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Chapter 7 Section 10 - The Duchess II


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Short Summary of the previous entries

 


In the last entry Nora was visited by Duchess Maerwynn, the ruler of Hammerfell and a powerful vampire figures of the realm.

 

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She pretended to be on the way to Castle Volkihar and only stop at Nora's castle to seek shelter from the sun during her nightly travels, but it turned out, that she was actually visiting Nora to get her emotions and mostly her libido back. 

 

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Nora suspected that the Duchess' refusal to drink mortal blood was causing the lack of emotions. Instead the Duchess lived of vampire blood only, which kept her alive but seemed to have some unwanted side effects.

 

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Nora tricked her into drinking mortal blood again, by mixing it with her own vampire blood which caused the Duchess to collapse and become unconcious.

 

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As she didn't know how Diana would reacted when she eventually woke up again and she wanted to hide the Duchess situation from the Duchess' guard she hide her in a secret locked room in the library.

 

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No she is about to confront Diana.

 
 

 


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Chapter 7 Section 10 - The Duchess II

 

 


I recommend reading the section summary (or the previous entry directly ) if you haven't already, as this entry connects stronger then typical to the previous entry.


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Thanks for reading,

I hope you enjoyed this entry. This marks the entry of the short story with Diana and the end of chapter 7, more on that below.
Some of you may know Diana from Marmotte's blog Skyrim Scandal.
I remember discovering this blog while I started working on this entry almost two years ago and I took some inspirations from their blog.

 

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As you may have recognized, I used a red retextured version of this outfit in this very entry, but Marmotte's version of Diana looks so much cooler. Since then I have redone Section 9 & 10 with a slightly changed story and redone screenshots. All the daylight shots of the previous entry were done recently as well as everything after the eating scene in the dungeon. (I think there is a noticeable jump in the screenshot quality in the redone parts.) 

Anyway, we haven't seen the last of Diana on this blog, as she is both ruler of Hammerfell and a very important figure in the politics of the vampire realm Nora is living in and we'll see more of her in the future (Chapter 8 and beyond).

 

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If you want more of Diana already I recommend having a look at the latest Diana vampire follower release from earlier this week, that even comes with a custom quest and dungeon:

 

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Chapter 7 - Conclusions and lessons learned

 

So overhaul I'm happy with the way Chapter 7 played out.

It's biggest problem is that there is no real central conflict or central theme and the story is pretty low stakes for the most part. 
Besides the Diana story in the end it mostly focused on Nora and Thomas that started out having a small adventure together in the beginning and afterwards grew together as a couple. That alone is all right, but there could have been so much more going on, like them growing together over a central conflict.

All of that will come eventually (Chapter 8 and beyond), but for some time I was following the idea of having a couple of 'mini stories' chained together. Feral hunting, the stormcloaks and the villagers, Diana's story and some more.
All of them are ok but they don't really form a cohesive story together. They are just the sum of it's parts but not more.
Chapter 8 and the following chapters go in a different direction and we'll see much more of an ongoing story. 

 

In the next entry I plan to release the castle mod that I was building and using ever since Chapter 5. I got almost as many requests for that castle as for Nora's preset and I'm willing to give you the castle, so stay tuned.

 

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This was quite an interesting session, as well rather erotic. 

 

It seems we gonna learn about Nora's bloodline as wellt he mysterious father, and I can see you already give some intel about Diana's titles and role too in the last parts.

 

Was rather interesting to see how youthful she become after drinking blood, her eyes got stornger, her hair is black now, and she is like closer to tex's Mileena a bit. ?

 

Erotic scenes were rather artistic and enjoyable, especially with the roses and in that dark cellar.

 

Ohh yes, the ripped of arm from the elf girl was brutal.

 

Now about the entire 7 chapter, it was overall nice.

 

I think your session with the war themes and conflicts about duty and decadence was easily the strongest of this entire chapter, as well some aspect of the past of Nora's, those always welcomed.

 

However, I do agree with your verdict, the lack of central conflict or major theme was a bit hurting in my opinion.

 

I hope chapter 8 holds something in that regard.

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4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Was rather interesting to see how youthful she become after drinking blood, her eyes got stornger, her hair is black now, and she is like closer to tex's Mileena a bit. ?

Besides the hair she's very different from Mileena I think, but I'm surprised you noticed the eye color :open_mouth:. It's a very small change, but I did change it.

 

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Ohh yes, the ripped of arm from the elf girl was brutal.

I got to do some foreshadowing and show the danger.

4 hours ago, Resdayn said:

I think your session with the war themes and conflicts about duty and decadence was easily the strongest of this entire chapter, as well some aspect of the past of Nora's, those always welcomed.

I hope chapter 8 holds something in that regard.

There'll be more flashback scenes in Chapter 8 in two different non Skyrim provinces so we'll see. ;)

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

Besides the hair she's very different from Mileena I think, but I'm surprised you noticed the eye color :open_mouth:. It's a very small change, but I did change it.

 

She just bit remind me her.

 

Considering I hint and change eyes a lot in my story, its something I always notice.

 

People probably not noticed Gwynolda's eye changes, but I did actually in the story.

 

See here.

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Even if the color remained red, there was a change there, minor or subtle one can notice it.

 

9 minutes ago, Alter Native said:

 

There'll be more flashback scenes in Chapter 8 in two different non Skyrim provinces so we'll see. ;)

 

Thats great to hear.

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Yes! The camping out in your blog section worked! ?

 

So many excellent bits of information here. The obvious one is of course, Nora's Maker. From the way Diana spoke, it's actually not clear: do they invite pure bloods into the court or do they try to kill them off to avoid competition? ?

 

The necklace that Diana wears seems to be a memento from a tragedy. My first guess was that the Duchess has the blood of her slain family in it, especially considering Nora's remark about hearing their screams.

 

The Baroness knows Damon - that's curious. The Baroness is also being warned about Thomas - that's even more curious. ? (The fact that Lenora might be scheming in order to gain a more favorable position is to be expected, of course).

 

From her dialogue with Stan for a moment there I thought that Nora suddenly had a change of heart and decided to be faithful to one partner. And then I read about fireplace needing cleaning. And then things went back to normal. ?

 

In terms of writing - personally I have no issues with a chapter being a collection of smaller stories. Your characters are vampires. They have all the time in the world (if they play their cards right) so it makes sense for them to have some decades being less eventful than others.

 

In the visual aspect the entry is perfect. It's horrifying, bloody and beautiful - all in one. I even got scared that Nora might really get in trouble down there in the basement.

 

You have all of my compliments and my sincere thanks for sharing your work with us.

Now, if you don't mind, I'll go back to camping out your blog section awaiting the next episode. ?

 

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This was a lot of fun to read.  I keep forgetting to read the whole thing from the beginning, but it doesn't change the fact that this is an amazing story. lol :P
I'm looking forward to the release of the house as well. :)
Question, will it be something like a Mediafire/Mega/Google Drive download or will it end up on the Nexus? (The way you worded it makes me suspect its the former, but I just wanted to be sure.
Also, are there plans for a SE version? People of both Skyrim's should get to enjoy such a wonderful home. (Not to mention it seems like there's a noticeable lack of vampire themed homes in SE. Well there are some, but other then Raven Castle, there really isn't much of anything like Ravenholm or what you've made.)

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So many excellent bits of information here. The obvious one is of course, Nora's Maker. From the way Diana spoke, it's actually not clear: do they invite pure bloods into the court or do they try to kill them off to avoid competition? ?

I don't know... ok I do, but I don't know how precise I want to be.

Let's just say pure blood vampires are very rare in hold the most powerful positions in society and are basically the "fathers" and "mothers" of many of the bloodlines of my world. But a lot of bloodlines are without their initial "founder"... so things happened...

 

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The necklace that Diana wears seems to be a memento from a tragedy. My first guess was that the Duchess has the blood of her slain family in it, especially considering Nora's remark about hearing their screams.

That's a secret between them that you'll be able to understand in about a year ;). These characters do have a common past and I referenced it multiple times knowing that the audience doesn't really understand it, but in a year from now you'll see some of these lines with different eyes. There is a lot of foreshadowing in this entry.

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The Baroness knows Damon - that's curious. The Baroness is also being warned about Thomas - that's even more curious. ? (The fact that Lenora might be scheming in order to gain a more favorable position is to be expected, of course).

Same as above ;). Also there are not that many vampires and when you're around for several hundred years you are friends with many people eventually.

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From her dialogue with Stan for a moment there I thought that Nora suddenly had a change of heart and decided to be faithful to one partner. And then I read about fireplace needing cleaning. And then things went back to normal. ?

Or maybe... some partners are just simply more desirable then others, especially those having fangs. ;) 

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In the visual aspect the entry is perfect. It's horrifying, bloody and beautiful - all in one. I even got scared that Nora might really get in trouble down there in the basement.

Thank you very much, and thanks for your comment. 

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Now, if you don't mind, I'll go back to camping out your blog section awaiting the next episode. ?

 

Here take some food :bread: :apple::cookie:, I don't want you starving outside my blog section.

 

6 hours ago, Spasticon1 said:

This was a lot of fun to read.  I keep forgetting to read the whole thing from the beginning, but it doesn't change the fact that this is an amazing story. lol :P

Yeah, it has become quite large and I'm aware that most people haven't read everything. That's why I try to keep the entry point as easy as possible with the short summaries. Technically you should be able to read the chapter summaries on my blog page and go from there.  

6 hours ago, Spasticon1 said:

Question, will it be something like a Mediafire/Mega/Google Drive download or will it end up on the Nexus? (The way you worded it makes me suspect its the former, but I just wanted to be sure.

There will probably be both, but for now there'll be a Google Drive version. I want to bring it on the nexus eventually with a version that focuses more on gameplay, but that may take a bit longer.

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Also, are there plans for a SE version? People of both Skyrim's should get to enjoy such a wonderful home. (Not to mention it seems like there's a noticeable lack of vampire themed homes in SE. Well there are some, but other then Raven Castle, there really isn't much of anything like Ravenholm or what you've made.)

Larger mods typically get ported eventually, but I'm not sure I do the port myself. I'm personally on LE.

 

4 hours ago, Jayomms said:

Sweet Chapter Nice I like your version of Diana more than the scandal version :wink::thumbsup:

Thanks!

But "my Diana" is an older scandal version. I just changed the hair and eyes a bit. I think they changed the face shape a bit for the latest vampire release.

 

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At one moment I just start really seriously thinking about the Nora bloodline, consider all the custome lore of a vampires that you create and all this Karlov-family stuff but then this niple bite scene happens and I forget what I was thinking... 
Great ambient shots and great sex-scene as always ^_^ 

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i completely understand you wanting to hold onto Nora's preset Alter, probably part of the reason i haven't uploaded a preset of Kathryne yet! :D

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Nice entry indeed ! I specially loved the first two thirds, as you build-up quite well a threatening atmosphere around the duchess (the eaten arm being a gruesome but delectable scene XD), having lost control to her primal vampire lord nature, but also in between Nora and the guard. It build a hierarchy in power, a difference in strength that I found most enjoyable. The progressive and fleeting effects around Diana's bestial form were also great. However, while the duchess stance and threatening attitude felt perfect at the start, she suddenly has a 180° degrees change to fully nice/compliant/amicable in the last one, which seeing how dominant she used to be previously seems, well, not as well written as what everything you previously did regarding her. Still, the stakes on that entry were unusually high, with Nora being endangered to this point by and older vampire being something new to us. As with always the same care for visual aesthetics.  And while indeed not featuring a common-thread scenario wise, the stories in themselves were less static and more varied/entertaining than before.

 

So compliments for the whole chapter ! :smiley::thumbsup:

15 hours ago, Alter Native said:

I got to do some foreshadowing and show the danger.

Malicia : « Then, maybe you could just put a sign over the door, and stop eating people like tin cans ? It was very cruel, and very meany, yes ! :classic_angry: »

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2 hours ago, Crw said:

At one moment I just start really seriously thinking about the Nora bloodline, consider all the custome lore of a vampires that you create and all this Karlov-family stuff but then this niple bite scene happens and I forget what I was thinking... 
Great ambient shots and great sex-scene as always ^_^ 

:wacko:

Thanks! Technically we don't know if Nora is a Karlov, she just adopted that name. 

 

1 hour ago, xGHoSTx said:

i completely understand you wanting to hold onto Nora's preset Alter, probably part of the reason i haven't uploaded a preset of Kathryne yet! :D

You never no and don't want to know what people do with you characters in these parts of the internet... 

37 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Nice entry indeed ! I specially loved the first two thirds, as you build-up quite well a threatening atmosphere around the duchess (the eaten arm being a gruesome but delectable scene XD), having lost control to her primal vampire lord nature, but also in between Nora and the guard. It build a hierarchy in power, a difference in strength that I found most enjoyable. The progressive and fleeting effects around Diana's bestial form were also great.

Thank you Tirloque!

37 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

However, while the duchess stance and threatening attitude felt perfect at the start, she suddenly has a 180° degrees change to fully nice/compliant/amicable in the last one, which seeing how dominant she used to be previously seems, well, not as well written as what everything you previously did regarding her.

Yeah, I think you're right here...

The problem is that she was never supposed to be a total bitch or brutal or anything... 

It's more that in the beginning (previous entry) she was supposed to be rational, efficient and kind of brutal using her superior power to get what she wants due to her lack of emotions due to the vampire blood. 

In the dungeon scene she was supposed to be giving in to her vampire blood frenzyness and be a danger for irrational reasons, emotional and uncontrolled (too much mortal blood).

In the last part she was supposed to be closer to her true nature a mixture of both (like all of us are, a mixture of emotions and rational thought which is arguably the least threatening version of all of us).

I do agree and I do see that the transition was poorly done. I'm not really sure how it could have been done better. Technically Nora should have waited with Diana in that cell for like a whole day until she was "sober" and the sex scene could have, and probably should have played out in the dungeon. 

However I wanted to have a scene that's nice to look at from an erotic perspective, which I think I did, and that's much better and easier in Nora's bedroom. So it's kind of hard to pull of without putting a

... one day later ... 

sign there. Which is arguable bad storytelling.

Giving these restraints the transition was kind of bad, but I'm not really sure how the storyline could have played out better giving the aim.

The aim was the problem obviously. It's a classic case of forcing the story in a certain direction even though the story wouldn't naturally flow in that direction.

 

37 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Still, the stakes on that entry were unusually high, with Nora being endangered to this point by and older vampire being something new to us. As with always the same care for visual aesthetics.  And while indeed not featuring a common-thread scenario wise, the stories in themselves were less static and more varied/entertaining than before.

Thank you :)

37 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

So compliments for the whole chapter ! :smiley::thumbsup:

Malicia : « Then, maybe you could just put a sign over the door, and stop eating people like tin cans ? It was very cruel, and very meany, yes ! :classic_angry: »

And you would have felt equally threatened by a door sign that says "do not enter, meany person inside" instead of a chopped of arm?

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5 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Thank you Tirloque!

Yeah, I think you're right here...

The problem is that she was never supposed to be a total bitch or brutal or anything... 

It's more that in the beginning (previous entry) she was supposed to be rational, efficient and kind of brutal using her superior power to get what she wants due to her lack of emotions due to the vampire blood. 

In the dungeon scene she was supposed to be giving in to her vampire blood frenzyness and be a danger for irrational reasons, emotional and uncontrolled (too much mortal blood).

In the last part she was supposed to be closer to her true nature a mixture of both (like all of us are, a mixture of emotions and rational thought which is arguably the least threatening version of all of us).

I do agree and I do see that the transition was poorly done. I'm not really sure how it could have been done better. Technically Nora should have waited with Diana in that cell for like a whole day until she was "sober" and the sex scene could have, and probably should have played out in the dungeon. 

However I wanted to have a scene that's nice to look at from an erotic perspective, which I think I did, and that's much better and easier in Nora's bedroom. So it's kind of hard to pull of without putting a

... one day later ... 

sign there. Which is arguable bad storytelling.

Giving these restraints the transition was kind of bad, but I'm not really sure how the storyline could have played out better giving the aim.

I'm not as disturbed by the fact she looks to have sobered all of a sudden (which could be explained by the lusting effect of blood taking over), but rather by the impression we go from a dominating, frightening, authoritative 2600 years old bloodline founder to a super nice freckled young women. I understand however you wanted to show the contrast with her emotionless behavior... But I would've brought back that attitude (although lessened by her effectively leaving, and possibly issuing one warning to Nora) immediately after the sex scene, and possibly during it. 

 

Excellently shot scene that being said, extremely sensual. I can fully understand Crw being distracted there. ^^

5 hours ago, Alter Native said:

And you would have felt equally threatened by a door sign that says "do not enter, meany person inside" instead of a chopped of arm?

Malicia : « You're very missing the point, Mr Native :

               

             Door signs are made to avoid people dying. If we needed one dead person instead of every sign, there would already be many dead, and it would be a big failure, you see ? :classic_lightbulb: »

 

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16 hours ago, Alter Native said:

Thanks!

But "my Diana" is an older scandal version. I just changed the hair and eyes a bit. I think they changed the face shape a bit for the latest vampire release.

You still made your changes and I like it. :wink::thumbsup: I'm sure they improved the head nif through the sculpt edit most likely ECE because it's better than the racemenu one I saw you can integrate ECE sculpt with racemenu but I haven't tried it. ?

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13 hours ago, Tirloque said:

I'm not as disturbed by the fact she looks to have sobered all of a sudden (which could be explained by the lusting effect of blood taking over), but rather by the impression we go from a dominating, frightening, authoritative 2600 years old bloodline founder to a super nice freckled young women. I understand however you wanted to show the contrast with her emotionless behavior... But I would've brought back that attitude (although lessened by her effectively leaving, and possibly issuing one warning to Nora) immediately after the sex scene, and possibly during it. 

Yeah, I think you have a point here, but then a bit of thankfulness and friendliness are not out of character for her, but it might have been too much...

It's very hard to anticipate the audiences perception of a character and when too much is too.

13 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Malicia : « You're very missing the point, Mr Native :

             If we needed one dead person instead of every sign, there would already be many dead, and it would be a big failure, you see ? :classic_lightbulb: »

Wel... this is basically how travel and infrastructure politics in Germany works. If there's a dead person we put up a sign with a speed limit... nobody could have anticipated that this part of the road is dangerous. :classic_lightbulb:

8 hours ago, Jayomms said:

You still made your changes and I like it. :wink::thumbsup: I'm sure they improved the head nif through the sculpt edit most likely ECE because it's better than the racemenu one I saw you can integrate ECE sculpt with racemenu but I haven't tried it. ?

I assume Marmotte used racemenu as most people, but in the end if you have patience you can create amazing faces with both tools. :)

 

 

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Super badass entry! Those screenshots were stellar with the magical effects and the fog. I could really feel the tension as Nora was stepping through that dark room. And the prisoner who got devoured! Damn! ?<- my actual face upon seeing that arm. Amazing work!

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Yay another epic read, nice work with Diana I thought she looked familar but damm, yes I have plans for that Vampire too

 

Mileena: My my, Nora, whose your sexy friend?

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