devious devices Devious Lore

[Tempest321]

Does this work with the special edition?

[firepunch1]

Would it be possible to use this mod without making use of the new struggle mini-game and instead keep using the old timer-based system? Big fan of most features in the description but my current setup relies a little on the old system for some functionality, and judging from the screenshots of the MCM on this page I'm not seeing any way to disable the new struggle mini-game. 

 

"you can select lockpicks or standard restraint/chastity/piercing keys in your inventory to start the minigame. Or you can use a hotkey..."

Does this excerpt from the description mean that it would be possible to just never trigger the new system? Since you can click on the device itself to trigger an escape attempt with the old system, i.e., not your lockpick(s) and/or keys, which would trigger the new system. I'm assuming this means that you can simpy keep clicking the devices to utilize the old system even with this mod installed?

[neghthraw]

22 hours ago, firepunch1 said:

"you can select lockpicks or standard restraint/chastity/piercing keys in your inventory to start the minigame. Or you can use a hotkey..."

Does this excerpt from the description mean that it would be possible to just never trigger the new system? Since you can click on the device itself to trigger an escape attempt with the old system, i.e., not your lockpick(s) and/or keys, which would trigger the new system. I'm assuming this means that you can simpy keep clicking the devices to utilize the old system even with this mod installed?

Yes, you can still use the default system of DD. The escape system of Devious Lore is an addition, not a replacement.

[Xuvish]

In the Loot section, you have a feature for self-bondage options.

 

Min Self-Bondage Arousal = the minimum arousal you need to be guaranteed to be bound when finding devices.

Max Self-Bondage Arousal = The arousal you need to be guaranteed to be bound when finding devices.

 

Questions:

 

#1  If you set the min arousal to 1 and the max arousal to 2, does that mean you will be guaranteed to be bound when finding devices if your arousal is above 3?

 

#2:  What is the trigger when finding devices?

       a.  Does it use the Deviously Cursed Loot triggers that you configure in the MCM menu?

       b.  Is there a separate trigger in this mod such as when looting off of dead bodies, opening chests, doors, etc?

[CynicalCore]

What does the patches "Strugle idles Patch 2.0",  "Lore Patch 2.0" and "KS Hair Patch"?

 

can i use them together, cos the patchnotes/changelog says, i should only use one.

[firepunch1]

9 hours ago, CynicalCore said:

What does the patches "Strugle idles Patch 2.0",  "Lore Patch 2.0" and "KS Hair Patch"?

 

can i use them together, cos the patchnotes/changelog says, i should only use one.

The KS Hair Patch can be used together with either, but only use one out of the "Struggle idles" and "Lore" patches.

 

• The Struggle idles patch adds, well, struggle idles for all devices up to DDi and DDx 4.3, except for corsets and petsuits. It also fixes some ground models.
• The Lore patch includes all of the changes in the Struggle idles patch, but additionally removes some device descriptions, renames devices for consistency, makes them enchantable and includes other minor fixes for the base Devious Devices mods

[CynicalCore]

2 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

The KS Hair Patch can be used together with either, but only use one out of the "Struggle idles" and "Lore" patches.

 

• The Struggle idles patch adds, well, struggle idles for all devices up to DDi and DDx 4.3, except for corsets and petsuits. It also fixes some ground models.
• The Lore patch includes all of the changes in the Struggle idles patch, but additionally removes some device descriptions, renames devices for consistency, makes them enchantable and includes other minor fixes for the base Devious Devices mods

Thank you, helped me a lot.

[Baltasarr80]

Are there plans to further expand on the stories around the Devious Allies/Lore Mongers?

[AGFeng]

I feel bad that basically all of my LL posts to date have been asking for troubleshooting help
Recently I've been running into CTD issues and I've *mostly* traced the issue back to the loremongers, it seems. Either upon speaking to an innkeeper and the dialog finishing, I'll see a CTD when it tries to place their quest marker. Or if the loremonger in question is in town and it successfully generates their quest marker, I'll step out of the inn and get about a second or two of loading before CTD. I'm 95% stable outside of these instances (save for the loading game issue that I can't seem to fix, but that's older than my devious lore install). Has anyone else had these issues or have an idea what might be causing them?
I recall posting papyrus logs is often a help for things like this from what I've seen, but I've never actually done it and don't have a good idea as to how I'd generate one to copy and post.

[Eisenkocher]

I have to say - I really like this mod. 

But is there any reason why it removes all item descriptions from devious devices? 

[tuxagent7]

45 minutes ago, Eisenkocher said:

I have to say - I really like this mod. 

But is there any reason why it removes all item descriptions from devious devices? 

 

Probably because you installed the Lore patch also

[Eisenkocher]

On 1/11/2021 at 3:49 PM, tuxagent7 said:

 

Probably because you installed the Lore patch also

 

 

Now I feel stupid

[Lupine00]

Now there is this: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/15646-devious-devices-escape-overhaul/

But it's not entirely finished, and it's another mod to add. It has no way to cut devices, which seems odd for many device types and ignores the old mod for cutting off devices that was a classic DD feature.

 

However, the lock-picking mechanic is more obvious, and maybe better than lock picking escapes in Lore, which are the same as every other escape.

 

I'd love to see Lore gain the option to do locking picking escapes by actual lock picking, with a single chance before reset, and the existing difficulties and chances of a jammed lock that Lore has.

 

I guess the focus is all on Peril and Corruption right now, but Lore is always in my LO. I hope it gets some love soon.

[Code Serpent]

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I guess the focus is all on Peril and Corruption right now, but Lore is always in my LO. I hope it gets some love soon.

I was intending on working on DL after releasing Corruption, but I think Peril deserves some work first. Once I make sure Corruption is working for everyone, and I give Peril some bug fixes and a few more features, I'll come back and work on this.

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

I was intending on working on DL after releasing Corruption, but I think Peril deserves some work first. Once I make sure Corruption is working for everyone, and I give Peril some bug fixes and a few more features, I'll come back and work on this.

For what it's worth, I think you have the priorities right there  

[aurreth]

Thelia Dialogue:

 

- Player:  Can I buy the restraints your girls are wearing?  (<_DL_GlobalMongerCost> Gold)

- Thelia:  N-no, I am n-not allowed to sell my works over a sum like that. I'm sorry.

 

Sooo, obvious glitch there.  I checked, _DL_GlobalMongerCost=1000.00.  Obviously Thelia isn't picking up that value.  Any idea where to look to fix that?

[aurreth]

22 minutes ago, aurreth said:

Thelia Dialogue:

 

- Player:  Can I buy the restraints your girls are wearing?  (<_DL_GlobalMongerCost> Gold)

- Thelia:  N-no, I am n-not allowed to sell my works over a sum like that. I'm sorry.

 

Sooo, obvious glitch there.  I checked, _DL_GlobalMongerCost=1000.00.  Obviously Thelia isn't picking up that value.  Any idea where to look to fix that?

 

Found it.  It is supposed to be (<Global=_DL_GlobalMongerCost> Gold).  

 

Of course she still isn't selling, I assume I need to retrieve more than one package for her  

[Zaflis]

On 12/11/2020 at 1:11 PM, Player80 said:

Every non-wrist, non-gag and non-collar restraints were invisible, and the colored versions of the visible ropes were defaulted to the standard color.

I've used both version 4.3 and 5.0.

So basically that means most fullbody restraints? They are known to be invisible unless you batch build them in Bodyslide. And make sure that you use Bodyslide right way, for example the body preview should show it fully textured almost as ingame.

[Player80]

12 hours ago, Zaflis said:

So basically that means most fullbody restraints? They are known to be invisible unless you batch build them in Bodyslide. And make sure that you use Bodyslide right way, for example the body preview should show it fully textured almost as ingame.

I've already found and posted a fix in the comments, it had nothing to do with bodyslide.

[Horologia]

Please, maybe someone can shed some light onto this.

I've found one of the Containers, opened it, met laekette, did her quest, got rewarded.
However, her shop isn't open to me, havn't gotten the key and when i unlock her place with the console, she calls the guards on me.

This does not only happen with her, but all the loremongers.
Is my installation just bugged, or is there more to it to unlock their favor?

Thanks in advance

[Baltasarr80]

you need to find more of them if i remember correct

[YojimboRatchet]

On 1/31/2021 at 3:47 AM, Horologia said:

I've found one of the Containers, opened it, met laekette, did her quest, got rewarded.

 

if i recall, you're not supposed to open the containers. you are supposed to give them back unopened, and then tell them you want no reward. only then will they offer you to visit their store.

[YojimboRatchet]

i've found a possible direct conflict between Cursed Loot and Devious Lore. the trap mechanism, the self-bondage, and the restraints found in containers are breaking DCL's trap functionality and settings, regardless of whether Lore is before or after in the mod orders.

[Horologia]

1 hour ago, YojimboRatchet said:

 

if i recall, you're not supposed to open the containers. you are supposed to give them back unopened, and then tell them you want no reward. only then will they offer you to visit their store.

 

Sadly, i don't even have the choice to refuse a reward.
Just did laekette again, gave her the daedric charm (untouched) and she gives me skeleton-keys and some money, before leaving

[AGFeng]

On 2/1/2021 at 7:56 AM, Horologia said:

 

Sadly, i don't even have the choice to refuse a reward.
Just did laekette again, gave her the daedric charm (untouched) and she gives me skeleton-keys and some money, before leaving

 

On 1/31/2021 at 4:36 AM, DarthCoder said:

I'm too having problem with SE version, game crash (CDT) when i get close to any lore-monger, after the quest had been activated by talking to the barman or by entering their houses. (like Aldmeri Imports).

 

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I've been having similar issues as well, on SE. I saw a few pages back that someone said they had seen an issue with the eyebrow NIFs or something like that in SE? I'm no coder/modder, but my crashes at least feel like they're being caused when the lore monger is being called upon and loaded.
The issue with being unable to give the items up for no reward has happened the few times I've been able to actually get close to a lore monger and complete their request, usually Laekette.