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Conglomerate 02 - ​Core Mods


donttouchmethere

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Conglomerate 02 - Core Mods

 

✍️ This page is intended as an overview how to create a basic Setup before adding more Mods to a Load Order.

I call the listed Mod combinations "Core Mods", because they are the base - or minimal requirement - for most lewd Setups.

I just copied step by step what Mods I usually install first - followed by a functionality check ingame - before even thinking about adding anything else from LL or Nexus.

The blog was created with NMM mechanics in mind, but the overwrites (NMM, brutally overwrite files in skyrim/data) aka overrules (MO - left plane, Vortex) are the same for any mod manager.

 

? The sequence the Mods are listed also give a clue about overwrites and also the position of related plugins in LO. If no additional information is given overwrite the early listed mods with the ones lower on this page.

 

? Goal of this Blog page:

  • Installation of all most basic LL Frameworks and requirements.
  • Repeatable steps that will work for any basic LO to prevent user error early on.
  • Ⓜ️ "Modules" (choose only one of each Module variety). Modules are Mod combinations that could or will conflict if installed together.
  • Indirectly create a checklist and source for the most basic Mods that go with everything or are requirements for related plugins.


? Definition of the abbreviations can be found here: Conglomerate - Abbreviations and File Types

 

 

? Index:

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core

  • Core Frameworks and their Patches and Fixes
    • SOS, SL, SLAL
  • Optional
  • Additional fixes

 

Step 02 - ? Body

  • Ⓜ️ Module - All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
  • Ⓜ️ Module - Body installation via separate Mods

 

Step 03 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

  • MNC SLAL and Animated Beast's Cocks
  • Optional - Skyrim Immersive Creature & Bad Dog's MNC SLAL Integration

 

Step 04 - ? BDSM Frameworks

  • Zaz Animation Pack
  • Toys
  • Devious Devices
    • Ⓜ️ Module - DD 4.3a
    • Ⓜ️ ?:bug: - DD v5

 

Step 05 - ? Script Extender

  • PapyrusUtil
  • ConsoleUtil
  • Jcontainers

 

 

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core

⚙️ Core Frameworks and their Patches and Fixes:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

⚙️ Optional:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

  • XP32 New Animation Package - Nexus Exclusive

    • XP32 New Animation pack includes multiple vanilla animation replacers and is a great alternative to FNIS sexy move.

      • no esp, just animations

      • Install after FNIS and let it overwrite FNIS files

      • Don't install the Skeleton, XPMSE takes over that part

      • It will produce one FNIS warning during generation that can be ignored (momo jump)

  • Activate Button Away
    • moves the activate text away from the center of the screen
    • no more annoying activate texts during the SL scenes while switching to free-camera
    • Highly Recommended
  • Better Dialogue Controls
    • Highly recommended
    • helps with bloated dialog boxes after adding multiple NPC interaction mods
    • Highly recommended for SLdialogues
  • Better Message Box Controls
    • makes life better if in fight with lots of pop up message boxes
    • control message boxes via keyboard
  • Immersive HUD - iHUD
    • Highly recommended
    • deactivate all those HUD elements if not needed
    • or just make them very opaque
    • also great to get rid of the sneaking cross-hair in the middle of the screen
  • Race Menu - Overlays Plugin
    • more make-up options in race menu
  • Remove Recurring Messages
    • removes the annoying reminder messages
    • Highly Recommended
  • Rock Trap De-Lameifier
    • Highly Recommended
    • safer travels for your followers and slaves thru triggered rock traps
    • check out the other MonoMan1 tweaks!
  • Auto Unequip Ammo
    • Works on PC and Followers
    • no more constant Ammo container on your back
    • Alternative: Ammo Unequip on Sexlab Animations 1.02
      • don't use Bazinga's Version and the Nexus Version at the same time
      • will also remove ammo from any Actor that removes ranged weapons
      • Drawback: no MCM to add custom weapons and ammo
      • Option to add custom ammo via TES5edit: Also sprach Bazinga

 

⚙️ Additional fixes:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

  • Optional: SexLab 1.62 Fixes
    • Sexlab 1.62 sslActorAlias FIX v2
      • ⚠️don't use this fix together with SexLab Utility Plus⚠️
        • fix for Sexlab 1.62 thread setup bug in sslActorAlias script (werewolf)
    • FNIS_&_SL_Spider_Behavior_Patch
      • ⚠️only use if creature/spider animations get stuck⚠️
      • Application according to Dr MMG's recipe:
        • Contagious bug that effects other behavior files, if one file gets it then all of your spider behavior files will get it.

          You need to download the newest version of FNIS available and delete all spider behavior hkx files, then remake them with generatefnisformodders.exe. ( and any animators that don't do this will re-bug your spider animations on you. )

 

 

Step 02 - ? Body

? Ⓜ️ All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

  • Body Slide and Outfit Studio
    • An easy to use tool for customizing bodies and outfits, creating new bodies and outfits, and converting outfits between body types.
    • Add presets and meshes for bodies like UUNP (Special)
    • doesn't add skin texture, but need one for previews
  • All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
    •  ⚠️DO NOT INSTALL ANY CREATURE RELATED OPTIONS OF AIO-P IF YOU PLAN TO USE MNC SLAL ⚠️
    • All mods installed mods so far can be overwritten by AIO-P
    • Main reason for using AIO-P is to create a Sexlab compatible body without knowing all the necessary details or to search for needed mods.
    • includes:
      • 10 pre-build Unified UNP Special bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • 10 pre-build CBBE bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • ? includes HDT Physics Extension
      • Skin textures for Humans, Khajiit, Argonians
      • Followers
      • various additional tools, meshes, textures
      • ...
    • Sneak Preview pictures of the AIO-P FOMOD for more details: AIO-P FOMOD

 

 

 

  • Optional:
    • AIO-P files can be overwritten with:

 

? Ⓜ️ Body installation via separate Mods:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

 

Step 03 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

? MNC SLAL and Animated Beast's Cocks:

Spoiler

 Mods to install:

 

 

  • Animated Beast's Cocks (ABC) For users LE

    • Optional:  Chymondo's Sabrecat, select during ABC installation
      • ?‍♂️ lets hope it's included in ABC
    • Allow to overwrite:

      • EVERYTHING!

      • MNC SLAL

      • AIO-HDT-AP

      • End All Be All - Rieklings

      • True Wolves of Skyrim

      • SC Horse Replacer

      • XPMSE

 

 

? Optional - Skyrim Immersive Creature & Bad Dog's MNC SLAL Integration:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

 

Step 04 - ? BDSM Frameworks

? Zaz Animation Pack v8.0 plus:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

  • Zaz Animation Pack V8.0 plus
    • UUNP HDT file for this example
    • ⚠️LL download is only a txt file. In the txt file you find the link to the real mod.
    • some devices need to be build in bodyslide (more sliders in the Bodyslide "unassigned" group)
    • ⚠️If NPC don't use whips activate the "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch in FNIS
    • alternative versions: ZAP 7 and ZAP 8, only use one!
    • Optional: Immersive Torture Sounds 0.1
      • ZAP Whipsound replacer
      • Whenever a whip hit noise plays, it should be accompanied by a female grunt/scream.
      • Male characters should rethink installing this
      • Alternative: ZAP- Whipping Sound Expanded
        • ZAP Whipsound replacer
        • even better than Immersive Torture Sounds
        • only use one whipsound replacer

 

 

? Toys:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

?Ⓜ️ DD v4.3a:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

 

? Ⓜ️?:bug: DD v5:

Spoiler

?

DD v5+ still is under construction.

So far I don't see it as framework anymore, but as a Mod with compatibility issues.

As soon as useful fixes/patches are out I will post them here.

 

 

Step 05 - ? Script Extender

? PapyrusUtil, ConsoleUtil, Jcontainers:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

  • PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • some mods come with older versions, don't let them overwrite the newer version!
      • SLF
      • Simply Knock
      • Campfire
  • JContainers
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Requirement for MNC SLAL and Creature Framework
  • ConsoleUtil
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Needed for:
      • Inte's SUM (Skyrim Utility Mod)
      • DDi black fog blindfold effect (activatable in DDi MCM)
      • NFF (Nether's Follower Framework)

 

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That's a good one. Completeness and step by step. :classic_happy:

Though going with NMM about it .... while it will surely work, it has a touch of masochism :classic_wink:

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3 hours ago, worik said:

Though going with NMM about it .... while it will surely work, it has a touch of masochism

You might be just a bit NMM rusty :classic_sleep:

Overwrite, OVERWRITE THEM ALL muwhahahah ?

 

That was the easy part ?

Wait for the bashed patch and load order ?

 

I hope the NMM ppl know the difference between yes to overwrite mod and no to overwrite mod ?

 

Also isn't the whole Skyrim modding thing pure masochism before you can even be a Masochist IN Skyrim? ?

 

but now that you say it... i forgot

skyrim noble bed SL fix or

skyrim noble bed SL fix for spooning

and

pls, wear a helmet in here, parts of mods everywhere >.<

 

also duckduckgo throws out odd searching results, I think they don't know me as well as google :classic_ph34r:

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Updates:

  • Added Noble Bed collison fix for SL from LL
  • Added Noble Bed collison fix alternative by Double beds for spooning from Nexus (adds spooning animation and fixes the noble bed)
  • Added Sexlab fixes by Ed86
  • Added MMG's comments to Sexlab fixes in combination with MNC SLAL
  • Added warning for possible incompatibility between gag sliders for racemenu and Devious Training 3
  • Hint about AIO-AP custom race support

 

Scheduled:

  • SLF sound replacer
  • ZAZ sound replacer
  • colors or emojis to mark the basic mods, seems I'm a nitpicker if it comes to mods and now it gets crowded. Still, this are my basic mods on all my setups ?
  • MNC SLAL and SIC + SIC Patches [Immersive Wenches addons and SIC]
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So I'm going through your guide due to not modding Skyrim in a very long time, and let me tell you, It took about 2 hours to find this. I don't even remember how I found it.

but i would've spent even longer than that searching for a guide that was half this good.

 

donttouchmethere, you were sent from the Gods and we don't deserve you.

You must be protected at all costs. ?

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On 1/3/2020 at 8:43 AM, crystalpony said:

So I'm going through your guide due to not modding Skyrim in a very long time, and let me tell you, It took about 2 hours to find this. I don't even remember how I found it.

but i would've spent even longer than that searching for a guide that was half this good.

 

donttouchmethere, you were sent from the Gods and we don't deserve you.

You must be protected at all costs. ?

Thank you for the nice words! ?

I know how you feel.

Researching mod updates and find the right patches takes a while. ?

Even worse if you search for an old mod you forgot the name of but is a must have for your setup. ?

 

Also: HOW DID YOU FIND THE BLOG? ?

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Update 21.02.2020

 

  • added
Spoiler

 

 

  • Finished MNC SLAL installation and added Skyrim Immersive Creatures installation
  • added @MadMansGun's patch to the SIC installation
Spoiler

 

 

  • Tested DT3 with RM adjustable ball gag size and declare them now as compatible.
  • Newest RM adjustable ball gag size needs to be low in LO (older version's DCL patch just got merged in bashed patch)
Spoiler

 

 

  • added a warning about DT being resource hungry
Spoiler

 

 

  • added tags to the blog page *tagtagtagtag...*
  • added warnings about NiOverride High Heel fixes and their effect on SL animations and crawling animations

 

Still to add:

  • Devious Lore patches
  • testing now SexLab Utility Plus v20200219.7z
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16 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You don't fool me. All this is just part of your evil plan to take over the world using acronyms. ?

I wish!

They start to take ME over!

 

Spoiler

 

 

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ohoh!

FNIS got updated.

I have overwritten FNIS so many times by now, I wouldn't even know where to start to strip down my mods to find the right install order again.

Especially related to MNC ?

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2 hours ago, Tyrygosa said:

Creature Framework is included in MNC SLAL edition, so no reason to install it separately

Hey, thanks for pointing that out!

Will change that entry right away.

 

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29 minutes ago, ovidius171 said:

hi @donttouchmethere

thanks for your blog, that's help

have you seen thisone?

https://www.sinitargaming.com/skyrim_graphics.html

The page is actually pretty cool (might be even awesome). ?

Also if I compare it to what I use I see that I'm on the right track.

Need to dig in and check what I missed all my Skyrim life ?

 

If I were new to Skyrim that list would blast me right off my seat ?

I guess now I can dare to peak ?

 

Also it might help my sanity to see some list that isn't about multiple LL mods for a change?

Thanks!

 

uiuiui lots too read and even more to try ?

 

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im glad you like'it

i just fucked up my game with the new XPMSE, MNC and FNIS.... soooo i have to work also

just now when i discover few really nice mods who's wait just for me to try them

cya

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Update:

  • added LL modder names ("@"links gave up half way ?‍♂️)
  • update for @skyrimfet's DT3 related information for v3.1 ?, the new polling system is way more stable now (thx to @GenioMaestro support)
  • removed DT v3.0 patches
  • added @LazyBoot's hobble-skirt patch ?
  • update for @MadMansGun + @Ed86's MNC / FNIS spider fix, not needed atm with FNIS creatures v7.6, at least that's what I understand
  • added more SLF furniture patches new on LL
  • removed any trace to SexlabUtility for now, just no time to test it
  • I try to keep up to date and hunt patches:
    • if you find some tell meeee!
    • if you made a patch/fix and it is uploaded here and you don't like it: tell meee!
  • update for Devious Lore by @Code Serpent, I hope I posted the right struggle patch o.o
  • removed spooning for skyrim because it seems to be not THAT compatible with Go to bed (if you had sleeping issues, now you know why^^)
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2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

update for @MadMansGun + @Ed86's MNC / FNIS spider fix, not needed atm with FNIS creatures v7.6, at least that's what I understand

no, you still may want that one*, the behavior file in sexlab v1.62 was made with the old FNIS generator/data.

* if your not using my "ExperimentalSexLabCreaturesV1-62ToSLALConversion.7z"

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36 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

no, you still may want that one*, the behavior file in sexlab v1.62 was made with the old FNIS generator/data.

* if your not using my "ExperimentalSexLabCreaturesV1-62ToSLALConversion.7z"

oh. OH!

 

pls in detail:

Sexlab 1.62 sslActorAliasFIX v2.7z => still needed

21.88 kB

FNIS_&_SL_Spider_Behavior_Patch.7z => still needed, !unless! ExperimentalSLCreatures is installed

15.04 kB

 

Updated SLF fixes

Basically back to what I wrote before ^^

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Could you maybe add a final overwrite/load order at the end of the guide? Especially with MO2 the overwrite order at the very least would be very useful.

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Update:

(I had to ?‍♂️)

 

21 hours ago, GGDX said:

Could you maybe add a final overwrite/load order at the end of the guide? Especially with MO2 the overwrite order at the very least would be very useful.

I'm sorry I still use NMM and my knowledge about MO is very limited.

I can do a LO with the posted mods tho. ?

 

About the overwrites. I think it works a bit like NMM file overwrites.

Means the same rules apply and you need to let mods win conflicts in MO that have a ...

wait!

Overwrites is something like creating a mod in MO right?

See I have no clue ?

 

Basically the blog is organized how I would install the mods from top to bottom.

Means the lower ones have higher priority if it comes to winning conflicts.

For example if I wrote a comment like

⚠️Allow to overwrite:

  • EVERYTHING!

it should win all conflicts during installation against mods listed in this blog or otherwise.

 

Fixes and patches should win conflicts with the mod they overwrite.

 

Same rule applies for

⚠️never let any mod overwrite it

that means the mod should win all conflicts, even if you install other mods not listed here later.

 

Maybe you explain me what exactly "overwrite order" for MO means. Although I guess it's the same as with NMM overwriting files physically.

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