MonVert Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, CPU said: The final match was completely unfair" Alduin said the same thing when I smacked his ass. ?
RitualClarity Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 18 hours ago, GrimReaper said: Call me a boring fencesitter but there's a lot of space between a person being jesus or satan. Saying that a person isn't satan doesn't mean you automatically claim that person is jesus or vice versa. Nexus is mostly about money now as is the case with modding in general or at least it's a trend that has gained traction and isn't going anywhere soon. Nexus wants to do the shitty shady thing in pursuit of more profit, yeah. Nexus isn't your friend which is true for any company or community. Interests may intersect here and there but if it's more profitable to throw some under the bus it will happen, people usually cheer when that happens to people they don't like but will get angry when it happens to them. It's nothing personal, just business. I don't understand why people build parasocial relationships with companies or brands and are surprised when this one-sided relationship turns sour. Or, if you prefer the tl;dr in funny maymay-speak: rent free It was just a joke. A bad one but a joke none the less. Following up on what @Kendo 2 stated earlier. However, you might be boring but you are correct. I also don't understand why people are suppressed by what most corporations do (and the relationship that they develop with them isn't healthy IMO either) I don' thave that with Nexus... but I can still be outraged by what is happening and how he is doing things. Hell just read the page where he introduces it as a cynic.. Look for points he makes and try not to see how deep and wrong this is. The words he chooses aren't words that are beneficial Hell even his TL;DR has horrible choices there
LinksSword Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 while i don't think that mods should be removed period if there is no reason too as it really pisses me off when someone does that if it's a well known mod, and is really a dick move to do that to the community, However i do agree its beyond scummy that they can take these same mods without permission from the uploader and simply add it to a mod pack without any kind of consent from the person who put it up there in the first place. Of course with this being a company in short they don't care about ones personal feelings it's about business and how much they can profit on in the end, So to the modders your feelings really don't matter to them unless it affects them financially. I also on a personal note really do not like the idea of "packs", If i am going to plan on using mods i do not want to have to use a pack to get what i want i prefer the more traditional approach of just downloading a single mod at a time. But again in the end it's all about business and financial gain..
RitualClarity Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, LinksSword said: while i don't think that mods should be removed period if there is no reason too as it really pisses me off when someone does that if it's a well known mod, and is really a dick move to do that to the community, However i do agree its beyond scummy that they can take these same mods without permission from the uploader and simply add it to a mod pack without any kind of consent from the person who put it up there in the first place. Of course with this being a company in short they don't care about ones personal feelings it's about business and how much they can profit on in the end, So to the modders your feelings really don't matter to them unless it affects them financially. I also on a personal note really do not like the idea of "packs", If i am going to plan on using mods i do not want to have to use a pack to get what i want i prefer the more traditional approach of just downloading a single mod at a time. But again in the end it's all about business and financial gain.. There are real reasons for a mod to be removed. Legitimate reasons. I'd however, would agree with you on it is crappy that an author removes the mods from anywhere just because he / she / they were having a bad day or someone pissed them off. However, being crappy, isn't IMO a reason for someone to try to take over all the mods without any way of the author removing them.
Zor2k13 Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 The best thing to do is don't make anymore mods. Just sit back and watch as the discord stars and youtubers burn out trying to make money on a bunch of crap. How many slut uniform mods can you make fun of (and get ad money for) on youtube? How many moar call of doody time guns are there to make and only works with soandso's special framework? Get the popcorn and watch them all eat each other since there is no new beth game this time. I don't think the next game will be moddable I think it will play just like press F476. Beth has found a way to make money from modding their own games and they won't stop until every last screaming pinched penny is collected. What if they never make another moddable game again? The only recent moddable games are some car games and arma III and some other stuff. Maybe the time for modding new games is over? Maybe a turning point in time is happening? Nothing lasts forever so we will see. I think the big mods that went wrong were armorsmith extended and worsin's PA mod. Both of these things became extremely complicated for no benefit at all. I still have an old version of AWKCR and worsin's mod running I just put up with the bugs and the incomplete areas since that is better than the new versions with all the mess.
Succuboi Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 I love the little tidbit in there that boils down to "if you don't pay for premium, we hate you and you're a leech" I swear if there was an alternative to the Nexus I wouldn't hesitate to forget it exists forever.
27X Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Wolfstorm321 said: They can't delete files anymore, their database have grown too much. None of this is true or factual. This is why people stop listening to you. They simply don't want to incur the cost of deleting multiple mirrored files. The end.
MonVert Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, Succuboi said: I love the little tidbit in there that boils down to "if you don't pay for premium, we hate you and you're a leech" I swear if there was an alternative to the Nexus I wouldn't hesitate to forget it exists forever. Never going to exist; never going to last long if it does.
Succuboi Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, MonVert said: Never going to exist; never going to last long if it does. I know it wont, but that's concerning because if the Nexus ends up getting so bad you can hardly use it, or have to buy premium to even access mods and don't kid yourself that could happen one day, there wont be any other site to go to, and they know it.
Guest Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 Patreon modders have a mutual respect for YTers who cover their mods because they give exposure to their mods, which in turn leads them to their Patreon site as another potential donor. So I doubt outfit and waifus will stop being made anytime soon.
MonVert Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, Succuboi said: or have to buy premium to even access mods This is never going to happen, unless they want to risk Bethesda going ape shit on their ass.
Guest Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, MonVert said: This is never going to happen, unless they want to risk Bethesda going ape shit on their ass. Would they?
Pamatronic Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, endgame † addiction said: Patreon modders have a mutual respect for YTers who cover their mods because they give exposure to their mods, which in turn leads them to their Patreon site as another potential donor. So I doubt outfit and waifus will stop being made anytime soon. Can´t speak for others, But I would be kinda pissed if i ever saw my stuff in a MxR video. ?
Succuboi Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, MonVert said: This is never going to happen, unless they want to risk Bethesda going ape shit on their ass. What basis would they have for that? Bethesda is Microsoft now, even if it wasn't one company getting pissy over that is no legal grounds for anything, they don't own the mods, the mods aren't being sold just access to the site to download them, they aren't stealing copyrighted content, they absolutely can lock people out for being free users there is no reason they couldn't. also the irony of the mentioning Bethesda who have monetized mods already..from users on the Nexus no less.
MonVert Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Succuboi said: What basis would they have for that? Bethesda is Microsoft now, even if it wasn't one company getting pissy over that is no legal grounds for anything, they don't own the mods, the mods aren't being sold just access to the site to download them, they aren't stealing copyrighted content, they absolutely can lock people out for being free users there is no reason they couldn't. also the irony of the mentioning Bethesda who have monetized mods already..from users on the Nexus no less. The biggest collection of mods; the biggest target of legal proceedings, charging for mods that shouldn't be charged for? Yeah, sorry, but there's going to be serious, legal, fallout if you have to pay to download any mods from the Nexus; the biggest curator of, other people's, mods on the internet. DarkOne ain't gonna risk them fireworks, I guarantee you that. Paying to access the nexus is tantamount to paying for mods, because that's literally all the Nexus is.
R246 Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Who here wants to spank Dark0ne?✋? Not me. Everything about that thieving cunt "defender of the modding community", and Nexus, is smeared in faeces now.
Alessia Wellington Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Who here wants to spank Dark0ne?✋? Count me in. My whip's ready. Spoiler
Darkpig Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, R246 said: Not me. Everything about that thieving cunt "defender of the modding community", and Nexus, is smeared in faeces now. We'll clean him up then. I figured if we're going to torture Dark0ne we might as well have fun with it. Besides I'm saving my pliers for people that hurt children.
Sschoeder Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 1:29 AM, Ernest Lemmingway said: Anybody paying attention knows Nexus is an absolute cesspool and has been for over a decade. The only reason I even still go there is because of the mods. And I imagine it's the same for millions of others. It's just like dealing with any company or government: keep your head down, don't trust or use anything they push, and find ways around what they're doing. Lol I am 1 of those millions... but I don't really pay much attention to it either, I signed up on Nexus 6-7 years ago, posted maybe like 15-16 comments the whole time, I ain't getting involved in any of that shit lol. Just get the mods and go, I got here looking for Netherwork's mods, I don't give a fuck what site it's on, and it's none of my business why Nether left nexus, I'm just enjoying the free mods, thats's all lol
Sschoeder Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 7:33 PM, Reginald_001 said: Post the short demo version on Nexus, get the full version on LoversLab. ❤️ Post pics and videos of the new mods (or new updates), but don't upload the mods ever, could be considered a bitch move, but it's hilarious lmao.
dewayne3478 Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 so heard betheseda might have something to say to nexus. cause apperantly what they want to do. is against it tos. basically it might ugly here soon. i dont trust betheseda. but i think ignoring this might be stupid on their part
spoonsinger Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, dewayne3478 said: so heard betheseda might have something to say to nexus. cause apperantly what they want to do. is against it tos. basically it might ugly here soon. i dont trust betheseda. but i think ignoring this might be stupid on their part Citation? Also you don't have to 'trust' Bethesda as they have very specific terms on mods.
Kendo 2 Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, dewayne3478 said: so heard betheseda might have something to say to nexus. cause apperantly what they want to do. is against it tos. basically it might ugly here soon. i dont trust betheseda. but i think ignoring this might be stupid on their part Well, what Dork0ne is essentially doing is holding Bethesda IP (the esms/esps) behind an implied pay wall. BUT all these modders with Patreon accounts are doing the same thing; soliciting donations for things they don't actually own. Meshes/textures = yes. ESMs/ESPs =no. What would be a real hoot is Bethesda suspending Dork0ne's Bethesda.net account so he can't play the games anymore. They've done it to other people guilty of less.
Mauserl Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, dewayne3478 said: so heard betheseda might have something to say to nexus. cause apperantly what they want to do. is against it tos. basically it might ugly here soon. i dont trust betheseda. but i think ignoring this might be stupid on their part Do you have a source for us to read? Also, if found true, it is?time. 24 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said: Well, what Dork0ne is essentially doing is holding Bethesda IP (the esms/esps) behind an implied pay wall. BUT all these modders with Patreon accounts are doing the same thing; soliciting donations for things they don't actually own. Meshes/textures = yes. ESMs/ESPs =no. What would be a real hoot is Bethesda suspending Dork0ne's Bethesda.net account so he can't play the games anymore. They've done it to other people guilty of less. Courts have already found that crowdfunding campaigns can be considered legaly the same as shop purchases in some cases. Would be a real shame now if they would come to similar conclusions on paywalled Patreon content, wouldn't it? Because if they did those modders would effectifly sell add ons for games (which might or might not be allowed by those game's TOS) Cheers ?
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