Corsayr Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 I stopped at the store today to get a few things, and they had Toilet paper... I didn't really need any, I have enough for like a month or so. But I still bought a pack of 4 rolls... ?
donttouchmethere Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Corsayr said: ut I still bought a pack of 4 rolls... only 4? ? ONLY FOUR! ?
Corsayr Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: only 4? ? ONLY FOUR! ? I could have gotten a cart full, but then I would be like one of "those" people. ?
Corsayr Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9iJaN4HKG8 That video made me want potatoes soooo bad!!! Why you show me uncensored starches!!!! ? Shouldn't you be off trying to get a rabbit to raw dog a bear?? ?
Corsayr Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 PS Fuck the thieves guild still greatest mod ever!! ♥️
MadMansGun Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Corsayr said: Shouldn't you be off trying to get a rabbit to raw dog a bear?? right now i'm making a dick for a yiffy draugr dog man.
Corsayr Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: right now i'm making a dick for a yiffy draugr dog man. God's work... ? (I still want my Giant uses player as strap-on to doggie style Mammoth animation! I know it is impossible but if yiffy draugr dog men can haz a peen... anything can happen.) ?
Kendo 2 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Well, I had a partners meeting today and we've decided to close the fab shop part of the business. Two of the shop Mexicans showed up coughing and sniffling yesterday and we have a standing policy that if you're sick you DO NOT come to work and give it to everyone else. It's bad enough with regular cold and flu but now with COVID-19 it's fucking serious. The 'fuck you I'm sick and I'm gonna work anyway' thing is a problem. The Mexicans just don't fucking care. We decided to close the shop for a week and then do a selective call back on who we want to work. The people critical to the business already know. Anyway, this is an opportunity to get rid of the people we can't otherwise fire. We'll keep them on the pay role but there won't be any work for them. This will be second house cleaning we've done this year. Last time one of the shareholding partners got barred from the property because he kept failing the drug test everyone (including me) has to pass in order to keep our government licenced contracts. I need a break anyway.
SexDwarf2250 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Bazinga said: And what's up with Germany? That number of deaths is ridiculously small. Do we count differently or just test much much more than the rest or what? Germany is doing something like 160,000 tests weekly at this point, IIRC. (Or has the capacity to do that many.) The US CDC has struggled just to do 50,000 total yet as of now. So yeah, the USA also just spent a few years neutering the shit out of the CDC, and specifically the global pandemic response national security council member. They were going to cut it again, but oh ho ho, suddenly they changed their mind for 2021 like 2 days ago and decided it needed a bit more funding. What wisdom! Imagine that! Greedy fucks... https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cuts-programs-responsible-for-fighting-coronavirus-2020-2?utm_source=markets&utm_medium=ingest https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-defends-cuts-cdc-budget-federal-government-hire-doctors-coronavirus-2020-2-1028946602
Bazinga Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said: Well, I had a partners meeting today and we've decided to close the fab shop part of the business. Two of the shop Mexicans showed up coughing and sniffling yesterday and we have a standing policy that if you're sick you DO NOT come to work and give it to everyone else. It's bad enough with regular cold and flu but now with COVID-19 it's fucking serious. The 'fuck you I'm sick and I'm gonna work anyway' thing is a problem. The Mexicans just don't fucking care. We decided to close the shop for a week and then do a selective call back on who we want to work. The people critical to the business already know. Anyway, this is an opportunity to get rid of the people we can't otherwise fire. We'll keep them on the pay role but there won't be any work for them. This will be second house cleaning we've done this year. Last time one of the shareholding partners got barred from the property because he kept failing the drug test everyone (including me) has to pass in order to keep our government licenced contracts. I need a break anyway. At my company they are still keeping the factory floor running. For now at least. There are some new regulations like complete isolation between shifts and one backup shift that stays at home until needed. Myself I'll be doing home office for the next week. Which our IT department barely managed to get running. Will see how it goes but knowing me I'd say that I won't get much work done at home. So far people aren't too stressed out. Don't want to think about what happens if this goes on for a few months though. ... There should be a way to put the whole economy in some sort of stasis. Necessary production and delivery/supply is still provided but noone is trying to actually earn money anymore or change the status quo. Think of it as a sort of emergency communist phase. ^^ Would be cool, but it doesn't seem like such a thing exists.
WhatRules Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 What can I say? Humanity once again proves how pathetic they are. Yes, there is a virus going on. Does it mean we have to panic and buy all the toilet paper in sight? No. But regarding the problem, maybe you can order it online?
27X Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, Bazinga said: At my company they are still keeping the factory floor running. For now at least. There are some new regulations like complete isolation between shifts and one backup shift that stays at home until needed. Myself I'll be doing home office for the next week. Which our IT department barely managed to get running. Will see how it goes but knowing me I'd say that I won't get much work done at home. So far people aren't too stressed out. Don't want to think about what happens if this goes on for a few months though. ... There should be a way to put the whole economy in some sort of stasis. Necessary production and delivery/supply is still provided but noone is trying to actually earn money anymore or change the status quo. Think of it as a sort of emergency communist phase. ^^ Would be cool, but it doesn't seem like such a thing exists. It does in Nordic countries and Portugal has a hybrid system. All you need to do to make it happen is not elect sociopaths or selfish assholes. Pretty simple.
Zor2k13 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Posted March 21, 2020 With all the bars and clubs and everything else closed there are no jobs for servers or dishwashers or bus tables or chefs and every other position that goes along with that. Just think of all the different things that cheap labor (illegals or mexicans whatever you call them) do also construction and fabrication and materials handling and and and... they do EVERYTHING at the bottom of everything. What happens when none of them can work? they leave and go somewhere else. I think this is really why the pres of USA and mexico are trying to seal the border right now, they don't want any of these people to leave the USA ever. I'm thinking that maybe tipping might go away after all this is over or decrease significantly since people will still be worried about money. I was reading some recent articles about how much food people eat at home vs how much they eat away from home like fast food and other places and it seems the split is about 50/50 so now with all this panic it has shifted to 25 or less away from home and mostly at home which doesn't help any form of supply chain for any stores. The only good thing to come out of this virus hysteria is the cartels ALL of them can't get their base chemicals from china and other places to make meth and other drugs they peddle around the world. They also can't get their hands on any counterfeit goods from china to peddle around the world either. I think they will go to work now smuggling all these illegals back into mexico and anywhere else they want to go. Somewhere in the world there is no or very little exposure to the virus so people will try to go there from USA. When a serious crisis hits I have always thought foreigners in general would just bug out after 30 days since they have a home country to go back to. I hate to say it kendo but you can complain about these guys all you want but if they bug out you will be doing all the work yourself soon enough. The average young american can't stop staring at their dam cell phone long enough to work a jeeeeb. Where I work we see these kids come through for orientation and then disappear after their first paycheck. Once they get their new tacky neon ugly shoes or that new same old eyephone they are gone gone gone. They always have that same look on their face... the oh shit I hate working look. Every news media outlet was saying at first this thing was only for a short time but then started talking up support for it to last longer and longer. You can't kill the patient to cure the disease it just doesn't work. In china they are only stopping people with symptoms from going to work such as fever or warm forehead or coughing sneezing etc. There is no society without work there is no life without work since we use money to meet our needs. Money is our unit of account it is our store of value it has to flow and it can only do that regularly from working. We can't wait around for superman to fix everything wrong we have to do things ourselves. I don't think any of this closing down is sustainable for longer that three weeks and once it is over there is no way in hell people would go back to it again if reinfections and new cases popped up later on. That national guard deployment to baltimore maryland is starting to look more and more ominous now. EDIT This thought just occurred to me, most or really ALL of the workers handling ALL the work on the many farms in america are from south of the border. Who is going to grow the food when they go home? That one fat bastard american farmer sitting on his giant gps driven overpriced mega tractor? hell no he will be on the local news crying about going out of business.
Bazinga Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, 27X said: It does in Nordic countries and Portugal has a hybrid system. All you need to do to make it happen is not elect sociopaths or selfish assholes. Pretty simple. Economics are not my area of expertise but I bet that it's not nearly that simple. People and companies still use money to buy and sell goods. They still make losses or wins. Mostly losses now if they producing/providing something not deemed essential during this crisis. Sure, the states and central banks are setting up wage guarantees, cheap loans and rescue funds and stuff like that but I'm still hearing about bankruptcies so it seems like that there are strings attached and it doesn't save everyone. What I meant is a complete halt to anything that has to do with free market economics. You don't earn a dime during this but you also don't lose one (relative to others). Now tell me again that such a thing exists. In a crisis like this it might be needed though. Btw, I'm not sure how they are doing it in the US, last time I heard the price for an ambulance alone was ridiculous. So are many of the people that catched the virus and need medical help going broke or dying because they waited too long, or do the hospitals help for free? Or does the federal government take over the costs? Scratch the last sentence, I think I already know the answer. ^^
27X Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, Bazinga said: Economics are not my area of expertise but I bet that it's not nearly that simple. People and companies still use money to buy and sell goods. They still make losses or wins. Mostly losses now if they producing/providing something not deemed essential during this crisis. Sure, the states and central banks are setting up wage guarantees, cheap loans and rescue funds and stuff like that but I'm still hearing about bankruptcies so it seems like that there are strings attached and it doesn't save everyone. What I meant is a complete halt to anything that has to do with free market economics. You don't earn a dime during this but you also don't lose one (relative to others). Now tell me again that such a thing exists. In a crisis like this it might be needed though. Btw, I'm not sure how they are doing it in the US, last time I heard the price for an ambulance alone was ridiculous. So are many of the people that catched the virus and need medical help going broke or dying because they waited too long, or do the hospitals help for free? Or does the federal government take over the costs? Scratch the last sentence, I think I already know the answer. ^^ The methods aren't simple, of course; but the ethics are real real black and white, and in the case of bespoke Nordic countries it's forty years of policy, economic stability, caching oil and natural reserves and doing responsible shit with an eye to the future gens having stuff to do stuff with via current gens not being selfish assholes. As for such a thing existing, money is literally fabricated, so your imaginary dad is as arbitrary and imaginary as mine. The Soviet Union during WW2 literally just suspended all kinds of shit that heretofore existed as good and services rendered for cash and worth ______ and just handed shit out until they ran into making a guy with the gun and a guy with ammo literally separate things, that might or might not combine during a battle. As for the current system, 40% taxes lets said capitalists states do all the communist heresy they want, and to your last question no there is no way in hell that will ever happen in america because this is literally the land of Fuck You, Got Mine and has been since the Natives crossed the bridge, much less the religious bigots landing at plymouth rock. Funnily enough the only people that landed here and shared and shared alike before they got bored and left were.... vikings. Go figure.
chajapa Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 I've basically given up on toilet paper. I've ordered a couple of "travel bidet" from Amazon. And I have a pack of 50 microfiber cloths that I was intending to use as shop rags, but will now hold in reserve for personal hygiene. So toilet paper, while convenient, is not going to be a problem. I'll get it if I see it, but will not go to multiple places looking for it. Food, on the other hand, is another issue. The meat shelves in the markets here are bare. I had placed an order with a smaller butcher shop and it got canceled because the shop isn't getting product. They will close for 2 weeks and re-evaluate. My next shopping expedition will focus on rice and beans, canned fruits and vegetable (if frozen ones aren't available) and dry soup mixes. It's so bad here right now they've run out of test kits and are basically saying, "if you go out, you should assume you've been exposed". The whole social distancing thing isn't so much to stop the spread as to slow the spread. It's the only way to keep from just totally overwhelming the hospitals as what's happening in Italy right now.
Daedric_Cat Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Zor2k13 said: . Somewhere in the world there is no or very little exposure to the virus so people will try to go there from USA. When a serious crisis hits I have always thought foreigners in general would just bug out after 30 days since they have a home country to go back to. Third world countries are barely touched. Quote I hate to say it kendo but you can complain about these guys all you want but if they bug out you will be doing all the work yourself soon enough. The average young american can't stop staring at their dam cell phone long enough to work a jeeeeb. This thought just occurred to me, most or really ALL of the workers handling ALL the work on the many farms in america are from south of the border. Who is going to grow the food when they go home? That one fat bastard american farmer sitting on his giant gps driven overpriced mega tractor? hell no he will be on the local news crying about going out of business. There's plenty of people to work those jobs, hard working people. You just don't see them. Might go back to college and high school kids doing handy man and lawn maintenance jobs like they used to, especially when the wages aren't depressed by an over supply of workers. Maybe cleaning jobs will be open again. I've tried getting into cleaning jobs. Forget it. If there isn't enough workers to pick fruit and veggies, there's automation. They've got the technology and they should focus on that, instead of trying to replace skilled truckers. Automation will open new fields of skilled jobs to support that technology. Better for the economy. I don't get why people think that letting in third worlders to be exploited as cheap labor is some great act of humanitarianism. It would be better to help them make their own countries decent places to live. Starting by getting rid of the scumbags in our own government (US) who have fucked around messing up Central, South America, and the Middle East. And Africa. Yeah, Hillary Clinton, I'm looking at you. Slavery is now a thriving industry in Libya. Congratufuckinglations, that's some real liberation right there. Our government would be better off fixing the problems within our own country instead of meddling everywhere else on the globe.
Ijakor2 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, Daedric_Cat said: Third world countries are barely touched. Tiicking Timebombs. Imagine Gaza: 1.8 Million People on a tiny Space and no health Infrastructure.
Daedric_Cat Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ijakor2 said: Tiicking Timebombs. Imagine Gaza: 1.8 Million People on a tiny Space and no health Infrastructure. If the borders are closed they have a chance to survive. Corona is a traveller's disease.
Ijakor2 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Daedric_Cat said: If the borders are closed they have a chance to survive. Corona is a traveller's disease. If those people got paniced, eighter by the disease or malnutriton cased by the closed borders, they will run and no closed borders will stop them. THAT IS A TIMEBOMB!
Daedric_Cat Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ijakor2 said: If those people got paniced, eighter by the disease or malnutriton cased by the closed borders, they will run and no closed borders will stop them. THAT IS A TIMEBOMB! Worst case scenario, which, yes, should be taken into account. I'm sure organizations like Doctors without Borders and the CDC have taken that into account. Stuff can be air lifted in. etc. And the vaccine is under way in being tested. They say a year, and there's the logistics of getting the vaccine out to billions of people, the entire world population. But we can' panic dwelling on worst case scenarios and focus on our own end getting our crap straightened out.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 I had been in a few towns over working, back in town and I have talked to 2 people that have gotten documentation that "will" allow them to be on the road. Think we're about to shut shit down here in the states for a few weeks. 2nd person I talked with that had documentation said it looks like 1st week of april. Get your foods and diapers and stuffs. I live in a toxic environment, so close to moving out, hope I get out before potential shutdown,fuck.
KoolHndLuke Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Well, I got sick yesterday (I rarely do btw). Had an appointment this week I couldn't cancel and don't know if its this shit or not, I'm not going to bother getting tested either. Got no tissues and only 2 rolls of tp left. BUT......
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