Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[audhol]

7 hours ago, Iroha said:

Funny) I checked that dialogue ("take this and go see my friend belethor, he sells..."), voice and for me it sounds like "belethor", so its strange if you hear "beleeetiator ", but not fatal though

Well I might have exagerated a bit for comedic licence. From what I've heard so far the voice pack is well done and the phrases sound fairly natural. The software does seem to struggle more with names though, that was my point rather than trying to depreciate the work done by the author.

[Anunya]

I'm looking to give Wartimes a whirl in SE. I have the 9.2 tweak version from earlier in this thread, and in an early test I started Wartimes fine using Live Another Life. My character ran to Belethor fine, so that all looks good.

 

However, I don't have all the requirements listed on the first post of the thread and before I dive down those rabbit holes I just wanted to do a quick check that they are in fact still required (and get pointers on the correct version to use for SSE as there are often several floating around) ... and to ask if there are any gotchas or other things to look out for when getting Wartimes up and running

 

SD and SD cages are still required, right?

 

I'll Take the Display Model (which hilariously has a big thing saying won't work on SSE don't even try, while also saying Special Edition Compatible) and the monoman patch. Still required I assume?

 

Amputator Framework - is the conversion by prometheusx the best one to use?

 

I have Hentai pregnancy installed - I assume I should switch to Soul Gem Oven and Being Female for Wartimes?

 

Thanks for any help

[Monoman1]

38 minutes ago, Anunya said:

I'm looking to give Wartimes a whirl in SE. I have the 9.2 tweak version from earlier in this thread, and in an early test I started Wartimes fine using Live Another Life. My character ran to Belethor fine, so that all looks good.

 

However, I don't have all the requirements listed on the first post of the thread and before I dive down those rabbit holes I just wanted to do a quick check that they are in fact still required (and get pointers on the correct version to use for SSE as there are often several floating around) ... and to ask if there are any gotchas or other things to look out for when getting Wartimes up and running

 

SD and SD cages are still required, right?

 

I'll Take the Display Model (which hilariously has a big thing saying won't work on SSE don't even try, while also saying Special Edition Compatible) and the monoman patch. Still required I assume?

 

Amputator Framework - is the conversion by prometheusx the best one to use?

 

I have Hentai pregnancy installed - I assume I should switch to Soul Gem Oven and Being Female for Wartimes?

 

Thanks for any help

Soft Deps are listed in the installer. Only remaining hard deps are hearthfires and Zaz. Everything else is mostly optional. Though obviously the more stuff you have installed the more varied things are. 

 

Get Amp framework intended for WT here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3378897

 

And the Aroused Creatures Tweak Tweak from there also if you use AC otherwise Aldo will drive you insane. Not sure that was ever converted for SE though... but its just an esp. 

 

Everything else pull from the 9.2 post. 

 

Display Model isn't worth installing for the miniscule content added to WT IMO. 

 

SD and SS don't NEED to be installed but some of the outcomes will do nothing if they aren't installed. But these outcomes aren't the real substance of the mod anyway. The meat is in the indentured servitude part of the mod (which you get to by being respectful and naïve in the beginning). 

 

If you install the voice addon mod don't enable the esp. It contains out of date edits. 

Edited January 5, 2022 by Monoman1

[Iroha]

3 hours ago, audhol said:

 The software does seem to struggle more with names though.

You are right, names are a bit problematic for neural networks that voice dialogues. And I understand that you meant no harm, just wanted to hear that comedic voice you mentioned and didn't found it^-^

[kapibar]

On 12/27/2021 at 3:20 PM, Alis_999 said:

Doesn't work, and turn off mod didn't help if i save when Wartimes active. Someting bad with mod's scripts, i think it would be better if the mod was not intended as LAL. Maybe it would be better to start the mod after Greybeards. For the mod lore that may be good too, father try to enslave his dragonborn daughter and use her for money, huh? why not? sounds more hot i think then enslave ordinary girl.

A little update. Just got out of WT and I too have experienced problem with Ysolda's and Amren's quest, just as you did. Since I have fast travel blocked, in order to solve it I had to remove travel restriction, fast traveled to Solitude and again to Wihterun. It didn't help, so I TF'd to the Western Watchtower and once again to Whiterun Stables. I did not travel to the city. Crossed the main gate like a peasant and Ysolda's quest was good to go. I didn't check with Amren, but I don't suppose it will be any different.

I don't think this has anything to do with Wartimes, as this is not the first time I had problems with Ysolda and Amren. Everytime it happened, I started the game in Whiterun.

[lorddenorstrus]

So updated uuh quite a few versions I've been out of the loop for a bit.  (7.0 to 9.2 <_<... been busy just working non stop)

 

Lotta new stuff, new lines I see.   Just got the cum related part to activate.  Did get a spam of "No position for clutter or something."  That something new?

 

I noticed the drunk event seems to decide the yes or no answer when the event is activated.  Not when you respond.  So started saving as the event 'starts' and reloading to answer it wrong for testing purposes <_<.  Beating works yes.  What is the condition to be thrown in the cellar though?  7th beatin' later it has happened.   Just got a party and the blacksmith event after.

 

Got the event for "watch Mom get fucked"  but no Sexlab event occurred.  Just the text pop up.  Uuh if I think of anything else i'll add it later.  For once I have actual free time and I'm bored af so I'll prob be retesting the mod a few times.

 

@Monoman1  As usual tyvm for all the work you've done.

[Monoman1]

9 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

So updated uuh quite a few versions I've been out of the loop for a bit.  (7.0 to 9.2 <_<... been busy just working non stop)

Hope you followed the update instructions from v7.0 to 9.2...

There are a couple. Check the changelog. 

9 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

Did get a spam of "No position for clutter or something."  That something new?

Recording clutter positions for you to tidy up. See above. 

You should be able to fix it anyway by using the tidy room function and then record positions again via the wheel. 

9 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

What is the condition to be thrown in the cellar though? 

It's just purely random. I've gotten it lately so it should work ok. 

9 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

ot the event for "watch Mom get fucked"  but no Sexlab event occurred. 

There is none there and then. Mother is randomly/periodically fucked by father/aldo. When that starts get close, point the crosshairs at them and use the SLS wheel to start playing with yourself (Tease myself).

[divinefire]

I have not been able to fail at cooking for father in the recent updates no matter what settings I use. I pretty much have the same mod setup regarding food mods and it worked in the past updates. Anyone else having this issue as I have not been able to track down what is messing it up.

[PhantomX]

Hi guys. If I set Advance Chance and Advance Chance Increase to 0% in Sex Progression, does it mean that my character will have a possibility to avoid sex with father? And if yes, will I lose any non-sex related content?

[kapibar]

3 hours ago, divinefire said:

I have not been able to fail at cooking for father in the recent updates no matter what settings I use. I pretty much have the same mod setup regarding food mods and it worked in the past updates. Anyone else having this issue as I have not been able to track down what is messing it up.

Fuck, lucky man! I failed nearly 90% of the time, despite high alchemy and pretty low settings.

 

2 hours ago, PhantomX said:

Hi guys. If I set Advance Chance and Advance Chance Increase to 0% in Sex Progression, does it mean that my character will have a possibility to avoid sex with father? And if yes, will I lose any non-sex related content?

You'll lose a ton of content and the mod will be boring as fuck (not to mention some character behavior wouldn't make much sense). And father will rape your ass at least once, no matter what. If you want to avoid dirty, immoral sex, then I don't think this mod is what you seek.

[RinolaRaylo]

4 hours ago, kapibar said:

Fuck, lucky man! I failed nearly 90% of the time, despite high alchemy and pretty low settings.

For real. I was like getting anxiety at times, crossing fingers when bringing him a meal like "Please please please don't ream my ass this time daddy."

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, divinefire said:

I have not been able to fail at cooking for father in the recent updates no matter what settings I use. I pretty much have the same mod setup regarding food mods and it worked in the past updates. Anyone else having this issue as I have not been able to track down what is messing it up.

Cooking failures only begin happening after a certain point of sex progression with father (first massage I think). So they won't happen in the early game. 

17 hours ago, PhantomX said:

Hi guys. If I set Advance Chance and Advance Chance Increase to 0% in Sex Progression, does it mean that my character will have a possibility to avoid sex with father? And if yes, will I lose any non-sex related content?

Ahh. I think father will always rape you anyway if you resist. And many other progressions are based around your progression with father. 

[divinefire]

Ah ok, makes sense. I did restart and was fiddling with those two setting to get a good balance since I have other mods that play with alchemy. I was afraid it was something with those that was driving the success rate up.

 

You know you could do a similar random thing with drink since there is a few drinks that could spawn in the barrel. Trying to think of a skill to tie in with it but skyrim does not have a perception skill like the poor daughter grabbed the wrong bottle while thinking of something traumatic that happened that day lol.

[Monoman1]

Just now, divinefire said:

Ah ok, makes sense. I did restart and was fiddling with those two setting to get a good balance since I have other mods that play with alchemy. I was afraid it was something with those that was driving the success rate up.

 

You know you could do a similar random thing with drink since there is a few drinks that could spawn in the barrel. Trying to think of a skill to tie in with it but skyrim does not have a perception skill like the poor daughter grabbed the wrong bottle while thinking of something traumatic that happened that day lol.

More interesting/fun mechanics for failing would be nice. Even it's as simple as a memory game. - Father asks for wine. Add wine and mead to barrel. Player returns with mead = fail. 

Though getting the various systems to play nice together could be a PITA. And I don't want to be giving the player lots of free food/drink either. 

 

The party could also really use similar ways to fail. 

[lorddenorstrus]

I've so far only encountered one error I think.  Randomly a Punishment pops up, even with health damage disabled (Beatins cause 0 damage and function properly)  the pop up that says "you're thrown in the cellar" is causing an instant death that reloads an old save.   Not even TGM protects from it, or giving the player 10,000 HP.  So it doesn't appear to be health damage just the event itself is causing "death?"

[RinolaRaylo]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

More interesting/fun mechanics for failing would be nice. Even it's as simple as a memory game. - Father asks for wine. Add wine and mead to barrel. Player returns with mead = fail. 

Though getting the various systems to play nice together could be a PITA. And I don't want to be giving the player lots of free food/drink either. 

 

The party could also really use similar ways to fail. 

Any chance there's a way it could lock the player out the second they pick up one of the drinks? Or instead of showing both in the barrel there's a static shelf with "bottles" that can't be moved, and the player has to click it and pick one out of like three options?
"Bing me a mead, girl!"
Dialogue box pops up at the shelf asking which drink father wanted.
*Accidentally picks wine and can't put it back to grab something different.*

"I'm sorry daddy, I couldn't find the mead, here's some wine."
Father spanks the player and gains negative favor.

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, lorddenorstrus said:

I've so far only encountered one error I think.  Randomly a Punishment pops up, even with health damage disabled (Beatins cause 0 damage and function properly)  the pop up that says "you're thrown in the cellar" is causing an instant death that reloads an old save.   Not even TGM protects from it, or giving the player 10,000 HP.  So it doesn't appear to be health damage just the event itself is causing "death?"

The problem is that there's no way to get what your base health is in skyrim (afaik). So whats happening is you have some health buffing item equipped. You get beat down to low health. Then you're thrown in the cellar and your stuff is removed. Including your health buff item. Your health drops below 0 and so you expire...

 

Take off health buffs before/during beatings. 

[Monoman1]

24 minutes ago, RinolaRaylo said:

Any chance there's a way it could lock the player out the second they pick up one of the drinks

Mmm. Not really. I suspect you could just hit the 'take all' button and the scripts would have no time to react to stop it.

[EyeOfHorusWriting]

I'm getting stuck for some reason. When I sell the trinkets, and go back to give father the gold, I get the box telling me I blacked out, and the whole house switches to the BDSM items, but nothing else happens. The quest says I was sold into slavery, but nothing else happens.

 

I've played before, and got two different events, one where he stripped and whipped me, and one where I woke up in the cellar, but unfortunately, I did not have the nude mod properly enabled, so I restarted. However, now I'm stuck here. Any help?

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, EyeOfHorusWriting said:

I'm getting stuck for some reason. When I sell the trinkets, and go back to give father the gold, I get the box telling me I blacked out, and the whole house switches to the BDSM items, but nothing else happens. The quest says I was sold into slavery, but nothing else happens.

 

I've played before, and got two different events, one where he stripped and whipped me, and one where I woke up in the cellar, but unfortunately, I did not have the nude mod properly enabled, so I restarted. However, now I'm stuck here. Any help?

 

You've reached a 'summary end' due to your dialogue choices. Basically a hand off to simple slavery. See below. 

On 1/5/2022 at 8:54 PM, Monoman1 said:

SD and SS don't NEED to be installed but some of the outcomes will do nothing if they aren't installed. But these outcomes aren't the real substance of the mod anyway. The meat is in the indentured servitude part of the mod (which you get to by being respectful and naïve in the beginning

 

[safado]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Mmm. Not really. I suspect you could just hit the 'take all' button and the scripts would have no time to react to stop it.

 

You could use a proxy ingestible item "Party drink" with a vanilla alcoholic effect in case the PC drink it.   Having that item will present a multiple choice during drink serving to the guests.   Dialogue choice like,"Here is your beer (beer brand?)", "Here is your wine", "Here is your mead" and so on.  Snacks can also have a "Party snacks" proxy and receive the same features with choices.

Wrong choice, do the things you want to add.   No need to be extra immersive.  

 

If you know how, you could also random swap the position of the choice's lineup around every new dialogue instance.

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by safado

[safado]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

The problem is that there's no way to get what your base health is in skyrim (afaik). So whats happening is you have some health buffing item equipped. You get beat down to low health. Then you're thrown in the cellar and your stuff is removed. Including your health buff item. Your health drops below 0 and so you expire...

 

Take off health buffs before/during beatings. 

 

I always have my PC in essential mode because of issues like this. 

 

[thomastm]

On 7/11/2021 at 7:35 PM, Monoman1 said:

 

Sexlab Survival 0.674 BETA (27-Oct-2021).7z 67.56 MB · 546 downloads

 

This version can't purchase license?

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, thomastm said:

This version can't purchase license?

Nothing to do with sls. Its wartimes. Father is controlling your life. Get your licences through him. You can turn it off in the WT mcm. 

[thomastm]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Nothing to do with sls. Its wartimes. Father is controlling your life. Get your licences through him. You can turn it off in the WT mcm. 

How come there no dialogue to give the 10 beef stew to western watchtower food supplier guard? In mcm the guard cook quest is not active only party quest is active (what is that quest?) also YPS I have to turn on body & face hair right? If yes does it work with BHUNP Body and which mod do I need to download for hair, piercing, makeup & stockings/heels?

Edited January 11, 2022 by thomastm