[AAF] M.C.G. (Extended Social Interactions)

[anghelos92]

REMINDER TO ALL, from an updated INCOMPATIBILE MODS LIST:

 

[LARGE OVERLAPPING FEATURES]

• Sex Attributes - Framework: this mod have features that largely are overlapping MCG statistics and systems, if you use it make sure you disable in one of the two mod the duplicate features. For example you must choose if you want to use MCG wear and tear system or Sex Attributes wear and tear system etc. Note that this is not an hard incompatibility but it would be very weird to have two similar systems that run in parallel without communicating with each other and having different and/or comulative effects on top of each other, so choose what you prefer.

 

[RESPAWN SYSTEM]

Combat Strip Lite: This mod cannot be used alongside MCG Respawn system because it creates irresolubile conflicts. If you use it with MCG make sure you disable the MCG Respawn system; 

 

[NPC INITIATIVE SYSTEM]

• Sexual Harassment: this mod has been recently updated with an npc approach system on the player, similar to MCG Initiative syste. Make sure you disable MCG Initiative system if you use this mod.
• Player Head Tracking: this mod is not compatible with the MCG Npc Initiative System, because it will force all the npc greetings to the player to abort theirself, so you will always see them say to the PC: "I see you're busy..."

 

[Ulfberto]

So i heard we can manually blacklist npcs, but i had no luck finding how to.
I suppose the main MCG hotkey must be used on the desired npc and blacklist in tools options? i dont seem to find any blacklist option there...

[Martin56]

Just now, Ulfbearth said:

So i heard we can manually blacklist npcs, but i had no luck finding how to.
I suppose the main MCG hotkey must be used on the desired npc and blacklist in tools options? i dont seem to find any blacklist option there...

Yes use the main MCG hotkey on an npc, then you will see yhe "tool options" submenu, and there you should find the buttons to blacklist them from approaches and /or random sex.

[Ulfberto]

Just now, Martin56 said:

Yes use the main MCG hotkey on an npc, then you will see yhe "tool options" submenu, and there you should find the buttons to blacklist them from approaches and /or random sex.

hey, thanks for response.
I think i'm missing something cus i cant find it:

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[Martin56]

9 minutes ago, Ulfbearth said:

hey, thanks for response.
I think i'm missing something cus i cant find it:

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First make sure you have the relative system you want to blackilst this actor from enabled, for example if you want to blacklist him from the random sex make sure that the random sex system is enabled! You will find the buttons to enable them at the bottom of the MCG Options hotley menu (long press it while you are not pointing an actor otherwise it will push the actor instead). 

 

If you have them already enabled then it's probably a problem in your setup that we will need to investigate.

[Ulfberto]

Im trying to blacklist him from aproaching my character. Hes a companion but its like a secondary companion so the "allow followers" option doesnt work on him, thats why i wanted to blacklist him. 

Edit: How does the allow followers option work btw? usually those things check for keywords right? if thats the case, i could just add the needed keyword to the Father's plugin myself using fo4edit, so it blocks him too.

[Martin56]

20 minutes ago, Ulfbearth said:

Im trying to blacklist him from aproaching my character. Hes a companion but its like a secondary companion so the "allow followers" option doesnt work on him, thats why i wanted to blacklist him. 

 

Do you have the random sex system enabled too? I am starting to think it could be a mispelled conditional function.

 

Edit: about the follower blacklist I don't remember exactly usually Anghelos checks for the keyword DO_teammate_readyweapon or something like that (it's the vanilla keyword that make your follower draw their weapon when the player does) or if they are currently in the CurrentCompanionFaction.

Btw did you tried on a different, vanilla NPC? Just to see if you have the problem for all npcs or if only for father.

[Ulfberto]

Just now, Martin56 said:

Do you have the random sex system enabled too? I am starting to think it could be a mispelled conditional function

hum no, i can show you my AAF modlist if you wish

 

[Martin56]

8 minutes ago, Ulfbearth said:

hum no, i can show you my AAF modlist if you wish

 

No need thanks, please could you try to temporaly enable the random sex system and check if you can blacklist at that point also for the initiative system? Make sure you have the allow blacklisting toggle enabled in MCM in the random sex system page, it could be possible that Anghelos used the same condition for both system as a mistake

[Ulfberto]

Yeah with random sex enabled it showed up. Thanks ?

 

 

Can i disable random sex after adding him to the blacklist?

[Lacustris]

11 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

The MCG Dialogue that starts with"hey do you have a moment?" is not available for Vanilla companions, including ADA and Codsworth because they use the vanilla "Affinity level system" and because of this adding to the them the "MCG Relationship Level system" would create conflicts and redundant situations. To Romance a vanilla companion you need to follow the vanilla rules but in addition for those companions that cannot be romanced in vanilla you can set them as romanced using the "set as romanced" button in the companion submenu once their vanilla affinity is 1000 or higher. You need the MCM experimental option "Companion Affinity Handling" enabled for this.

 

About the Servitrons assuming always the male position that is because normally in vanilla game only humans and non feral ghouls have a female sex while everything else is considered a male, i.e. even vanilla assaultron are considered males. To risolve this issue you should edit the servitron race in FO4edit and add the "ActorTypeHuman" keyword to it.

 

 

 

You're awesome. Adding ActorTypeHuman didn't appear to fix it on it's own. However adding both ActorTypeHuman and ActorTypeNPC to the Servitron race appears to allow player to choose "Male-Like" or "Female-Like" Animations and both work properly now.

 

Thanks for your help and making this awesome mod Ang!

 

 

 

[Martin56]

18 minutes ago, Ulfbearth said:

Yeah with random sex enabled it showed up. Thanks ?

 

 

Can i disable random sex after adding him to the blacklist?

Yes of course thanks to help us find this, it will be fixed for next version, probably tomorrow 21 november

[DoomGuitar]

A mod called Player Head Tracking is conflicting with your mod. For a while now I have been having problems getting M.C.G. dialogues started. NPCs would just walk up and say "I see you are busy" and then leave. So I decided to do some debugging and I turned off the head tracking in that mods MCM, every NPC approach since then has worked perfectly.

[Martin56]

8 hours ago, DoomGuitar said:

A mod called Player Head Tracking is conflicting with your mod. For a while now I have been having problems getting M.C.G. dialogues started. NPCs would just walk up and say "I see you are busy" and then leave. So I decided to do some debugging and I turned off the head tracking in that mods MCM, every NPC approach since then has worked perfectly.

Thank you for this report, it will be added to the incompatibility list.

[anghelos92]

11 hours ago, Ulfbearth said:

Yeah with random sex enabled it showed up. Thanks ?

 

 

Can i disable random sex after adding him to the blacklist?

Hi, I just found that the button to blacklist from the approach system was not working as intended at all, not only it is displayed only with the random sex enabled but it also doesn't blacklist properly xD, it will be fixed in the next version  sorry for the inconvenience!

 

Edit: it should be fixed in 2.11.06!

[Guest]

On 11/20/2019 at 6:12 AM, anghelos92 said:

• anghelosNudeBodiesCompatibility [FLST:xx2747B1]: You can add here modded skins that should be considered naked for MCG "Naked Harassment" condition to be true for the NPC Initiative approach system calculations, i.e. if you have a mod like "player Unique Body" you should add here that mod Unique naked skin or your character will never be recognized as naked.

I hadn't realized that would be problem! I use the DLC followers version of the unique player, so I downloaded your patch to see how that works and made a version for the ESP UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp (attached here). I think if you renumber your FSLT (now xx2747b1) to fit inside the ESL space (between 800 and FFF), then your patch and those people make for themselves could be ESL or ESL flagged ESPs, which could be nice for a single record plugin. BUT I'm no ESL expert so that might be all kinds of wrong. Personally I just pulled that FLST as an override into my personal merge-patch.

MagnoCumGaudio-UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp

[Martin56]

33 minutes ago, mnbv99 said:

I hadn't realized that would be problem! I use the DLC followers version of the unique player, so I downloaded your patch to see how that works and made a version for the ESP UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp (attached here). I think if you renumber your FSLT (now xx2747b1) to fit inside the ESL space (between 800 and FFF), then your patch and those people make for themselves could be ESL or ESL flagged ESPs, which could be nice for a single record plugin. BUT I'm no ESL expert so that might be all kinds of wrong. Personally I just pulled that FLST as an override into my personal merge-patch.

MagnoCumGaudio-UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp 429 B · 0 downloads

Nice, thank you for your input!

 

Edit: @maddadicusrex You probably already know this, I am writing this just as a reminder for you buddy: the patch that is included now in the download section (" (Required Patch)MCG-Unique Player-Patch.rar" ) is just the same patch that was sent to you in the support topic some time ago so you may want to use this new and discard the old or still stick to the old, they are exactly the same. 

[Operand]

16 hours ago, anghelos92 said:

[NPC INITIATIVE SYSTEM]

• Sexual Harassment: this mod has been recently updated with an npc approach system on the player, similar to MCG Initiative syste. Make sure you disable MCG Initiative system if you use this mod.
• Player Head Tracking: this mod is not compatible with the MCG Npc Initiative System, because it will force all the npc greetings to the player to abort theirself, so you will always see them say to the PC: "I see you're busy..."

Oough... now thanks for that. Didn't check this mod for quite some time. This mean I know the reason for inconsistent "you're busy" stuff. Also meaning that it's probably not my cup of tea (no offense, I'm just already not used to looking at the main character being almost a statue)

 

Where do I get UniqueFemalePlayer.esp? (the thing on Nexus has a standard esp name)? Or is it just an F2 matter? Is it in the comments above or is there a standard way to get it? Wanted to test if it solves now the inconsistencies I have with approach system events triggering.

[maddadicusrex]

28 minutes ago, Martin56 said:

Nice, thank you for your input!

 

Edit: @maddadicusrex You probably already know this, I am writing this just as a reminder for you buddy: the patch that is included now in the download section (" (Required Patch)MCG-Unique Player-Patch.rar" ) is just the same patch that was sent to you privately some time ago so you may want to use this new and discard the old or still stick to the old, they are exactly the same. 

Since you made it special for me, I am keeping the old one. Gave my character plenty of sexual joy these past months..

[maddadicusrex]

6 minutes ago, Dellecross said:

Oough... now thanks for that. Didn't check this mod for quite some time. This mean I know the reason for inconsistent "you're busy" stuff. Also meaning that it's probably not my cup of tea (no offense, I'm just already not used to looking at the main character being almost a statue)

 

Where do I get UniqueFemalePlayer.esp? (the thing on Nexus has a standard esp name)? Or is it just an F2 matter? In the comments above or is there a standard way to get it? Wanted to test if it solves now the inconsistencies I have with approach system events triggering.

Are you using Unique Player? If so, get the patch. Works at unlocking MCG for you..

[anghelos92]

13 minutes ago, Dellecross said:

Oough... now thanks for that. Didn't check this mod for quite some time. This mean I know the reason for inconsistent "you're busy" stuff. Also meaning that it's probably not my cup of tea (no offense, I'm just already not used to looking at the main character being almost a statue)

 

Where do I get UniqueFemalePlayer.esp? (the thing on Nexus has a standard esp name)? Or is it just an F2 matter? In the comments above or is there a standard way to get it? Wanted to test if it solves now the inconsistencies I have with approach system events triggering.

Hi!

About the you're busy stuff did you had the "Player Head Tracking" mod? Because that has been reported as a major cause of the Initiative system aborting, but it is also normal outcome if the player is currently involved in another dialogue or if the PC is technically considered busy by Creation Kit scene standards.

 

What is you current MCG version? So do you use an Unique Player mod? If so can you tell me what mod exactly, because the patch has been built for this mod in particular:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26108

 

but in FO4Edit it can be patched for any other Unique Player mods

[Operand]

7 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

What is you current MCG version? So do you use an Unique Player mod? If so can you tell me what mod exactly, because the patch has been built for this mod in particular:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26108

Latest one (which was just rolled out on the main page). Unique player - aha, I don't use the one you mentioned. It causes issues with the CBP on companions / makes it hard to use custom companions mods like the Hancock one. I use player-only version: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3718

 

7 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

About the you're busy stuff did you had the "Player Head Tracking" mod? Because that has been reported has a major cause of the Initiative system aborting, but it is also normal outcome if the player is currently involved in another dialogue or if the PC is technically considered busy by Creation Kit scene standards.

Yes, I do. I mean, this is the one immersion mod that really hard to give up on. So far none of other dialogue-based LL mods has issues with it ? Maybe add an MCM option to remove check for being busy? With the remark "use on your own risk" of course.

 

Also, question - will the changed timescale affect the events triggering? I do sometimes alter the timescale and I want to be sure it doesn't mess up things for this mod then (nothing extreme like 0.01 scale, usually between 5 and 20)

[maddadicusrex]

2 minutes ago, Dellecross said:

Latest one (which was just rolled out on the main page). Unique player - aha, I don't use the one you mentioned. It causes issues with the CBP on companions. I use player-only version: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3718

 

Yes, I do. I mean, this is the one immersion mod that really hard to give up on. So far none of other dialogue-based LL mods has issues with it ? Maybe add an MCM option to remove check for being busy? With the remark "use on your own risk" of course.

I use the UP and Followers, because it supports Fusion Girl and CBBE. My CBP works fine including followers. I do not use the CBP Config mod. I also do not use the UP mod for my followers. Might be the reason I do not have issues..

[anghelos92]

1 minute ago, Dellecross said:

Latest one (which was just rolled out on the main page). Unique player - aha, I don't use the one you mentioned. It causes issues with the CBP on companions. I use player-only version: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3718

 

Yes, I do. I mean, this is the one immersion mod that really hard to give up on. So far none of other dialogue-bases LL mods has issues with it ? Maybe add an MCM option to remove check for being busy? With the remark "use on your own risk" of course.

For the unique player mod you use I can make you a patch soon, but for the Player Head Tracking mod I feel it would be more difficult to do so because all the checks I built for the NPC Initiative system have been made because they were needed, each one of them, to avoid potential weird situations in gameplay. 

If I may I would suggest you a new mod that have been recently updated, Sexual Harassament. It seems it could do similar things to the MCG Initiative system, maybe you could find it more adaptable to your load order!

[Operand]

7 minutes ago, maddadicusrex said:

I use the UP and Followers, because it supports Fusion Girl and CBBE. My CBP works fine including followers. I do not use the CBP Config mod. I also do not use the UP mod for my followers. Might be the reason I do not have issues..

Yeah, I was playing with CBP config file for physics back in the days when it was first released. Didn't progress much in fixing the issue. Also didn't try it with fusion. Maybe I will sometime revisit the thing. Unique followers would still mess up the followers customization mods though I guess.

 

6 minutes ago, anghelos92 said:

For the unique player mod you use I can make you a patch soon, but for the Player Head Tracking mod I feel it would be more difficult to do so because all the checks I built for the NPC Initiative system have been made because they were needed, each one of them, to avoid potential weird situations in gameplay. 

If I may I would suggest you a new mod that have been recently updated, Sexual Harassament. It seems it could do similar things to the MCG Initiative system, maybe you could find it more adaptable to your load order!

Yes, I use this mod for some other things, approaches aren't that important for me. It was a matter of just getting to the bottom of it. But at least I know that if I want it to work, I'd need to have headtracking disabled.

As for harassment mod - I think I'd wait and see if the attributes mod gets updated. I remember someone (may be even you) mentioned in this thread that attributes is quite an outdated mod and it is indeed so. Some of the stuff it does isn't what I want (like changing the vanilla persuasion/intimidate with no ways to configure that).

 

Thanks for answering!