[AAF] M.C.G. (Extended Social Interactions)

[xyzxyz]

My player was defeated and raped by ghouls. After the sex scene both player and ghoul are stuck for ever and nothing else happens. I have no RSA scenarios so what could happen with MCG only? I wasn't asked to respawn or anything.

[minibw]

2 hours ago, Martin56 said:

Make a screenshot of the admin tab of the AAF manager: buttons sequence to show it while you are in game is: home - delete - delete - enter.

If you don't see any reports or errors then reinstall F4SE, AAF and MCG again, it must be an installation problem. 

If you have this problem again after the reinstallation process then disable each one, one at time, of the other sexual mods you have and check if you have that error with MCG and AAF both enabled, I suggest to start disabling Sexual Harassment and the attribute framework first, then the beggar whore mod, but I don't think that can interfere since lots of people are using them together with MCG without technical issues.

 

Huh...for some reason when I press the home key it doesn't bring up the AAF manager like it should.  I had thought that the mods were working because Looksmenu and the MCM were both active, but now I'm thinking MO2 might not be loading them all the way it should.

 

2 hours ago, fred200 said:

My questions would be:

What were the specific steps you took to install F4SE? MO 2 or Manual? (Manual gives less room for error if you follow the included instructions)

How are you launching the game?

I installed F4SE manually (moved the files data directly into the Fallout4 folder) but I was loading the exe file from MO2.

 

I'll have to go back to the drawing board after work and figure out what MO2 is doing wrong here, because that's looking more and more like the culprit right now.  Thanks for the help everyone.

[fred200]

7 minutes ago, minibw said:

Huh...for some reason when I press the home key it doesn't bring up the AAF manager like it should.  I had thought that the mods were working because Looksmenu and the MCM were both active, but now I'm thinking MO2 might not be loading them all the way it should.

 

I installed F4SE manually (moved the files data directly into the Fallout4 folder) but I was loading the exe file from MO2.

 

I'll have to go back to the drawing board after work and figure out what MO2 is doing wrong here, because that's looking more and more like the culprit right now.  Thanks for the help everyone.

Make sure the executables (exe, dll's) wind up in the game directory and the scripts wind up in data/scripts. If the scripts don't make it, many mods will say F4SE is not installed.

[Martin56]

6 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

My player was defeated and raped by ghouls. After the sex scene both player and ghoul are stuck for ever and nothing else happens. I have no RSA scenarios so what could happen with MCG only? I wasn't asked to respawn or anything.

Set rape turns to only 1 and the rape distribution to max followers for the moment, it seems the multi rape turn is creating an issue for another user and you seem to have the same problem which will be investigated when anghelos will be back.

[xyzxyz]

31 minutes ago, Martin56 said:

Set rape turns to only 1 and the rape distribution to max followers for the moment, it seems the multi rape turn is creating an issue for another user and you seem to have the same problem which will be investigated when anghelos will be back.

That could be the problem but max follower was already set and the actors got stuck after the first scene. I'm not sure what happend with my follower, he was out of sight. Are male followers even used in the rape scenes?

[minibw]

Okay yeah...now I'm having an entirely different type of problem.  My mods are enabled in the MO2 right-hand menu, everything is in the right place when I take a look in the "Explore Virtual Folder" option.  And when I'm actually inside the game, the MCM loads up (albeit with a "$" in front of it) and it looks like the LooksMenu is active as well when I create a new character; I see the names of facial parts on the right side and alternate body options like skins and clothing, albeit without anything in those options.  The game outright tells me that I have mods active when I start it, and that it's deactivating achievements because of that.  The "Start Me Up" alternate start mod activates when I'm done with character creation and literally ports me into the alternate start.

 

But...that's it.  Nothing else is actually working.  The meshes and textures that I downloaded and created in Bodyslide aren't appearing.  The mods I downloaded don't do anything, even though I can actually adjust their settings in the existing MCM.  For example: I can turn on the Bad End: Purgatory mod, but getting killed just leaves me dead and reloading.  Despite the fact that everything looks like it's doing the right thing, in reality it's as if I hadn't modded the game at all in spite of the alternate start I got!  Heck...if I save my modded game, turn off mods, and reload that save, it shows me all the mods that the save is missing.

 

Does anyone have a clue how I've managed to jank things up to this point?  How could the mods be loaded...but not affect the game at all?

 

I'm about another load away from trying to do this on Vortex instead.  Is that a good mod manager to use?

[Martin56]

28 minutes ago, minibw said:

I'm about another load away from trying to do this on Vortex instead.  Is that a good mod manager to use?

Yeah at this point using Vortex could be beneficial for you but not because it is better than MO2 (for someone it is, for others it's the contrary) but because installing it anew you will probably configure it right becaise it's clear MO2 is not doing its job in your case and above all your F4SE is not loading, fred200 is right. When you will install Vortex make sure you install it in the same disk of your Fallout 4 install folder because i don't know if vortex uses crappy symlinks as NMM did.

[Martin56]

7 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Are male followers even used in the rape scenes?

They are...if you have the animations or the xmls that let them be "receivers" of the rape.

[xyzxyz]

The defeat rape part is kind of unreliable for me. When player and follower get defeated only the player got raped although the follower and 6 enemies stood right next to her. Or sometimes the player gets defeated and the follower surrenders but then the "fatally wounded" scenario triggers. I use the max follower  setting.

[dawnironsword]

how do you disable the flirt option when you do a speech check i turn it of but its still on help please

[Maretti1337]

What reason there may be for NPCs to never approach me?(fallout4) I don't have any incompatible or conflicting mods, dialogues work when I initiate them.

[maddadicusrex]

2 hours ago, Maretti1337 said:

What reason there may be for NPCs to never approach me?(fallout4) I don't have any incompatible or conflicting mods, dialogues work when I initiate them.

The Divisor # being high is the reason...Set Flirt to 100% and Divisor to 1-2.....Set Prostitute to 75% and Divisor to 1-2......Should see a big difference. I also set Cheat Flirt and Prostitute to on..

[maldoren]

This mod crashes for me when trying to save after starting the mod, the mod itself works and I can play the game normally but when I try to save I CTD instantly.

[maddadicusrex]

36 minutes ago, maldoren said:

This mod crashes for me when trying to save after starting the mod, the mod itself works and I can play the game normally but when I try to save I CTD instantly.

Not this mod. You must have another conflict. Do an internet search (not just a LL search) for your issue..

[SurrealCruelty]

On 12/31/2019 at 3:36 AM, minibw said:

...Does anyone have a clue how I've managed to jank things up to this point?  How could the mods be loaded...but not affect the game at all?

 

I'm about another load away from trying to do this on Vortex instead.  Is that a good mod manager to use?

nvm read your other posts about manual installation of F4SE

 

Vortex might work, so might just stripping everything down, reinstalling the game and starting over fresh.

 

I had a lot of issues with settlement cells getting corrupted, and I also had issues with animations not playing correctly.  Stripped everything down to base game, made sure all of the various script folders got removed, and reinstalled everything again.

[Toto2369]

Hi,

 

Very good mod.

I use "Better settlers" and "what's your name" mod. They all can "remember" things about settlers. Is there a way that I can do the same with MCG?

[Guest]

@anghelos92 && @Martin56

 

As a note gents, I will be making a patch for MCG and Crime And Punishment, so that your slave NPCs will count towards my new Prisoner Settlement System. Basically, the patch will take your two actor templates for slaves and add a new script to their actor form that contains all of the setup and monitoring scripting for my settlement system, which includes punishments (hanging, stockades, beating and imprisonment), Random Events like Runaway Prisoners, Prisoner Freedom (where members of a prisoner's faction will raid the settlement to try and free them) and Prisoner Uprisings where prisoners will revolt and try to take a settlement over from the player. It will change nothing on your layers of scripting for these actor types, just make them recognized by my system as actual prisoners (slaves) within the settlements and be able to action on them for random events and the like.

 

No estimate on when that will be done for review, but it will definitely be available for CAP's official release on Feb 7th, 2020.

[Guest]

Okay... so I lied; its done now and will be live when CAP releases.

 

All it does is add a new script to the actors that adds some actor values, keywords and registers them for a few events (OnNPCTransfer, OnDeath and OnHit), all for the purposes of my workshop script to be able to track them, on a settlement by settlement basis and also to be able, as noted above, to use them in various scripted "quest" events.

 

 

[Martin56]

9 hours ago, Flashy (JoeR) said:

Okay... so I lied; its done now and will be live when CAP releases.

 

All it does is add a new script to the actors that adds some actor values, keywords and registers them for a few events (OnNPCTransfer, OnDeath and OnHit), all for the purposes of my workshop script to be able to track them, on a settlement by settlement basis and also to be able, as noted above, to use them in various scripted "quest" events.

 

 

Terrific job, this is just amazing. Thank you Flashy!

 

P.S. I am glad that they finally put you among the "loverslab contributors" ranks, you are the one who deserve it the most.

[tankgod1]

Greetings Friends,

 

Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but this forum is huge.  For some reason, the lust, wear, and infamy widgets no longer update in the upper left (HUD) on the screen, they simply remain at 0.  I also no longer get the messages "You committed a crime, or you had unprotected sex" etc.  When I longpress the MCG key, I can see the statistics sheet, which updates fine.  Everything else seems to work fine.  This problem started when I began a new game.  I have since restarted a new game, uninstalled, and reinstalled the mod, but it doesn't seem to fix the issue.  Has anyone else encountered this?  Thanks in advance.

 

--edit:  I'm now getting post-animation messages, but on-screen counters continue to not update. -

[skyloverlaber]

@Martin56

I have the exact same problem of the other 2 users being stuck after the rape. Fresh character, minimal mods enabled, just out of the vault (literally standing on the platform) I spawn a raider, he rapes me then both actors get stuck with the raider spinning in circles cheering. I waited about 5 minutes.

MCG default settings (rape 1 turn only)

 

 

EDIT: I've been disabling and enabling some animation packs and/or patches and it then the stuck isn't 100% anymore (sometimes it gets stuck, sometimes it doesn't). But I couldn't pinpoint anything.

 

EDIT2: On CSA thread, there's also a user saying he got stuck (so no MCG involved). He said it started to happen after the last update on AAF. Could it be it? cc @Flashy (JoeR)

 

Spoiler

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*CumNWealth_mutant.esp
*Zaz Particles.esp
*FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*MagnoCumGaudio.esp

 

[Kristomani]

On 12/30/2019 at 6:05 PM, Martin56 said:

Make a screenshot of the admin tab of the AAF manager: buttons sequence to show it while you are in game is: home - delete - delete - enter.

If you don't see any reports or errors then reinstall F4SE, AAF and MCG again, it must be an installation problem. 

If you have this problem again after the reinstallation process then disable each one, one at time, of the other sexual mods you have and check if you have that error with MCG and AAF both enabled, I suggest to start disabling Sexual Harassment and the attribute framework first, then the beggar whore mod, but I don't think that can interfere since lots of people are using them together with MCG without technical issues.

 

I also have this problem. Got Fo4 GOTY version and mod trough mo2. I disabled everything except mcg and the requirements, but when I load a save I get §NO_F4SE. 

Edit: Uninstaller everything except saves, install and voila. 

[rabidsquirrel]

I have looked through the FAQ, the Mod guide, and the first 10 pages.  How do you tag multiple people for an orgy?  I will suggest it through the approach dialogue but can't get anyone else tagged for it. 


Edit to update.  Got it figured out.  For those wondering, you need to flirt with someone else and then tag them in the orgy and it will add more.  

[MadGenuis]

So... I actually feel a little bad for asking here, given that it feels like a question that has almost certainly been asked in some permutation before and that I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask. I've been trying to find a solution myself, but... well, yeah, you get what I'm trying to say.

 

Up until a few hours ago, MCG (and AAF, which is the only other culprit in this I can think of) was working pretty much flawlessly. My female character had vaginal sex with Piper on multiple occasions with no issue, and random NPCs also had sex from time to time; I even had a fairly awkward encounter with a couple of raiders going at it until I interrupted them. It was great.

Then a few hours ago, it seems as though MCG out of nowhere decided that it was missing a bunch of animations. Approaching Piper (because she's the one I'm romancing, so she's my test-subject for this) and asking for vaginal, oral or using nearest furniture, regardless of what furniture I try using, results simply in a fade-to-black followed by "Eve (my character's name, obviously) is fucking with Piper," with no animation playing, which from my understanding means that it claims that there are no compatible animations. Repeatedly selecting "random" resulted in the characters hugging, kissing and playing one of several blowjob-animations where the strap-on was once again successfully employed.

 

I didn't change anything; no settings were altered, no mods were installed/uninstalled and the load-order wasn't changed. It just worked, and then it didn't. I've tried reinstalling AAF, various animation packs and the AAF patches, have tried resetting MCG in-game, have tried moving relevant mods back and forth in the load-order, but no luck. I use MO2 and play Fallout 4 GOTY edition. Load-order is in the spoiler (minus a few DLCs, which are above the rest).

 

UPDATE: Just went into the Railroad area and Glory and Desdemona (both female, for reference) decided to have a bit of fun, successfully playing an animation to have sex... so NPCs can still do it, apparently.

UPDATE 2: Piper approached my character in Sanctuary asking for sex, and I responded - as I have done before but keep doing hoping something has changed - by selecting to use furniture and going somewhere else. I went to a nearby bed and used it, and this time an animation actually did play (though it failed to strip my character of anything but her hat). Even more confused now.

UPDATE 3: Went and increased the setting for random NPC-NPC "omo" pairings, with female-female already being 100% on the omo-balance, and have confirmed through observations in the field that female-female sex works. Went back and tried to have sex with Piper again, and got a fade-to-black "Eve is fucking with Piper" message again, no animation.

Spoiler

 

[Guest]

On 1/17/2020 at 10:47 PM, phpones said:

@Martin56

I have the exact same problem of the other 2 users being stuck after the rape. Fresh character, minimal mods enabled, just out of the vault (literally standing on the platform) I spawn a raider, he rapes me then both actors get stuck with the raider spinning in circles cheering. I waited about 5 minutes.

MCG default settings (rape 1 turn only)

 

 

EDIT: I've been disabling and enabling some animation packs and/or patches and it then the stuck isn't 100% anymore (sometimes it gets stuck, sometimes it doesn't). But I couldn't pinpoint anything.

 

EDIT2: On CSA thread, there's also a user saying he got stuck (so no MCG involved). He said it started to happen after the last update on AAF. Could it be it? cc @Flashy (JoeR)

 

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*TortureDevices.esm
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*WashOutThatCum.esl
*Rusty Face Fix.esl
*BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
*LooksMenu.esp
*CBBE.esp
*LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
*The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
*KSHairdos.esp
*MiscHairstyle.esp
*PollutedClimate.esp
*InteriorColorCorrection.esp
*WET.esp
*DocDrumlin.esp
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*CumNWealth_mutant.esp
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*FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*MagnoCumGaudio.esp