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[27X]

Yeah it's kind of amazing to see regressives screeching about frankfurt and maoism of the day when that shit will get you actively disappeared in the places it originated from and is still actively practiced for real.

[Darkpig]

13 hours ago, GimmeBACON said:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/508492-activists-say-california-city-removed-black-lives-matter-street

 

They're not gonna make the streets a public forum for all ideas... they've essentially stifled freedom of speech to appease sociopaths. The sad part is they think it'll save them when the time comes.

 

https://www.cato.org/publications/survey-reports/poll-62-americans-say-they-have-political-views-theyre-afraid-share

My way or the highway thinking is precisely why political parties are a bad idea. Then again politics has always been the idiotic ramblings of rich bureaucrats.

 

Still the tyranny of the majority is just as dangerous as any rich fuck. I'm pretty sure that is how Socrates died. Hmmm...

 

One does not try to justify the actions of a group as to do so would invoke insanity.

 

That should be a saying.

[GimmeBACON]

6 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

No politics. 

Inherently political... looking at the demographics in areas where homeless congregate largely. The question is, what do we do about it? 100 years ago, these people would be in an asylum (not saying it's good or bad) but with today's liberal sensibilities, there'd be an outcry if these people had there rights taken... faux outrage, considering the same people that'd "fight" for them are the same people who walk right over them.

 

 

[gregathit]

4 hours ago, GimmeBACON said:

Inherently political... looking at the demographics in areas where homeless congregate largely. The question is, what do we do about it? 100 years ago, these people would be in an asylum (not saying it's good or bad) but with today's liberal sensibilities, there'd be an outcry if these people had there rights taken... faux outrage, considering the same people that'd "fight" for them are the same people who walk right over them.

 

Not all of them would.  More than you think would go back to the workforce.

 

[GimmeBACON]

13 hours ago, gregathit said:

Not all of them would.  More than you think would go back to the workforce.

 

I'll watch this later when I have the time... but documentaries are, by their very nature, inherently biased. Although I'll fully acknowledge most people (even those society deems as invalid) want nothing more than to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps.

[GimmeBACON]

17 hours ago, endgameaddic†ion said:

Same with death penalty. It's more concerning the life of the person who murdered several people than those loved ones that are forever in pain until they depart from this world.

I feel it... but I don't think law and order should be based on revenge.

[gregathit]

1 hour ago, GimmeBACON said:

I'll watch this later when I have the time... but documentaries are, by their very nature, inherently biased.

Of course.  People are inherently biased, thus it stands to reason that most things they do will carry that bias.  Most normal folks don't even realize that they are biased.

1 hour ago, GimmeBACON said:

Although I'll fully acknowledge most people (even those society deems as invalid) want nothing more than to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps.

I'd agree.  The vast majority of people would be nothing sort of delighted to discover that they could do something productive and contribute to both their own well being and that of others.  I think that should be the focus.  Let's find ways for them to be productive happy citizens.  For some it will be getting them to stop taking drugs, for others, it will be getting them on a drug that will help regulate their mod swings or some other bodily function that makes them unstable.  Others would have different needs.  The trick would be to finding and helping them on an individual level.  I'd much rather see some of my tax dollars go towards something like this, than just occasionally cleaning up the poop and urine from the streets.

[MadMansGun]

 

[gregathit]

I'm generally not a fan of suing folks out of existence.  However Patreon, Youtube, Twitter and Facebook I think should face this fate.  Hopefully the 230 protection for "so called" platforms are yanked so this can happen.

[Darkpig]

5 hours ago, GimmeBACON said:

I'll watch this later when I have the time... but documentaries are, by their very nature, inherently biased. Although I'll fully acknowledge most people (even those society deems as invalid) want nothing more than to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps.

If they had bootstraps to begin with.

[DoctaSax]

1 hour ago, gregathit said:

I'm generally not a fan of suing folks out of existence.  However Patreon, Youtube, Twitter and Facebook I think should face this fate.  Hopefully the 230 protection for "so called" platforms are yanked so this can happen.

230 protects owners and admins from liability when they want to block or remove some content, as well as from liability for what users of their platform have published on it - considering some of the things I've seen over the years, I don't think that's a bad thing.

[gregathit]

1 minute ago, DoctaSax said:

230 protects owners and admins from liability when they want to block or remove some content, as well as from liability for what users of their platform have published on it - considering some of the things I've seen over the years, I don't think that's a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% for 230 if they are going to be a platform.  

However, youtube, twitter and facepalm are behaving more and more like a publisher.  They should NOT continue to be allowed to have the protections of a platform whilst abusing the shit out of it.  The horrific amount of censorship that they have been engaged in lately (and let's add google to this as they are just as guilty) is actually quite frightening.  I think it would be enough that they were seriously threatened with a loss of the 230 protection for them to straighten out............but it may take its loss and breaking them up to accomplish this.

[gregathit]

14 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

If they had bootstraps to begin with.

Some don't.  That is an inescapable fact.  I'm all for a hand up.  That is just a decent thing to do.  Forgivable loans if certain goals are accomplished.  Copay to get an apartment or house.  Apprenticeships that pay folks to learn.  There are lots of things like this that can aid folks to become self sufficient.  After all, that is the real goal.

 

Hand outs however are nothing less than a form of slavery.  It is a means of control.  I'm dead set against hand outs.

[landess]

1 hour ago, gregathit said:

Hand outs however are nothing less than a form of slavery.  It is a means of control.  I'm dead set against hand outs.

Like the legal system, it would seem the government makes it as uncomfortable as possible to be involved with these systems so as to discourage participation. I get this, although the 'innocent' will also suffer. Still, it's amazing the amount of hoops some will jump through to avoid responsibility.

 

Getting food stamps, welfare, or even unemployment is a less than pleasant experience, while privately run charities seem quite happy to work with 'qualified' recipients - likely to prop up their reputations for better donation opportunities. The entire 'user' situation as to how one gets treated seems based on profit.

 

Quite a few years ago I found myself 'out on the streets' so to speak. Living in an over-priced motel/hotel wasn't really an option. I had found a new apt. to live in but wouldn't be able to move in for about a week. After having a set plan, I asked a few friends for help - with assurances it wouldn't become the nightmare so many read about. This was accomplished by limiting my stay to 3 days per location, keeping myself from being a burden and and unwelcome guest. Many people don't take responsibility or have a plan, just hoping for the best and the sympathy of others.   <If my friends wouldn't have 'helped', sleeping in my car and using truck stop facilities was the backup plan>   It also felt good doing something nice for them in return after getting 're-established'.

[gregathit]

25 minutes ago, landess said:

Getting food stamps, welfare, or even unemployment is a less than pleasant experience, while privately run charities seem quite happy to work with 'qualified' recipients - likely to prop up their reputations for better donation opportunities. The entire 'user' situation as to how one gets treated seems based on profit.

There may be a few charities that have this mindset, however I've never run across them myself.  Many are religious based and to them it is merely part of who they are.  They target those who no one else will help mostly.  I've seen this first hand on many occasions.  One program I saw was a church that partnered with walmart to buy kids shoes for school.  Heck of a thing to do.  Most of those families were so poor that they'd never be able to repay them. 

 

Other charity groups aren't religious based at all, but do similar things.  Masons, Shriners, and other groups that help active service folks, veterans and their families among others.  Again, they don't see any benefit other than knowing that they did something to brighten someone else's day.

25 minutes ago, landess said:

Like the legal system, it would seem the government makes it as uncomfortable as possible to be involved with these systems so as to discourage participation. I get this, although the 'innocent' will also suffer. Still, it's amazing the amount of hoops some will jump through to avoid responsibility.

I think this is a bullshit approach as it clearly doesn't work.  Rather than a bunch of hoop jumping, it should merely be given and tracked.  The point is to get folks back on their feet.  If it becomes clear they are just looking for handouts.....well...sometimes one has to employ tough love.  This is why I think it needs to be at the local level.  Federal, State or even county is just too big to administer this most times (depends on population size).  

25 minutes ago, landess said:

Quite a few years ago I found myself 'out on the streets' so to speak. Living in an over-priced motel/hotel wasn't really an option. I had found a new apt. to live in but wouldn't be able to move in for about a week. After having a set plan, I asked a few friends for help - with assurances it wouldn't become the nightmare so many read about. This was accomplished by limiting my stay to 3 days per location, keeping myself from being a burden and and unwelcome guest. Many people don't take responsibility or have a plan, just hoping for the best and the sympathy of others.   <If my friends wouldn't have 'helped', sleeping in my car and using truck stop facilities was the backup plan>   It also felt good doing something nice for them in return after getting 're-established'.

This right here is the ideal system.  Fall back on family and friends.  Then be prepared to help others at need.  I had to move back in with my folks in my early twenties.  I made some bad decisions and had to eat a little crow and move back in for a year.  I saved up and was able to get back on my feet.  I then helped two different friends who had similar issues get back on their feet later.  Only when this is not available should folks turn to the government.  

[Darkpig]

3 hours ago, gregathit said:

Some don't.  That is an inescapable fact.  I'm all for a hand up.  That is just a decent thing to do.  Forgivable loans if certain goals are accomplished.  Copay to get an apartment or house.  Apprenticeships that pay folks to learn.  There are lots of things like this that can aid folks to become self sufficient.  After all, that is the real goal.

 

Hand outs however are nothing less than a form of slavery.  It is a means of control.  I'm dead set against hand outs.

Now if only the government would stop giving rich folks handouts they don't need. I would say the government should stop being a weenie but since people and society in general love to make things complicated the government continues to be a weenie. For this very reason I don't have all the answers but I am more than happy to call out weenies.

[GimmeBACON]

 

[Darkpig]

6 hours ago, GimmeBACON said:

-Content too obscene for younger viewers-

Whats the punch line or is this a guilty pleasure? Or a porn? Some people get boners from an execution so I won't judge if this is what you're into.

 

Also is that your cat or your child. They have and interesting choice of attire. Is "I'm a Retard" a play by any chance? And by chance is it made by the same guys who wrote South Park?

[steelpanther24]

On 7/31/2020 at 4:02 AM, Darkpig said:

Now if only the government would stop giving rich folks handouts they don't need. I would say the government should stop being a weenie but since people and society in general love to make things complicated the government continues to be a weenie. For this very reason I don't have all the answers but I am more than happy to call out weenies.

 So people and society muck everything up?

Spoiler

 

 

[MrEsturk]

Looking back at all the games I've enjoyed in the past year. They've all been small dev team productions that went straight to Steam's discount bin, or freeware fan games, or mods for DOOM/Heretic/Duke3d, or modded Skyrim or rom hacks that allowed me to enjoy games from my youth with a brand new twist.

 

I find myself looking at the modern AAA gaming industry and thinking: "Wow.... I don't really I need you. At all."

 

Even the stuff from AAA companies that has caught my interest recently has almost exclusively been their side project games.

[FauxFurry]

Watching the leaked George Floyd arrest footage has me thinking about the practice of keeping footage of a criminal incident confidential prior to a trial so as to avoid influencing potential trial jury members before they can even make it to the court house. 

It is a sound practice unto itself but no one could have foreseen that doing so in this case made things much worse than simply having a biased jury as now not only is the jury going to be biased but they will also be filled with a desire for vengeance.

 

There was no cackling hand-wringing villainy on display nor did there seem to be so much as a hint of overt malice held in the hearts of anyone on the scene (that can be seen, anyway), just a traumatized individual once bitten (or shot, as the case was there) whose panicky demeanor prompted an over-reaction to get him to stop struggling that ended in a disaster similar to what he feared. 

 

[GimmeBACON]

1 hour ago, FauxFurry said:

Watching the leaked George Floyd arrest footage has me thinking about the practice of keeping footage of a criminal incident confidential prior to a trial so as to avoid influencing potential trial jury members before they can even make it to the court house. 

It is a sound practice unto itself but no one could have foreseen that doing so in this case made things much worse than simply having a biased jury as now not only is the jury going to be biased but they will also be filled with a desire for vengeance.

 

There was no cackling hand-wringing villainy on display nor did there seem to be so much as a hint of overt malice held in the hearts of anyone on the scene (that can be seen, anyway), just a traumatized individual once bitten (or shot, as the case was there) whose panicky demeanor prompted an over-reaction to get him to stop struggling that ended in a disaster similar to what he feared. 

 

Starting with a drawn gun over a counterfeit $20 was definitely heavy-handed, but, they're definitely overreaching in the charges.

[FauxFurry]

45 minutes ago, GimmeBACON said:

Starting with a drawn gun over a counterfeit $20 was definitely heavy-handed, but, they're definitely overreaching in the charges.

He was a bit slow to show his hands, giving them cause to suspect that he might have a readied firearm concealed out of sight. People do assault (and sometimes kill) officers over some of the pettiest of reasons to avoid being taken in for violating parole.

The officer who began the arrest proceedings did put his weapon away after it was clear that Floyd was unarmed, proper procedure up until that point. 

[gregathit]

7 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

He was a bit slow to show his hands, giving them cause to suspect that he might have a readied firearm concealed out of sight. People do assault (and sometimes kill) officers over some of the pettiest of reasons to avoid being taken in for violating parole.

The officer who began the arrest proceedings did put his weapon away after it was clear that Floyd was unarmed, proper procedure up until that point. 

 

59 minutes ago, GimmeBACON said:

Starting with a drawn gun over a counterfeit $20 was definitely heavy-handed, but, they're definitely overreaching in the charges.

He most definitely was acting shady.  I don't care what color you are, if you act that way, you'll get a gun pulled on you.

 

People rage and scream but the simple fact is that if he had cooperated with the police he'd be alive today.  PERIOD.  HE STARTED what eventually led to his death by FIGHTING. HIM.  I'm sorry he died.  Hell, I'm sorry anyone dies.  But if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.  That is just a fact of life.  If I could give just one bit of advice to everyone (all colors):  "STOP FIGHTING THE POLICE".  You will get your day in court.  Fight like hell then.  Work the system.  Work the jury.  Your chances of being killed or seriously hurt drop to zero that way.

[27X]

10 minutes ago, gregathit said:

But if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

He was slow to react because he knew what was coming. These two people hated each other's guts. His/squad 17 other violations (that we know of) didn't come out of a vacuum. He had no business being a police officer.

 

10 minutes ago, gregathit said:

cooperated with the police he'd be alive today. 

 

Nah. These two had history, and Chavin had a history of not giving a fuck, which is great for four medals of bravery, not so great for busting into a locked room by knob breach  and then immediately firing into the room without taking a risk assessment.

 

In other words, not cop material, period.