27X Posted July 12, 2021 Author Posted July 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: Mod lists will curb both the influence of gallery modders and (real) mod stealing in Patreon. No it won't. Literally every post you've made in this thread has been fabricated. There is also no them, there is no they. No one has said in this thread to remove anything. You either need to provide actual examples of everything you claim pro and con or stop gaslighting with completely fabricated vague ass buzzwords. Considering Bakafactory and Clonereal and Vuk still have open accounts on the Nexus, your premise of curbed taken content is also utterly horsehsit as well.
MonVert Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, 27X said: Bakafactory and Clonereal and Vuk Baka also has a patreon, and puts most of his stuff there, or on LL. Vuk...has nothing on either Skyrim page? and neither does Clonereal I don't know what "having an open Nexus account" really proves, honestly. Since it just means you aren't completely inactive, and still visit the site. Perhaps, you; too, should cut it out with these "Vague ass, gaslighting; horseshit, buzzwords"?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, 27X said: You either need to provide actual examples of everything you claim pro and con or stop gaslighting with completely fabricated vague ass buzzwords. You don't have any right to tell me what I should do. I'm not going to provide you anything. Deal with it.
Pamatronic Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfstorm321 said: About the haters in this thread Thats still "Divas" for you ?
Pamatronic Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfstorm321 said: You don't have any right to tell me what I should do. I'm not going to provide you anything. Deal with it. Yeah seriously! We are all free to make completely Baseless claims. Actually backing them up is for pussies! Fondling other peoples shrubs should also be legal btw.
Gukahn Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfstorm321 said: You don't have any right to tell me what I should do. I'm not going to provide you anything. Deal with it. And you don't have any right to call every single one of us who doesn't share your opinion Hater and what not else. We don't Hate, we just don't agree with you. Simple as that. 2 hours ago, Wolfstorm321 said: I noticed the only thing that counts here is the like button, instead of overall contribution Yeah right.. i got 90% of my postings on here cause i was trying to help. Same as for many others. Just because you got "ghosted" doesn't mean it was intentional. I asked 2 Times for something, 2 times i got no answer for it.. Following your logic.. Ya all are haters! Gimme my freaking answer right now!.. Sounds.. Like a diva ?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Gukahn said: And you don't have any right to call every single one of us who doesn't share your opinion Hater and what not else. We don't Hate, we just don't agree with you. Simple as that. Not when you guys do selective reading and distort every word we put here. Also I was just comparing the two platforms, since you are practically calling those in support of mod lists "Nexus cultists", when the Nexus had a position contrary to mod lists some time ago. I never saw anyone attacking WJ or mod lists here before it, but now that the Nexus is going for something similar, all of a sudden mod lists have become the worst nightmare for the modding scene. Only hate can cause this, as you become the antagonist for anything the hated subject supports, changing your opinion according to it. Rent free.
Battle64 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Nameless God said: Who needs who here, because let me assure you, and everyone here, you aren't deserved anything, you are given. What do you mean, "you are not deserving"? What kind of narcissist, arrogant, extreme entitlement are you spouting? You should only be so lucky as to be able to create amazing mods for a game you love and be able to share it with people. You should be happy people even give your creations the time a day. Not spit in peoples faces...
Gukahn Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Wolfstorm321 said: Not when you guys do selective reading and distort every word we put here. Also I was just comparing the two platforms, since you are practically calling those in support of mod lists "Nexus cultists", when the Nexus had a position contrary to mod lists some time ago. I never saw anyone attacking WJ or mod lists here before it, but now that the Nexus is going for something similar, all of a sudden mod lists have become the worst nightmare for the modding scene. Only hate can cause this, as you become the antagonist for anything the hated subject supports, changing your opinion according to it. Rent free. The reason most of us are against it are not the Modpacks but Nexus decision to take the Authors right away to delete their Work completely... Let's call your unwillingness to understand that.. Selective reading?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gukahn said: The reason most of us are against it are not the Modpacks but Nexus decision to take the Authors right away to delete their Work completely... Let's call your unwillingness to understand that.. Selective reading? It is not, because you are well aware deleting mods will break their mod lists. And the Nexus gave you up to August to remove all your files and opt-out of it. If you hate the Nexus so much, why do you host content there? I showed other options. Why don't you host in these other sites, or only here? Also, why people who choose to keep their files in the Nexus are following a "religion"? I have freedom to host my files wherever I want, this does not mean I'm a "cultist" for the hosting platform. It is insane how much your hate is distorting your judgment. You are free to host wherever you want, or not host at all. Nobody is forcing you to let your files in the Nexus.
Tlam99 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: And the Nexus gave you up to August to remove all your No, wrong, they keep it forever, the files will be archived. That's the point. We are not given any option. We got robbed our rights on our creations.
Gukahn Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfstorm321 said: It is not, because you are well aware deleting mods will break their mod lists. And the Nexus gave you up to August to remove all your files and opt-out of it. Yes i am aware of that and i don't have problems with it. Really, i don't see any reason why it should be a problem. If it breaks, fix it. If you get permission for hosting it on another server for modpacks so you don't have to fix it, do it. i couldn't give zero fucks. If you decide do keep uploading to it, i don't care, your choice not mine. But saying we are all hating nexus for not agreeing with them, saying I called it a Religion for following nexus, I called ya a cultist? I didn't do any of it. And MY Judgement is not made out of pure hate. It's made out of my own reasoning and that is: Holding the intellectual property of People hostage just because they can and are to lazy to ask for permission is wrong. there where a ton of other ways to go about the implementation of modpacks. They grabed in the biggest pile of shit and took the smelliest way out and the one Month Time Limit.. I could wipe my ass with this one. It is Wrong. Just because it suits you doesn't make it right Sheeeh, your selective reading is top notch.
pinky6225 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Battle64 said: What do you mean, "you are not deserving"? What kind of narcissist, arrogant, extreme entitlement are you spouting? You should only be so lucky as to be able to create amazing mods for a game you love and be able to share it with people. You should be happy people even give your creations the time a day. Not spit in peoples faces... Sorry your saying that a mod author is lucky that random person decides to download there mod and use it? One of the common themes i saw on the long nexus post comments section was authors saying they are lucky for someone to even come back and endorse a mod they were allowed to download for free but now the actual download itself is what they are lucky to have?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, T-lam said: No, wrong, they keep it forever, the files will be archived. That's the point. We are not given any option. We got robbed our rights on our creations. Right now the archivation is being used as a temporary procedure before permanent deletion, because they have issues in their database. So the idea is that they archive the files first, and delete it later. Now, if you do see your mod appearing in Collections after August (that is, accessed through the API), you can issue a DMCA against the Nexus. They are a company and will have to answer to it. But at this moment, it is just speculation they are not going to delete it. Pure drama. And like I said, if people here hate the Nexus, they should never have hosted their files there to begin with. 24 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Sheeeh, your selective reading is top notch. I'm using generalization, not selective reading.
pinky6225 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: Right now the archivation is being used as a temporary procedure before permanent deletion, because they have issues in their database. So the idea is that they archive the files first, and delete it later. Now, if you do see your mod appearing in Collections after August (that is, accessed through the API), you can issue a DMCA against the Nexus. They are a company and will have to answer to it. But at this moment, it is just speculation they are not going to delete it. Pure drama. And like I said, if people here hate the Nexus, they should never have hosted their files there to being with. I'm using generalization, not selective reading. Other than prolly Kendo 2 who said pre-this decision they hated nexus?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Battle64 said: Why the hostility over this? Does pointing out what some mod users think when it comes to how some Nexus content creators act, upset you this much? Maybe you are part of the problem that those few voiced about? What I said isn't really hostility, I pointed out the difference between you and me. You are the mod user, I am a mod author. You have no ownership, I do, that is what I am pointing out. Again, you are the one crying about removal of mods while saying what Nexus is doing is good because it disallows removal from a busted system. Maybe you should learn to mod?
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, pinky6225 said: Sorry your saying that a mod author is lucky that random person decides to download there mod and use it? One of the common themes i saw on the long nexus post comments section was authors saying they are lucky for someone to even come back and endorse a mod they were allowed to download for free but now the actual download itself is what they are lucky to have? Endorsements are a useless metric. I've found many good mods which had low endorsements in the Nexus, and use them to this day. Some of these are mandatory in every playthrough. Whereas some mods with high endorsements, praised by youtubers and the "community", had broken my game several times, with bad scripting. And I can't even tell people, else I'm censored by the hype wave.
Tlam99 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 Now I understand why it's still possible to have childs working in 3rd world, have their families living worse than pigs. Produce as cheap as possible for the shining first world, maximize profit on the back of childs, better buy a new piece of clothing than washing it, because it's cheaper. "make robbery legal again !" Erm, is it illegal ? Oh, I have a bad habit, sorry for that. I don't trust people they robbed me anymore. Really sorry for that.
MonVert Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: Endorsements are a useless metric. I've found many good mods which had low endorsements in the Nexus, and use them to this day. Some of these are mandatory in every playthrough. Whereas some mods with high endorsements, praised by youtubers and the "community", had broken my game several times, with bad scripting. And I can't even tell people, else I'm censored by the hype wave. Have I told you how amazing Immersive Armours is? ? 43 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: you can issue a DMCA against the Nexus. Someone already tried to do that, and got banned from the Nexus. Suffice to say, I would be surprised if anything actually happens after the deadline ends. Modders aren't known for actually seeking legal recourse. They rather just prance around like ballerinas before swan dancing into your face, and off the stage.
pinky6225 Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: Endorsements are a useless metric. I've found many good mods which had low endorsements in the Nexus, and use them to this day. Some of these are mandatory in every playthrough. Whereas some mods with high endorsements, praised by youtubers and the "community", had broken my game several times, with bad scripting. And I can't even tell people, else I'm censored by the hype wave. Your now not being negative about nexus are you? considering your other posts one might think you've fallen into the hater camp
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, pinky6225 said: Your now not being negative about nexus are you? considering your other posts one might think you've fallen into the hater camp Not really. Endorsements are also used here (the like button) and in Reddit (as upvote/downvote). I dont hate the Nexus. And I dont hate gallery modders as well. They are useful.
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, MonVert said: Have I told you how amazing Immersive Armours is? ? Someone already tried to do that, and got banned from the Nexus. Suffice to say, I would be surprised if anything actually happens after the deadline ends. Modders aren't known for actually seeking legal recourse. They rather just prance around like ballerinas before swan dancing into your face, and off the stage. They need to open a collective complaint with Bethesda, because Bethesda holds the copyright. These rights are only delegated to mod authors. It need to be collective. A individual will not be able to do it. Corporations don't listen to individuals, but they listen to crowds. I don't have a idea how to do it, though. But then, the most vocal mod authors could consult with a lawyer on how to proceed.
Pamatronic Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said: And I dont hate gallery modders as well. They are useful. Ah , NOW we are useful? Can you make up your mind already?
Pamatronic Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, MonVert said: Modders aren't known for actually seeking legal recourse. They rather just prance around like ballerinas before swan dancing into your face, and off the stage. People in General are known to shy from Legal Battles with companies with a huge fuck you monetary advantage. Would be kinda retarded to waste thousands of Bucks on Lawyers just to get one of your mods removed, now wouldn't it?
Pamatronic Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfstorm321 said: Why should I? I'm having fun with this discussion. I see, nevermind then.
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