KoolHndLuke Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tyrant99 said: We don't have limitless kidneys, or livers, or spleens... What would make you think that any part of the human brain is limitless, including its ability to imagine things or simulate reality? It's just another organ at the end of the day, despite what certain egomaniacal homo sapiens with delusions of grandeur might say to the contrary. It's just a common response from people when discussing the products of imagination- that it is limitless. They're correct (I guess) in the infinite number of different combinations, but I doubt hardly anyone realizes that every product of our imagination is simply an extension of what we already know. In fact, we can't really imagine anything completely original- try as we might. It's a bit of a humbling revelation to me.
27X Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 We're literal slaves to the pattern. To us it seems limitless, because our shit's that limited. 1
worik Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Quote All pigs animals are equal, but some pigs animals are more equal than others https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/parliament-s-bars-exempt-from-10pm-coronavirus-curfew-wb6g6bbgp
landess Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 12:39 AM, KoolHndLuke said: Looking around at various stuff on Pinterest and a curious thought occurred to me- what if our imagination is not limitless like we think? Are we prisoners of what we know like familiar shapes, colors, textures, etc. ? How far beyond what we know does our imagination actually extend? I mean how would a person who has always been blind imagine something like color? Or sound for a person who has always been completely deaf? https://medium.com/tech-and-speculate/did-you-know-our-imagination-is-limited-94ff2639565 This has always been my argument to why we will never truly know the nature of the universe by being limited to the 5 senses evolution on earth has provided us. I'm not a fish, so can't imagine what information would be like conveyed by the 'lateral line'. Nor the natural sonar or 'radar' experienced by porpoise and bats. We have created tools based on the knowledge we possess to amplify or adapt these senses but our understanding remains grounded in them. We grasp at higher learning using mathematics to attempt divination of concepts like higher dimensions or quantum computing with limited success. If we as a species live long enough, we may indeed make some amazing discoveries beyond our limited ability by doing what we do best: Building on the knowledge we've acquired and using our imagination to test the boundaries. BTW - I'm starting to think size does 'matter'. Spoiler 2
endersgame Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 1:53 AM, 27X said: We're literal slaves to the pattern. To us it seems limitless, because our shit's that limited. Moist robot theory.
Darkpig Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 4:49 AM, gregathit said: Quick summary, the majority of the left has moved much further left in the last 10 years (they call it being progressive) and they embrace socialism. Before that, they were much more moderate and leaned strongly towards capitalism. The right hasn't changed much at all in its stances. It just "appears" to be more right due to how far many of the left have gone. As for talking points.......that is used car salesman speak. Don't believe or trust any of it. Instead, look at their record and what they have supported. Actions are what you have to go by over here. Both sides tell lies to get votes. Sad. But true. Politicians have always been crazy. That much is a fact. Capitalism isn't the way as controlling a resource is a form of political control. Can't have communism cause governments controlling things is a form of political control. This is a balance that both parties need to make. A small government is good for rural communities but bad for bigger cities. Yes like it or not the country is turning into new new Britain. SAY IT ISN'T SO! But it is. In the government some form of wealth distribution is unavoidable and come to think of it in a business wealth distribution is also unavoidable. BUT THATS ROBBERY! Nah that's life. On 9/27/2020 at 4:49 AM, gregathit said: It isn't just Texans. Roughly 40 percent of the population in the us lives in a house that there is at least one gun in. Those that own guns tend to own multiple guns. Roughly 5 million first time gun buyers bought a gun so far in 2020. As for why the democrats want to take them away.........it is part of their long term plan to make the country socialist or communist (idiots like AOC and Bernie Sanders use both terms interchangeably, likely because they are not smart enough to know the difference between them). In order to take away the other rights and repeal the constitution you have to take away the guns of the citizens. Fortunately enough citizens of the US disagree with giving up our guns. We are a little stubborn. Ok, hell, we are a lot stubborn. We still haven't adopted the metric system. ROFL!!! Government control is kind of funny that way. Like anything you take away someone's toys and they are going to cry about it. Make people wear a mask and they are going to cry about it. If you take a psycho's gun they are going to cry about it. How about this idea: Actually training people how to use guns before giving it to them. Nevermind. People are going to cry about it. On 9/27/2020 at 4:49 AM, gregathit said: Yea, creepy, sleepy Joe is pretty hard to get behind. Especially when he won't come out of the basement he is hiding in. As for the Orange Man. He is a product of the times. I find it hilarious when he trolls the other party and the media. They get so very butt hurt over it that it is just so freaking funny. Not as much as he gets butt hurt. He is kind of a running joke at this point.? On 9/27/2020 at 4:49 AM, gregathit said: While the articles are not wrong. They are not right either. The US is very large and hugely diverse. While much of what all three articles talked about is most certainly true of some of the inner city schools in the very large cities, it is equally false in other large cities as well as medium size cities down to villages. The midwest, where I primarily grew up, it really isn't true as the schools were quite diverse. I went to a junior high (6 to 9th grade) and a high school that were 50 percent black. No body cared one way or another. Now that was 20 years ago, I have nephews and nieces going to those same schools and nothing appears to have changed much. Now Chicago or Detroit inner city schools most likely will have those differences that those articles discussed. The US has subcultures that effect this as well. You can't assume that because some folks in one part of the US do one thing that others agree. It is complicated. There it is. Its that complicated argument again.
27X Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 Sony will be supporting RAD's Oodle across all games, upping the PS5's bandwidth I/O by 70%. Considering Rock*Star wanted to make Bully II and GTAVI exclusives to ps5 for two years for 125M and Sony said "nah", M$ should be very VERY glad they bought Zenimax or the consoles wars would have been over before they started.
gregathit Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: Politicians have always been crazy. Agreed. I rate them below used car salesmen and ambulance chasers. 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: Capitalism isn't the way as controlling a resource is a form of political control. What? Prove it. Capitalism works. Period. Every program that has socialistic ties that the US has introduced is an embarrassing failure. The government should only control one resource and that is the armed forces. They should NEVER have control of any natural resources. If we allow that......well fuck me..........I hope we can do without that resource. ? 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: A small government is good for rural communities but bad for bigger cities. Umm.....no. Name me one program that a big city must have that a rural community doesn't. Both have schools, roads, bridges, utilities, and so on and so on. The only difference is in scale. Now obviously there will be more people working in the bigger cities than the rural communities both in and out of the government. What I mean by small is getting rid of all sorts of things we just don't need. National and state school boards. Fuck that, gone. Public colleges, nothing but a tax drain, gone. They can all go private, which for many would get them to sharpen that pencil as students would not stand for a huge increase in tuition. IRS, gone. Incremental flat tax (no deductions allowed) that is taken out of your check by your employer. Federal welfare, gone. If states want to offer a safety net, well that is up to that states voters. Healthcare mandates at the federal level, gone. Kick this down to state or even better to county and city levels for them to look at. The post office, gone. It figures out how to survive as a independent business or dies. Personally, I'm fine with it going away. HHS, gone. Kick this to the CDC and then scale the CDC back removing all the bureaucratic personnel and leave the professionals. Then make it a non-profit and make congress review and approve their budget every year. You can leave HHS at the state level and they can coordinate with the CDC when situations demand it. OSHA, gone. States can fill this gap (many have to combat the retardedly ridiculous fines that OSHA often demands). No one single entity should ever be inspector, judge, jury and collection agent. No, folks won't immediately start dying if they went away. Criminal and civil lawsuits will punish those who are unsafe. I'm all for continued training and you could make a good argument to keep a very scaled down OSHA in place at the national level to just gather data and kick out training and awareness information. And so on and so on. The federal and many state governments have demonstrated time and time again that when they get involved in ANYTHING they fuck it up and make it at minimum 10 times worse than it was. Neither you or I are fans of governments, so I know we can both whip up a quick list of governments embarrassing fuckups. But hey, if you want to keep coughing up taxes to pay for 500 dollar hammers and 1000 dollar toilet seats, I won't stop you. I just don't want to join you. ?
landess Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, gregathit said: The government should only control one resource and that is the armed forces. As Ex-Navy I still remember the Navy's Mission : To keep the sea lanes open. This was stressed during boot camp indoctrination as it was made clear most of the natural resources the US needs are imported. I doubt that has changed much in 40 years. Bombing shit from the oceans is just a bonus..... 2
Darkpig Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, gregathit said: Agreed. I rate them below used car salesmen and ambulance chasers. Oi! My dog is an ambulance chaser and I consider him smarter than most. Or am I thinking of garbage trucks? 11 minutes ago, gregathit said: What? Prove it. Government regulated Capitalism works. Period. Every program that has socialistic ties that the US has introduced is an embarrassing failure. The government should only control one resource and that is the armed forces. They should NEVER have control of any natural resources. If we allow that......well fuck me..........I hope we can do without that resource. ? Fixed. Besides you already answered your own question when you mentioned roads, schools and utilities. If you think you can do without those things be my guest but for once I'll play devil's advocate. Even I think fluoride in the water is stupid. 11 minutes ago, gregathit said: Umm.....no. Name me one program that a big city must have that a rural community doesn't. Both have schools, roads, bridges, utilities, and so on and so on. The only difference is in scale. Now obviously there will be more people working in the bigger cities than the rural communities both in and out of the government. What I mean by small is getting rid of all sorts of things we just don't need. National and state school boards. Fuck that, gone. Public colleges, nothing but a tax drain, gone. They can all go private, which for many would get them to sharpen that pencil as students would not stand for a huge increase in tuition. IRS, gone. Incremental flat tax (no deductions allowed) that is taken out of your check by your employer. Federal welfare, gone. If states want to offer a safety net, well that is up to that states voters. Healthcare mandates at the federal level, gone. Kick this down to state or even better to county and city levels for them to look at. The post office, gone. It figures out how to survive as a independent business or dies. Personally, I'm fine with it going away. HHS, gone. Kick this to the CDC and then scale the CDC back removing all the bureaucratic personnel and leave the professionals. Then make it a non-profit and make congress review and approve their budget every year. You can leave HHS at the state level and they can coordinate with the CDC when situations demand it. OSHA, gone. States can fill this gap (many have to combat the retardedly ridiculous fines that OSHA often demands). No one single entity should ever be inspector, judge, jury and collection agent. No, folks won't immediately start dying if they went away. Criminal and civil lawsuits will punish those who are unsafe. I'm all for continued training and you could make a good argument to keep a very scaled down OSHA in place at the national level to just gather data and kick out training and awareness information. And so on and so on. The federal and many state governments have demonstrated time and time again that when they get involved in ANYTHING they fuck it up and make it at minimum 10 times worse than it was. Neither you or I are fans of governments, so I know we can both whip up a quick list of governments embarrassing fuckups. But hey, if you want to keep coughing up taxes to pay for 500 dollar hammers and 1000 dollar toilet seats, I won't stop you. I just don't want to join you. ? 1000 dollar toilets. What is it made of gold? Again those roads bridges and utilities were funded by government. I should have clarified that it is rural communities in the past I am talking about. With the way things are going we will eventually run out of west... well I'll be dammed we've already run out and the population is getting bigger too. Getting rid of school boards means getting rid of paid education which will not magically come out the pockets of business owners. Good luck facing angry college students with even bigger loans to pay off because you got rid of local colleges. The IRS is being paid off by tax software companies to make things harder so get rid of that corporate shit stain instead. Corporate healthcare is a fucking mess. Getting rid of the post office I surprisingly don't care too much about unless it somehow inconveniences people who depend on it. Everything else is either something I don't care about or I have a lack of information about. I obviously don't care much for big government but mega corporations can kiss my ass. Instead of having one big problems there are several small ones. Disney is holding several copyrights hostage, Google basically controls the internet, Facebook is a security risk. If people were responsible I would say let capitalism do its thing but they aren't. Small businesses will need some kind of small advantage to avoid getting bought out by bigger companies cause that is bad in a competition run system. Things like education will give people the edge they need to survive and basic finances to feed themselves. Again not likely coming out of business pockets unless it is publicly televised but even then they could just lie their ass off and send their money to their other bank account.
gregathit Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Fixed. Besides you already answered your own question when you mentioned roads, schools and utilities. If you think you can do without those things be my guest but for once I'll play devil's advocate. Even I think fluoride in the water is stupid. I thought I was clear about roads and utilities being "managed" by the government. They hire out the actual work, so that keeps the managing portion of the gov small. Utilities should be the same, owned by private companies and give a small board oversight. Texas is doing just fine with deregulated private utilities. Rural uses co-ops. So nothing to do without there. As for fluoride in the water........I hope you don't think the government is what stops this. Fucking Wichita, KS tried to do it but was forced to stop only due to it being put to a vote by the people (I was building a project up there and saw it in the paper a few years back). Guess who was pushing it? Yep, fucking politicians on both sides of the aisle shilling for I think it was Vulcan Chemicals (not 100% sure). Just shows you politicians are whores who most certainly can be bought. Transparency can help keep folks honest, not some sort government oversight. Transparency and enabling folks to sue them if they fuck shit up. 46 minutes ago, Darkpig said: 1000 dollar toilets. What is it made of gold? Again those roads bridges and utilities were funded by government. No. The expensive hammers and toilet seats were a reference to a scandal of spending on government managed projects that did not have transparency. As for "funded by government".........you realize that really means funded by you and me right? The government doesn't make any money. It only takes it from others. Regardless, I am fine with roads and infrastructure being built by private companies who submit the lowest bid and are managed by others (architects, inspectors and engineers) who report to the government. 51 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Getting rid of school boards means getting rid of paid education which will not magically come out the pockets of business owners. I'm a fan of school choice. I'd like to see all public schools go away. Private schools and charter schools would take their place. The money doesn't just come from businesses, it comes from sales tax, property tax and other sources as well. Schools would then be forced to up their game as those schools who did not would have their students leave. 54 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Good luck facing angry college students with even bigger loans to pay off because you got rid of local colleges. First off, I think college is over-rated. I'd like to see a return of trade schools, apprenticeships and even just Juco's to get an associates degree and call it good. Seriously, how much of your four years (or cough...cough.......those of us who took a little longer......damn alcohol and partying!) do folks use? Not a whole hell of a lot. I'd like to see firms get rid of the silly standard of requiring it and look seriously at trade schools and folks with associate degrees. Competition will force 4 year colleges to get off their asses to lower tuition and improve their services or they will fail. I have had friends and family in high places in higher education and you have the typical government nonsense of spending all of your annual budget or you won't get as much the next year. They only tighten their belt when it is a bad year and the government isn't giving them as much. All that bloat adds up. Besides, how many students are actually paying that tuition? How many have mommy and daddy footing them bill? 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: The IRS is being paid off by tax software companies to make things harder so get rid of that corporate shit stain instead. Agreed. The IRS is a bloated nonsensical shit stain that needs to be put out of business. There is zero reason for it to exist. 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: Getting rid of the post office I surprisingly don't care too much about unless it somehow inconveniences people who depend on it. The only ones that I am aware that depend on the post office is the bloody employees that work there and those who are collecting their pensions having retired from there. We can figure out something for the pensioned folks, the workers can go apply at fedex and UPS. 1 hour ago, Darkpig said: I obviously don't care much for big government but mega corporations can kiss my ass. This to me is where we should focus our thoughts. Breaking up the monopoly on phone lines was good for the country and people. We do need to closely examine each of these monopolies and weight their benefits versus their cost. 1 hour ago, landess said: As Ex-Navy I still remember the Navy's Mission : To keep the sea lanes open. This was stressed during boot camp indoctrination as it was made clear most of the natural resources the US needs are imported. I doubt that has changed much in 40 years. Bombing shit from the oceans is just a bonus..... Yep. Fuck up our enemies from land, air, water and now space. Of course it will be awhile and require a whole lot more technology before the "space force" actually means something.
landess Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, gregathit said: The expensive hammers and toilet seats were a reference to a scandal of spending on government managed projects that did not have transparency. I guess I can add some transparency here. When I became an aviation storekeeper, I learned something about government spending and don't know why anything hasn't been done to streamline it. I'll explain. Just using the command I was assigned to as an example - which can be multiplied by every government body using the same financial system: We had a budget given us at the beginning of the financial year. We had this to maintain the command for all expenses. This means everything from pens and paper to chairs, table, jet fuel, aircraft parts, tools (property maintenance and utilities for location commands housing multiple smaller commands) - you get the idea. If we needed to purchase something that demanded cash, we applied to a 'imprest fund' which allowed these purchases with receipts being returned as we knew exactly how much cash was needed to complete the transaction down to the penny. Now with the functions of the commands 'purchasing department' described, now comes the problem: At the end of the year we were made aware of how much 'money' was left in our budget, and advised to spend as much of that as possible whether anything was 'needed or not'. Why? Because our budget would be lowered by the amount left over and trying to increase a budget required a lot of red tape with no guarantee the budget would be increased. So instead of the remaining budget being returned 'to the taxpayer pool', it was spent for reasons. Why they didn't allow for review averages over say 'every 5 years' with adjustments made based on an unspent average during this time so some years the overage could be returned while other years certain 'needed' things could still be acquired shows me there is a lot of 'waste' because of this financial structure. Like I mentioned - now multiply this issue by every single military command, and likely every government office from the local driver's licence bureau to the national park services - EVERYTHING using government spending funded by taxpayer dollars, and one can see there's a lot of money being spent unwisely. A few $1000 hammers don't mean much in the big picture.
gregathit Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, landess said: Snip The expensive hammers were just part of the reference. The situation that you describe unfortunately is not just in the military. It is carried out at every public college by every department in each college. It is carried out in every school district across the country. These are just to name a few that I know from personnel experience. As you said, review budgets based on 4-5 year time periods rather than each quarter or year. Instead of penalizing folks, give them rewards for saving money and then dump that money back into the general fund to save for when times are hard. Add up all those nickels and you are talking millions, perhaps even billions of dollars. This is why I have to take a deep breath and refrain from choking folks who ignorantly say that the government should do this or that. Holy fuck balls batman! They can't even do what they are currently doing worth a damn and you want to give them more? Shit on a stick and call it a popsicle will ya. 1
landess Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, gregathit said: Add up all those nickels and you are talking millions, perhaps even billions of dollars. I decided to lighten the mood: Spoiler
Grey Cloud Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 It's back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFlvDeOFhw&feature=emb_rel_pause 4 hours ago, gregathit said: Capitalism works. Period. All politico/economic systems 'work' The questions are how well do they work; who do they work for; what is the cost for those it doesn't work for, etc. 1
Darkpig Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, gregathit said: I thought I was clear about roads and utilities being "managed" by the government. They hire out the actual work, so that keeps the managing portion of the gov small. Utilities should be the same, owned by private companies and give a small board oversight. Texas is doing just fine with deregulated private utilities. Rural uses co-ops. So nothing to do without there. As for fluoride in the water........I hope you don't think the government is what stops this. Fucking Wichita, KS tried to do it but was forced to stop only due to it being put to a vote by the people (I was building a project up there and saw it in the paper a few years back). Guess who was pushing it? Yep, fucking politicians on both sides of the aisle shilling for I think it was Vulcan Chemicals (not 100% sure). Just shows you politicians are whores who most certainly can be bought. Transparency can help keep folks honest, not some sort government oversight. Transparency and enabling folks to sue them if they fuck shit up. Then keep government transparent except for national security matters. 2 hours ago, gregathit said: No. The expensive hammers and toilet seats were a reference to a scandal of spending on government managed projects that did not have transparency. As for "funded by government".........you realize that really means funded by you and me right? The government doesn't make any money. It only takes it from others. Regardless, I am fine with roads and infrastructure being built by private companies who submit the lowest bid and are managed by others (architects, inspectors and engineers) who report to the government. Key word here is government. 2 hours ago, gregathit said: I'm a fan of school choice. I'd like to see all public schools go away. Doesn't work that way Boo. 2 hours ago, gregathit said: First off, I think college is over-rated. I'd like to see a return of trade schools, apprenticeships and even just Juco's to get an associates degree and call it good. Seriously, how much of your four years (or cough...cough.......those of us who took a little longer......damn alcohol and partying!) do folks use? Not a whole hell of a lot. I'd like to see firms get rid of the silly standard of requiring it and look seriously at trade schools and folks with associate degrees. Competition will force 4 year colleges to get off their asses to lower tuition and improve their services or they will fail. I have had friends and family in high places in higher education and you have the typical government nonsense of spending all of your annual budget or you won't get as much the next year. They only tighten their belt when it is a bad year and the government isn't giving them as much. All that bloat adds up. Besides, how many students are actually paying that tuition? How many have mommy and daddy footing them bill? What frat boys do in their free time is none of my concern and neither should it be yours. Also mommy and daddy can't afford tuition so it is all up to a sports scholarship. But seriously save the mommy daddy insult for nonessential things like Disney+ or Amazon or junk food you don't need. Having taxes pay for education is happening no matter where you stand on the matter. People need an education to work and people need to work to get an education. The irony is real. If companies are willing to train people then this would be different but I don't see any companies willing to step up to the plate except for trade schools. 2 hours ago, gregathit said: This to me is where we should focus our thoughts. Breaking up the monopoly on phone lines was good for the country and people. We do need to closely examine each of these monopolies and weight their benefits versus their cost. Hmmm... yes and no. Lawyers are a bitch to deal with and with that the definition of monopoly is suddenly more flexible.
Grey Cloud Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 We have a monopolies commission* here in the UK. This led to the question: "Why is there only one monopolies commission?" ** * Monopolies and Merges Commission. ** John Cooper Clarke.
Psalam Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: We have a monopolies commission* here in the UK. This led to the question: "Why is there only one monopolies commission?" ** * Monopolies and Merges Commission. ** John Cooper Clarke. That reminds me of something I heard on the radio yesterday. "Is the guy who coined the phrase 'one hit wonder' known for any other pithy and popular phrases?"
Grey Cloud Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Psalam said: "Is the guy who coined the phrase 'one hit wonder' known for any other pithy and popular phrases?" ? Another of JCC's "How deep would the sea be if there weren't all those sponges down there?"
Grey Cloud Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, GimmeBACON said: Great post/video. ?
woodsman30 Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 Waiting for? ...when the shit goes south....when... not if. People always talked about the zombie apocalypses I say it is here already people can not walk five feet without their phone in their faces looks like mindless zombies to me. I do not think most people truly understand how close to the brink we really are... enter prior sentence bout zombies with phones. 4
landess Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, woodsman30 said: Waiting for? ...when the shit goes south....when... not if. People always talked about the zombie apocalypses I say it is here already people can not walk five feet without their phone in their faces looks like mindless zombies to me. I do not think most people truly understand how close to the brink we really are... enter prior sentence bout zombies with phones. I've been 'into' computers since the 80's. I know a majority of people my age (60+) have told me "they don't want anything to do with computers". Enter the mobile phone and now these same people are just as hopelessly addicted as most young people. I always laugh inside as they are now using a computer..... 5
gregathit Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: Doesn't work that way Boo. Just because we are not doing a particular thing right at the moment, doesn't mean we can't do something else there cupcake. Public schools aren't working. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Charter schools are working. Private schools definitely work. About 2.5 million are homeschooling, which also works. There is no reason that we could not do school vouchers. Now the teachers union would be pissed, but who cares. They are part of the problem anyway. 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: Having taxes pay for education is happening no matter where you stand on the matter. I never said otherwise. I'm just saying that through school vouchers the individual parent would have the choice to send their kid to the best school for their child. What is wrong with that? 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: People need an education to work and people need to work to get an education. The irony is real. If companies are willing to train people then this would be different but I don't see any companies willing to step up to the plate except for trade schools. I assume you have a bachelors degree in something or other. How many times in your life have you actually used any of it? Beyond telling folks you have it, what use is it really? Yes, I get it that folks have come to set it as the ticket to get in the door. I'm just saying that it is nonsensical. The critical thinking that used to be what college was all about has been stripped away and now it is one giant safety bubble where no contrary thoughts or ideas are allowed. If you do utter something that challenges their ideology they take that as a micro-aggression and try to shout you down. How is this nonsense preparing you for the workforce? Then this snowflake graduates, has massive debt from the college experience and tries to get a job. I've seen some of these idiots. They last less than a week. 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: If companies are willing to train people then this would be different but I don't see any companies willing to step up to the plate except for trade schools. Construction is one industry that both honors trade schools and nothing more than a high school degree. And that is just one. 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: Lawyers are a bitch to deal with and with that the definition of monopoly is suddenly more flexible. I can certainly agree. 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: What frat boys do in their free time is none of my concern and neither should it be yours. Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh. ? Sorry, you just walked right into that one my friend.
gregathit Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Ok, enough seriousness. Here is a little laugh: Spoiler 4
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