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3 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

Ok, these times are crazy enough that I have to ask, are these real comments made by the developer or just funny conjecture on what they really meant?

Consider that a satirical recreation of events by 27X.  That is to say, no one ever said those things in those exact terms (not officially anyway), but they probably should have, as then they'd at least have been a bit more honest and direct.  It's really not a bad summary of the mess it's turned into.

 

3 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

I am very disappointed to hear this news, but maybe that is a good thing since I loved V:TM Redemption and thought V:TM Bloodlines was a cool sequel.   Of course that was before companies started thinking becoming "woke" was a good thing.  OK, I will admit, I still drink Coca Cola in spite of their incredibly dumb "woke" campaign, but I get a pass since it isn't applicable to me.  

The whole 'woke' thing has been so bastardized and co-opted it barely even means anything anymore.  In fact, some major sources no longer consider the term to mean what it originally did (since used back in the 40s during a period of actual social activism) to NOW mean how pretentious someone is about any given social issue buzz.  lol  Priceless.

 

Personally, I really miss the days when a video game was, y'know... entertainment, and less focus fell on the "OMG!  Let's be sure we don't possibly piss ANYONE off" aspect.  Makes games so washed out and plain once you over-sanitize every possible aspect that's gonna offend ANYONE IMO.  Not to say we should be making things DESIGNED to piss on anyone in particular, but I mean.. it's a freaking GAME people..  I'm pretty sure we can let some of this shit slide and it's fairly unlikely to cause the downfall of society.

 

Freaking Jack Thompson.  I *knew* we shoulda taken that idiot out way back in the day before he gained all the traction and media attention.  :P

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1 hour ago, Kitty said:

DESIGNED to piss on anyone in particular

Does no one remember the idea of "tongue and cheek". You cater to a target audience without being overt about it. Much easier to digest that way and gives the creator a back door. :classic_wink:

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7 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

 

Ok, these times are crazy enough that I have to ask, are these real comments made by the developer or just funny conjecture on what they really meant?

 

I am very disappointed to hear this news, but maybe that is a good thing since I loved V:TM Redemption and thought V:TM Bloodlines was a cool sequel.   Of course that was before companies started thinking becoming "woke" was a good thing.  OK, I will admit, I still drink Coca Cola in spite of their incredibly dumb "woke" campaign, but I get a pass since it isn't applicable to me.  

 

As to the video, I know it is unlikely, but I wish some developers had brand loyalty and Activision would buy it back and do it right......of course that is as likely as Trioka games or Interplay returning from the past to make this game a worthy successor of V:TM Redemption.

 

On a couple more positive notes, this allows me more time to finish my V:TM mod for FO4 (only have the radio mod out now), and maybe it is better that V:TM remain just those two good games and not be ruined as the woke community has done to so many other great series/movies/games/etc.

 

 

The re-toning is sarcasm, unfortunately there is very little hyperbole to go with said statements, even up to and including giving Garou a tickbox trans option, which if you knew ANYTHING about Garou is literally impossible outside of getting an Incarna Fae, The Great Coyote or a Mummy to do it to/for you... or literally walking the Path of the Wyrm, all of which which not only involves serious Storytelling chops and a literal personalized quest for that Garou, is not a twitter approved checkbox option in any version of WoD, nevermind the reaction of several tribes' breeding and gender traditions regarding a species that is literally going extinct.

 

The entire reason WoD is still around is the individual Storyteller was the boss of canon, not a corporate marketing account. Going off the normal and expected path was entirely show and absolutely no tell didn't and doesn't cut it. Not having a quest the devs actually had to put work into to become the chosen gender(s) and just having a tick box is half-assed pandery garbage.

 

The "language sensitivity training" thing is also neither sarcasm nor hyperbole.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Kitty said:

Consider that a satirical recreation of events by 27X.  That is to say, no one ever said those things in those exact terms (not officially anyway), but they probably should have, as then they'd at least have been a bit more honest and direct.  It's really not a bad summary of the mess it's turned into.

 

The whole 'woke' thing has been so bastardized and co-opted it barely even means anything anymore.  In fact, some major sources no longer consider the term to mean what it originally did (since used back in the 40s during a period of actual social activism) to NOW mean how pretentious someone is about any given social issue buzz.  lol  Priceless.

 

Personally, I really miss the days when a video game was, y'know... entertainment, and less focus fell on the "OMG!  Let's be sure we don't possibly piss ANYONE off" aspect.  Makes games so washed out and plain once you over-sanitize every possible aspect that's gonna offend ANYONE IMO.  Not to say we should be making things DESIGNED to piss on anyone in particular, but I mean.. it's a freaking GAME people..  I'm pretty sure we can let some of this shit slide and it's fairly unlikely to cause the downfall of society.

 

Freaking Jack Thompson.  I *knew* we shoulda taken that idiot out way back in the day before he gained all the traction and media attention.  :P

Penn and Teller actually made a game designed to be the most inoffensive thing possible. That practically guarantees that someone out there found it mortally offensive. 

 

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20 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

 

Ok, these times are crazy enough that I have to ask, are these real comments made by the developer or just funny conjecture on what they really meant?

 

I am very disappointed to hear this news, but maybe that is a good thing since I loved V:TM Redemption and thought V:TM Bloodlines was a cool sequel.   Of course that was before companies started thinking becoming "woke" was a good thing.  OK, I will admit, I still drink Coca Cola in spite of their incredibly dumb "woke" campaign, but I get a pass since it isn't applicable to me.  

 

As to the video, I know it is unlikely, but I wish some developers had brand loyalty and Activision would buy it back and do it right......of course that is as likely as Trioka games or Interplay returning from the past to make this game a worthy successor of V:TM Redemption.

 

On a couple more positive notes, this allows me more time to finish my V:TM mod for FO4 (only have the radio mod out now), and maybe it is better that V:TM remain just those two good games and not be ruined as the woke community has done to so many other great series/movies/games/etc.

 

 

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What even is going on with this game? Last i heard of it was a year ago and i can barely remember what it was about. I just realized that i'm increasingly falling out of the "online loop" so to speak, very strange feeling to look at people talking about controversies and not getting any of it lol. My premature old man psyche is coming out already and i have mixed feelings.

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I (foolishly) assumed Vampire 2 was going to be like 1.  Me of all people not taking wokeness corrupting everything it touches into account... <_<

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28 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

I (foolishly) assumed Vampire 2 was going to be like 1.  Me of all people not taking wokeness corrupting everything it touches into account... <_<

 

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26 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

I (foolishly) assumed Vampire 2 was going to be like 1.  Me of all people not taking wokeness corrupting everything it touches into account... <_<

 

Maybe they will allow modding, so we can rip out all the woke stuff and make it a version of Bloodlines that Velvet Velour would be proud of.

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46 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

I (foolishly) assumed Vampire 2 was going to be like 1.  Me of all people not taking wokeness corrupting everything it touches into account... <_<

Is that not rather like Spider-Man dismissing a massive tingle of his Spider-Sense by thinking "Ah, it's probably just the wind. Note to self: never eat chili before going out on the town."?

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18 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

 

Maybe they will allow modding, so we can rip out all the woke stuff and make it a version of Bloodlines that Velvet Velour would be proud of.

 

If they're literally making you sign consent forms allowing "violence" online, there is no amount of modding that will fix why this game should not be played.

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22 minutes ago, 27X said:

 

If they're literally making you sign consent forms allowing "violence" online, there is no amount of modding that will fix why this game should not be played.

Agreed.

 

If nothing else, from everything I've heard so far, it'd be good to keep sales of this thing as low as possible to send a message just how much this sort of thing sucks.  Assuming of course they ever even manage to sort this mess out enough to get a release.

 

Also, unless something radically changes, it'd probably be simpler at this point to rip the guts out of V:TM-B and build a total conversion of that, rather than think this thing is ever going to approach a state that's even near playable or enjoyable.

 

Sad, but I admit I did have a sinking feeling this whole project was going to go a really bad direction even back when I first heard of it.

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Looking at this review of Vampire- The Masquerade: Bloodlines can give on a reminder that there was no chance that a modern corporate game developer could ever recapture what made that game work so well.

That having been said, it would be better to risk social media 'Cancellation' (ugh, what a pretentious term for making a person or group into a pariah as well as a waste of time since the term Unperson already exists.) than actual cancellation due to not having any developers to make the game.

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One of the few times I'm so fucking glad I didn't get laid when I wanted to happened this last weekend. Was almost a victim of my own weakness and walked away unscathed to fuck another day- don't tell me there's no such thing as luck! :classic_tongue:

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1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

One of the few times I'm so fucking glad I didn't get laid when I wanted to happened this last weekend. Was almost a victim of my own weakness and walked away unscathed to fuck another day- don't tell me there's no such thing as luck! :classic_tongue:

"And thereby hangs a tale..."

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1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

One of the few times I'm so fucking glad I didn't get laid when I wanted to happened this last weekend. Was almost a victim of my own weakness and walked away unscathed to fuck another day- don't tell me there's no such thing as luck! :classic_tongue:

Luck is simply the current inability to change an outcome therefore luck is a machination of people that don't know any better.

 

You're welcome:classic_tongue:

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2 hours ago, Darkpig said:

luck is a machination of people that don't know any better

And since there is no other adequate word to describe when things in situations beyond our control turn against or in favor of us- we call it luck. Dumb luck to be more precise. :cool:

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20 hours ago, FauxFurry said:

Looking at this review of Vampire- The Masquerade: Bloodlines

 

Lucky for me I don't have to watch a review.....  This is why I almost have no room on my HD anymore - just - can't - delete - games - regularly . . . . .

 

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    I even tried making a 'Sim'

 

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@KoolHndLuke

"things in situations beyond our control turn against or in favor of us- we call it luck"

 

                                          ----?----

                   or             --?--  Fate  --?--                 You know, the real life 'choose your own adventure game'.

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6 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

And since there is no other adequate word to describe when things in situations beyond our control turn against or in favor of us- we call it luck. Dumb luck to be more precise. :cool:

Speaking of dumb I used the word machinations wrong. Machinations means evil plot.

 

Durr. I don't English so good.

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51 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

We need a new name for "mods". Talking about mods to mods to the original mod is too confusing, lol. :classic_wacko:

To mod or not to mod...

That is the question. 😵

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