Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[milklover123]

I don't know if it is a bug or not, but when PC progress to 100 depravity & submission, the dialogue option "relieve tension" is no longer there, there is just this "Please rape me father" dialogue, it results in exactly one particular anal sex animation every time and PC takes a beating. Is there a way to avoid this and bring back the "relieve tension" dialogue?

 

Also, when initiate sex with aldo, the animation is human/human sex animation, not canine animation.

[kapibar]

10 hours ago, enroger said:

I don't know if it is a bug or not, but when PC progress to 100 depravity & submission, the dialogue option "relieve tension" is no longer there, there is just this "Please rape me father" dialogue

This is not a bug, it's a deliberate change made by Monoman. (a strange one, honestly. It's hardly a rape if she asks for it)

Although I never encountered the problem that you're describing (single animation). Maybe you don't have enough animations with specific keyword?

Edited December 17, 2021 by kapibar

[milklover123]

6 hours ago, kapibar said:

This is not a bug, it's a deliberate change made by Monoman. (a strange one, honestly. It's hardly a rape if she asks for it)

Although I never encountered the problem that you're describing (single animation). Maybe you don't have enough animations with specific keyword?

 

I see, I prefer the PC says "do whatever you want" and then father randomly choose normal stuff or rough stuff....

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, enroger said:

 

I see, I prefer the PC says "do whatever you want" and then father randomly choose normal stuff or rough stuff....

Well, she already says that in the tension dialogue. I think MM wanted to highlight the fact that PC is willing to participate in any debauchery. However the phrasing he has chosen is rather... self-contradictory.

[safado]

On 12/16/2021 at 1:36 AM, Samson Nite said:

I am using SKSE64 2.0.17 & SE 1.5.97. On top of that, I installed SL 1.63 (not beta9).

After that, when I start the game, there is PapyrusUtil error saying you have outdated version than Papyrus 3.9, which is not true, as you said, SL 1.63 has already updated version of  PapyrusUtil.dll.

 

I hope you understand the situation now. This PapyrusUtil issue should not be happening in normal circumstances. I don't know why Ashal made this crappy issue.

So many people are complaining about Papyrus error and not fixed yet.....

 

I'm using SkyrimSE 1.5.97 and SKSE64 2.0.20.  (you have older SKSE64)

Sexlab 1.63Final(includes PapyrusUtil 3.9) deployed using mod manager VORTEX in a NTFS "hardlink" setup.

 

The only way I could break PapyrusUtils 3.9 and get the "cry" messages from mods using it, like Sexlab, is by let it be overwritten by old mods or new PapyrusUtil4.x. In my mod load list, the mod Campfire and Simply knock have old copies of PapyrusUtil that are incompatible with current mods.

PapyrusUtil4.x has a new DLL that needs SKSE64 2.1.x and will fail without it.  SKSE64 2.1.x is for Skyrim SE 1.6.x, aka AE.

 

There are no initialization issues with the PapyrusUtil3.9 copy from Sexlab 1.63Final.  It reports as version 3.9 and everything that use it in my load list works.

 

You and few others broke it with bad deployment practices and are complaining unnecessarily to Ashal about it.  She is working on 4.x for AE and do not need to support already years old and tested code for 3.9.  OsmelMC is working the Sexlab code.

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by safado

[Samson Nite]

5 hours ago, safado said:

 

I'm using SkyrimSE 1.5.97 and SKSE64 2.0.20.  (you have older SKSE64)

Sexlab 1.63Final(includes PapyrusUtil 3.9) deployed using mod manager VORTEX in a NTFS "hardlink" setup.

 

The only way I could break PapyrusUtils 3.9 and get the "cry" messages from mods using it, like Sexlab, is by let it be overwritten by old mods or new PapyrusUtil4.x. In my mod load list, the mod Campfire and Simply knock have old copies of PapyrusUtil that are incompatible with current mods.

PapyrusUtil4.x has a new DLL that needs SKSE64 2.1.x and will fail without it.  SKSE64 2.1.x is for Skyrim SE 1.6.x, aka AE.

 

There are no initialization issues with the PapyrusUtil3.9 copy from Sexlab 1.63Final.  It reports as version 3.9 and everything that use it in my load list works.

 

You and few others broke it with bad deployment practices and are complaining unnecessarily to Ashal about it.  She is working on 4.x for AE and do not need to support already years old and tested code for 3.9.  OsmelMC is working the Sexlab code.

 

 

My Skyrim SE1.5.97 game is not starting with SKSE64 2.0.20. Why is that? Game is not starting at all......

That is why I am still using SKSE64 2.0.17.

[safado]

9 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

My Skyrim SE1.5.97 game is not starting with SKSE64 2.0.20. Why is that? Game is not starting at all......

That is why I am still using SKSE64 2.0.17.

 

If your game is legal, then: (SKSE call Steam service for confirmation)

Make sure you are using FNIS Behavior 7.6 SE XXL. Make sure you have the latest SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) Currently at version 5.8.3 for SkyrimSE 1.5.

 

Review the skee64.log at "\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE" for issues with DLL not loading or incompatible.  

 

1. Download SKSE 2.0.20 7Z archive and extract the files to desktop.
2. The folder skse64_2_00_20 get created in desktop.
3. Open skse64_2_00_20 Folder.  Move the files to the game root folder, where SkyrimSE.exe, TESV.exe, and SkyrimSELauncher.exe are.

 

• Do not use a mod manager for installing SKSE.  If you do not know where the game is, you can right-click SkyrimSE in Steam Library and select "Manage\Browse Local Files".   (Do not press update)

 

Spoiler

 

 

After installing SKSE 2.0.20:

If you start the game with SKSE_launcher,

• If the game CTD, review the skee64.log again at "\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE" for issues with DLL not loading or incompatible.  
• If you start the game with SKSE_launcher, and it reaches the Menu, close the game and make sure nothing overwrite Sexlab (in the mod manager). Start the game with SKSE_Launcher and if the complaints about Papyrus are gone, close it again and review the mods that overwrite Sexlab. Only let it get overwritten by ed86's SLSO and last OsmelMC's "SexLab Utility Plus v2021-11-27". (if using those mods). Nothing else overwrite Sexlab.  Do not install SLSO or Sexlab Utility if you are not using them, make sure Sexlab works before trying something new. If you use Sexlab utility and SLSO, use version SLSO1.68, because SL utility is not properly compatible with newer SLSO.

Note: I use Vortex and do not remember how to set the famous "Mod manager 2" to prioritize mod files overwrite. I imagine is by loading last in the mod files section, Sexlab 1.63 goes to bottom? I guess. In the case of SKSE script files, do not let anything overwrite.

 

If you are using SL-Utility Plus for the first time in a game, you need to use the Sexlab MCM cleanup feature and when finish, do a save and reload.  Re-install using Sexlab MCM install button after reload.

 

Good luck.

 

 MO/MO2 PapyrusUtil possible solution by Monoman1:

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by safado
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[raeder87]

Is there any way to remove the gag from Mother's mouth so she can speak again? That "mmfpfp" and others dont add anything interesting and new to the atmosphere. Im curious that there will more in this later or she is just a decor element in a cage?

Edited December 19, 2021 by raeder87

[kapibar]

10 hours ago, raeder87 said:

Is there any way to remove the gag from Mother's mouth so she can speak again? That "mmfpfp" and others dont add anything interesting and new to the atmosphere. Im curious that there will more in this later or she is just a decor element in a cage?

The latter I suppose. Mother has no role after certain point. You could theoretically remove the gag via console command, but it would do you no good. She doesn't have anything interesting to say.

Edited December 20, 2021 by kapibar

[milklover123]

I don't know if Monoman1 is still working on this, just a suggestion.... I think it would be in father's character to pimp out the PC, a scene could be like father invite strangers into the home and negotiate price with them then let them do PC, PC gets to keep a percentage. Or maybe some jobs where the father send PC to perform "Home delivery"...

 

I know there're mods that handle prostitutions, but it would be great to have the father push/manipulate the PC into it.

[safado]

3 hours ago, raeder87 said:

Is there any way to remove the gag from Mother's mouth so she can speak again? That "mmfpfp" and others dont add anything interesting and new to the atmosphere. Im curious that there will more in this later or she is just a decor element in a cage?

 

Removing the gag may lead to a story path were “mother” derails “fathers” plans.  If you are up to it, you can create your own add-on overriding patch and add the modification and the dialogues, if it is good for you then you may share with the community, if you want. 

 

Thank you for stepping forward, the community is counting on you, no pressure. ?

?

Spoiler

I'm joking, there's no content for "mother" at that stage, but other mods may add generic out of context dialogue.

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by safado

[Samson Nite]

Is there any way to unplug "meal anal plug" that is left after the party is over. I am wondering why anal or vaginal plug stay in PC body even after party is over.

Is it bug or is used for other purpose?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Samson Nite said:

Is there any way to unplug "meal anal plug" that is left after the party is over. I am wondering why anal or vaginal plug stay in PC body even after party is over.

Is it bug or is used for other purpose?

Drop it seems to work.

[Samson Nite]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Drop it seems to work.

Great! Thanks!!!

[safado]

 

If you are using SLSO 1.7.x  (SkyrimSE).

 

I have experienced that during new game init of SLSO 1.7.x, the init process may deadlock Sexlab and cascade to other mods like ZAZ, DD, and YPS.

I initiated the game without SLSO.ESP enabled and after setting everything and 3 save reloads. Restarted with SLSO selected and tested with a manual triggered Sexlab Animation, and it executed properly.  If the init "deadlocks", sexlab MCM will be blank and likely to have more than 50 scripts suspended in papyrus' active script queue.

 

 

[Alis_999]

This mod are very fun, i like it, BUT there is a VERY BIG problem! With this mod it is impossible to get mini-quests from Ysolda to find the tusk, the search for Amren's sword, the search for Captain Wayfinder's fine-cut void salts and etc, etc, etc! Fix that please!

[rhino_4]

7 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

This mod are very fun, i like it, BUT there is a VERY BIG problem! With this mod it is impossible to get mini-quests from Ysolda to find the tusk, the search for Amren's sword, the search for Captain Wayfinder's fine-cut void salts and etc, etc, etc! Fix that please!

In my experience those quests start showing up once you complete the wartimes quest all the way through and wartimes is no longer active.

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

This mod are very fun, i like it, BUT there is a VERY BIG problem! With this mod it is impossible to get mini-quests from Ysolda to find the tusk, the search for Amren's sword, the search for Captain Wayfinder's fine-cut void salts and etc, etc, etc! Fix that please!

I assume you downloaded the "official" files. This is not the version you want to use. Instead download Monoman's tweaked version along with additional tweaks to YPS and Amputator Framework:
 

Now, original version of Wartimes from pchs had a bug that disabled misc quests and made it impossible to use shops. To counter this you need to enable Wartimes AFTER starting new game (save while in prison, quit the game, enable wartimes, load the game). But Monoman's version is free from this bug, so I highly recommend using it instead.

[divinefire]

I get the same thing with those dialogs not showing up. Almost all the time I can solve this by fast travel or caravan to another town and back again. Why does it fix it I have no idea except its modded skyrim lol. They will eventually show up but it might take days. I can not figure out how it disables or triggers them but I do know that I had this problem before wartimes was even in my load order. You can even search for skyrim bugs on google and it shows up long before most of loverslab mods existed with no real solution as to why. My guess its going out of order of the main story as I have yet been helgen or riverwood in many cases but even then they sometimes did show up or not. I just feel its not any particular mod that does it.

[Samson Nite]

I am just wondering PAHE_lives_on-8.0.4 SE and Diary of Mine is requirement for WT or have no link whatsoever with WT.....

[Alis_999]

11 hours ago, kapibar said:

I assume you downloaded the "official" files. This is not the version you want to use. Instead download Monoman's tweaked version along with additional tweaks to YPS and Amputator Framework:
 

Now, original version of Wartimes from pchs had a bug that disabled misc quests and made it impossible to use shops. To counter this you need to enable Wartimes AFTER starting new game (save while in prison, quit the game, enable wartimes, load the game). But Monoman's version is free from this bug, so I highly recommend using it instead.

I stay near to Ysolda and she have her Mammoth Tusk quest -> i close the game -> turn on Wartimes -> run FNIS -> run Skyrim -> load the save -> aaand Mammoth Tusk quest disappears. And Wartimes Tweaked 9.2 i have

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Alis_999 said:

I stay near to Ysolda and she have her Mammoth Tusk quest -> i close the game -> turn on Wartimes -> run FNIS -> run Skyrim -> load the save -> aaand Mammoth Tusk quest disappears. And Wartimes Tweaked 9.2 i have

Ysolda's quest is widely considered to be a canary in the coalmine - if something's fucky with your Skyrim, this quest will be the first to fall. Wartimes has been known for screwing up quests, it is not inconceivable that it still causes some issues. However I'm quite certain that Ysolda's quest will be fine after fast travelling from Whiterun and back again. So, the first thing you want to do is to use fast travel to any other hold and go back to Ysolda. And yes, this is true for my setup as well, Ysolda's quest will appear only if I fast travel. @divinefire I'm willing to bet that this has something to do with the fact that the game was not designed to start in Whiterun, the player isn't supposed to freely enter the city just like any other hold.

[rhino_4]

I have a small issue. After killing father I'm locked out of the house. But my character refuses to change clothes without being in her room. Soooo is there a fix for this or a way to turn that feature off?

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, rhino_4 said:

I have a small issue. After killing father I'm locked out of the house. But my character refuses to change clothes without being in her room. Soooo is there a fix for this or a way to turn that feature off?

It's the modesty function added in the recent update. Just increase your depravity via console command and you're good to go (set pchsPCDepravity to 100).

[rhino_4]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

It's the modesty function added in the recent update. Just increase your depravity via console command and you're good to go (set pchsPCDepravity to 100).

Legend. Thanks dude.