Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[rhino_4]

On 12/10/2021 at 2:41 AM, kapibar said:

There's a mirror in the PC's room where you can check if you meet his current requirements.

I looked for this mirror and couldn't find it. I also checked the wartimes esp with additem and couldn't find it there either. Does it require a seperate mod? I should note that I'm not using yps immersive fashion in my load order.

[lcewolf]

6 hours ago, Cerral said:

 

 

This quote comes from this mod. It appears in the quest for supply if you don't wear the hood the father gives you.

As for finding where it is to translate it, if you use ESP-ESM translator you can find it in "SCPT" "EDID" pchsSupplyrun.
In the comments window at the bottom of the program, you will see debug.Notification(Npc.GetLeveledActorBase().GetName() + "saw me naked ....

Some option only appear when you have other mod install even if it use and it's write in wartimes.

 

The option for like milking don't appear if the mod is not install.

It's the reason why i think you should look with the other mod for the source. The base line depend problably from another

mod. But it's my humble opinion.

 

Public whore need as a soft requirement Sexlab Sexual Fame. When people see you naked or getting fucked you reputation(Fame) increase.

When you walk naked with wartimes or someone see you have ''fun'' outside you get that kind of message on the screen.

 

If you don't have it you need to start the quest with the other option in public whore.

 

My guess is you probably won't see those message if you don't have Sexlab sexual fame.

Edited December 13, 2021 by lcewolf

[safado]

8 hours ago, enroger said:

 

The MCM menu is not showing up? Edit: NVM, The  MCM showed up after I reinstall it again

 

I looked into the MCM, it saids manual start already started, but I read the diary then talk to mother and father but there were no dialog

I tried to use debug option and toggle manual start quest, it immediately CTD

 

Make sure ZAZ is version 8 PLUS. Not breaking, but it needs UIExtensions. Remove/deactivate the Wartime voiced add-on, it will override the NPC with old script parameters that break Wartime.

Also,

You may have a mod messing things in papyrus. 

  Use ReSaver to look into the save file for Active Script and suspend stack spamming.  More than 50 scripts in the queue that do not go away after a while playing is a signal of something mess up. (comparing multiple saves). 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by safado

[safado]

On 12/11/2021 at 2:40 PM, TarnisMartell said:

Might be a dumb question but...

I m translating the whole thing (the esp is complete)

but I cant find the interface/translation file anywhere

theres the notifications like "xy saw me naked. reputation decreased" and alike.

does anyone know where to change that?

thank you

 

It is part of the script monitoring the "Supply Run" Quest/Task game state, and all the messages are hard-coded.

 

 

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, rhino_4 said:

I looked for this mirror and couldn't find it. I also checked the wartimes esp with additem and couldn't find it there either. Does it require a seperate mod?

Nah, man, it's just... let's say incospicuous. On the top of the bedside cabinet in PC's room you'll find something like a silver platter standing on its edge - this is the mirror. You just have to activate it and it will show you your current status.
 

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I should note that I'm not using yps immersive fashion in my load order.

Then you should consider adding it. YPS has been a requirement for a long time. It's conceivable that excluding it will cause a ton of problems.

Edited December 13, 2021 by kapibar

[milklover123]

7 hours ago, safado said:

 

Make sure ZAZ is version 8 PLUS. Not breaking, but it needs UIExtensions. Remove/deactivate the Wartime voiced add-on, it will override the NPC with old script parameters that break Wartime.

Also,

You may have a mod messing things in papyrus. 

  Use ReSaver to look into the save file for Active Script and suspend stack spamming.  More than 50 scripts in the queue that do not go away after a while playing is a signal of something mess up. (comparing multiple saves). 

 

 

 

It worked! Turns out I have a older version of ZAZ. Thanks!

[milklover123]

On 12/6/2021 at 5:42 PM, The-Raven said:

I know how to go on errands. The problem is that going on errands, giving Father food/drink and so on doesn't actually change the favour level at all. And paying him to help mother also does not increase the amount of days mother has left. 

 

As for cleaning, no such option appears, even while looking directly at the dirt piles.

 

Update: I found that the problem occured because I had not updated Papyrus Extender for a while, in addition to letting Sexlab SE overwrite some small files from Papyrus Extender. Updating PE and making sure it was not overwritten was all I needed to do to get it working properly. ^^

 

Hi, I have the exact same problem as you running the SE version. I tried installing the latest papyrus extender but it didn't work, can you describe exactly how you solved the problem?

[rhino_4]

11 hours ago, kapibar said:

Then you should consider adding it. YPS has been a requirement for a long time. It's conceivable that excluding it will cause a ton of problems.

Is there a specific list of required mods? The only things the esp says it requires are sexlab and zaz, and the links from monoman don't make it clear whether his updated wartimes  version requires things like SD+ or slavetats. Is the YPS version modded by monoman the only one that works, or does "immersive hair growth and styling" work as well?

[Balgin]

3 minutes ago, rhino_4 said:

Is there a specific list of required mods? The only things the esp says it requires are sexlab and zaz, and the links from monoman don't make it clear whether his updated wartimes  version requires things like SD+ or slavetats. Is the YPS version modded by monoman the only one that works, or does "immersive hair growth and styling" work as well?

 

From my notes:

 

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Hard Core Requirements
SexLab, Dawnguard, HearthFires, Dragonborn, ZazAnimationPack, Alternate Start, Amputator, SD+, Simple Slavery, I'll take the Display Model (dcc-dm2), SD Cages, Devious Devices Expansion, SkyUI, Beeing Female

SD Cages requires Sd Patches, Sd Patches requires Skyrim Utility Mod, Skyrim Utility Mod requires  UI Extensions (UIE)* (also used for YPS)
check load order

recommended load order
SUM
SDc
SD+
SDP
 

Removed Display Model as a hard dependency.
Removed SD cages as a master.
Made Amputator framework a soft dependency.
UI extension is sort of required now.

 If YPS Fashion Tweak v1.5 is installed: father will gradually increase demands that you improve your appearance after giving you the maid outfit. Spoilers: Stage 1: Eyeshadow & lipstick, Stage 2: Finger and toe nail polish, Stage 3: Pubic hair trimming and stockings. Failing to meet father's expectations will decrease favour . Smudged makeup will decrease favour . You'll periodically be rewarded with gold to supplement the cost if your appearance satisfies father.
- YPS: Father will like when your hair gets longer and conversely dislike if your hair gets cut for whatever reason (SLS rape cuts).
- RapeTats: Submissive sluts can ask their Father to mark them like the slut they are in exchange for favour. (once per day. Sub >= 10).
- Hair colour script fixes. Father will demand a new hair colour to straighten things out.
Added an 'UI extension' menu with some useful information/options.
Added a 'mirror' in your room so you can check your Immersive Fashion stats out and make sure you're in proper order for Father. (I do not see the mirror)
At level 3 fashion demands you'll also have to wear heels.
You should be able to wear regular heels in place of Father's slave heels now. (check Myrtles)
Killing Father will complete quest objectives. (check this too)
No UI key until servitude starts.

 

Recommended mods for 'full' experience

2x Tweaks above.

A pregnancy mod - Either Fertility Mode or Beeing Female

Fill Her Up Baka edition

Devious Devices Expansion

SL Survival

Milk Mod Economy

Optional - 'Time Passes' or 'Living Takes Time' to make tasks like cooking take time.

Bathing in Skyrim Tweaked

A mod that makes cum last longer - Maybe Sexlab Cum Overlays.

 

[safado]

1 hour ago, enroger said:

 

Hi, I have the exact same problem as you running the SE version. I tried installing the latest papyrus extender but it didn't work, can you describe exactly how you solved the problem?

 

Just an idea:

Check your version of PapyrusUtil SE.  Sexlab SE 1.63 or newer has PapyrusUtil 4.x integrated.  Do not overwrite with older Nexus version or versions from any other mod.  It breaks Sexlab and maybe PapyrusUtil.   

 

Sexlab SE 1.63 version always overwrite any mod that has the following files included:

• \Scripts\
  • ActorUtil.pex
  • JsonUtil.pex
  • MiscUtil.pex
  • ObjectUtil.pex
  • PapyrusUtil.pex
  • StorageUtil.pex
• \SKSE\
  • \Plugins\
    • PapyrusUtil.dll    (this depends on SKSE version, Sexlab's compatibility with SKSE version also includes this file)

 

Wartime and many mods uses those functions, make sure is not overwritten by older versions in Skyrim SE.

 

 

 

[milklover123]

40 minutes ago, safado said:

 

Just an idea:

Check your version of PapyrusUtil SE.  Sexlab SE 1.63 or newer has PapyrusUtil 4.x integrated.  Do not overwrite with older Nexus version or versions from any other mod.  It breaks Sexlab and maybe PapyrusUtil.   

 

Sexlab SE 1.63 version always overwrite any mod that has the following files included:

• \Scripts\
  • ActorUtil.pex
  • JsonUtil.pex
  • MiscUtil.pex
  • ObjectUtil.pex
  • PapyrusUtil.pex
  • StorageUtil.pex
• \SKSE\
  • \Plugins\
    • PapyrusUtil.dll    (this depends on SKSE version, Sexlab's compatibility with SKSE version also includes this file)

 

Wartime and many mods uses those functions, make sure is not overwritten by older versions in Skyrim SE.

 

 

 

 

I reinstalled Sexlab SE 1.63 SE and overwrite everything, but the problem persist.

 

Just to check, I got papyrus extender from nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22854  Is this the right one?

[safado]

30 minutes ago, enroger said:

 

I reinstalled Sexlab SE 1.63 SE and overwrite everything, but the problem persist.

 

Just to check, I got papyrus extender from nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22854  Is this the right one?

 

 

Wartimes do not need it, but some of your mods may need it. 

 

As long, you do not update to AE 1.6, install the Papyrus Extender SE version.   If too late, then downgrade Skyrim AE(SE 1.6) to 1.5 using the Nexus downgrade mod, disable the new CC from Bethesda, and good luck with that.

 

Address Library for SKSE Plugins (for SSE)
Visual C++ Redistributables (2015/2017/2019)

 

[milklover123]

29 minutes ago, safado said:

 

 

Wartimes do not need it, but some of your mods may need it. 

 

As long, you do not update to AE 1.6, install the Papyrus Extender SE version.   If too late, then downgrade Skyrim AE(SE 1.6) to 1.5 using the Nexus downgrade mod, disable the new CC from Bethesda, and good luck with that.

 

Address Library for SKSE Plugins (for SSE)
Visual C++ Redistributables (2015/2017/2019)

 

 

I'm using SE runtime 1.5.7, and I reinstalled the things you mentioned, still no joy

 

Does mod require SD plus to run? I skipped it because I didn't want to bloat my game.

[kapibar]

20 hours ago, enroger said:

 

I'm using SE runtime 1.5.7, and I reinstalled the things you mentioned, still no joy

 

Does mod require SD plus to run? I skipped it because I didn't want to bloat my game.

I believe it'll run just fine. However, there are two scenarios that depend on SD, so they'll be unavailable, obviously.

[milklover123]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:55 AM, safado said:

 

 

Wartimes do not need it, but some of your mods may need it. 

 

As long, you do not update to AE 1.6, install the Papyrus Extender SE version.   If too late, then downgrade Skyrim AE(SE 1.6) to 1.5 using the Nexus downgrade mod, disable the new CC from Bethesda, and good luck with that.

 

Address Library for SKSE Plugins (for SSE)
Visual C++ Redistributables (2015/2017/2019)

 

 

It works now, turns out I have to reinstall the mod with a clean save to clear the issue. Thanks for the help!

[Samson Nite]

2 hours ago, enroger said:

 

It works now, turns out I have to reinstall the mod with a clean save to clear the issue. Thanks for the help!

I have the same problem with papyrusutil.dll update warning with new SL frame 1.63 install from 1.63 beta9.

Can you tell me how you fix them ? 

Do you mean you start new game after install SF 1.63?

[milklover123]

1 hour ago, Samson Nite said:

I have the same problem with papyrusutil.dll update warning with new SL frame 1.63 install from 1.63 beta9.

Can you tell me how you fix them ? 

Do you mean you start new game after install SF 1.63?

 

Yes, reinstall Sexlab 1.63 first, make sure you have a clean save file without Wartime (you can uninstall wartime and make a new save). Then install wartime and load the clean save, this fixed it for me.

[Samson Nite]

3 minutes ago, enroger said:

 

Yes, reinstall Sexlab 1.63 first, make sure you have a clean save file without Wartime (you can uninstall wartime and make a new save). Then install wartime and load the clean save, this fixed it for me.

I did. I installed SF1.63 and opened the saved game before to start WT. And it still shows warning the papyrus......

[Samson Nite]

O sorry. WT needs to be installed after SF 1.63 update ?

[milklover123]

7 minutes ago, Samson Nite said:

O sorry. WT needs to be installed after SF 1.63 update ?

 

Sorry, not sure what you refer to as SF 1.63, you mean Sexlab 1.63?

 

Anyway, you just need to make sure you have the latest papyrusutil.dll and scripts, you can just copy the SKSE and Script folder from Sexlab 1.63 and overwrite everything.

 

Then you need a clean save file, because a save file with wartime running without the latest papyrusutil is corrupted. Just save the game after uninstalling Wartime.

 

Then reinstall wartime and load the clean save file.

[Samson Nite]

Got ya, I will try it ! 

[safado]

12 hours ago, enroger said:

 

Sorry, not sure what you refer to as SF 1.63, you mean Sexlab 1.63?

 

Anyway, you just need to make sure you have the latest papyrusutil.dll and scripts, you can just copy the SKSE and Script folder from Sexlab 1.63 and overwrite everything.

 

Then you need a clean save file, because a save file with wartime running without the latest papyrusutil is corrupted. Just save the game after uninstalling Wartime.

 

Then reinstall wartime and load the clean save file.

 

@Samson Nite @enroger

 

Is always good to also review & clean the save with the last version of ReSaver.  

Orphans entries may persist during the save "clean" process and may corrupt the save after a while.

 

Do it after creating a new save without the plugin you want "cleaned" out.  You can also try the ReSaver purge "cleaning" method, but the global values may persist with that one.

 

Fallrim Tools

Spoiler

ReSaver - the savefile cleaner

ReSaver is a savefile editor, based loosely on the excellent user interface of SaveTool. It works with Skyrim Special Edition, Skyrim Legendary Edition, Skyrim Legendary Edition + Crash Fixes, and Fallout 4.

There are already two Very Good savefile editors out there; Save Game Script Cleaner (aka SaveTool), and Savegame Script Scalpel. I use them both and they are fantastic. They do have their problems though. Script Scalpel has a difficult UI and is a bit slow. SaveTool has quite limited filtering options. And at the time I'm writing this, neither of them can load savefiles from Skyrim Special Edition or that use the new file format introduced in Crash Fixes 10. And they can't handle Fallout 4. ReSaver is intended to correct those problems while adding useful new features for cleaning saves.

Features

• Reads and writes Skyrim SE, Skyrim LE, and Fallout 4 savefiles
• Reads and writes the new Crash Fixes savefile format
• Displays a TONS of useful information
• Edits script data
• Terminates threads (right-click on an ActiveScript and pick "Terminate")

Mod Parsing

 

• Reads your ESM/ESP/PEX/BSA files looking for information that will help
• identify which parts of the savefile are the ones that you're looking.
• Just pick "Parse" from the File menu.
• Works best if you use Mod Organizer.

Filtering

 

• Filter using regex (regular expressions)
• Filter by plugin (right-click on a plugin)
• Filter by mod (right-click on a plugin)
• Filter to show what would be deleted by each cleaning operation

Cleaning

 

• Deletes unattached script instances (in the "Clean" menu)
• Deletes undefined elements (in the "Clean" menu)
• Cleans formlists
• Deletes plugin data

Not yet implemented

 

• Exporting and importing savefile data
• Cleaning of Havok data
• Filtering scripts with invalid data
• Analyzing mods managed by Nexus Mod Manager or Wrye Bash

ReSaver is quite stable and I use it myself. I have hundreds of mods, including dozens of major quest mods. I NEED a serious save editor. That's why I wrote one. I can't promise that it's perfect. It's possible that it will ruin your savefile, hard drive, childhood, and kidneys. In other words, there is no guarantee of fitness for any particular purpose, etc. But it's pretty good.

Instructions
See the Videos section on the Skyrim Special Edition page for more detailed instructions.
Getting started:

 

1. Unzip the FallrimTools archive somewhere.
2. Double-click on ReSaver.exe.
3. Choose your savefile.
4. You should see a tree structure that has all of the save's script elements.
5. The #1 thing that most people need is to remove script instances that are not attached to anything.
6. Go to the "Clean" menu and select "Show Unattached Instances". This will filter the list and show only the script instances that aren't attached to anything.
7. Go to the "Clean" menu and select "Remove Unattached Instances".
8. Save to a new file.
9. Load your savefile in Skyrim/Fallout and make sure it's working properly

 

 

[Samson Nite]

Finally I nailed it! The issue for SL Framework 1.63 installation issue on Papyrus Utility 3.9 warning was actually the file in script "sslSystemConfig.pex" .

I installed everything in SL 1.63 except this file. And there is no warning after installation. I kept old version of SL 1.63beta9 for this file.

 

And before WT start, I just ran SL 1.63 regardless save game, old 1.63beta9 is gone now. So, it doesn't matter new game or save game.

 

My only problem is whether this file "sslSystemConfig.pex" will cause any problem in the future to play game for WT or not.

 

Can any body answer for this? Or any guideline or any solution to fix this file? Or Am I just stupid to blame this file ......

[safado]

4 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

Finally I nailed it! The issue for SL Framework 1.63 installation issue on Papyrus Utility 3.9 warning was actually the file in script "sslSystemConfig.pex" .

I installed everything in SL 1.63 except this file. And there is no warning after installation. I kept old version of SL 1.63beta9 for this file.

 

And before WT start, I just ran SL 1.63 regardless save game, old 1.63beta9 is gone now. So, it doesn't matter new game or save game.

 

My only problem is whether this file "sslSystemConfig.pex" will cause any problem in the future to play game for WT or not.

 

Can any body answer for this? Or any guideline or any solution to fix this file? Or Am I just stupid to blame this file ......

 

I do not understand your problem. 

You do not need to remove any files from Sexlab. If it is complaining about PapyrusUtil is because you overwrote with older version or incompatible PapyrusUtil.dll.

 

Are you overwriting sexlab with another PapyrusUtil?  What version?  Sexlab 1.63 already has a PapyrusUtil newer than 3.9, but still report 3.9.

If you install Papyrus utility 4.2 it will be incompatible because the DLL is for Skyrim 1.6.342 and SKSE 2.1.4+.

 

 

This is from PapyrusUtil 4.0 change log, but PapyrusUtil in Sexlab 1.63 has the same functions added and still compatible with SKSE64 2.0.17 & SkyrimSE 1.5.97.

Spoiler

4.0 AE - 11/19/2021
Updated for SKSE AE build 2.1.2
Added RemoveDupe(), GetDiff(), and GetMatching() functions to PapyrusUtil.psc
Fixed JsonUtil returning wrong form value when the associated plugin is unloaded.

 

 

 

 

[Samson Nite]

44 minutes ago, safado said:

 

I do not understand your problem. 

You do not need to remove any files from Sexlab. If it is complaining about PapyrusUtil is because you overwrote with older version or incompatible PapyrusUtil.dll.

 

Are you overwriting sexlab with another PapyrusUtil?  What version?  Sexlab 1.63 already has a PapyrusUtil newer than 3.9, but still report 3.9.

If you install Papyrus utility 4.2 it will be incompatible because the DLL is for Skyrim 1.6.342 and SKSE 2.1.4+.

 

 

This is from PapyrusUtil 4.0 change log, but PapyrusUtil in Sexlab 1.63 has the same functions added and still compatible with SKSE64 2.0.17 & SkyrimSE 1.5.97.

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4.0 AE - 11/19/2021
Updated for SKSE AE build 2.1.2
Added RemoveDupe(), GetDiff(), and GetMatching() functions to PapyrusUtil.psc
Fixed JsonUtil returning wrong form value when the associated plugin is unloaded.

 

 

 

 

I am using SKSE64 2.0.17 & SE 1.5.97. On top of that, I installed SL 1.63 (not beta9).

After that, when I start the game, there is PapyrusUtil error saying you have outdated version than Papyrus 3.9, which is not true, as you said, SL 1.63 has already updated version of  PapyrusUtil.dll.

 

I hope you understand the situation now. This PapyrusUtil issue should not be happening in normal circumstances. I don't know why Ashal made this crappy issue.

So many people are complaining about Papyrus error and not fixed yet.....