For the five users that still think the Nexus is your buddy.

[Shubal]

26 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

 

He's stated as much in the past.  At one time he was on this 'abandoned mod' kick where he was going to claim mods that HE felt were abandoned.  After he got roasted for it and people threatening to pull all their mods off Nerxus he sat down and shut the fuck up like a good little girl.  And lets not forget the mods he did steal when Nerxus was still TESSource and he was a sniveling little high school worm.  The handful of Oblivion mods he had up were never his to begin with.  He STOLE them from modders who were banned.

 

Anyone who doesn't think he's capable of doing that kind of shit again is either a shill or goddamned stupid.

 He has already done this with his "Caretaker" feature.  He is the willing bitch of his beancounters and has completely forgotten the source of his success and believes it is himself and all MA's are his bitches. Pride comes before the fall. 

[RitualClarity]

3 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

actually we already have mods that do things like this, Eg there are some mods out there that quit the game if you have anything with "overpowered" items in it, or quit if you open the console.

 

hell even FNIS has/had a kill switch in it for that "moddrop" thing that showed up a few years ago.

Without unduly messing up your current users base? If that is the case, I can see that being done.

 

Bottom line, for all this to work, it needs to involve the authors who's work is being used. Period. Otherwise, it will be a fight and in the end nobody will win. From talented potential authors saying.. fuck that noise, and not starting, to talented authors not continuing.  Other authors will move their works out of Nexus and mod list (shouldn't ) be able to use them. Causing potential useful and enjoyable mods not to be part of the mods list.

 

Bottom line, you get farther with sugar than vinegar.

[MonVert]

12 minutes ago, Shubal said:

 He has already done this with his "Caretaker" feature.  He is the willing bitch of his beancounters and has completely forgotten the source of his success and believes it is himself and all MA's are his bitches. Pride comes before the fall. 

 

You can cut the conspiracy theory bull already... The Nexus Caretaker account has nothing to do with Darkone, or some other, dark, sinister motive behind it.

[RegretfulTwink]

On 7/3/2021 at 10:33 AM, Alror said:

Your work has not been done for naught. If you feel as though LL might not be the most ideal place to post it for the time being, you could wait a little while to see what goes on on the Nexus (maybe theyll chicken out on this)  before deciding where to upload it. Don't let those pieces of shit make you feel as though youve wasted your time.

 

Some, if not a lot, of my future work will be LL martial, it'll just take some time until I'm able to make the mods for Skyrim that I want to. Some really skimpy stuff, and some new schlongs for SOS are ideas that I have but lack still in currently. The rest will find a home, somewhere on the net.

 

I doubt Nexus will chicken out with this, they seem to be rather balls deep in this idea for the time being. There's talk of a new site, not sure if it'll get off the ground or last but hopes for it are high. I have a few ideas about where to host my mods apart from there, and before this drama happened I was looking to diversify hosting while using Nexus as a central hub. Hopefully it's this new site that'll be that hub. So if I think about it, it just means a moment of instability. A moment that'll be over hopefully in time for me releasing one of the mods I'm currently working.

 

I did lean into this a little too emotionally. So the community I wanted to be a part of is broken. Hopefully the new community is managed way better than the Nexus ever was. The level of sheer incompetence over there is astounding. And then there's the cummunity here, where I can upload NSFW content when I'm finally able to make it. So yeah, time has been wasted, but its a sign to pick up the pace I guess.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

On 7/3/2021 at 10:33 AM, Alror said:

What they've tried to pull off is fucking disgusting and I have no words to express how much disdain I feel towards that Darkdude site creator and everyone else that works that for him that came up with this magnum opus of appropriation. I hope to God he gets fucked over by a lawsuit or pays in some form of another for having had the AUDACITY to try and insult the same people's intelligence that gave life to his website; all while playing the virtue-signalling card and saying that what they do is the best for the community. His disrespect, dishonesty, ingratitude and arrogance deserve  harsh punishment, they really fucking do. He also recently silenced the thread 27X posted for obvious reasons. Big surprise. Bottom lime is trust me, there are many others who are just as pissed as you are.

 

Yeah, as I've said previously I have two different online personas for modding so I'm in a few different online spaces with larger modders and it's just been one big rage circle jerk with this since it started. Although it has died down a little, people are still pissed. It is annoying that this hasn't gotten much coverage with YouTubers. I don't expect a bunch of YouTubes making videos on this to change anything, but it would put some heat on the site. It would also be very, very, vindicating. So basically cathartic and nothing else really.

 

I was active in that thread, and I saw the moment it got locked. It's really insulting that the DorkOne has said nothing about any of this. He just locked it with a "this is going nowhere" message. He can't make his community happy with his current direction for the site, so instead he decide to sick his fingers in his ears. Pretty damn childish for a guy in his mid 30's honestly.

 

On 7/3/2021 at 10:33 AM, Alror said:

May Nexus pay the price for this. Dearly.

 

I hope that this classic shit storm brings down their traffic, and the new site can make it. Because, honestly, all the Nexus really has for an active scene out side of Bethesda titles is Stardew Valley. An adorable little game, but rather niche. They have their own forums to go to if they don't like the Nexus changes.

 

P.S.
I would have replied sooner but I had got my first Covid shot and it kicked my ass a little. Getting my energy back, so it's back to lamenting this dumpster fire and progressing with my modding knowledge. 

[Kendo 2]

4 minutes ago, MonVert said:

You can cut the conspiracy theory bull already... The Nexus Caretaker account has nothing to do with Darkone, or some other, dark, sinister motive behind it.

 

You don't have a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.  That account was started by Buddah and Bben as a front to steal mods from Nerxus and filter them into the StormRaven Library private servers.  How do I know this?  StormRaven himself told me and Buddah confirmed it.  And Dork0ne was aware of it.

[Shubal]

14 minutes ago, MonVert said:

 

You can cut the conspiracy theory bull already... The Nexus Caretaker account has nothing to do with Darkone, or some other, dark, sinister motive behind it.

Who has control of the platform the Caretaker resides on? Last year when Fore retired he said he gave FNIS to the Nexus by way of The Caretaker, what did that mean?  The most important thing here is......does a mod author have final control of his/her work? Mr. Dark says no and if you don't like it GTFO. If you believe in principals your options are very limited. GTFO is the only honorable choice.

[MonVert]

6 minutes ago, Shubal said:

Who has control of the platform the Caretaker resides on? Last year when Fore retired he said he gave FNIS to the Nexus by way of The Caretaker, what did that mean?  The most important thing here is......does a mod author have final control of his/her work? Mr. Dark says no and if you don't like it GTFO. If you believe in principals your options are very limited. GTFO is the only honorable choice.

 

The entire moderation team. It's not just Darkone's personal slave account.

 

20 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

 

You don't have a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.

 

D0rk0ne....WIndow$...heh heh...Faggotry....snark snark...  What were we talking about? BEcause it's pretty hard to figure out your point when everything you post is some sort of derogatory remark, or conspiracy theory.

 

Can this thread be locked already?

 

[Shubal]

3 minutes ago, MonVert said:

 

The entire moderation team. It's not just Darkone's personal slave account.

 

 

D0rk0ne....WIndow$...heh heh...Faggotry....snark snark...  What were we talking about? BEcause it's pretty hard to figure out your point when everything you post is some sort of derogatory remark, or conspiracy theory.

 

Can this thread be locked already?

 

Thread locked? Do you need to go to your safe place?

[27X]

42 minutes ago, MonVert said:

 

The entire moderation team. It's not just Darkone's personal slave account.

 

 

D0rk0ne....WIndow$...heh heh...Faggotry....snark snark...  What were we talking about? BEcause it's pretty hard to figure out your point when everything you post is some sort of derogatory remark, or conspiracy theory.

 

Can this thread be locked already?

 

 

No.

[VeraDra]

12 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

 

Correction/Clarification , they can delete the files without warning. they would just put the files into the Que and when maintenance is being done they would delete them. you are correct on that they will hide the file before being removed. With I believe 7 servers.. it shouldn't be that hard to remove the files in a timely manner. Of course depending on their backup systems these .. hopefully and assumed off line systems are only accessible by Nexus I.T staff... wouldn't be much of a concern as the public users wouldn't be able access these files. These can take more time to clean up. Much more time depending on staff and various other I.T related duties. But the essence of the author's request would be taken care of in a reasonable manner.

This is not "without warning". This is "File is in the queue for deletion". My entire point was, functionally, "file deletions aren't easy", yet some mod authors are getting angry overthe fact that back end management isn't as easy as clicking a button. It's more cost effective to mark the file for deletion and then have the other servers replicate it over and execute on it whenever they have the chance, because forcing shit like a deletion because someone wants it done now. Also, automatic backups happen. It's stupid to just assume a server will not be in the process of creating a backup of the time you issuing the "delete these files" command, potentially while it is in the middle of coping it. Telling the servers "don;t serve this file to new connections" is much easier to do, and runs far lower of a risk of causing issues.

 

12 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

the problem is they have no intention of removing files now.  they are taking the stance if you upload something they hold an mutual license to your work forever. (not sure if you uploaded updated files elsewhere if they would claim those files as well... .)

Did you upload the update files to the nexus? No? Then the nexus doesn't claim distribution of the update files. They do not hold a "mututal license to your work forever", they hold a distributuin license to the files you upload. This is fundamental to the idea of them making your files available. A clause like that exists in functionally every file host.

 

12 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

They offer exposure, they offer many tools that can't be obtained elsewhere. Tools that some authors might wish to use going forward despite this change. Nothing wrong with this. I can see the value in the mod list from what I have read. I have no problem with this change personally... However, my problem is with them doing it to the already uploaded files claiming in 1 month it will be final. Some don't log in a regular basis. There should be a different process. Legacy mods, are automatic until officially requested to be removed. New mods are automatically included with the TOS that is signed in.  A simple compromise. It respects the author's work and establishes the future path that Nexus has decided to go on.

This has been in the TOS since November 2016 at the very least. You really should pay some attention to your email, or in the event this wasn't emailed to anyone who had posted a mod, they are not likely to care as much. An email isn't even required, as this is not a TOS change either, as again, it;'s been in effect for about 4.5 years now.

12 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

Doing what they are doing, is just bad Optics. There are many ways to introduce various changes that would upset many authors and users in a way that at least looks fair and reasonable. This just goes to show you that 1) they don't understand what they are doing and how to manage their IP or 2) they don't give a fuck and what we are seeing is exactly what they intend and they don't give a fuck otherwise. they are going to shove this down our throats in very much a manner that Bethesda has done. 

 

thinking of what has been going on, the Mods list gaining in popularity, etc. etc.  In hindsight, makes me think they had this planned for quite some time. Perhaps even as early on as early versions of Vortex.  If so, that is even worse. Instead of letting people get a nice heads up of upcoming changes, they wait to shove it down people throats.  Meaning, they didn't want a mass exodus from the site before they were able to secure all the mods

No matter how they announced it, the usual suspects would have caused a bit shitstir over it. Announced it and told people there was an opt-out and you could still delete files? Bitch it's not opt-in. Opt-in and no deletion? Bitch you couldn't delete mods. Opt-in, and deletion? Bitch it was happening.

There is no winning with people who want to be mad at someone they see as the enemy.

Since 2019. they announced they wanted to do this since 2019. They did mention they were planning to talk with mod authors and software devs about this. I have no doubt they talked to some bigger ones, and they gave at least some input.

4 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

the only thing I can see if if they wrote a script that made their mod not work with x,y, z mods but then they'd also be short changing their users of the mod.

That would be the entire point of doing so. It's petty bullshit that serves no function, and that an end user may not be aware of. An example of this is the Kurin race for Rimworld. Mod author hated RimJobWorld, so would literally break their own mod just to spite users of it.

 

54 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

 

You don't have a fucking clue as to what you're talking about.  That account was started by Buddah and Bben as a front to steal mods from Nerxus and filter them into the StormRaven Library private servers.  How do I know this?  StormRaven himself told me and Buddah confirmed it.  And Dork0ne was aware of it.

Gonna need a citation on that.
Also, how does "let me give this project I have no desire in continuing supporting or developing over to this account who's express purpose is to keep files available in the event a mod author no longer wishes to continue supporting a mod or tool, who also wishes to delete the associated account" translate to (functionally), "they are doing a hostile takeover of abandomware"?

33 minutes ago, Shubal said:

Thread locked? Do you need to go to your safe place?

At this point, it's going in circles. Citations to relevant places are made on occasion, but they get hand-waved away as if they don't even exist or are not relevant. Doesn't help that this thread has basically become a hotspot for conspiracy theories, like that for some reason DarkOne is bascially evil and everything they do is driven by money because storage, bandwidth, staff, rent & utilities, software licences, etc never go up in price (they do), or are free (they are not).

[Kendo 2]

1 hour ago, VeraDra said:

Gonna need a citation on that.

 

No, you don't.  You're a nobody shilling for a millionaire.

 

EDIT: I ?  Dark0ne!  Get a tshirt made.

[悲しい少王女]

3 hours ago, MonVert said:

 

This sounds about as plausible as Ashal trying to turn everyone on LL into Lesbians.

count me in

[EmmaJ35]

Turning everyone into lesbians? Interesting.

[RegretfulTwink]

4 minutes ago, EmmaJ35 said:

Turning everyone into lesbians? Interesting.

 

Not the gay content I'm after, but it'll do.

[RegretfulTwink]

On 7/4/2021 at 8:40 PM, 27X said:

 

Nope. This has been coming for years. Nexus staff are not the good guys and they never have been.

 

Protip: If someone has to loudly proclaim what good and nice people they are every year after pulling sketchy controlling bullshit, they aren't actually good guys.

 

Yeah, that is always a massive red flag. Online or IRL.  

[Darkpig]

3 hours ago, MonVert said:

 

This sounds about as plausible as Ashal trying to turn everyone on LL into Lesbians.

Not much of a change really:

[EmmaJ35]

Sometimes I question if I should even call myself a lesbian. I guess it’s true but idk. Yay for being born with something I didn’t want.

[spoonsinger]

7 minutes ago, EmmaJ35 said:

Sometimes I question if I should even call myself a lesbian. I guess it’s true but idk. Yay for being born with something I didn’t want.

 

I suspect I could identify as a lesbian and gain access to the women's changing room of a Californian spa under that premise. But the laughing would be somewhat off putting. ?

[SmedleyDButler]

45 minutes ago, RegretfulTwink said:

 

Yeah, that is always a massive red flag. Online or IRL.  

 

This is what I like to refer to as the "Restaurant with a big "GOOD FOOD!" sign" principle.

[RegretfulTwink]

8 minutes ago, SmedleyDButler said:

 

This is what I like to refer to as the "Restaurant with a big "GOOD FOOD!" sign" principle.

 

Or that one restaurant that's been open for years but you never see a Health and Safety grade, only for them to get a banner excitedly showing they past... with a C.

[Pamatronic]

2 hours ago, VeraDra said:

Gonna need a citation on that.

Sure as hell would be interested in those as well,

But at this point, expecting something usefull from someone who's comment history in this topic is an unbroken String of conspiracy theorys, lies, and insults, is a bit delusional.

[Reginald_001]

On 7/6/2021 at 9:14 PM, IA.Echo.Hotel said:

While I can understand the Modders' frustration with Nexus from a "pulling our mods is literally our only point of leverage over how the site is run" perspective I cannot begin to describe the absolute contempt I hold for modders who nuke their files and leave one of the two types of default cop-out messages, those being "Got into a fight on a forum so fuck you all" and "I just smoked some bad weed and am deleting everything in a fit of paranoia about my future" that's 95% of all the self deletions on Nexus and it's fucking annoying and disruptive to the community as a whole.

Lack of mods if your complaint? Cool, go make some and release them on Nexus.

[Kendo 2]

18 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

 

Sure as hell would be interested in those as well,

But at this point, expecting something usefull from someone who's comment history in this topic is an unbroken String of conspiracy theorys, lies, and insults, is a bit delusional.

 

That's rich. ?

 

EDIT: And I just looked at what the three shills posting in this thread have actually contributed here...and that's JACK and SHIT.  I get more downloads from one mod in a week than the three of them combined with all of their mods in totality.  In other words...they're scrubs with zero/zed/nada credibility or stroke.

[VeraDra]

3 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

 

No, you don't.  You're a nobody shilling for a millionaire.

 

EDIT: I ?  Dark0ne!  Get a tshirt made.

Then, by default, I'm at liberty to discard anything you've said.

1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said:

 

That's rich. ?

 

EDIT: And I just looked at what the three shills posting in this thread have actually contributed here...and that's JACK and SHIT.  I get more downloads from one mod in a week than the three of them combined with all of their mods in totality.  In other words...they're scrubs with zero/zed/nada credibility or stroke.

The fact you're resorting to insults and bragging basically proves you're talking out your ass.

[Guest]

Guys, moderate the tones.

If you wanna stay on topic, fine.

 

If you wanna just to insult people (including Nexus staff), find another site.