readers notice those works and read it, especially ones what they not notice?

If you rank them, thats sorta already failed, cause nobody gonna read those you rank at the bottom, even worser if someone miss them due those ranks, when they actually wanted read something like that in the bottom.

Without Spy pointing out, I not even notice it.

Now Im not sure with detailed reviews now.

Tirloque · September 3, 2019

21 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I think you should not rank stuff, wasn't the original idea of yours getting readers notice those works and read it, especially ones what they not notice?

If you rank them, thats sorta already failed, cause nobody gonna read those you rank at the bottom, even worser if someone miss them due those ranks, when they actually wanted read something like that in the bottom.

Tell me Resdayn : were exactly do you see the rankings ?

Nowhere ? Indeed, the rankings are invisible, and it is not said in the entry itself that there are. I said it to you authors in my comments as, since my discussion with Spy I knew some suspected it ; but once we'll hit the second page of comments, it'll be forgotten.

The purpose of the library entry is to gather the works the authors put enough effort into, so that they can all be found in one place. And that despite not having the spotlight of the blogs main page anymore. That means all the blogs featured here are worth in some way. Point. :classic_smile:

But some will be worth only in the eyes of people liking one precise type of entertainment ; while others will get addicted even the most volatile of readers. By putting those last ones first, I ensure that the passerby realizes how much value there can be in our stories, and make him/her more likely to come back here to search for others blogs.

21 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Without Spy pointing out, I not even notice it.

Now Im not sure with detailed reviews now.

Detailed reviews will serve different purposes. For one, they'll allow me to partially restore lost work. For two, they will be a precise description of current blog features, and I think grades are part of that.

There won't be global blog grades, but only grades by domains.
The grades won't be displayed in the library entry.
There won't be grades comparisons in one same entry, at least for the part I have full control over.

Ideally, I'd like the reviews to make authors realize the strengths and weaknesses of their blog, as authors are very likely to compare then to others. See it like emulation.

But for readers, they will probably read the reviews one by one, and if they see something they like/attracts their eyes, they are likely to try discovering the blog without making any type of comparison beforehand. And so the reviews will give even more spotlight to featured blogs, independently of each other.

Those reviews (which won't be purely an evaluation), but will aim to make that discovery easy and attractive.

I must confess I am myself a bit unsure of how that will be received. But I think a good way of making the readers pay attention to the reviews is to make them really more informative than the library. And some may use that to make comparisons, but I assure you, calculating the global gradefor a blog, even with all the grades under the eye is quite tedious (they're not numerical), and I don't see anyone but authors doing that. ^^

Tirloque · September 3, 2019

6 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Now Im not sure with detailed reviews now.

I should precise one more detail : due the the detailed review's content, I will most probably contact the author beforehand. And so if said author does not want the review to be published, it simply won't.

So if you don't want a detailed review of your blog, you won't have one. That's how simple it is. :classic_wink:

Resdayn · September 3, 2019

1 hour ago, Tirloque said:

Tell me Resdayn : were exactly do you see the rankings ?

Nowhere ? Indeed, the rankings are invisible, and it is not said in the entry itself that there are. I said it to you authors in my comments as, since my discussion with Spy I knew some suspected it ; but once we'll hit the second page of comments, it'll be forgotten.

The purpose of the library entry is to gather the works the authors put enough effort into, so that they can all be found in one place. And that despite not having the spotlight of the blogs main page anymore. That means all the blogs featured here are worth it in some way. Point.

But some will be worth only in the eyes of people liking one precise type of entertainment ; while others will get addicted even the most volatile of readers. By putting those last ones first, I ensure that the passerby realizes how much value there can be in our stories, and make him/her more likely to come back here to search for others blogs.

Detailed reviews will serve different purposes. For one, they'll allow me to partially restore lost work. For two, they will be a precise description of current blog features, and I think grades are part of that.

There won't be global blog grades, but only grades by domains.

The grades won't be displayed in the library entry.

There won't be grades comparisons in one same entry, at least for the part I have full control over.

Ideally, I'd like the reviews to make authors realize the strengths and weaknesses of their blog, as authors are very likely to compare then to others. See it like emulation.

But for readers, they will probably read the reviews one by one, and if they see something they like/attracts their eyes, they are likely to try discovering the blog without making any type of comparison beforehand. And so the reviews will give even more spotlight to featured blogs, independently of each other.

Those reviews (which won't be purely an evaluation), but will aim to make that discovery easy and attractive.

I must confess I am myself a bit unsure of how that will be received. But I think a good way of making the readers pay attention to the reviews is to make them really more informative than the library. And some may use that to make comparisons, but I assure you, calculating the global gradefor a blog, even with all the grades under the eye is quite tedious (they're not numerical), and I don't see anyone but authors doing that. ^^

I should precise one more detail : due the the detailed review's content, I will most probably contact the author beforehand. And so if said author does not want the review to be published, I simply won't.

So if you don't want a detailed review of your blog, you won't have one. That's how simple it is.

Well they are invisible, but one can see it if it look hard, ya Spy kinda made it more obvious in sight. ?

Something what noticed can't be hidden anymore. ?

I personally disagree with its existence, even fits subtle ?, I feel its pretty meaningless to talk about, but I have my own thoughts on it, but see no point talking about it.

I get readers look different kind of entertaiment, not everyone like the same thing, but how do you plan them get the right one?

I see and wait, about reviews and the entire thing with tihs, then make judgement after.

Contracting them before hand is good decision, let them know the thing, before they get something what can cause issues.

Tirloque · September 4, 2019

14 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Well they are invisible, but one can see it if it look hard, ya Spy kinda made it more obvious in sight. ?

Something what noticed can't be hidden anymore. ?

I personally disagree with its existence, even fits subtle ?, I feel its pretty meaningless to talk about, but I have my own thoughts on it, but see no point talking about it.

One order of presentation must necessarily be chosen, there is no way around it :

Blogs' age. Older blogs first. At the risk of frustrating the reader by clicking some mostly unavailable or even out of order first.
Alphabetical order : same problem, readers may stop if the one on top position isn't good enough. Plus once authors understand why Almost A Princess Tale gets the first place, we could see some well though blogs name changes. ^^
Personal preference. Purely arbitrary, possibly biased, but at least a bit harder to decipher than through defined criteria.
Popularity : already popular blogs would get more popular at the expense of already less popular ones. Accessibility and fan service may also prime into that kind of sorting ; but at least if wouldn't be me choosing it.
Displayed quality ranking : less bias, more chance to get the reader want to discover more, but more direct competition for the authors.
Hidden quality ranking : same than before, and a bit less frustrating for the authors. This is the current one.

14 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I get readers look different kind of entertaiment, not everyone like the same thing, but how do you plan them get the right one?

Categories. They'll know if they do enjoy some text or if they can't stand anything than comics beforehand.
Precisely with quality ranking withing each category. Which induces that the first one presented is more likely to please a great proportion of readers, than the last. Which is why I do start by the ones supposedly having the best rankings.
And there's the blog description, though it's very short, and would be expanded in detailed reviews.

14 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I see and wait, about reviews and the entire thing with tihs, then make judgement after.

Contracting them before hand is good decision, let them know the thing, before they get something what can cause issues.

Yep, I intended to do so beforehand anyway. There will be a possibility to refuse the review if one prefers so.

Irstina · September 4, 2019

I AM actually still alive, but my estimates are wrong as usual :classic_tongue:

Along with my procrastination I also have like 195 (with a few possibly slated for removal, but still like 190+) screenshots instead of my estimated 150ish, which means that the next entry is actually longer than the other ones put together, oof. Unfortunately there was no good way to split it up due to the way I format things with each Chapter being through a character's eyes.

All I still have to do is some minor photoshopping and another pass through the text. Thanks for the nomination regardless!

I'm banking on a quicker turnaround for the next thing as the scope won't be quite as absurd and I won't be on hiatus before starting on it. Sooo, Soon(TM)!

Tirloque · September 4, 2019

45 minutes ago, Irstina said:

I AM actually still alive, but my estimates are wrong as usual

Along with my procrastination I also have like 195 (with a few possibly slated for removal, but still like 190+) screenshots instead of my estimated 150ish, which means that the next entry is actually longer than the other ones put together, oof. Unfortunately there was no good way to split it up due to the way I format things with each Chapter being through a character's eyes.

All I still have to do is some minor photoshopping and another pass through the text. Thanks for the nomination regardless!

I'm banking on a quicker turnaround for the next thing as the scope won't be quite as absurd and I won't be on hiatus before starting on it. Sooo, Soon(TM)!

It's good to know you're alive. Though with "young geek found dead in the explosion of her computer, the cops suspect she was trying to reconstitute the great war" we would've known. :classic_biggrin:

Jokes aside, your work is outstanding, and your nomination well deserved. If I were you though, I may consider still doing the chapters through a characters' eyes, but possibly doing two in a row with the same character. That would allow you easier splits, and so more presence in the main page (though the library is there to get around that problem).

But, authors' freedom first ! Do what you think is best. :classic_wink:

On 9/3/2019 at 12:16 AM, Alter Native said:

Thanks for the update. I'll fix it when I do the update after Chapter 7 next week.

Don't know if you're aware, but since yesterday cubeupload seems down.

15 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I see and wait, about reviews and the entire thing with tihs, then make judgement after.

I have reconsidered. As much as I'd want the readers to get an as accurate as possible description of the blogs, I think I do care about the authors more than I do about the audience.

So the grades & rankings will remain hidden. :classic_smile:

Resdayn · September 4, 2019

8 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

I have reconsidered. As much as I'd want the readers to get an as accurate as possible description of the blogs, I think I do care about the authors more than I do about the audience.

So the grades & rankings will remain hidden.

Im happy to hear that, accurate decriptions can help to get the readers know what kind of blogs they can into.

But I think grades and ranking would not help for this, not underestimate how much they can influence people and how much can piss of people too.

Your goal was a library for the work, lets keep out the things what can change it to something else.

While the blog orders in the category might be a tricky question, it may be not that optimal but I would still pick one what gives all the choices equal standing, with no hard feelings.

Hidden quality one you use is subjective, one can argue about forever, like Spy said.

I honestly not sure about the GIF section's existence or the difference between the illustrated text and subtitled, seems just pointless extra categories.

Anyway I wait and see, lets see what the reviews and your plans bring, then I make judgement and decisions.

Alter Native · September 4, 2019

37 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Don't know if you're aware, but since yesterday cubeupload seems down.

Yeah, thanks. I already noticed. Don't know what's going on there. Typically it's reliable, but if it's not going to get fixed I might have to switch image hosters.

Irstina · September 4, 2019

8 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Jokes aside, your work is outstanding, and your nomination well deserved. If I were you though, I may consider still doing the chapters through a characters' eyes, but possibly doing two in a row with the same character. That would allow you easier splits, and so more presence in the main page (though the library is there to get around that problem).

In retrospect, I should've probably figured out a way to split it somehow since it's so long! But there wasn't really a good place to do it because of the way it flowed - splitting it at the middle would've made the second half much more eventful than the first, it could probably have been done with some re-writing, you'll know what I mean when I upload :classic_tongue:

The next one ought to be more in line with the others in terms of size, though it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong~. Next time I have a really long one I might do something like "Chapter 4.5 / 5 " for a shorter wait, probably helps with my motivation to get things done too.

Tirloque · September 4, 2019

4 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Yeah, thanks. I already noticed. Don't know what's going on there. Typically it's reliable, but if it's not going to get fixed I might have to switch image hosters.

4 hours ago, Irstina said:

In retrospect, I should've probably figured out a way to split it somehow since it's so long! But there wasn't really a good place to do it because of the way it flowed - splitting it at the middle would've made the second half much more eventful than the first, it could probably have been done with some re-writing, you'll know what I mean when I upload

The next one ought to be more in line with the others in terms of size, though it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong~. Next time I have a really long one I might do something like "Chapter 4.5 / 5 " for a shorter wait, probably helps with my motivation to get things done too.

Well, you seem to be in the category of those who can't compete with the most active bloggers in terms of publishing rate. So in that case, the rule of the thumb would be not to make things worse than they are already. My last chapter of EoP was supposed to be 160 images long : I decided to part it in 60 - 100, and released the second one not too far from the first, so that the readers would still have the previous part in mind upon reading the second.

In that precise case that backfired though, as my headers were extremely close from one another, and so there were very likely a significant amount of readers who thought I had simply bumped my previous entry. XD

Also, the loading times should be taken in account (195 images is a lot, even for JPEGs considering your style and resolution choice, so that might induce loading issues) ; and as you say, as an author it's a bit more motivating to have a bit more shiny entries upon clicking your blog. ^^

Anyway, you're the author, only you can take a fully enlightened decision. :classic_wink:

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Im happy to hear that, accurate decriptions can help to get the readers know what kind of blogs they can into.

But I think grades and ranking would not help for this, not underestimate how much they can influence people and how much can piss of people too.

Yep. Spy mentioned that in one of our discussions, and I took account of it.

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Your goal was a library for the work, lets keep out the things what can change it to something else.

Well, if I do restore deleted blogs, it'll had already evolved into something else. :classic_wink:

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

While the blog orders in the category might be a tricky question, it may be not that optimal but I would still pick one what gives all the choices equal standing, with no hard feelings.

Hidden quality one you use is subjective, one can argue about forever, like Spy said.

It is, but I still think of it as better than any of the others sorting orders. Plus it's not as subjective as you think.

For example, in the domain of graphical quality :

interface removal
facial expressions
poses
colors & levels (≈ ENB)
FOV & angles
grain/sharpness/textures quality
composition & artistic value
lighting
backgrounds
Photoshop.

In other words if I see a picture ill centered, with characters not posed, one of them talking standing on a table (thus with only the lower body captured), with sepia colors, a backlight darkening the locutor's face, and its lips not even open ; it's bad and it's not subjective. ^^

This relates to the discussion we had about art btw, with screenarchery being a form of art between photography and painting, and so abiding by some of their rules.

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I honestly not sure about the GIF section's existence or the difference between the illustrated text and subtitled, seems just pointless extra categories.

Illustrated text is really justified, as some readers have problems with english, or don't like reading, and so going from half a line subtitles to 6 lines paragraphs of styled english in between images would make quite a difference for them.

GIFs is more debatable indeed ; but it was a choice I did to highlight those who made the effort to add those. And it's one step closer to a video in some case, which again could appeal to different types of readers.

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Anyway I wait and see, lets see what the reviews and your plans bring, then I make judgement and decisions.

Malicia : « I gonna make you a review, uh ! Gonna rank you E - E - E for making Gwynolda crazy. And I'll say very detailed things about you, yes ! :classic_angry: »

Resdayn · September 4, 2019

I have nothing more to say to this.

I wait for those reviews and see, how they fare, before deciding anything.

Alter Native · September 4, 2019

17 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Well, you seem to be in the category of those who can't compete with the most active bloggers in terms of publishing rate. So in that case, the rule of the thumb would be not to make things worse than they are already. My last chapter of EoP was supposed to be 160 images long : I decided to part it in 60 - 100, and released the second one not too far from the first, so that the readers would still have the previous part in mind upon reading the second.

I think the creative vision comes first.

I have plenty of entry having over 200 screenshots. I just finished up some stuff for chapter 10 and the first three entries have ~250 images each :astonished: . But there is simply no way to cut this without compromising the story. Maybe a resolution reduction to sth. like 1600x900 solves the loading problem. Loverslab doesn't give you more space anyway.

17 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Illustrated text is really justified, as some readers have problems with english, or don't like reading, and so going from half a line subtitles to 6 lines paragraphs of styled english in between images would make quite a difference for them.

I actually like this separation between subtitled and Illustrated text quite a lot, now that you did it.

For example Collygon has a lot of text describing everything, facial expression etc. . I only have spoken word like a subtitle in a movie. When an actor changes its facial expression I try to show that by two consecutive images with different expressions instead of having a narrator telling it. Also huge parts of the story get carried by the images only (~20 images without a word etc.).

In Collygons, and other peoples cases you could completely remove all images and still had a perfectly reasonable story similar to a book. That wouldn't work with the "subtitled" approach.

It basically comes down whether the images are supporting the text or the text is supporting the images.

Tirloque · September 4, 2019

On 9/4/2019 at 8:53 PM, Alter Native said:

I think the creative vision comes first.

I have plenty of entry having over 200 screenshots. I just finished up some stuff for chapter 10 and the first three entries have ~250 images each . But there is simply no way to cut this without compromising the story. Maybe a resolution reduction to sth. like 1600x900 solves the loading problem. Loverslab doesn't give you more space anyway.

You're probably right. And going for slightly lower resolutions/more compression can definitely be a workaround in that case.

On 9/4/2019 at 8:53 PM, Alter Native said:

I actually like this separation between subtitled and Illustrated text quite a lot, now that you did it.

For example Collygon has a lot of text describing everything, facial expression etc. . I only have spoken word like a subtitle in a movie. When an actor changes its facial expression I try to show that by two consecutive images with different expressions instead of having a narrator telling it. Also huge parts of the story get carried by the images only (~20 images without a word etc.).

In Collygons, and other peoples cases you could completely remove all images and still had a perfectly reasonable story similar to a book. That wouldn't work with the "subtitled" approach.

It basically comes down whether the images are supporting the text or the text is supporting the images.

It's a completely different exercise. And actually I think people doing embedded subtitles or comics would be fully aware of it : you can't just fill-in half a page of text, it just wouldn't fit. You have to compose with a limited space for your text/dialogues, and it greatly influences them.

Whereas, in an illustrated text setting, adding a line just makes the next image one line lower, which doesn't changes anything. And so you can make full use of your style, and refine your descriptions to the max. And so you're right, it's much closer to a novel or a book.

SpyVsPie · September 8, 2019

I think the biggest issue with the GIFs section right now is that it just seems completely arbitrary who you included there. WANOBI was highly praised for his GIFs (and the way he added after effects to them was really quite impressive and unique) but he is still in comics, CRW uses gifs to make motion comics but he is in GIFs and so on.

Several people in the subtitles section have also switched to a comic format now (thank god! ?)

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