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Short Summary of the previous entries

 


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After having a small party with some of her vampiric friends Nora convinced Thomas, the boyfriend of Nora's friend Lenora, to stay for a couple of more days at her place.

 

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What started out as a small flirt to have sex with her friends boyfriend turns into something a lot more serious over the next days and adventures.

 

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Chapter 7 Section 7 - The Dead don't Weep

 

 


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Thanks for reading! There's quite a big change in tone and style in the middle of this entry. Initially the first part was supposed to be part of the last entry but I moved it due to length restrictions. It was suppsed to be a third stage on the vampire decadency and degeneration ladder ;)... 
The initial idea for the Stormcloak scene was an homage to the best souls boss fight ever made and lead into more soonish. It was actually quite challenging to do that scene. Try decapitating a stormcloak while he's surrounded by 30 other stormcloaks, even tfc 1 dones't prevent them from freaking out...

 
 

 

 

 

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once more an excellent chapter. 

I like her in 'the Death' Outfit, in a new interpretation, Dual wielded. 

 

Zilphia: "I like the extra Picture, she looks so sexy in this Outfit. Hmmm, would this suit fits me too?"

me: "Oh, Zilphia...."

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The best souls boss fight ever made? What fight was that?

 

"It was actually quite challenging to do that scene. Try decapitating a stormcloak while he's surrounded by 30 other stormcloaks, even tfc 1 doesn't prevent them from freaking out..."                 That must have been fun.;)

 

I like how Fina told Nora off. Nora needs to remain vigilant and not indulge too much on her sex life. :sweat_smile: It's like she was getting lazy and letting her guard down when things could potentially get crazy and all of a sudden surprise her with something she could be too late to handle.?

 

 "As everybody is moving to Twitter as of lately, I'm going to give it a try as well. So follow me for extra non Blood & Pleasure related screenshots and a couple of mods I want to release within the next couple of weeks"

 

Not me I don't have a Twitter account. Have you released mods before? I wonder what type of mods you be working on hmm... ;)

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44 minutes ago, zilvradrow said:

once more an excellent chapter. 

I like her in 'the Death' Outfit, in a new interpretation, Dual wielded. 

 

Zilphia: "I like the extra Picture, she looks so sexy in this Outfit. Hmmm, would this suit fits me too?"

me: "Oh, Zilphia...."

Thank you very much!

The outfit is a retexture of the Two Phase Outfit. I didn't like the orange so I changed it to plain black. :)  

31 minutes ago, Deso561PL said:

?:)

:):thumbsup:

8 minutes ago, Jayomms said:

"It was actually quite challenging to do that scene. Try decapitating a stormcloak while he's surrounded by 30 other stormcloaks, even tfc 1 doesn't prevent them from freaking out..."                 That must have been fun.;)

I had to disable all of there AI's with tai, not the select and tai methode, but tai without having an actor selected. Apparently these commands work differently. They are not frozen with the latter one, but they stopped reacting to me killing stormcloaks.

 

8 minutes ago, Jayomms said:

I like how Fina told Nora off. Nora needs to remain vigilant and not indulge too much on her sex life. :sweat_smile: It's like she was getting lazy and letting her guard down when things could potentially get crazy and all of a sudden surprise her with something she could be too late to handle.?

 

I liked Fina's part there as well. It takes some courage to slap Nora in the face as a human ;)

 

8 minutes ago, Jayomms said:

Not me I don't have a Twitter account. Have you released mods before? I wonder what type of mods you be working on hmm... ;)

I'll be releasing the castle I was building for Nora soonish.

I also want to release some of the blood textures I was using throughout my stories and in general a couple of resources I was building specifically for stories and screenshoting and such.

 

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Aaaah, okay. Thank you for this small Info :)

 

I hope that twitter could be a nice Place for us. I follow your Baroness (and you)

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I liked both scenes, first the decadent take on vampires in love to the point of neglecting their domain, second the death incarnate in the end protecting men from their own foolishness. The contrast between those two sides of Nora is impressive, as is the contrast between her white chin and red lips with the otherwise dark and bleak environment. Also the cum texture effect seems mastered ; and the dialogues of the first part were natural and convincing given the situation. The only thing that surprised me is Fina forcefully (even laying hands on her !) yanking Nora out of her laziness. Even though it was justified, it shows a courage Fina didn't seem to have in the previous takes on her ; but maybe war can change people. Anyway, nice tension on the Stormcloacks scene (with so many actors), and good twist at the end, with even unusually deep thoughts about war. Excellent chapter ! :smiley::thumbsup:

 

Malicia : « :classic_sleep:

 

                Yes, Nora was very nice to rescue the poor villagers from the meany soldiers. Yes. 

 

               But she still killed the first guy just 'cause he wanted to honey-honey... And she even used someone's arm to eat, like a spoon in a tin can, with dead people hanged around !

              So she could still be way nicer, you see ? :classic_excl: »

 

PS to Thomas

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Best fight ever indeed! Sister Friede is my all time favorite too in the souls trilogy, topped only by Genichiro in Sekiro. LOVED that scene with Nora in the "cosplay", you nailed it. And the atmosphere was incredible. The rain mixed with the nooses and frightened villagers was stunning. Terrific work!

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Very good one. I knew Nora has something in plan with the man whom she saved life. She learned to "calculate" over the centuries. It always surprised me that big number of people are afraid to kill one person who challenged them. Just like in the movies. I know, I know, it's not always easy for everyone is afraid of the revenge for they don't know who and how many are behind that person. Therefore, I see the revenge as powerful "weapon".

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4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

I liked both scenes, first the decadent take on vampires in love to the point of neglecting their domain, second the death incarnate in the end protecting men from their own foolishness. The contrast between those two sides of Nora is impressive, as is the contrast between her white chin and red lips with the otherwise dark and bleak environment. Also the cum texture effect seems mastered;

Thank you!

4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

the dialogues of the first part were natural and convincing given the situation.

Thanks for pointing that out. The first part was written recently compared to the other dialogues in this chapter 7 so I'm glad my writing improves and the trajectory is pointing in the right direction.

4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

The only thing that surprised me is Fina forcefully (even laying hands on her !) yanking Nora out of her laziness. Even though it was justified, it shows a courage Fina didn't seem to have in the previous takes on her ;

Yeah, you're right about that, I noticed it when I posted C7S4. She talks to Thomas about being worried about working in a vampire castle and a couple of story days later she slaps a 400 year old vampire and boss...

I noticed that that I did a poor job explaining (not necessary developing) Fina's character. Both of this is in her character, but it comes of as a bit far fetched because she'd probably needed more screen time for this to come of as reasonable.

 

Out of Nora's servants she's the clever one that is fully aware of what's going on, who Nora is etc. . She realizes that Nora appreciates her services and she knows that she's the one to be trusted with the more serious, difficult tasks. 

For example she's the one serving at the vampire dinner party, not Amelie or Stan.

She also know that Nora is actually fairly rational in most regards. She knows Nora won't just randomly kill her as long as Nora needs her. Nonetheless there's a always some risk left and Fina is pregnant, so she has good reasons to leave this place.

Given all of that she has some room to play with and is won't be in serious trouble if she'd overstep her boundaries once.

 

What's missing though is a scene where one of the villagers comes to Nora's place and tells about the stormcloaks entering the village, killing of villagers for supply etc. and Fina is the one to open the door and is the one to be in contact with the desperate and scared villager. 

 

Fina knows perfectly that Nora is capable of stopping the Stormcloaks so she needs to convince her to do so. Quickly. 

When entering the library she sees that these guys did nothing but having sex and drinking blood -for days (and nights). So she's emotionally loaded, pissed at Nora's behavior of the previous days and needs Nora to be reasonable once. So she's slapping her in affect. 

That should have been more clear, and the way to do that would have been by having an omniscient narrator that sees Fina talking to the villager and setting the tone of Fina's emotional state. 

I thought I'd ll be fine that way and I might have been. But then I added the scene later with Fina being scared about serving in a vamprie castle which made all of this feel too far fetched and out of character. :neutral: (That scene however is needed for other parts of the story later... )anyway. You're right, thanks for pointing that out. :)

 

4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

but maybe war can change people. Anyway, nice tension on the Stormcloacks scene (with so many actors), and good twist at the end, with even unusually deep thoughts about war. Excellent chapter ! :smiley::thumbsup:

Thanks! I'm well aware of the (real world) moral framwork my story is in... ( or rather supposed to be in). But it's just too much fun to have morally grey (and dark) characters do morally dark stuff.

It's also an area that's barely covered by classical entertainment, which was one of the main reasons I even started this blog. 

 

4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

PS to Thomas

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You mean this guy?

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Are you Sure?

 

 

2 hours ago, Collygon said:

Best fight ever indeed! Sister Friede is my all time favorite too in the souls trilogy, topped only by Genichiro in Sekiro. LOVED that scene with Nora in the "cosplay", you nailed it. And the atmosphere was incredible. The rain mixed with the nooses and frightened villagers was stunning. Terrific work!

Thank you!

I made sure Nora does Blackfkame Friede's finisher kill move...

I died so many times to that. 

There'll also be a Lady Maria inspired fight later in the story, but'll be a couple of chapters until then ;). 

 

42 minutes ago, EvalovesEP said:

Very good one. I knew Nora has something in plan with the man whom she saved life. She learned to "calculate" over the centuries. It always surprised me that big number of people are afraid to kill one person who challenged them. Just like in the movies. I know, I know, it's not always easy for everyone is afraid of the revenge for they don't know who and how many are behind that person. Therefore, I see the revenge as powerful "weapon".

Thank you!

But they did try to kill Nora!

Twice (the two stormcloaks that Nora killed), but Nora was faster and noticed before they could do something. Afterwards the Stormcloaks where afraid to try again. It wasn't about revenge.

I don't know what would happen if they'd try all at once, but tbh. if I'd be a soldier and would get an order like that I'd hesitate as well (for the sake of my own life. You don't want to be the first one getting too close to her).

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

Given all of that she has some room to play with and is won't be in serious trouble if she'd overstep her boundaries once.

 

What's missing though is a scene where one of the villagers comes to Nora's place and tells about the stormcloaks entering the village, killing of villagers for supply etc. and Fina is the one to open the door and is the one to be in contact with the desperate and scared villager. 

 

Fina knows perfectly that Nora is capable of stopping the Stormcloaks so she needs to convince her to do so. Quickly. 

When entering the library she sees that these guys did nothing but having sex and drinking blood -for days (and nights). So she's emotionally loaded, pissed at Nora's behavior of the previous days and needs Nora to be reasonable once. So she's slapping her in affect.

It's more or less what I thought, but indeed the added discussion with Thomas contradicts it. It could be later addressed without too much effort by adding the same kind of discussion (or only Fina's thought about it) in future chapters.

28 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

You mean this guy?

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Are you Sure?

Malicia : million_dollar_baby.gif

 

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ah Good ole Nora! :D 

i must admit i do prefer scaring the shit out of bad-guys with magic with my Characters but the old fashioned Scythe definitely get's the point across! :D

makes me wanna fix my Borked ass Skyrim SE...  but that will take some serious time...

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I could use Nora instead of Ivy now since she is pregnant. I need a female that has "balls" to face numerous jerks.

Good entry Alter.

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So are you using Bloodborne ENB for your outdoor shots? Coloring looks really familiar :)

 

So I’m reading and enjoying the comic and when I got to the massive 30 people in one shot, I myself was also thinking how are you able to do this without crashing.  

 

Really nice work btw! 

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Oh, that was a quick switch from pleasure to blood :D

Love both parts, especially Nora's sex-frenzy attitude ^_^

And all this lights and glares on armor and helmets in the second part! Sweet!

Great job!

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15 hours ago, Alter Native said:

 

Thank you!

But they did try to kill Nora!

Twice (the two stormcloaks that Nora killed), but Nora was faster and noticed before they could do something. Afterwards the Stormcloaks where afraid to try again. It wasn't about revenge.

I don't know what would happen if they'd try all at once, but tbh. if I'd be a soldier and would get an order like that I'd hesitate as well (for the sake of my own life. You don't want to be the first one getting too close to her).

 

 

> I understand but I was commenting this episode and of course, nobody likes to die first :D

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I don't know if it's necessary, and I'm not speaking on my own behalf, but I wonder if a gory-content warning would be appropriate to warn the more queasy folk! (of the severed arm). Though I realize that a moderate amount of gore has been part of this story since the beginning... :O

Thanks for the new chapter!

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19 hours ago, Tirloque said:

It's more or less what I thought, but indeed the added discussion with Thomas contradicts it. It could be later addressed without too much effort by adding the same kind of discussion (or only Fina's thought about it) in future chapters.

It wasn't contradicting it, merely hinting at a more complex character that wasn't fullly explained. It's going to be addressed in the very next entry. I kind of started smaller subplots for some of my side characters that'll all be part of Fina's story.  

15 hours ago, xGHoSTx said:

ah Good ole Nora! :D 

i must admit i do prefer scaring the shit out of bad-guys with magic with my Characters but the old fashioned Scythe definitely get's the point across! :D

makes me wanna fix my Borked ass Skyrim SE...  but that will take some serious time...

I mostly had the Scythe for the sister Friede Boss fight reference. Magic is very hard to handle in Screenshot stories as you can't control it easily via poses. But I'm getting better at it thanks to some serious cgi.

I remember you being interested in showing a bit more of your character. I'm still looking forward to it :) .

14 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

I could use Nora instead of Ivy now since she is pregnant. I need a female that has "balls" to face numerous jerks.

Good entry Alter.

Don't let her know ;) 

11 hours ago, devious-Drunna said:

So are you using Bloodborne ENB for your outdoor shots? Coloring looks really familiar :)

 

So I’m reading and enjoying the comic and when I got to the massive 30 people in one shot, I myself was also thinking how are you able to do this without crashing.  

 

Really nice work btw! 

It's all Grim and Somber Hircine, but they are not that different in the first place. 

To my own surprise Skyrim is super stable for me. I'm alt tapping all the time to look up poses and take some notes for the writing and it's never a problem. I can't think of the last crash I had while screenshoting... I can even put my PC in standby and continue working afterwards (~20 % chance of crashing but it mostly works).

So it's mostly risk free but still a lot of work.

 

6 hours ago, Crw said:

Oh, that was a quick switch from pleasure to blood :D

Love both parts, especially Nora's sex-frenzy attitude ^_^

And all this lights and glares on armor and helmets in the second part! Sweet!

Great job!

Thank you!

I'd argue there was already a lot of blood in the first half ;). Kind of a poster scene for my blog. 

2 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

I don't know if it's necessary, and I'm not speaking on my own behalf, but I wonder if a gory-content warning would be appropriate to warn the more queasy folk! (of the severed arm). Though I realize that a moderate amount of gore has been part of this story since the beginning... :O

Thanks for the new chapter!

I honestly don't know.

I was wondering about this at some point as well. I think for the most part the violence is at a moderate level with some blood- sure- but nothing extreme in any way. There is an obvious border, even for NSFW content, especially in a sexual context, that should not be crossed and I don't think I do and don't plan to do so in future entries.  

Of course the arm is a bit more on the heavy site, but when you think the base vanilla skyrim you have head decapitated in slow motion with a fountain of blood and you see the head similar to the arm on the ground. So it's really not that different. 

The Fallout Series goes even further with all kind of mutilated corpses and people. That's technically all stuff that you could encounter in the SFW section of LoversLab and given this background I don't see a reason to warn people about an arm. 

Also the arm is there for a reason and not just for the sake of it. It sets the tone and shows the bloodrush and bloodlust of Nora and Thomas. 

 

@everyone: I'm interested in more opinions on that topic. Let me know what you think about that. Should I put some warnings if needed?

 

 

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5 hours ago, Alter Native said:

I was wondering about this at some point as well. I think for the most part the violence is at a moderate level with some blood- sure- but nothing extreme in any way. There is an obvious border, even for NSFW content, especially in a sexual context, that should not be crossed and I don't think I do and don't plan to do so in future entries.  

Of course the arm is a bit more on the heavy site, but when you think the base vanilla skyrim you have head decapitated in slow motion with a fountain of blood and you see the head similar to the arm on the ground. So it's really not that different.

 

@everyone: I'm interested in more opinions on that topic. Let me know what you think about that. Should I put some warnings if needed?

Personally I consider warnings regarding common types of sexual content redundant. This is a R18+ site, people are warned about its content and asked if they are 18+ upon login.

Adding a /!\WARNING - THE MAIN CHARACTER IS GOING TO GET LAID/!\ isn't useful and essentially spoils the reader. Same for violence.

 

Now, it could be interesting in case you're going to feature content unusual for your blog, particularly regarding disturbing content like extreme violence, torture or really uncommon types of sex. Because if readers expect other kinds of content in your blog, it might be better to inform them.

 

In your case, there is "blood" in the very title of your blog, and Nora isn't known for being afraid to spill it. So a severed arm isn't really that more violent than the guy they bled to death on a diner table. So not useful. But should I publish that kind of content after Malicia's cross-over, which are almost completely bloodless, I guess I could use some kind of warning. You get the point. :classic_wink:

 

 

Someone : « I'm very glad you asked for expert advice ; more people should do it, yes.

                   I think you wouldn't need to put warnings if Nora didn't eat people like tin cans in the first place, you see ? Maybe you should tell her to stop, just like Mrs Fina. :classic_lightbulb: »

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@Alter Native > I'm not into very cruel violence but I think some people likes it. You see, some of us, readers sometimes identify with your characters and seeing them beaten or tortured kind hurt us. I can say for my Prince and myself: we would love to see the warning about BDSM and rape content for we don't like it especially if some of us were victims. So my suggestion is to put such content in the spoiler with the warning about it. In that case we may skip that spoiler and read the rest of the story. We don't want to skip reading the whole story because of one or two scenes we don't like. I'm just saying what is on my mind but you do as you like. :)

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5 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Personally I consider warnings regarding common types of sexual content redundant. This is a R18+ site, people are warned about its content and asked if they are 18+ upon login.

Adding a /!\WARNING - THE MAIN CHARACTER IS GOING TO GET LAID/!\ isn't useful and essentially spoils the reader. Same for violence.

I fully agree. Sometimes I wonder if this is more a "Look guys there is interesting content in this post -> please click" label.

 

5 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Now, it could be interesting in case you're going to feature content unusual for your blog, particularly regarding disturbing content like extreme violence, torture or really uncommon types of sex. Because if readers expect other kinds of content in your blog, it might be better to inform them.

 

5 hours ago, Tirloque said:

In your case, there is "blood" in the very title of your blog, and Nora isn't known for being afraid to spill it. So a severed arm isn't really that more violent than the guy they bled to death on a diner table. So not useful. But should I publish that kind of content after Malicia's cross-over, which are almost completely bloodless, I guess I could use some kind of warning. You get the point. :classic_wink:

Again, I agree.

I think your write up could be an interesting small note/mark in the storytellers club as this point comes up regularly. I don't want to "steal" your post.

I think it might be useful to have a thread/note to point to. 

 

I was just a bit surprised to read this from Rattlesnark. He's the last person I'd expect this kind of request/remark so it got me thinking. 

5 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Someone : « I'm very glad you asked for expert advice ; more people should do it, yes.

                   I think you wouldn't need to put warnings if Nora didn't eat people like tin cans in the first place, you see ? Maybe you should tell her to stop, just like Mrs Fina. :classic_lightbulb: »

It's Miss Fina, she unfortunately she wasn't that lucky yet. But if Nora wasn't eating people like tin cans I think I'd need to warn people of cheesy cliche vampire stories. 

 

4 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

@Alter Native > I'm not into very cruel violence but I think some people likes it. You see, some of us, readers sometimes identify with your characters and seeing them beaten or tortured kind hurt us. I can say for my Prince and myself: we would love to see the warning about BDSM and rape content for we don't like it especially if some of us were victims. So my suggestion is to put such content in the spoiler with the warning about it. In that case we may skip that spoiler and read the rest of the story. We don't want to skip reading the whole story because of one or two scenes we don't like. I'm just saying what is on my mind but you do as you like. :)

I agree with Tirloque on this point. I think by now you're aware of what to expect from this blog. We'll have a lot of blood in the next entry, but'll be also romantic... It's not as gory as it sounds, you'll see. 

But there is basically no rape on this blog, especially no violent one. 

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

I fully agree. Sometimes I wonder if this is more a "Look guys there is interesting content in this post -> please click" label.

 

Again, I agree.

I think your write up could be an interesting small note/mark in the storytellers club as this point comes up regularly. I don't want to "steal" your post.

I think it might be useful to have a thread/note to point to.

Yeah, it's a topic that resurfaces from time to time, and I nearly always feel the same about it. That being said, it's only our vision of things, but it could indeed benefit from some visible coverage in the club. Given I'm invited to, I'll gladly so a small write-up about it, maybe as a thread or by structuring the "ask any question" thread. ?

 

I've got a story post pending for the club as well, and some dusting to do in my blogs summary pages, so once I've published the final entries of EoP, I should do the write-up + structuring of the "Ask any question" thread with all those maintenance tasks. Smiley_jap_HFR.gif

45 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

I was just a bit surprised to read this from Rattlesnark. He's the last person I'd expect this kind of request/remark so it got me thinking.

Well Rattlesnark is a good reader, but it's true we sometime forget your refined members of vampires' nobility can sometimes act like the beasts they are underneath. That being said, this time it's true we didn't expect Nora's own room to became the theater of that particular amount of gory feeding. So that may be why there was a surprise factor here.

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19 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Of course the arm is a bit more on the heavy site, but when you think the base vanilla skyrim you have head decapitated in slow motion with a fountain of blood and you see the head similar to the arm on the ground. So it's really not that different. 


Oh! I really wasn't giving it too much thought when I wrote my earlier comment (maybe I should've!).
Was just a brief cross-of-the-mind as I was reading through the part. If I remembered that Skyrim had decapitations, in the intro scene no less, I would've thought much less of an arm! Hmm... Strange that I could've forgotten about it. Must've been too eager to carry on reading. 

The bit of gore doesn't bother me personally. I think the most I'd considered appropriate was a little message above the chapter to serve as a notice that the contents are slightly gorier in this episode... but it's not something needed, and quite possibly easy to miss.

Still - as we've been talking about, all the blood's part of the narrative (about vampires, no less), so I really didn't mean to make it as big a deal as it appears - sorry! :O

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20 hours ago, Tirloque said:

I've got a story post pending for the club as well, and some dusting to do in my blogs summary pages, so once I've published the final entries of EoP, I should do the write-up + structuring of the "Ask any question" thread with all those maintenance tasks. Smiley_jap_HFR.gif

Sounds great! I'm looking forward to it.

20 hours ago, Tirloque said:

That being said, this time it's true we didn't expect Nora's own room to became the theater of that particular amount of gory feeding. 

:joy: I'm glad you noticed. It's one of the things where I always felt I was too realistic, like she wound't kill someone in her bedroom due to all the mess and the blood and the smell etc... But I didn't expect anyone to consider that.

 

8 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

Oh! I really wasn't giving it too much thought when I wrote my earlier comment (maybe I should've!).

Still - as we've been talking about, all the blood's part of the narrative (about vampires, no less), so I really didn't mean to make it as big a deal as it appears - sorry! :O

I was just interested in other people's opinions as this topic pops up from time to time. 

8 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

The bit of gore doesn't bother me personally. I think the most I'd considered appropriate was a little message above the chapter to serve as a notice that the contents are slightly gorier in this episode... but it's not something needed, and quite possibly easy to miss.

I will have one of these warning in chapter 8 Section 5 as there's some gory stuff some people might want to skip... I think it was a good discussion to have.

Thanks!

 

 

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Plans for the future: 

1. Win a lottery. 

2. Sponsor Alter Native's vampire tv series. ?

 

The entire Stormcloaks scene was incredibly cinematic.  I especially liked this screenshot - everything in it was perfectly morbid and atmospheric.


 

Spoiler

 

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You did a very good job of showing that mortals can be just as monstrous as vampires. In fact, due to their age and wisdom, vampires might even end up being more civilized in this case, seeing as they learned to avoid unnecessary bloodshed among themselves. I'm very curious to find out what is it that Nora wants to ask from the villagers, though. ?

 

As for Fina part - pregnancy certainly suits her. She really turned on her 'strict mom' mode and went to yell at a spoiled child to get out of her room and go do the chores. (spoiled child being Nora, and saving villagers certainly is a chore sometimes ?) It was very well done and I really hope there won't be any repercussions for Fina. 

 

Wonderful work as always and I'm looking forward to the next part.

P.S. Ok, I've got to ask - what exactly were Nora and Thomas doing that ended with a torn off arm on the floor? They don't eat flesh so was it for that panther that Nora entertains sometimes?

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20 hours ago, Devianna said:

Plans for the future: 

1. Win a lottery. 

2. Sponsor Alter Native's vampire tv series. ?

:thumbsup: Seems like a solid plan to me, let me know when you reach step two ;) .

 

20 hours ago, Devianna said:

The entire Stormcloaks scene was incredibly cinematic.  I especially liked this screenshot - everything in it was perfectly morbid and atmospheric.

 

You did a very good job of showing that mortals can be just as monstrous as vampires. In fact, due to their age and wisdom, vampires might even end up being more civilized in this case, seeing as they learned to avoid unnecessary bloodshed among themselves.

Thank you very much! 

You're absolutely right most vampires in my world try to avoid bloodshed among themselves as other vampires are the only real threat left to older vampires. Also most of them have experienced bloodshed and violence amongst themselves and learn the lessons.

 

20 hours ago, Devianna said:

I'm very curious to find out what is it that Nora wants to ask from the villagers, though. ?

You'll learn very soon.

20 hours ago, Devianna said:

As for Fina part - pregnancy certainly suits her. She really turned on her 'strict mom' mode and went to yell at a spoiled child to get out of her room and go do the chores. (spoiled child being Nora, and saving villagers certainly is a chore sometimes ?) It was very well done and I really hope there won't be any repercussions for Fina. 

We'll have to see, but despite her brutality from time to time Nora is very rational. ;) 

 

20 hours ago, Devianna said:

P.S. Ok, I've got to ask - what exactly were Nora and Thomas doing that ended with a torn off arm on the floor? They don't eat flesh so was it for that panther that Nora entertains sometimes?

I leave that to you to picture in detail.

The panther "entertainment" was really just a one time thing, it's not something she does regularly and I won't have her do it again. It's just a "normal" pet ;). (As normal as a panther can be.)

 

 

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