[AAF] M.C.G. (Extended Social Interactions)

[geraldofrivia]

thank you this mod , you make FO4 more alive.
For the moment i got not trouble with this mod it's running smoothly in my case.

My suggestion hoping to see the NPC Approach  similar to BakaFactory use with Sexlab Approach Redux.

An NPC can approach the player not only for sex just casual talking.
For example:

Npc:  Say Hi
Player can choose: - Say Hi.
                             - Cordial rejection
                             - Rude rejection  ( reputation penalty )

if the player say Hi the NPC can give the player some advice or just want to asking her/his name and maybe where she/he lives.
Obviously there is a chance NPC will ask for casual sex.

 

Good luck!

[深淵の神]

On 5/4/2019 at 2:31 AM, anghelos92 said:

Hi, i think that as long as your gamepad is compatible with MCM keybinding you're able to play with the gamepad only but you nees at least 2 buttons to assing for the MCG MAIN HOTKEY and the MCG OPTIONS HOTKEY

ThankS for the answer, it works using Xpadder (or any similar joystick-mouse/keyboard software) I just gonna post it here if there's another gamepad user. Just bind the "run" button to the assigned key, the "run" button is harmless when talking with npc's. You could use the "guide" button too for the mcg options key (Xbox controller) so it works just fine for me, thanks.

[anghelos92]

6 hours ago, supercaca said:

EDIT >>> NAH! The widjets dont work to me, even after desintall and reinstallation of the mod.

I am sorry then it's probably one of those new mods you installed, they probably change something that Hudframework needs, if i receive more reports about that i'll add those in the incompatibility list, in the mean time you can try in those mods support mentioning to them that their mods stopped your hudframework. Also to make surr you can try another mod that needs hudframework and see if that mod widgets works so you cam be extra sure that hudframework has really stopped working for you completely

[MrCruelJohn]

10 hours ago, supercaca said:

i just masturvated my waifu and loocked at the diary and at the status and they tell that my wear is at 20.

I installed DEF UI now and patched the Hudmenu.swf.

I think the mod works, it is just the widgets. Now Im gonna desinstall MCG and install again, start a new game and see if the widgets work.

 

EDIT >>> NAH! The widjets dont work to me, even after desintall and reinstallation of the mod.

Make sure you install the DEF UI HUD FRAME WORK compatibility patch too.

[深淵の神]

Oh I noticed some minor detail here. I'm using AAF animations and all the required patches and installed some other mods and I sadly notice there's no freefly cam during animations with AAF but use some sort of duplication character system, it doesn't matter really because it does the job. My problem here is that I cannot move the "doppelganger" during M.C.G. interactions, I can rotate the camera but cannot walk, the doppelganger freeze in place for some unknown reason, but only happens with this mod. Is this mod blocking the "camera man" movement? Or Do I need some sort of POV camera mod? 

[anghelos92]

1 hour ago, サマエル said:

Oh I noticed some minor detail here. I'm using AAF animations and all the required patches and installed some other mods and I sadly notice there's no freefly cam during animations with AAF but use some sort of duplication character system, it doesn't matter really because it does the job. My problem here is that I cannot move the "doppelganger" during M.C.G. interactions, I can rotate the camera but cannot walk, the doppelganger freeze in place for some unknown reason, but only happens with this mod. Is this mod blocking the "camera man" movement? Or Do I need some sort of POV camera mod? 

I don't have this problem you said, did you installed MCG using the loose file? (The loose files have an old LL.pex script for modders, if you installed that and overwrite your script with that you messed your install, as i said in the OP)

 

 

MCG don't change anything about LL cameras, i did that in the four play version...you did not install that old version together with this, right?

 

Also can you be more specific about what interactions? In all interactions or i.e. when the player is defeated? 

[nitemares]

Hey there, First off; I think this is a great mod! And I appreciate the time you have put into the mod! 

 

I do however, think I have found a bug, or possibly a mod conflict that has to do with the affinity of companions (in my case Piper). 

 

First, it should be noted that I also use AFT (Advanced Followers Tweaks) as a method of getting more then one follower at a time, AND it has the ability to limit companion's reactions to affinity checks (stop/convert dislike actions to like actions, etc.) HOWEVER; I have not initiated those features during the play through. (Doesn't mean they haven't caused a conflict, from what I understand of coding however.)

 

So for the play through that I noticed this affinity bug, I had both Cait and Piper as my companions . And while Cait would gain affinity for actions, Piper LOST affinity-even for actions she liked such as lock picking! (it would even say "Piper liked that", then drop the overall total.) 

 

I tested it with Piper and Cait by checking their affinity with MCG options, then picked a lock (they both like that action) Cait would gain in Affinity by 16 points, but Piper would lose affinity by 22! If I gave Sheffield a cola, (an action that Piper loves, but Cait hates) Cait would lose 22 affinity, and Piper would lose 22 affinity... If I was mouthy (Piper dislikes, Cait likes) Piper would lose 22, Cait would gain 16... 

I will admit that I have not test it solely with Piper...

 

Thought you might want to know... 

[anghelos92]

1 hour ago, nitemares said:

Hey there, First off; I think this is a great mod! And I appreciate the time you have put into the mod! 

 

I do however, think I have found a bug, or possibly a mod conflict that has to do with the affinity of companions (in my case Piper). 

 

First, it should be noted that I also use AFT (Advanced Followers Tweaks) as a method of getting more then one follower at a time, AND it has the ability to limit companion's reactions to affinity checks (stop/convert dislike actions to like actions, etc.) HOWEVER; I have not initiated those features during the play through. (Doesn't mean they haven't caused a conflict, from what I understand of coding however.)

 

So for the play through that I noticed this affinity bug, I had both Cait and Piper as my companions . And while Cait would gain affinity for actions, Piper LOST affinity-even for actions she liked such as lock picking! (it would even say "Piper liked that", then drop the overall total.) 

 

I tested it with Piper and Cait by checking their affinity with MCG options, then picked a lock (they both like that action) Cait would gain in Affinity by 16 points, but Piper would lose affinity by 22! If I gave Sheffield a cola, (an action that Piper loves, but Cait hates) Cait would lose 22 affinity, and Piper would lose 22 affinity... If I was mouthy (Piper dislikes, Cait likes) Piper would lose 22, Cait would gain 16... 

I will admit that I have not test it solely with Piper...

 

Thought you might want to know... 

Thanks for reporting,

MCG doesn't change the vanilla way of gaining or loosing affinity. I am sure that if you uninstall MCG and you run the consolle command "getvalue CA_affinity" pointing your companions you'll see that they loose and gain affinity as they should even with MCG uninstalled, so this is hardly an MCG conflict. What MCG does to affinity are 2 things: If and only if you have the infidelty reporting system enabled and a romanced companion see your treason they reset they affinity to 0. If and only if you have the crime system enabled and a companion with more than 100 affinity see you doing public sex then you loose 100 affinity. MCG don't do anything else to affinity. So can you try with MCG uninstalled and run that command to see if that behaviour is still present? In that case is an AFT bug. If they havent then try to put MCG before AFT in load order, if AFT is an .esp (i don't remember)

 

If you do those tests and report you'll do me a favor, if there's really a bug we'll find it

[supercaca]

10 hours ago, MrCruelJohn said:

Make sure you install the DEF UI HUD FRAME WORK compatibility patch too.

Already did.

 

14 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

I am sorry then it's probably one of those new mods you installed, they probably change something that Hudframework needs, if i receive more reports about that i'll add those in the incompatibility list, in the mean time you can try in those mods support mentioning to them that their mods stopped your hudframework. Also to make surr you can try another mod that needs hudframework and see if that mod widgets works so you cam be extra sure that hudframework has really stopped working for you completely

I think it is a problem with the LO. One odd thing it is when i look the pipboy, what happens is when in game i look to my pipboy the compas and the follower widget and the MCG widgets activate, it started when the widgets of this mod stopped working, also i notify in my last playtrhough that the follower bar widgets doesnt work either, but ... activates when i look in to the pipboy. Something is wrong here and i feel it has to do with some plugin.

Here is my LO if someone can give me a suggestion or something, i greatly apreciate it.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Fallout4.esm
01  DLCRobot.esm
02  DLCworkshop01.esm
03  DLCCoast.esm
04  DLCWorkshop02.esm
05  DLCWorkshop03.esm
06  DLCNukaWorld.esm
07  Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]
08  ArmorKeywords.esm
09  HUDFramework.esm
0A  PipBoyCustomisationFramework.esm
0B  AAF.esm  [Version 73.0]
0C  TBOSBT2.esl
0D  FusionGirlLooksMenu.esl
0E  Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
0F  Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
10  Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
11  Crazy_Animation_Rugs.esp
12  VIO_Strap-On.esp
13  four_play.esp
14  Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
15  CumNWealth.esp
16  AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
17  TransferSettlements.esp
18  DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
19  dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
1A  Performance Of The Gods - Standard - DLCs.esp
1B  Live Action Handy Pre-War.esp
1C  KSHairdos.esp
1D  Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp  [Version 3.0]
1E  AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
1F  MiscHairstyle.esp
20  a89_pipboycustom.esp
21  The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
22  LooksMenu.esp
23  SettlementMenuManager.esp
24  Armorsmith Extended.esp
25  Unique NPCs.esp
26  HiPolyFaces.esp
27  UniqueFemaleFollowers.esp
28  UniqueFemalePlayer.esp
29  clothingoverhaul.esp
2A  Extended weapon mods.esp
2B  SuperMutantRedux.esp
2C  OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
2D  InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
2E  AA FusionCityRising.esp
2F  AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
30  Unique NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.esp
31  ClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.esp
32  Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
33  Interiors Enhanced and Fog Remover Synergy Patch.esp
34  CheatTerminal.esp
35  Vivid Waters.esp
36  PBCF_UCO_Patch.esp
37  AtomicBeauty.esp
38  CBBE.esp
39  LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
3A  ProjectValkyrie.esp
3B  AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
3C  EFF.esp
3D  def_inv_scrap_en.esp
3E  FemaleSuperMutantRedux.esp
3F  MMP4APA-blue.esp
40  IP4APA.esp
41  DBC.esp
42  No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
43  BetterSettlers.esp
44  Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp
45  PBCF_Seed.esp
46  CROSS_Uni_BosUniform.esp
47  Evil Detective Outfit.esp
48  2pacSkimpy.esp
49  Patterned Leggings.esp
4A  Commonweath Vans.esp
4B  bTankTop.esp
4C  Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp
4D  Toxic Raider Armour.esp
4E  HAAS Nuka World AE Edition.esp
4F  HAAS Core AE Edition.esp
50  HAAS Far Harbor AE Edition.esp
51  HAAS Automatron AE Edition.esp
52  CigaretteInMouth.esp
53  Deathclaw Hunter Armor Nuka World.esp
54  HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
55  TheKite_MilitiaWoman.esp
56  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp
57  TheKite_CaitSet.esp
58  Taboolicious_StreetBrawler.esp
59  CROSS_Swimsuit.esp
5A  CROSS_CharredVaultSuit.esp
5B  ToughGirlAttire.esp
5C  NukaRadBans.esp
5D  TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp
5E  DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
5F  DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
60  slootyVaultSuit.esp
61  wasterArmor.esp
62  BlackRoseRedux.esp
63  rfortaleza2.esp
64  rpampas.esp
65  Grim_Boosette.esp
66  el_precursorsuit.esp
67  GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp
68  Cammy Tactical Suit.esp
69  DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp
6A  HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
6B  xy - Jumpsuits.esp
6C  xy - Misty Outfit.esp
6D  Rage_Mistral_Concept_Armor.esp
6E  Valerian_Armor.esp
6F  Female Tactical Armor.esp
70  sarahRageArmor.esp
71  NewerMind43 Nano Suit.esp
72  AWPWandererCoat.esp
73  BlackCat.esp
74  Crimsomrider's Tomb Raider.esp
75  Archimedes-II.esp
76  TheKite_VTS.esp
77  EG7.esp
78  CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
79  CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethalAddon.esp
7A  CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethal_DLCHelmets.esp.esp
7B  OARPVCustomFollowers.esp
7C  SavageCabbage_Animations.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
7D  Rufgt's Animations.esp
7E  Farelle_Animations.esp
7F  Mutated Lust.esp
80  GrayUserBPAnimations.esp
81  Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
82  ZaZOut4.esp
83  rxl_bp70_animations.esp
84  Atomic Lust.esp
85  AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
86  FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
87  LightUp2.0.esp
88  CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp
89  FO3VaultSuit.esp
8A  CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
8B  CROSS_CoA.esp
8C  CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
8D  CROSS_CryoLance.esp
8E  CROSS_2077.esp
8F  CROSS_Blades.esp
90  CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
91  CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
92  CWSS Redux.esp
93  CompanionStatus.esp
94  AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
95  FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
96  MagnoCumGaudio.esp
97  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Could be the bashed patch? Gonna try that now...

 

EDIT >>> No, i removed the bashed path and nothing still the widgets at zero.

 

[anghelos92]

11 minutes ago, supercaca said:

EDIT >>> No, i removed the bashed path and nothing still the widgets at zero.

A couple of questions: (i apologize if i already asked to you because my memory is not good when having to attend to mods in different games)

 

-did you installed the MCG loose files?

-did you ever installed the MCG loose files? (Even if you unistalled them now)

- did you ever installed the old MCG version that was for four play or the earlier AAF (the one called once MCG 1.7.10)?

-did you try the reset widget button in the debug page of MCG?

-did you tried installing a mod dependent on hudframework like the time clock mod by registrator2000 and see if it works? Try that mod with MCG unistalled and MCG installed to see if it works in one of those case.

-what's in the bashed patch?

 

This said, you can move MCG from that load order and put it higher, it should not give you problems, try to put it the highest possible

 

Report your test, we'll find the problem ?

 

(It's possible that i'll answer you tomorrow though because it's almost sleeping time for me in CEST)

[supercaca]

2 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

A couple of questions: (i apologize if i already asked to you because my memory is not good when having to attend to mods in different games)

 

-did you installed the MCG loose files?

-did you ever installed the MCG loose files? (Even if you unistalled them now)

- did you ever installed the old MCG version that was for four play or the earlier AAF (the one called once MCG 1.7.10)?

-did you try the reset widget button in the debug page of MCG?

-did you tried installing a mod dependent on hudframework like the time clock mod by registrator2000 and see if it works? Try that mod with MCG unistalled and MCG installed to see if it works in one of those case.

-what's in the bashed patch?

 

This said, you can move MCG from that load order and put it higher, it should not give you problems, try to put it the highest possible

 

Report your test, we'll find the problem ?

 

(It's possible that i'll answer you tomorrow though because it's almost sleeping time for me in CEST)

- I tried now the loose files version, with no success.

- Never installed the loose files version of the mod, until now.

- I think i installed that mod but it was in another fallout 4.

- I tried several times, and dont do nothing the widgets remain at zero even when i have in the diary and in the stats menu 20 points of wear.

- I installed now, exited the vault and worked fantastically. It marks my timezone and the game time with precission.

- The bashed patch do the leveld lists it's the only option wrye bash has at the moment for fallout 4, i think.

 

This is my actual LO.

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Fallout4.esm
01  DLCRobot.esm
02  DLCworkshop01.esm
03  DLCCoast.esm
04  DLCWorkshop02.esm
05  DLCWorkshop03.esm
06  DLCNukaWorld.esm
07  Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]
08  ArmorKeywords.esm
09  HUDFramework.esm
0A  PipBoyCustomisationFramework.esm
0B  AAF.esm  [Version 73.0]
0C  TBOSBT2.esl
0D  FusionGirlLooksMenu.esl
0E  HoloTime_2.esp
0F  Unique NPCs.esp
10  clothingoverhaul.esp
11  SuperMutantRedux.esp
12  OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
13  InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
14  VIO_Strap-On.esp
15  Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
16  Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
17  Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
18  TransferSettlements.esp
19  DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
1A  dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
1B  Performance Of The Gods - Standard - DLCs.esp
1C  Live Action Handy Pre-War.esp
1D  KSHairdos.esp
1E  AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
1F  MiscHairstyle.esp
20  The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
21  Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp  [Version 3.0]
22  a89_pipboycustom.esp
23  LooksMenu.esp
24  SettlementMenuManager.esp
25  HiPolyFaces.esp
26  Extended weapon mods.esp
27  AA FusionCityRising.esp
28  AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
29  Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
2A  Interiors Enhanced and Fog Remover Synergy Patch.esp
2B  ClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.esp
2C  CheatTerminal.esp
2D  Vivid Waters.esp
2E  ProjectValkyrie.esp
2F  MagnoCumGaudio.esp
30  BetterSettlers.esp
31  PBCF_Seed.esp
32  Unique NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.esp
33  PBCF_UCO_Patch.esp
34  AtomicBeauty.esp
35  CBBE.esp
36  LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
37  EFF.esp
38  def_inv_scrap_en.esp
39  FemaleSuperMutantRedux.esp
3A  No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
3B  Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp
3C  OARPVCustomFollowers.esp
3D  UniqueFemaleFollowers.esp
3E  UniqueFemalePlayer.esp
3F  MMP4APA-blue.esp
40  IP4APA.esp
41  DBC.esp
42  AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
43  Crazy_Animation_Rugs.esp
44  four_play.esp
45  Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
46  CumNWealth.esp
47  AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
48  SavageCabbage_Animations.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
49  Rufgt's Animations.esp
4A  Farelle_Animations.esp
4B  Mutated Lust.esp
4C  GrayUserBPAnimations.esp
4D  Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
4E  ZaZOut4.esp
4F  rxl_bp70_animations.esp
50  Atomic Lust.esp
51  AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
52  FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
53  CompanionStatus.esp
54  CigaretteInMouth.esp
55  LightUp2.0.esp
56  CWSS Redux.esp
57  AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
58  FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
59  StartMeUp.esp
5A  StartMeUpFarHarborPatch.esp
5B  StartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp
5C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I deactivate all mods of armor, equip and weapons still having the same issue when i look at the pipboy and the paralisis at zero of the widgets of MCG.

 

I also erased some folders... like the script and F4SE folder in the data of fallout 4.  And in my documents the folder for saving the options of some mods. I had to put the options of the survival unloker again ...

After erasing, i annealled all the intallers with the wrye bash installer to start from scracht, a fresh install of scripts and F4SE plugins, if you can call that. And still having that problem...

 

I dont know i think it maybe be the mod to personalize the pipboy because it is very weird that the hud shows up in the pipboy menu. And that's all i learned at the moment.

[anghelos92]

6 hours ago, supercaca said:

dont know i think it maybe be the mod to personalize the pipboy because it is very weird that the hud shows up in the pipboy menu. And that's all i learned at the moment.

It seems you did already all you can do...mmm ? can you open your f4edit and see if the "anghelosWidgets" quest in MCG is highlighted as in a conflict?

 

Remember to unistall the loose files, and use the normal packed version now

[supercaca]

 

 

I desinstalled your mod, now im using the good old RSE packages... And the problem of the compass showing in the pipboy menu still persists, so it's not your mod, but the strange thing is why only affect the widgets of your mod, and only those widgets aaaaand only that feature of your mod, this thing is quite weird.

When you update your mod or when i have time and get pissed off i'll will do the analisis with F4edit.

I've been playing modded games since oblivion and this bug is beeing hard to track down, I believe it has to do with my  last redownload and update of the AAF packages... or maybe it is another thing... for now im gonna play some because im getting mad with this bug.

 

Here is the proof of the "Compass on Pipboy menu bug"

 

[markyy0902]

Can we prostitute our companions to other NPCs?

[Lodakai]

2 hours ago, markyy0902 said:

Can we prostitute our companions to other NPCs?

you can use this mod alongside just business... it's fairly simple to swap slaves between the 2 systems. Just go hunter mode and mark the MCG slave, you can re-enslave into that system.  Then to swap into MCG use combat submit dialogue.. just know that it is will be marked as a crime, so you need to do it in a private area.   Using both has many advantages, but the downside is that Just Business requires XDI, and that will mess with the values displays of MCG.  If you can live with that, it works pretty well.

 

Also swapping slaves between the 2 systems will reset their stored values, so keep that in mind.

[CFU]

On 5/6/2019 at 1:15 AM, anghelos92 said:

tell the mod author to at least add a vanilla keyword like "actortypehuman".

 

I'm playing using a custom player race, that has this keyword. But it still isn't compatible with this and mods like AAF prostitution/violate. 
Is there any way I can fix that?

[anghelos92]

11 minutes ago, CFU said:

I'm playing using a custom player race, that has this keyword. But it still isn't compatible with this and mods like AAF prostitution/violate. 
Is there any way I can fix that?

I need to know exactly what that mod changes to be able to help. Is that mod changing only the player or also the npcs?

 

Edit >>> a question: does sexual animation involving the player play when you have that mod?

[nitemares]

22 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

Thanks for reporting,

MCG doesn't change the vanilla way of gaining or loosing affinity. I am sure that if you uninstall MCG and you run the consolle command "getvalue CA_affinity" pointing your companions you'll see that they loose and gain affinity as they should even with MCG uninstalled, so this is hardly an MCG conflict. What MCG does to affinity are 2 things: If and only if you have the infidelty reporting system enabled and a romanced companion see your treason they reset they affinity to 0. If and only if you have the crime system enabled and a companion with more than 100 affinity see you doing public sex then you loose 100 affinity. MCG don't do anything else to affinity. So can you try with MCG uninstalled and run that command to see if that behaviour is still present? In that case is an AFT bug. If they havent then try to put MCG before AFT in load order, if AFT is an .esp (i don't remember)

 

If you do those tests and report you'll do me a favor, if there's really a bug we'll find it

 

I haven't been able to nail anything down, but there is definitely some sort of error or bug in the affinity system and the interaction of MCG and AFT....

I say this because I have used AFT for over a year with no affinity issues on multiple playthroughs, But once I had AFT and MCG together, well.... Piper will no longer talk to me anymore as Apparently opening locks and hacking terminals pushed me to -4500 affinity in 30 minutes

So, reloading a save game and using some console commands, I set Piper's affinity to 1600 (only shows as 1500... (it always chops 100 points off what I type and what gets reported through MCG affinity report. ) And I took a screen shots... just before, during, and after a lock pick... and Piper, while she like picking locks... drops 500 affinity!

 

Will test on a new game without MCG installed, and then without  AFT installed and let you know.... 

 

[anghelos92]

5 minutes ago, nitemares said:

 

I haven't been able to nail anything down, but there is definitely some sort of error or bug in the affinity system and the interaction of MCG and AFT....

I say this because I have used AFT for over a year with no affinity issues on multiple playthroughs, But once I had AFT and MCG together, well.... Piper will no longer talk to me anymore as Apparently opening locks and hacking terminals pushed me to -4500 affinity in 30 minutes

So, reloading a save game and using some console commands, I set Piper's affinity to 1600 (only shows as 1500... (it always chops 100 points off what I type and what gets reported through MCG affinity report. ) And I took a screen shots... just before, during, and after a lock pick... and Piper, while she like picking locks... drops 500 affinity!

 

Will test on a new game without MCG installed, and then without  AFT installed and let you know.... 

 

Try it without MCG and using the commands i told you about, maybe you didn't noticed this behaviour because you had not MCG that let you see the affinity with a simple button. I find very difficult to believe this can be done by MCG because there is not even the code for that behaviour in the mod...well we'll see sometimes programming is not a science

 

by yhe way don't test on a new game, test it in the same game without MCG installed or else we can't pinpoint the culprit.

[nitemares]

Ok, I did some more testing, as best as I was able. 

 

from what I was able to test, MCG and AFT play well together with a single companion and their affinities. 

 

With AFT installed and MCG disabled, companion affinity tracks as it should. 

With MCG installed and AFT disabled, again companion affinity tracks as it should.

With BOTH MCG and AFT installed with a single companion, affinity tracks as it should...

 

So, if there is a bug or conflict (and not just something wacky with my game -hey! it could happen! I do have a bunch of other mods as well and conflicts could be anywhere!) between the two mods, it coming in when you have more then one companion at the same time. and thus I can't really test that as MCG doesn't have multiple companion support built into it  

 

not sure if that helps you any, or not... but that's as far as I can go with my limited computer and mod experience.

 

***on a side note, I use Vortex and I am not too familiar with it, but when I tried to change the load order of these two mods, I got a CTD every time which I don't know how to fix,. So the load order hasn't changed from the original Vortex sorting. 

[nitemares]

1 hour ago, anghelos92 said:

Try it without MCG and using the commands i told you about, maybe you didn't noticed this behaviour because you had not MCG that let you see the affinity with a simple button. I find very difficult to believe this can be done by MCG because there is not even the code for that behaviour in the mod...well we'll see sometimes programming is not a science

 

by yhe way don't test on a new game, test it in the same game without MCG installed or else we can't pinpoint the culprit.

Sorry, went ahead and did my other testing before reading your response ?

 

I went into the same game, and disabled MCG, and did some lock picking...

 

and Piper's affinity continued to drop... So, as you suspected, it doesn't seem to be an MCG issue, but an issue with some other mod. 

Odd that this issue only came up when I installed MCG 2.41 from an older version and started a new game....

 

but, that's the life of a modded game  

 

thanks for your help with this issue.... I'll start looking into other mods that could be causing the problem. 

[anghelos92]

1 hour ago, nitemares said:

Odd that this issue only came up when I installed MCG 2.41 from an older version and started a new game....

 

but, that's the life of a modded game  

 

thanks for your help with this issue.... I'll start looking into other mods that could be causing the problem. 

You're welcome, i am sorry i can't help more but as i said my humble opinion is you already had this issue but you did not notice because you were not using consolle commands for companions to check their affinity each time you did a lockpick, with MCG instead is very easy to check companions affinity and because of this you had the opportunity to find this strange behaviour.

Hope you'll find the culprit

[BAB PEEG]

I also noticed this with MCG and ATF that my followers points were rocketing down even if I set them to love everything, I'll have to test it more.

[anghelos92]

7 hours ago, BAB PEEG said:

I also noticed this with MCG and ATF that my followers points were rocketing down even if I set them to love everything, I'll have to test it more.

Do as i said to the previous user: unistall MCG and use the consolle commands to check your companions affinity. I bet they rocket down the same, probably a problem with ATF. MCG don't have the code to make those changes. And as i said you probably noted this behaviour with MCG because this mod let you check the affinity very easily, while before you didn't use the consolle commands like you are now using that MCG button.

 

Also can you open your game in f4edit and see if any of the ATF quests are highlighted in red because they are overridden by MCG? If so please tell me what quests are higlighted.

 

When you finish the tests let me know, if this is Indeed a conflict i'll try to resolve it

[supercaca]

On 5/8/2019 at 8:09 AM, anghelos92 said:

It seems you did already all you can do...mmm ? can you open your f4edit and see if the "anghelosWidgets" quest in MCG is highlighted as in a conflict?

 

Remember to unistall the loose files, and use the normal packed version now

I did what you asked and the widgets quest shows nomal.

 

 

Here is my new LO.

 

 

00  Fallout4.esm

01  DLCRobot.esm
02  DLCworkshop01.esm
03  DLCCoast.esm
04  DLCWorkshop02.esm
05  DLCWorkshop03.esm
06  DLCNukaWorld.esm
07  Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]
08  ArmorKeywords.esm
09  TortureDevices.esm
0A  HUDFramework.esm
0B  PipBoyCustomisationFramework.esm
0C  AAF.esm  [Version 73.0]
0D  TBOSBT2.esl
0E  CROSS_Uni_BosUniform.esp
0F  Evil Detective Outfit.esp
10  Armorsmith Extended.esp
11  Unique NPCs.esp
12  CompanionIvy.esp
13  clothingoverhaul.esp
14  2pacSkimpy.esp
15  Toxic Raider Armour.esp
16  HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
17  TheKite_MilitiaWoman.esp
18  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp
19  TheKite_CaitSet.esp
1A  Taboolicious_StreetBrawler.esp
1B  CROSS_Swimsuit.esp
1C  SuperMutantRedux.esp
1D  OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
1E  InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
1F  CROSS_CharredVaultSuit.esp
20  TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp
21  DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
22  DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
23  slootyVaultSuit.esp
24  BlackRoseRedux.esp
25  rfortaleza2.esp
26  rpampas.esp
27  Grim_Boosette.esp
28  el_precursorsuit.esp
29  GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp
2A  Cammy Tactical Suit.esp
2B  DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp
2C  HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
2D  xy - Jumpsuits.esp
2E  xy - Misty Outfit.esp
2F  Rage_Mistral_Concept_Armor.esp
30  Valerian_Armor.esp
31  Female Tactical Armor.esp
32  sarahRageArmor.esp
33  NewerMind43 Nano Suit.esp
34  AWPWandererCoat.esp
35  BlackCat.esp
36  Crimsomrider's Tomb Raider.esp
37  CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
38  CROSS_CoA.esp
39  VIO_Strap-On.esp
3A  CROSS_Blades.esp
3B  CROSS_CryoLance.esp
3C  CROSS_2077.esp
3D  EG7.esp
3E  Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
3F  Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
40  Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
41  TransferSettlements.esp
42  DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
43  dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
44  Performance Of The Gods - Standard - DLCs.esp
45  Live Action Handy Pre-War.esp
46  KSHairdos.esp
47  AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
48  MiscHairstyle.esp
49  The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
4A  Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp  [Version 3.0]
4B  a89_pipboycustom.esp
4C  LooksMenu.esp
4D  SettlementMenuManager.esp
4E  HiPolyFaces.esp
4F  Extended weapon mods.esp
50  AA FusionCityRising.esp
51  AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
52  Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
53  Interiors Enhanced and Fog Remover Synergy Patch.esp
54  CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
55  CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethalAddon.esp
56  CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethal_DLCHelmets.esp.esp
57  CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
58  ClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.esp
59  CheatTerminal.esp
5A  Vivid Waters.esp
5B  ProjectValkyrie.esp
5C  BetterSettlers.esp
5D  MagnoCumGaudio.esp
5E  CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp
5F  PBCF_Seed.esp
60  NukaRadBans.esp
61  FO3VaultSuit.esp
62  CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
63  CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
64  Archimedes-II.esp
65  TheKite_VTS.esp
66  Unique NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.esp
67  PBCF_UCO_Patch.esp
68  AtomicBeauty.esp
69  CBBE.esp
6A  LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
6B  TDOW_LM_Skins.esp
6C  EFF.esp
6D  def_inv_scrap_en.esp
6E  FemaleSuperMutantRedux.esp
6F  No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
70  Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp
71  OARPVCustomFollowers.esp
72  UniqueFemaleFollowers.esp
73  UniqueFemalePlayer.esp
74  MMP4APA-blue.esp
75  IP4APA.esp
76  DBC.esp
77  AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
78  four_play.esp
79  CumNWealth.esp
7A  AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
7B  SavageCabbage_Animations.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
7C  Rufgt's Animations.esp
7D  Farelle_Animations.esp
7E  Mutated Lust.esp
7F  GrayUserBPAnimations.esp
80  Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
81  ZaZOut4.esp
82  rxl_bp70_animations.esp
83  Atomic Lust.esp
84  AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
85  FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
86  FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
87  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I desinstalled companion status bars with no succes in catching the culprit of the mod, i am still getting the compass on pipboy bug, i'm gonna reinstall it now as i'm writing this.