Interesting ?

After such a great romance and excellent sex tragedy?! Damn!

16 minutes ago, Resdayn said:

Interesting ?

It is!  

10 minutes ago, EvalovesEP said:

After such a great romance and excellent sex tragedy?! Damn!

Well the "great romance" part was actually skipped entirely in the previous, because it would've been to time consuming to do (good romance needs a lot of dialogue in build up) and moved the focus of the flashback scene away from my initial intention. We were just told they became a couple.  

Also we already know that Yvonne lives on (at least as a vampire). 

Thanks Eva  

20 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

It is!  

Well the "great romance" part was actually skipped entirely in the previous, because it would've been to time consuming to do (good romance needs a lot of dialogue in build up) and moved the focus of the flashback scene away from my initial intention. We were just told they became a couple.  

Also we already know that Yvonne lives on (at least as a vampire). 

Thanks Eva  

Thanks for explanation. My fault was that I didn't read the previous chapter (wanted but was always distracted until I forgot). Anyway, I feel sad for what happened to Yvonne.

I keep re-reading and re-watching (does that term apply to comics?) your story about Nora almost like a TV show. Absolutely love it.  Your characters are gorgeous, the scene execution is impeccable and a lot of times it feels like watching a movie. Thank you for sharing your wonderful creation with us and double thank you for the insane amount of work that goes into these chapters. ?

Heck! That was damn touching and tricky twist.
Excellent work on the scene in the shower, sweet and sexy ^_^ It's not often wee can see Nora in daylight.
Amazing work as alwasy ^_^

wow... so what "slipped" and fell on the dagger? or more nefariousness? only time will tell!

nice work Alter Native!

1 hour ago, EvalovesEP said:

Thanks for explanation. My fault was that I didn't read the previous chapter (wanted but was always distracted until I forgot). Anyway, I feel sad for what happened to Yvonne.

There is no "fault" Eva . Also Yvonne is fine in the end. She's now happily married to a nice vampire with whom she is visiting Nora in Skyrim . 

1 hour ago, Devianna said:

I keep re-reading and re-watching (does that term apply to comics?) your story about Nora almost like a TV show. Absolutely love it.  Your characters are gorgeous, the scene execution is impeccable and a lot of times it feels like watching a movie. Thank you for sharing your wonderful creation with us and double thank you for the insane amount of work that goes into these chapters. ?

Thank you for that nice comment Devianna!

I'm glad you like it and some people go back to some of the older entries from time to time. Since I work a couple of month in advance I can do some foreshadowing of certain events and give hints for upcoming twists.  

59 minutes ago, Crw said:

Heck! That was damn touching and tricky twist.
Excellent work on the scene in the shower, sweet and sexy ^_^ It's not often wee can see Nora in daylight.
Amazing work as alwasy ^_^

Thanks, I was a bit struggling with the daylight as much as I like my night and darkness a different color palette is welcome from time to time  . So made a small compromise that it's weak morning light and no direct light touches her. 

Also she's probably willing to except a small sunburn in exchange for a shower together with Yvonne.  

Fucking hell, that was so good! So good!

10/10 would read again if I could somehow wipe my mind lol

Aria: Love, love never changes

What were those sex animations from? And the toys?

Wow, super hot sex scene!!

Loved the wet effects, specially the hair, which by the way, the short hair on Nora is oooohh la la ?

Also I had to look up the word "Neonate"

Thanks for expanding my vocabulary ?

 You did very well this chapter was so beautiful I almost cried.  The love between them is very touching some painful and loving memories it seems to be for them to talk about over dinner with friends. Very well done Ha Ha He's just a Neonate...

4 hours ago, xGHoSTx said:

wow... so what "slipped" and fell on the dagger? or more nefariousness? only time will tell!

 

nice work Alter Native!

Thanks! I don't think anything besides the strawberry juice dropped on the dagger. 

Not sure what you saw there. ?

2 hours ago, Agent Tex said:

Fucking hell, that was so good! So good!

 

10/10 would read again if I could somehow wipe my mind lol

 

Aria: Love, love never changes

 

 

What were those sex animations from? And the toys?

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. 

Some of the animations are from Leito (throne and dildo), the rest are just halo poses put together so it makes sense.

The toys are retextured and ported from here.

16 minutes ago, WANOBI12 said:

Wow, super hot sex scene!!

Loved the wet effects, specially the hair, which by the way, the short hair on Nora is oooohh la la ?

Also I had to look up the word "Neonate"

Thanks for expanding my vocabulary ?

Thank you! 

I was trying to get Yvonne wet hair as well, but I could get it to work properly. For some reason you don't get a good wet effect with blond hair the same way I get it with black hair. 

Besides being a description for a really young vampire, I like the idea of using neonate as an insult for older vampires in my world. 

2 minutes ago, Jayomms said:

 You did very well this chapter was so beautiful I almost cried.  The love between them is very touching some painful and loving memories it seems to be for them to talk about over dinner with friends. Very well done

I agree, I don't know if the whole flashback is that good (and reasonable) of a dinner talk. I could have just showed the whole flashback separately like I did in Chapter 5, 1-4. 

Glad you liked it, thanks for your comment  .

21 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

Thanks! I don't think anything besides the strawberry juice dropped on the dagger. 

Not sure what you saw there. ?

 

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. 

Some of the animations are from Leito (throne and dildo), the rest are just halo poses put together so it makes sense.

The toys are retextured and ported from here.

 

Thank you! 

I was trying to get Yvonne wet hair as well, but I could get it to work properly. For some reason you don't get a good wet effect with blond hair the same way I get it with black hair. 

Besides being a description for a really young vampire, I like the idea of using neonate as an insult for older vampires in my world. 

 

I agree, I don't know if the whole flashback is that good (and reasonable) of a dinner talk. I could have just showed the whole flashback separately like I did in Chapter 5, 1-4. 

Glad you liked it, thanks for your comment  .

 

Nah... just the face time between Nora and Yvonne really is what I was referring to.

6 hours ago, Alter Native said:

There is no "fault" Eva . Also Yvonne is fine in the end. She's now happily married to a nice vampire with whom she is visiting Nora in Skyrim . 

 

 

You just saved me from depression. I'm glad Yvonne's destiny turn to a happy end and hope she enjoy in FF/m sex with Nora and her husband

Great entry. I liked how you depicted the relationship between Yvonne and Nora, it added a lot of depth to the story and made the sex scenes more meaninful. Same as the felldew theme and the danger of the vampires' den, both creating a thrill for the reader. Not to mention that bath scene was hot as hell (nice hairswitch, good play on the water wetness). And the dressing up/off effects do seem mastered. So some images are a real visual pleasure. Great entry !

Malicia : «  She cut her own throat with scissors ! I guess she didn't like Nora's house after all, no. »

4 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Great entry. I liked how you depicted the relationship between Yvonne and Nora, it added a lot of depth to the story and made the sex scenes more meaninful. Same as the felldew theme and the danger of the vampires' den, both creating a thrill for the reader. Not to mention that bath scene was hot as hell (nice hairswitch, good play on the water wetness). And the dressing up/off effects do seem mastered. So some images are a real visual pleasure. Great entry !

 

Malicia : «  She cut her own throat with scissors ! I guess she didn't like Nora's house after all, no. »

Thanks for all the praise Tirloque.

Ideally I had a bit more of the relationship development in the previous entry, but a lots of things wanted to be in the previous entry so I had to limit it to the talk after the grumpy old guy customer.

@Malicia: Or maybe she likes it so much that she wants to stay there forever?

Hm, fun chapter! A bit mixed feelings of how the ending came around, though.
Yvonne... cut her own throat because she wanted Nora to turn her in order to save her life? If so, it would seem a bit risky for her to do so in the next room while Nora might be asleep to notice.
Or did she truly want to end her own life, but has second thoughts as she is fading (thus asking Nora to save her). ?

6 hours ago, Rattlesnark said:

Yvonne... cut her own throat because she wanted Nora to turn her in order to save her life?

Yes, in two ways, she knew her addiction is killing her rather sooner then later and she saw becoming a vampire as the best way to live on.

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If so, it would seem a bit risky for her to do so in the next room while Nora might be asleep to notice.

She touched on the topic of becoming a vampire a bit in the previous entry, when she basically asked Nora whether she'd turn her, and Nora was very evasive (just turn her, without Yvonne forcing her). 

Between the moment of Yvonne leaving the room and her cutting her throat is a minute at best, she even says Nora something like farewell, so that was all she wanted to do. So it's very unlikely that Nora falls asleep during that time, but stuff like this is somewhat hard to communicate without explicitly stating it as a narrator comment. 

Nora having her eyes closed and opening them afterwards just felt like a good dramatic moment too me, I was not trying to show that she was asleep. 

You're right that it would've been probably safer for Yvonne to do this right in front of Nora, where she can't miss it, I didn't really think at that when I was shooting the scene. The off screen suicide just felt natural to me as we just see the scene from Nora's perspective for a bigger narrative surprise. 

I think smelling the fresh blood is something that Nora would have hardly missed (to be fair Yvonne probably doesn't know that), besides Yvonne is just in a neighboring room where she can be heard even without vampire senses. 

So doing it directly in front of Nora might have been better, but I don't think Yvonne was in danger to not be noticed. On the other hand, Nora could have maybe stopped Yvonne from killing herself if she'd seen it directly... you know super vampire reflexes and speed and whatever....

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Or did she truly want to end her own life, but has second thoughts as she is fading (thus asking Nora to save her). ?

Somewhat planned from the time the two fell in love, as she felt she her addiction would kill her soon anyway so she went all in and trusts Nora to turn her (or she rather just forces her to do so), even though Nora doesn't like the idea of turning her (as discussed in the previous entry). 

11 hours ago, Alter Native said:

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Thank you for the explanation, I like what you've said! Shan't be any complaints from me about any of it. ?

This is quickly becoming my favorite chapter! I love the way their relationship grows with each section. It also feels very real. I feel like she truly wants to die, but maybe she just desires to be a vampire? Not sure yet (though I'm leaning on the former); I really want to find out! Great work, as always!

22 hours ago, Collygon said:

This is quickly becoming my favorite chapter! I love the way their relationship grows with each section. It also feels very real. I feel like she truly wants to die, but maybe she just desires to be a vampire? Not sure yet (though I'm leaning on the former); I really want to find out! Great work, as always!

Thank you Collygon! So answered this question a bit more in detail above when I replied to  Rattlesnark, she basically tries to save herself from dieing to her addiction and her way to live on is becoming a vampire. Now she only needs to convince Nora to do it.

Am 25.01.2019 um 21:29 Uhr sagte Alter Native:

Ja, in zweierlei Hinsicht wusste sie, dass ihre Sucht sie eher früher als später umbringt, und sie sah es als die beste Möglichkeit an, ein Vampir zu werden, um weiterzuleben.

 

Sie hat das Thema, ein Vampir zu werden, im vorherigen Eintrag ein wenig berührt, als sie Nora im Grunde fragte, ob sie sie verwandeln würde, und Nora war sehr ausweichend (verwandeln Sie sie einfach, ohne dass Yvonne sie dazu zwingt). 

Zwischen Yvonnes Verlassen des Zimmers und dem Durchschneiden der Kehle vergeht bestenfalls eine Minute, sie sagt Nora sogar so etwas wie Lebewohl, das war also alles, was sie tun wollte. Es ist also sehr unwahrscheinlich, dass Nora während dieser Zeit einschläft, aber so etwas ist etwas schwer zu kommunizieren, ohne es explizit als Erzählerkommentar zu bezeichnen. 

Als Nora ihre Augen geschlossen hatte und sie danach wieder öffnete, fühlte es sich auch für mich wie ein guter dramatischer Moment an, ich versuchte nicht zu zeigen, dass sie schlief. 

Du hast recht, dass es für Yvonne wahrscheinlich sicherer gewesen wäre, dies direkt vor Nora zu tun, wo sie es nicht übersehen kann, daran habe ich nicht wirklich gedacht, als ich die Szene drehte. Der Off-Screen-Selbstmord fühlte sich für mich einfach natürlich an, da wir die Szene für eine größere erzählerische Überraschung nur aus Noras Perspektive sehen. 

 

Ich denke, das frische Blut zu riechen, hätte Nora kaum entgehen können (um ehrlich zu sein, Yvonne weiß das wahrscheinlich nicht), außerdem ist Yvonne gerade in einem Nebenzimmer, wo man sie auch ohne Vampirsinne hören kann. 

 

Es wäre vielleicht besser gewesen, es direkt vor Nora zu machen, aber ich glaube nicht, dass Yvonne Gefahr lief, unbemerkt zu bleiben. Andererseits hätte Nora Yvonne vielleicht davon abhalten können, sich umzubringen, wenn sie es direkt gesehen hätte... du weißt schon, super Vampirreflexe und Geschwindigkeit und was auch immer...

 

Etwas geplant von der Zeit an, als sich die beiden verliebten, da sie das Gefühl hatte, dass ihre Sucht sie sowieso bald umbringen würde, also ging sie aufs Ganze und vertraute darauf, dass Nora sie umdreht (oder sie zwingt sie eher dazu), obwohl Nora es nicht tut Ich mag die Idee, sie umzudrehen (wie im vorherigen Eintrag besprochen). 

 

That would be an explanation of this scene.

I figured out another one:

With Nora she has almost reached an absolute peak in terms of love and fulfillment - something that (from her point of view) cannot be increased any more.

So it can't get any better - it can only get worse and that means like brothel hell for her.

Yvonne strikes me as a classic borderliner - something I have very close and intensive contact with in real life. (and I have experienced such scenes myself)

Her suicide (attempt) is the classic part of "self-harming" behavior (which includes drug addiction) - and is to be understood as a cry for help (to Nora).

Sure - the only help Nora can offer is to turn her into an undead.

This is the only way that all the causes of her borderline syndrome will not disappear.

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Apart from that - without the great staging, the chapter would not have been bearable because of the flashback that started for me.

thanks