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Conglomerate 02 - Core Mods

 

✍️ Introduction:

This page is intended as an overview how to create a basic Setup before adding more Mods to a Load Order.

I call the listed Mod combinations "Core Mods", because they are the base - or minimal requirement - for most lewd Setups.

I just copied step by step what Mods I usually install first - followed by a functionality check ingame - before even thinking about adding anything else from LL or Nexus.

The blog was created with NMM mechanics in mind, but the overwrites (NMM, brutally overwrite files in skyrim/data) aka overrules (MO - left plane, Vortex) are the same for any mod manager.

 

The sequence the Mods are listed also give a clue about overwrites and also the position of related plugins in LO. If no additional information is given overwrite the early listed mods with the ones lower on this page.

 

? Goal of this Blog page:

  • Installation of basic Skyrim fixes, patches and useful mods in preparation for LL mods
  • Installation of all most basic LL Frameworks and requirements.
  • Repeatable steps that will work for any basic LO to prevent user error early on.
  • Indirectly create a checklist and source for the most basic Mods that go with everything or are requirements for related plugins.
  • ? Creating Checklists to keep the overview
  • ⚠️ It's strongly recommended to still read the individual mod descriptions instead of blindly installing everything


? Definition of the abbreviations can be found here: Conglomerate - Abbreviations and File Types

 

 

Index:

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core Vanilla

  • Vanilla Patches, Basic Requirements, FNIS, Tools
  • ⚙️Optional

 

Step 02 - ❤️? Core Sexlab

  • SOS, SL, SLAL, Tools, Patches

 

Step 03 - ☠️ Body

  •  ⚠️Chose only one route to install a body:
    • All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
    • Body installation via separate Mods
  • ☠️ Optional

 

Step 04 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

  • MNC SLAL
  • Animated Beast's Cocks (ABC HDT)

 

Step 05⛓️ BDSM Frameworks

  • ? ZAP Animation Pack
  • ?? Toys & Love
  • ? Devious Devices 5.2
    • ? Optional

 

Step 06 - ?‍? Script Extender

  • PapyrusUtil
  • ConsoleUtil
  • Jcontainers

 

 

 

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core

⚙️ Core Frameworks and their Patches and Fixes:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch (USLEEP)
  • Recommend Fix: CritterSpawn Congestion Fix
    • Excinerus: "A fix for the bug spawner, clogging your script engine, causing stacks to be dumped and bugs to be spawned. "
    • Just tested and works!
    • SE download is compatible with LE
  • Optional: Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch (USMP)
    • various fixes
    • overwrite USMP with newer mods or mods that modify certain scripts
    • includes among other fixes (v2.0):
      • Fix to Drain Health magic effects for Dwarven Constructs, Undead and Ghosts
      • better vanilla Freckles (also included in AIO-P)
      • Modern Brawl Bug Fix
  • Optional: Unofficial Skyrim City Patch (USCP) Reawakened
    • various fixes, maybe stabilizes FPS in cities
    • check the compatibility section
    • still testing
  • Optional: Skyrim Supplemental Patch
    • tries to fix what USLEEP missed
  • Optional: Quest Conflict Fixes 1.2
    • prevents vanilla Quests to get stuck if certain quest NPC die
    • prevents vanilla Quests from negating each other
  • Modern Brawl Bug Fix
    • only needed if USMP isn't installed
  • Fuz Ro D-oh
    • requirement
    • Support for unvoiced ingame dialogue
  • Optional: Immersive First Person View (IFPV)
    • works well with Sexlab Scenes for all players that dare to take a closer look
    • don't forget to toggle to helmet camera if the view clips too much or if everything is too far away (NUM4 by default)
  • SkyUI
    • requirement
  • UIExtensions
    • needed for AddItemMenu and various LL Mods
  • AddItemMenu
    • very handy tool to see and grab items in esp & esm, without the use of console
    • great to quickly test installed mods and to get items from mods that can't be found or crafted
  • RaceMenu
    • includes NIOverride (NetImmerse Override)
    • includes alternative to ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer
  • FNIS Behavior XXL
    • Optional: Animation Limit Crash Fix (SrtCrashFix)
      • The patch fixes the crash on game loading when you install too many animations with FNIS
      • removes the limit at which FNIS would CTD
      • retesting now
    • Optional: Animation Loading Fix
      • useful to stabilize the process of loading a game with FNIS XXL installed
        • I use it to prevent endless loading screens with FINS XXL
        • works reliable
    • ⚠️ don't use SrtCrashFix and Animation Loading Fix together, use only one. CTD if both are used! ⚠️
  • FNIS Creature Pack
    • Optional for SL creature animations
    • Requirement for MNC
    • ⚠️ FNIS Creature Pack v7.6 will show as "?" in SL, this can be ignored or use this fix: FNIS Creature Pack v7.6(FIX) data.7z
  • An alternative start mod, ⚠️choose only one:

 

⚙️ Optional:

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Mods to install:

 

  • Activate Button Away
    • moves the activate text away from the center of the screen
    • no more annoying activate texts during the SL scenes while switching to free-camera
    • Highly Recommended
  • Better Dialogue Controls
    • Highly recommended
    • helps with bloated dialog boxes after adding multiple NPC interaction mods
    • Highly recommended for SLdialogues
  • Better Message Box Controls
    • makes life better if in fight with lots of pop up message boxes
    • control message boxes via keyboard
  • Immersive HUD - iHUD
    • Highly recommended
    • deactivate all those HUD elements if not needed
    • or just make them very opaque
    • get rid of the sneaking cross-hair in the middle of the screen
    • can also toggle all additionally installed widgets
  • Remove Recurring Messages
    • removes the annoying reminder messages
    • Highly Recommended
  • Rock Trap De-Lameifier
    • Highly Recommended
    • safer travels for your followers and slaves thru triggered rock traps
    • check out the other MonoMan1 tweaks!
  • Auto Unequip Ammo
    • Works on PC and Followers
    • no more constant Ammo container on your back
    • Alternative: Ammo Unequip on Sexlab Animations 1.02
      • ⚠️ don't use Bazinga's Version and the Nexus Version at the same time
      • will also remove ammo from any Actor that removes ranged weapons
      • Drawback: no MCM to add custom weapons and ammo
      • Option to add custom ammo via TES5edit: Also sprach Bazinga

 

 

 

Step 02 - ❤️? Sexlab

❤️? Basic Sexlab Mods:

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Mods to install:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Step 03 - ☠️ Body

☠️ All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0:

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Mods to install:

 

  • Body Slide and Outfit Studio
    • An easy to use tool for customizing bodies and outfits, creating new bodies and outfits, and converting outfits between body types.
    • Add presets and meshes for bodies like UUNP (Special)
    • doesn't add skin texture, but need one for previews
  • All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
    •  ⚠️DO NOT INSTALL ANY CREATURE RELATED OPTIONS OF AIO-P IF YOU PLAN TO USE More Nasty Critters ⚠️
    • All mods installed mods so far can be overwritten by AIO-P
    • Main reason for using AIO-P is to create a Sexlab compatible body without knowing all the necessary details or to search for needed mods.
    • includes:
      • 10 pre-build Unified UNP Special bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • 10 pre-build CBBE bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • ? includes HDT Physics Extension
      • Skin textures for Humans, Khajiit, Argonians
      • Followers
      • various additional tools, meshes, textures
      • ...
    • Sneak Preview pictures of the AIO-P FOMOD for more details: AIO-P FOMOD

 

  • XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE
    • overwrite ALL other mods installed so far
    • ⚠️ only overwrite XPMSE if a mod author asks for it in his mod description.
    • ? includes Realistic Ragdoll and Force
    • FNIS will show for XPMSE v4.60+: Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (126 bones)   male: Unknown (126 bones)
      • unless newer versions are installed of course
      • v4.60 was the last one that worked reliable, but by now there might be fixes out there for the newer XPMSE versions
  • Optional:
    • AIO-P files can be overwritten with:

 

☠️ Body installation via separate Mods:

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Mods to install:

 

 

☠️Optional:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • SexLab Inflation Framework 1.2.2 beta
    • Framework for body-morphs
    • requirement for some mods
    • file needed: SexLab Inflation Framework 1.2.2 beta Installer.7z
    • works as a node to prevent conflicting body morphing if multiple mods try to change body scales
    • SILF patcher:
      • ⚠️ many if not all patches from SexLab Inflation Framework Patch Installer 2018.12.01.7z are outdated by now! ⚠️
      • ⚠️ some of the included patches overwrite mod MCM, which is bad if the patched mod got updated and has a new MCM! ⚠️
      • ? it seems I don't use any patches included in SILF Patch installer anymore and so far that seems okay.

 

 

Step 04 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

? MNC SLAL and Animated Beast's Cocks:

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 Mods to install:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Step 05 - ⛓️ BDSM Frameworks

⛓️? Zaz Animation Pack v8.0 plus:

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Mods to install:

 

  • Zaz Animation Pack V8.0 plus
    • ⚠️LL download is only a txt file. In the txt file you find the link to the real mod.
    • some devices need to be build in bodyslide (more sliders in the Bodyslide "unassigned" group)
    • ⚠️If NPC don't use whips activate the "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch in FNIS
    • ⚠️ Combat mods that overwrite 1h attacks can also break ZAP whipping (the combat mods should still work, just don't overwrite animation files)
    • ⚠️ Combat mods that add PC stagger can break ZAP furniture temporary idles (ingame)
    • ⚠️Don't combine various ZAP versions, only use one

 

 

 

 

 

⛓️?? Toys & Love:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Toys&Love Framework   
    • By now not only a BSDM Framework, but something like a LL all in one Framework
    • everything is well documented and also has extensive troubleshooting solutions
    • In a Virgin's words: Toys&Love is three Frameworks in one... Bondage, Love Scenes, and Rousing.
    • Toys Family of Mods
      • all Toys connected Mods are listed here with links
    • Toys&Love Homepage
      • The whole Hompage is an interesting read

 

 

 

⛓️ ? Devious Devices v5.2:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Devious Devices 5.2
  • ⚠️ Don't combine DD Framework versions
  • ⚠️ DD 5.2 is AIO, means DDa, DDi, DDx are already included and all patches for BRRF and DD for him
  • ⚠️ Don't use the single downloads to install DD4 with the DD5 AIO installation

 

 

 

 

 

 

⛓️? Devious Devices v5.2 Optional:

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Mods I can't count as directly DD Framework effecting/patching/fixing, but that add directly to the Frameworks immersion/functionality without adding any quests/stories or similar:

 

  • NPC Support:
    • Better NPC Support for Devious Devices
    • fixes issues with DDs on NPC and gives them a chance to escape
      • Kharos:
        • Restore missing effects after NPC is reloaded by the game engine (for example after loading screen).
        • Restore missing effects after NPC's inventory has changed (for example after player giving new equipment to follower).
        • Prevent bound NPCs from using weapons and spells in combat; they will use bound combat if enabled in Devious Devices settings.
        • Allow manipulation of some NPC devices (insert/remove panel gag plug, link/unlink DCUR rubber gloves with D-links).
        • Escape system: If enabled in MCM this allows NPCs to struggle and maybe escape their devices.

 

  • Device effects:
    • Devious Training 2 v3.6 (DT2)
      • makes DDs more punishing by adding effects
      • adds DD training
      • helps to control walking speed and inventory weight
      • body morphs from wearing DDs
      • ? highest training effect is applied if wearing devices in combat
      • Consists of following components:
        • Devious Training Core - Devious Training Core 3.5.zip - Main Mod

          Devious Training Textures - Devious Training Textures 3.0 Beta.zip - additional textures, also can be used with Slavetats directly
          Devious Training Martyr - Deviouis Training Martyr 3.6.zip - Extra skills after some painful DD training
          Devious Training Mayhem - Deviouis Training Mayhem 3.6.zip - the body morphing part

    • Devious Body Alteration (DBA)
      • changes your body depending on worn DDs
      • changes body-weight depending on worn DDs
      • changes walking speed depending on worn DDs
      • ? registers any heeled boot for walking speed modification, just in case you wondering why those small heels on your armor cause you to slow down
      • it's scripts routines are faster than the ones of DT2, but it also misses some interesting effects from DT2. It is possible to combine DT2 and DBA, more about that here:
    • DT 2 & DBA Combo
      • To get the body-morph effects from DBA and the punishing/training effects from DT2 both mods can be combined. To do that install the following parts of those mods:
        • Devious Training Core - Devious Training Core 3.5.zip
        • Devious Training Textures - Devious Training Textures 3.0 Beta.zip
        • Devious Training Martyr - Deviouis Training Martyr 3.6.zip
        • Devious Body Alteration - Devious Body Alteration v1.5.zip
    • SexLab Disparity 14.4

      • One mod to add/modify all/any DD effect and body morph

      • Pro: absolute freedom to modify your DD experience

      • Contra: you might get lost in MCM settings for hours or days

 

  • More Devices:
    • LRG_Gasmask_1.0
    • PetCollar
      • unique collar with special effects
      • PetCollar effect can also be added without it's collar
    • Kziitd's XXX Toolset
      • aka: how to make installing devices complicated
      • ⚠️ might conflict with face expression from other mods
      • mod consists of
        • 1679344988_1.KziitdXXXToolset_DD5Main.7z
        • KziitdXXXToolset DD5 script Update.7z
        • 434524576_2.KziitdXXXToolsetDD5BS1.7z
        • 1309138999_3.KziitdXXXToolsetDD5BS2.7z
        • 4. KziitdXXXToolset DD5 Eng esp.7z
          • ⚠️ In case the gagged face expression isn't working install:
            • 5. KziitdXXXToolset Facial Animation.7z
    • Kziitd Feitsh Set - Bdsm Maid
      • Requires Kziitd's XXX Toolset to be installed
      • mod consists of:
        • 2080303704_1.KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaidDD5Main.7z
        • 2. KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid DD5 En Esp.7z
        • KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid DD5 Update Script.7z

 

 

 

 

Step 06 - ?‍? Script Extender

?‍? PapyrusUtil, ConsoleUtil, JContainers:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
      • some mods come with older versions, don't let them overwrite the newer version!
        • Sexlab Framework
        • Simply Knock
        • Campfire
  • JContainers
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Requirement for MNC SLAL and Creature Framework
    • ? in case JContainers gets removed from Nexus again, here the alternative: SilverIce's JContainers at GitHub ?? 
      • GitHub: press on Code > Download zip
  • ConsoleUtil
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Needed for:
      • Inte's SUM (Skyrim Utility Mod)
      • DDi black fog blindfold effect (option in DDi MCM)
      • NFF (Nether's Follower Framework)

 

 

 

Edited by donttouchmethere

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41 minutes ago, worik said:

paragraphs or headings inside a post s not possible to my knowledge.

Ah! That was what I meant.

Okay! That saves me from being sidetracked from being sidetracked from being sidetracked...

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3 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

It is?

Tell me how to make it more complicated and overloaded right now! ?

by putting in too many words with some words that dont make sense to a newbie modder since it is advance skyrim modding lingo. XD

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8 minutes ago, johntrine said:

by putting in too many words with some words that dont make sense

See!

Exactly that is the reason why I use acronyms.

This way NO-ONE knows what I'm taking about, but also evade the use of too many words ?

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dude. imagine having to look for a guide to understand another guide... it was painful... even now while i learn how to convert armor... XD

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7 hours ago, Herma said:

This is fantastic! Only other mod I would add is Defeat :P

thx!

I try to list only mods that I tested and that worked at least 75% of the time ?

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4 hours ago, johntrine said:

dude. imagine having to look for a guide to understand another guide... it was painful... even now while i learn how to convert armor... XD

Don't forget to start a blog about your experiences!

I would read it.

Reminds me, I need a blog page about BS basics ?

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20 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Reminds me, I need a blog page about BS basics ?

Remember the quick guides like the 1-pager from Laura

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Update:

  • added @firepunch1's Critterfix idea (seems to prevent a few CTD on my game in wilderness cells)
  • removed DT3 because I can't guarantee it doesn't cause CTD on save if saved in an unlucky moment (while it is still calculating => causes SKSE save game to bloat, thus causes endless saving process), DT3 will be back in my other blog: LOL
  • removed MMG's experimental SL default animation replacer. It was preventing SL to register all creature animations and caused it to re-register creature animations on every load. This happened after updating to MNC SLAL v12.08 on a new game.
  • removed factoryclose SLAR modified version as download, because: YARRRR YARRRRRR. Newly added link works too tho.
  • repaired most mod author name links, guess I missed one or two

 

>  next update: overworking AIO-P entry and highlight the advantages of overwriting AIO-P with Bazinga's AWESOME Naturalistic JiggleWiggle! Why OH why didn't I try it earlier >.<

> adding one more DDi 4.3 patch @Zaflis  pointed at

 

EDIT 01:

I need an alternative to CPU's MCM sorting tool, don't be shy and post what worked for you.

Don't get me wrong the tool works fine if it is configured right at an early stage.

Playing around with the LO later can make issues tho.

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5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

overworking AIO-P entry and highlight the advantages of overwriting AIO-P with Bazinga's AWESOME Naturalistic JiggleWiggle! Why OH why didn't I try it earlier >.<

 

so you are adding a tutorial to adding collision on breast.... now i am a little motivated! XD

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8 minutes ago, johntrine said:

so you are adding a tutorial to adding collision on breast.... now i am a little motivated! XD

It's more like I recommend what to install and then I recommend with what you want to overwrite the recommendation ?

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8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

It's more like I recommend what to install and then I recommend with what you want to overwrite the recommendation ?

oh. man. i wish someone made a tutorial for breast collision. XD

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8 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I need an alternative to CPU's MCM sorting tool, don't be shy and post what worked for you.

Watch out for :

 

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On 6/14/2020 at 7:33 AM, worik said:

Watch out for :

Does that mean all MCMs would be hiding in in sub menus ?

What's with the ones you need quick access to?

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1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

What's with the ones you need quick access to?

Currently it is in that state as you see in the picture. But as far as I got it, your "favorites" is on the todo list. ?

I would like that feature, too. :classic_smile:

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2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Does that mean all MCMs would be hiding in in sub menus ?

What's with the ones you need quick access to?

could suggest the dev to add favorite menu?

1 hour ago, worik said:

Currently it is in that state as you see in the picture. But as far as I got it, your "favorites" is on the todo list. ?

I would like that feature, too. :classic_smile:

see!

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3 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

What's with the ones you need quick access to?

1 hour ago, johntrine said:

could suggest the dev to add favorite menu?

Post from june, 2nd

 

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Update:

  • ongoing investigation for spelling errors
  • added a warning to AIO-P installation, maybe it prevents some tears from @MadMansGun:
    • ⚠️DO NOT INSTALL ANY CREATURE RELATED OPTIONS OF AIO-P IF YOU PLAN TO USE MNC SLAL
  • added FNIS creature version fix for v7.6 (no more "?" in Sexlab).
    • I can't find the friendly modder that provided that fix first ?‍♂️
  • added Naturalistic HDT and Beast HDT 3.68 as recommended in use with AIO-P ( @Bazingais my new breast physics god - feel my shame for being so late with that insight - @27X never got tired to promote it EVERYWHERE on LL ?)
  • A new megalomaniac modder added a useful DDi patch. I present you @Kharos's Better NPC Support for Devious Devices 0.1 RC 3! DDi idles for all!
  • Added a warning that DDi Sexlab filters can break NPC-NPC Sexlab animations (causing them to do either solo animation instead of group animations or/and cause them to get stuck in a Sexlab animation stage)
    • @Kimy will hate me for that entry ?
  • Modern Brawl Bug fix got its own point in the bulleted list (to separate it from USMP)
  • added GagFX + GagFX patches are merge-able
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4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Modern Brawl Bug fix got its own point in the bulleted list (to separate it from USMP)

By the way: Did anybody try to merge it, yet ? ?

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10 hours ago, worik said:

By the way: Did anybody try to merge it, yet ? ?

Not me ?, atm because of Devious Vanilla (it overwrites scripts), but I can't recall a mod that has it as master.

We should create a combined LL mod merge list. Mine is pretty short, because I don't wanna break any of those and the are high priority mods in LO (getting more courageous by the month tho => usually means I try to break a working game ?‍♂️)

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I'm lacking behind with all the PC replacement work and now I'm stuck in the northern kingdoms for two weeks and trying to fix my mod lists over there ?

Spoiler

 

 

But I'll be back soon(tm) in Skyrim and posting a few functional merge suggestions sounds good :classic_happy:

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39 minutes ago, worik said:

I'm stuck in the northern kingdoms for two weeks and trying to fix my mod lists over there ?

Don't install the grind stone mod! It will only add tedious grinding to Witcher 3 ? (every 15 min I might add!) ?

 

Damn, now I'm lost in tabs. I hope you don't get lost in merges and add Skyrim mods to Witcher ?

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@donttouchmethere

Just.... wow.  Thank you.  

Will be going through this thread tonight, maybe switching from CBBE to UUNP
I've had CTD galore, devices not working properly, functions not working properly.... all the possible issues haha.  
I'll be remaking my game build over the next few days, following this setup.  Really, thank you!! 

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5 hours ago, sunnydayknight said:

devices not working properly

?!

5 hours ago, sunnydayknight said:

Thank you

YW ?!

5 hours ago, sunnydayknight said:

following this setup

I think my blog misses an explanation what "optional" and "alternatives" means ?

If you have questions just fire away ?

 

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YOU are incredible, I really cannot thank you enough for all the time it took you to gather this information. You made my game perfect .. again, thank you. ❤️

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