Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[jaberwocky]

[Request] Hobble skirt (as in, not a complete dress)

 

I like the thight dress a lot and wonder if it is possible to create a tight skirt as well, one that leaves the top exposed completely. And if possible when using DCL, would not give the message that the dragonborn feels properly dressed. Would such a skirt be a nice addon?

[KeplerZeroFive]

Can someone tell me why I have a nameless item equipped from this mod? It doesn't seem to do anything except prevent me from wearing hoods, specifically the ones from Immersive Armors (I assume that both items take up the same body slot). It doesn't show up in the inventory, but when I'm in the enchanting menu, it shows up as <Missing Name>(3).

The ID of the item is xx040f0c, if it helps.

 

[LazyBoot]

Can someone tell me why I have a nameless item equipped from this mod? It doesn't seem to do anything except prevent me from wearing hoods, specifically the ones from Immersive Armors (I assume that both items take up the same body slot). It doesn't show up in the inventory, but when I'm in the enchanting menu, it shows up as <Missing Name>(3).

The ID of the item is xx040f0c, if it helps.

 

 

 

I'm fairly certain that's the device hider, you can change what slot it uses in the mod menu if it's blocking something.

[Guest joe5678]

Hi Folks,

 

I have a suggestion for your mod: Crafting Books.

 

 

I like the idea that you need to steal a book off of Urag Gro-Shub's desk in order to learn how to make your own apparel.

 

 

The problem is having ALL of the apparel show up in the crafting list at the smithing station all at once. Its kinda cluttered. 

Perhaps have it so that you need to have a crafting book, or books in your inventory for it to show up on the list.

 

Not only can you have more quests to obtain this forbidden knowledge, but reduce the clutter at the crafting stations.

 

Maybe a book for Iron items made at the forge, leather items at the skinner and the conversion potions and dyes at the alchemy station?  A new quest for each? Is Zed still available?

 

I also realize, after poking around in TES5Edit, that this is a lot of editing and a lot of work.

 

Just an idea, great job on the mod.

 

Thanks!

[Jack Wow]

I am getting an issue with the yoke where I lose my hands and they don't return. Any ideas? Using Slaverun. Thanks

 

[Kimy]

[Request] Hobble skirt (as in, not a complete dress)

 

I like the thight dress a lot and wonder if it is possible to create a tight skirt as well, one that leaves the top exposed completely. And if possible when using DCL, would not give the message that the dragonborn feels properly dressed. Would such a skirt be a nice addon?

 

Such a skirt would still need to block the chest slot, as Skyrim doesn't distinguish between top and bottom. Which it's technically possible to equip such a skirt in a slot other that chest armor, the result would still be totally incompatible with pretty much all existing clothing and armor. That's why we decided against it back then.

[Varithina]

 

[Request] Hobble skirt (as in, not a complete dress)

 

I like the thight dress a lot and wonder if it is possible to create a tight skirt as well, one that leaves the top exposed completely. And if possible when using DCL, would not give the message that the dragonborn feels properly dressed. Would such a skirt be a nice addon?

 

Such a skirt would still need to block the chest slot, as Skyrim doesn't distinguish between top and bottom. Which it's technically possible to equip such a skirt in a slot other that chest armor, the result would still be totally incompatible with pretty much all existing clothing and armor. That's why we decided against it back then.

 

 

Transparent texture from the waist upwards maybe?  You would not even need new assets just re-textures for them.

[venom900]

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

[WaxenFigure]

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

[Yuni]

Incompatibility Report:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29643/?

 

Sky Stripper WIP causes crashing with Devious Devices in the following manner:

Sky Stripper removes equipped gear from the player as the player passes health thresholds, when the mod is active.

This completely ignores Devious Devices' lock system somehow, quickly followed by a game crash if multiple items are stripped in a short time.

[Kimy]

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

Incompatibility Report:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29643/?

 

Sky Stripper WIP causes crashing with Devious Devices in the following manner:

Sky Stripper removes equipped gear from the player as the player passes health thresholds, when the mod is active.

This completely ignores Devious Devices' lock system somehow, quickly followed by a game crash if multiple items are stripped in a short time.

 

I will add that to the known incompatibilities list. Thanks!

[kplh]

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

[srayesmanll]

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

 

 

So you're saying that Kimy, one of the main forces behind DDa/DDi is wrong about a mod they had a hand in maintaining?  Strange.  Maybe you have ANOTHER mod that has peeing included that requires DDa/DDi?  That would be the more logical explanation than Kimy being wrong a feature in a mod that Kimy in involved with, don't you think?

[Kimy]

No, I guess what they mean is this piece of code in DDI:

function BeltMenuExcrete()
	libs.DisableControls()
	libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(ZazAPCAO104)
	;debug.notification("You answer the call of nature before cleaning yourself around the edges of the belt as much as possible.")
	libs.Notify("A stream of urine escapes your bladder")
	Utility.Wait(6) 				
	Debug.SendAnimationEvent(libs.PlayerRef, "IdleForceDefaultState")
	;libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(IdlePlayerStop)
	libs.UpdateControls()
EndFunction

It does trigger an idle in ZaZ, but there is no integration to any of the "personal needs" mods. I thought they meant the latter.

[WaxenFigure]

 

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

 

 

So you're saying that Kimy, one of the main forces behind DDa/DDi is wrong about a mod they had a hand in maintaining?  Strange.  Maybe you have ANOTHER mod that has peeing included that requires DDa/DDi?  That would be the more logical explanation than Kimy being wrong a feature in a mod that Kimy in involved with, don't you think?

 

Ok, we've established that this mod doesn't do that. Now does anyone know the mod which adds that so we can properly direct the original questioner?

[kplh]

 

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

 

 

No, I guess what they mean is this piece of code in DDI:

function BeltMenuExcrete()
	libs.DisableControls()
	libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(ZazAPCAO104)
	;debug.notification("You answer the call of nature before cleaning yourself around the edges of the belt as much as possible.")
	libs.Notify("A stream of urine escapes your bladder")
	Utility.Wait(6) 				
	Debug.SendAnimationEvent(libs.PlayerRef, "IdleForceDefaultState")
	;libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(IdlePlayerStop)
	libs.UpdateControls()
EndFunction

It does trigger an idle in ZaZ, but there is no integration to any of the "personal needs" mods. I thought they meant the latter.

 

In my Skyrim, during that animation "When my character pees, she does the animation" yellow stuff does come out I do not use any personal needs mods, I think that's just how that animation is supposed to behave, is it not?

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

 

 

So you're saying that Kimy, one of the main forces behind DDa/DDi is wrong about a mod they had a hand in maintaining?  Strange.  Maybe you have ANOTHER mod that has peeing included that requires DDa/DDi?  That would be the more logical explanation than Kimy being wrong a feature in a mod that Kimy in involved with, don't you think?

 

Ok, we've established that this mod doesn't do that. Now does anyone know the mod which adds that so we can properly direct the original questioner?

 

 

It had the option to urinate while in a belt some time ago but was disabled/removed at some point not that it did anything but play the animation.

[JuliusXX]

 

 

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

 

 

So you're saying that Kimy, one of the main forces behind DDa/DDi is wrong about a mod they had a hand in maintaining?  Strange.  Maybe you have ANOTHER mod that has peeing included that requires DDa/DDi?  That would be the more logical explanation than Kimy being wrong a feature in a mod that Kimy in involved with, don't you think?

 

Ok, we've established that this mod doesn't do that. Now does anyone know the mod which adds that so we can properly direct the original questioner?

 

 

I also have that "Empty your bladder" option but I don't know where it comes from. So out of curiosity I googled it and found this old post. Min answered the first question in post #434 but mentioned nothing about this one. Maybe it's a leftover from an older version?

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

 

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

I don't recall this mod having anything to do with peeing. Are you on the right thread?

 

 

Wrong thread for sure. DD never has and never will implement features involving yellow liquids not called beer.

 

 

DDi has peeing, if you click on a locked belt you get the following options:

[unlock with key] [Force it open] [Empty your bladder] [Masturbate] [Carry on]

 

And that option was there as long as I can remember.

 

 

So you're saying that Kimy, one of the main forces behind DDa/DDi is wrong about a mod they had a hand in maintaining?  Strange.  Maybe you have ANOTHER mod that has peeing included that requires DDa/DDi?  That would be the more logical explanation than Kimy being wrong a feature in a mod that Kimy in involved with, don't you think?

 

Ok, we've established that this mod doesn't do that. Now does anyone know the mod which adds that so we can properly direct the original questioner?

 

 

I also have that "Empty your bladder" option but I don't know where it comes from. So out of curiosity I googled it and found this old post. Min answered the first question in post #434 but mentioned nothing about this one. Maybe it's a leftover from an older version?

 

 

I can say with certainty that it was there early on, I have versions going back to the initial beta testing I did for Min still.

[venom900]

 

When my character pees, she does the animation but nothing comes out, is there another mod for that or was that included in this?

 

 

No, I guess what they mean is this piece of code in DDI:

function BeltMenuExcrete()
	libs.DisableControls()
	libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(ZazAPCAO104)
	;debug.notification("You answer the call of nature before cleaning yourself around the edges of the belt as much as possible.")
	libs.Notify("A stream of urine escapes your bladder")
	Utility.Wait(6) 				
	Debug.SendAnimationEvent(libs.PlayerRef, "IdleForceDefaultState")
	;libs.PlayerRef.PlayIdle(IdlePlayerStop)
	libs.UpdateControls()
EndFunction

It does trigger an idle in ZaZ, but there is no integration to any of the "personal needs" mods. I thought they meant the latter.

 

In my Skyrim, during that animation "When my character pees, she does the animation" yellow stuff does come out I do not use any personal needs mods, I think that's just how that animation is supposed to behave, is it not?

 

 

Yeah, same. I don't use any personal needs mods either.

 

My question has in all honesty been answered yeah, the option to empty bladder was there, but the animation would only play half the time, so sometimes they actually do pee and sometimes they don't. I only asked simply because it bothered me there was an option for me to do something that only seemed to work half the time. Then again,  I've also noticed with some other mods that some of zaz's pack doesn't always trigger correctly or work as intended.

 

It's a trivial thing, but it's pretty cool to see so many responses on it, other topics it's hard to even get one response on something ^^

 

[WaxenFigure]

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It had the option to urinate while in a belt some time ago but was disabled/removed at some point not that it did anything but play the animation.

So the bottom line is that the question is about an ancient version of this mod.

 

Then the answer is, update to the current version and the problem will be fixed (by the peeing option being removed).

[SleepyJim]

I confess to being bemused by the weeing debate that's been going on. I've been using the devious mods for at least a couple of years now and I can never remember "empty your bladder" not being an option when clicking on an equipped belt. I was so convinced I must have missed it being removed that I just started a test game with nothing but the devious mods and their requirements installed (plus LAL) and gave myself a belt. Empty your bladder is still there as of v3.3b of DDi, which is the current up-to-date stable release. Maybe it's been removed from the development version on github, but it's still there on the latest version here on the lab, and always has been in my experience. It's never been linked to any needs type mod or situation, but it's always been there and still is.

 

A couple of reasons a urine stream might not show up, by the way, are slot conflicts and lighting. The actual animation and visual effect come from the Zaz pack, and the fluid effects work by temporarily equipping an item in slot 61 as far as I know. If anything else is using that slot they might not show. And lighting mods can render the effects invisible as well. Trying it indoors and outdoors might produce different results, or changing the lighting overhaul if one is used.

[Nazzzgul666]

Couldn't find it already mentioned: the hardcore mittens option not only drops stuff the player tries to take but also stuff like the dripping fluids from FillHerUp, some cuffs when starting a sexlab animation (from ZaZ, i guess),... could that be changed? I don't know what exactly can be done, if there's a way to see if it's actually the player or a mod that adds stuff, maybe exclude things that are immediatly equipped? Or maybe (as a second option?) only stuff that can't be equipped should be dropped, like keys and food... would make sense, in some way. Even with mittens armors are much easier to pick up than keys. Of course there are rings either, but... just trying to suggest something that can actually be done.

 

And a slider to make it a bit less hardcore would be great, i like the feature in general, but something less than 5 tries in average would be nice. It took me one hour to get a proper key for the mittens from cursed loot and Skyrim just dropped it through the ground after 5 tries. That's a bit more frustrating than prefer.

 

I know i can just disable it, but as mentioned, i like it in general, just some adjustments would be nice imho.

 

PS: and yes, even Kimy can be wrong once in a century. The "empty your bladder" option is included in every DDi version avavable on LL since years. Those fluid effects would be another example of beeing dropped while wearing mittens.

[UnEvenSteven]

 Maybe it's been removed from the development version on github, but it's still there on the latest version here on the lab, and always has been in my experience. It's never been linked to any needs type mod or situation, but it's always been there and still is.

 

 

The "Empty your bladder" option is still there in latest development build of DDi.

 

It should be noted that the option seems to only show for standard belts. Custom belts (like from Cursed Loot and IIRC Captured Dreams) generally don't have that option so some people may see that as evidence the feature was removed from DDi.

 

Honestly the option should probably just be removed, it serves no purpose and is best left to some fetish mod to take care of it.

 

[mangalo]

 

 Maybe it's been removed from the development version on github, but it's still there on the latest version here on the lab, and always has been in my experience. It's never been linked to any needs type mod or situation, but it's always been there and still is.

 

 

The "Empty your bladder" option is still there in latest development build of DDi.

 

It should be noted that the option seems to only show for standard belts. Custom belts (like from Cursed Loot and IIRC Captured Dreams) generally don't have that option so some people may see that as evidence the feature was removed from DDi.

 

Honestly the option should probably just be removed, it serves no purpose and is best left to some fetish mod to take care of it.

 

 

 

I think the mod "Pee and Fart" makes use of it, I understand it's not appealing to everyone but is there anything to gain from removing it ?