Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[S4WDU5T]

14 hours ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

DDa and DDx both updated alongside Cursed Loot and DDi.

Check the download pages again.

Did DDa get moved to another page?

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/269-devious-devices-assets/

 

still shows version 3.0e, last updated December 14, 2016

 

When the v4's dropped I uninstalled the old and came to get the new... but found no "new" for Assets and had to put the old back where it was, did I miss something? 

[LazyBoot]

5 minutes ago, S4WDU5T said:

Did DDa get moved to another page?

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/269-devious-devices-assets/

 

still shows version 3.0e, last updated December 14, 2016

 

When the v4's dropped I uninstalled the old and came to get the new... but found no "new" for Assets and had to put the old back where it was, did I miss something? 

I think Comrade Laura misspoke, there's no update for DDa. That's kinda the point, nothing new goes into DDa, so DDa only gets updated if something breaks.

Anything new device goes into DDx, and mechanics go into DDi.

 

^{Disclaimer: This is only my understanding based on comments from the DD dev team.}

[S4WDU5T]

Cool, thanks LazyBoot! I have a tendency to keep making wrong turns on the road to the Promised Land of a stable Skyrim so I try to double-check everything

[Grognakk]

Hey, i was wondering what cum texture you were using for the screenshot? Its the one all the way on the right. Awesome mod by the way

[Laura]

6 hours ago, LazyBoot said:

I think Comrade Laura misspoke, there's no update for DDa. That's kinda the point, nothing new goes into DDa, so DDa only gets updated if something breaks.

Anything new device goes into DDx, and mechanics go into DDi.

 

^{Disclaimer: This is only my understanding based on comments from the DD dev team.}

Yea, I made a mistake.

Sorry.

[Jappa123]

Hmm there is something wrong with text windows when unlocking mittens, so basically i get window that i unlocked mittens and they fall of your hand and after that i get another window that its too difficult and i have wait a bit, then every time i successfully unlocked them i got window that i have to wait 3 hours>2 hours>1 hour and after that i can unlock them.

 

Overall there is nothing wrong with unlocking them,just too many/wrong text windows pops

[GretaVonHochfels]

On 24.12.2017 at 1:44 PM, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

DDa and DDx both updated alongside Cursed Loot and DDi.

Check the download pages again.

Great! Thank you very much

[Nazzzgul666]

1 hour ago, GretaVonHochfels said:

Great! Thank you very much

As mentioned above, comrade Laura was wrong about DDa, only DDx was updated with DDi. Not that you start searching forever.  

[Dojo_dude]

Is the DeviouslyDeviants.esp no longer required? Just asking for completion's sake.

[Gameplayer]

23 minutes ago, Dojo_dude said:

Is the DeviouslyDeviants.esp no longer required? Just asking for completion's sake.

Its not required and its not something that you should have installed as it needs an update with the new system, you can find some more detailed information over the last 3 or 4 pages as those questions have come up.

 

But the short answer is no.

[Veladarius]

27 minutes ago, Dojo_dude said:

Is the DeviouslyDeviants.esp no longer required? Just asking for completion's sake.

 

3 minutes ago, Gameplayer said:

Its not required and its not something that you should have installed as it needs an update with the new system, you can find some more detailed information over the last 3 or 4 pages as those questions have come up.

 

But the short answer is no.

 

If you have it still from older versions of DD it should work but there have been reports of issues with it. I would suggest avoiding Sergius's Experiments for the sake of your own sanity as it is a pain in the ass to complete. If you do have issues you are likely on your own as it is not supported at this time as it needs work. The book should still be available for crafting purposes though it only covers older items. You will need ZAP for it as it uses some idle animations from it.

[Dojo_dude]

Thanks kindly, lots of info there. Will avoid that questline.

[Player80]

Hi, since v4.0 I can't ask anyone to help me out of an armbinder / a yoke. The dialogues "Can you please help me [out of this yoke] ?" don't appear when talking to blacksmiths, NPCs or followers.

Is that intended ? Otherwise I may be able to track the mod causing the issue wih DDi and warn you about it.

[LazyBoot]

38 minutes ago, Player80 said:

Hi, since v4.0 I can't ask anyone to help me out of an armbinder / a yoke. The dialogues "Can you please help me [out of this yoke] ?" don't appear when talking to blacksmiths, NPCs or followers.

Is that intended ? Otherwise I may be able to track the mod causing the issue wih DDi and warn you about it.

Intended, the reason given was that this is a feature of several other mods as well, so it was kind of redundant.

[qawsedrftg765]

In the new DDx and DDi releases is BootSlowdownEffect much slower, in my game I am only seeing 20 magnitude. I think I recall it being substantially slower before.

 

Is there a way to change this value?

[Shion11]

the straitjacket doesn't hide npcs and followers hands along with it  having the standard armbinder pose

 

just found the pictures i took

[El_Duderino]

9 hours ago, qawsedrftg765 said:

BootSlowdownEffect...

Is there a way to change this value?

The only way I could think of would be to go into the CK or Tes5Edit and edit the value in the corresponding spell in the .esm (which is quite easily done though).

[Princessity]

2 hours ago, Shion11 said:

the straitjacket doesn't hide npcs and followers hands along with it  having the standard armbinder pose

Thank you, we'll investigate it.

10 hours ago, qawsedrftg765 said:

In the new DDx and DDi releases is BootSlowdownEffect much slower, in my game I am only seeing 20 magnitude. I think I recall it being substantially slower before.

 

Is there a way to change this value?

With the introduction of hobble dresses and fetter chains, all speed-affecting devices have been rebalanced with their mutual interactions in mind.

On 25/12/2017 at 11:45 AM, Jappa123 said:

Hmm there is something wrong with text windows when unlocking mittens, so basically i get window that i unlocked mittens and they fall of your hand and after that i get another window that its too difficult and i have wait a bit, then every time i successfully unlocked them i got window that i have to wait 3 hours>2 hours>1 hour and after that i can unlock them.

 

Overall there is nothing wrong with unlocking them,just too many/wrong text windows pops

Thank you, we'll investigate it.

On 24/12/2017 at 1:12 PM, jigwigigx said:

Are there any plans for an alternate set of animations (particullarly for the newer devices) as the options provided in the installer all seem to give you the same versions?

Fine if your character is Captain Jack Sparrow and you like all that swaggering about but I don't and I was hoping for the same variety as the last version.

Only our lead animator (Feuertin) was able to cover all the new devices we added in 4.0.0. We have not heard from MaikCG in a long while and cedec0 only came back a few weeks ago but has not expressed willingness to continue AA support for new device types yet. As such, those two optional sets have not been updated and will ue Feuertin animations for the new (elbowbinder, handcuffs, breast yoke, hobble dress) devices.

 

In any case, you get what you get because that's what was made ^^

On 24/12/2017 at 8:42 PM, botticelli said:

I'm haviing problems with the Vaginal/PA and Nipple piercings. Whenever I try to remove these (only one single copy each in the inventory, and they are the last items equipped), I get the message that the harness is preventing removal. There is no harness equipped (invisbile ones checked with showinventory), but each time I try this, the message shows up.

I cannot reproduce it. Could you specify exactly which devices you are using? (Their full names?)

On 23/12/2017 at 10:39 PM, Jappa123 said:

I also have problem with armbinder animation(only on NPC) its only works in cell i equip it on follower/npc, when i left cell there is no animation anymore same with bound girls from DCL(sometimes animation works fine for while but very rarely). Would be cool if we get list of "confirmed" bugs from Kimy to avoid spam. 

 

Unlocking armbinder by sharp items also not working 

On 23/12/2017 at 9:47 PM, Renoside said:

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So this is the problem I've run into. I've read that you need to set the polling NPC count higher than 0 for armbinders to work (I have set it to 7) in the DD MCM menu, but even with that this is what I get. The armbinders that get put on my character work. Most of the time, but if they are some Cursed Loot ones, the same thing happens as in the picture. I used LOOT and FNIS but to no avail.

 

I'm using 4.0 of DDI and DDX, newest version of DDa and v6.2 of Cursed Loot.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

It's not 100% confirmed yet but I suspect the inconsistent behaviour of AA when applied to NPCs may be caused by the scripts initialising before the NPC's 3D model has been fully loaded by the game, resuling in aborting the procedure.

 

It's on my list. I'll investigate it... probablish next year.

 

*mumbles something about NPC support, futility, pain and misery*

[botticelli]

1 hour ago, Princessity said:

I cannot reproduce it. Could you specify exactly which devices you are using? (Their full names?)

 

The have Ids xx014923 (Vaginal/PA Piercing) and xx014925 (jeweled Nipple Piercings) of DDx Mod. It only happens whenever there are equipped as a result of being put in bondage e. g. from Deviously Cursed Loot or Alternate Start. It appears that the shadow item Id varies. When I create the piercing, e.g. xx014923, in the console and equip it, it gets a shadow item xx014922 and all is well (can be unequipped normally). In the other cases it gets a shadow item id from DDa mod (which right now I cannot reproduce) and the message appears. Btw. The message states that due to the harness being worn, the piercing cannot be inserted. (The attempt was to remove, not insert, the piercing.

[jigwigigx]

On 25/12/2017 at 11:45 AM, Jappa123 said:

Hmm there is something wrong with text windows when unlocking mittens, so basically i get window that i unlocked mittens and they fall of your hand and after that i get another window that its too difficult and i have wait a bit, then every time i successfully unlocked them i got window that i have to wait 3 hours>2 hours>1 hour and after that i can unlock them.

 

Overall there is nothing wrong with unlocking them,just too many/wrong text windows pops

I also think there are too many of these text windows, it would be nice if you could just have 1 button to click if you want to try to struggle out out of a restraint.

I want the escape system to be hard but I don't want the control menus to be so intensive that it puts you off wanting to use them to escape. Or is that the general idea too?

[Player80]

15 hours ago, LazyBoot said:

Intended, the reason given was that this is a feature of several other mods as well, so it was kind of redundant.

I've done some research and I couldn't find any other mod doing just that. Cursed Loot doesn't seem to offer this possibility either.

Could you please give me the names of mods offering this feature ?

[GretaVonHochfels]

On 25.12.2017 at 2:48 PM, Nazzzgul666 said:

As mentioned above, comrade Laura was wrong about DDa, only DDx was updated with DDi. Not that you start searching forever.  

Hehe, I updated everything and now I can finally enjoy these straitjackets. Awesome! Thank you!

[LazyBoot]

4 minutes ago, Player80 said:

I've done some research and I couldn't find any other mod doing just that. Cursed Loot doesn't seem to offer this possibility either.

Could you please give me the names of mods offering this feature ?

I don't quite remember the list given at the moment.

But I'm fairly sure cursed loot does offer it, though maybe not something you can ask just any npc, have you tried a blacksmith or shopkeeper?

[Player80]

33 minutes ago, LazyBoot said:

I don't quite remember the list given at the moment.

But I'm fairly sure cursed loot does offer it, though maybe not something you can ask just any npc, have you tried a blacksmith or shopkeeper?

I *sometime* have the dialogue "I have been locked [...], can you help me ?" but only a few NPCs have this option. Even if it shows up, it depends on what I've set in the MCM of Cursed Loot and it can end up worse than before.

What I'm really missing is asking for assistance to any NPC about a yoke or an armbinder. Especially from a follower.

[jigwigigx]

On 24/12/2017 at 1:12 PM, jigwigigx said:

6 hours ago, Princessity said:

Only our lead animator (Feuertin) was able to cover all the new devices we added in 4.0.0. We have not heard from MaikCG in a long while and cedec0 only came back a few weeks ago but has not expressed willingness to continue AA support for new device types yet. As such, those two optional sets have not been updated and will ue Feuertin animations for the new (elbowbinder, handcuffs, breast yoke, hobble dress) devices.

 

In any case, you get what you get because that's what was made ^^

 

Thank you Princessity for the reply. It is indeed a pity that the mod has become so heavy that some of its best contributors have lost the desire to participate in it. The devious mods are the only reason that I continue to play Skyrim after all this time, I really should have quit long ago and I thank all those involved in its creation and upkeep for the endless hours of amusement it has given me over the last 3 years. I remain hopeful that the control menus for the escape system can at least be improved on, 5 message boxes to go through is way too many, guys!