Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Skyrim1999]

Is there a way to disable the amputator options for this mod?

[TarnisMartell]

I once put on the "mask of shame" but I cannot ever remove it since.

I also tried like 20 times to ask father for it and pay with favors but nothing ever happens ( I got plenty of favs).

there MUST be a way to lose that shit thing, it completely ruins my game.

[fred200]

16 minutes ago, TarnisMartell said:

I once put on the "mask of shame" but I cannot ever remove it since.

I also tried like 20 times to ask father for it and pay with favors but nothing ever happens ( I got plenty of favs).

there MUST be a way to lose that shit thing, it completely ruins my game.

 

There is nothing that you can do through the console or DD MCM that gets rid of it.

If you do remove it through the console - the damn thing just comes back.

 

[TarnisMartell]

4 minutes ago, fred200 said:

 

There is nothing that you can do through the console or DD MCM that gets rid of it.

If you do remove it through the console - the damn thing just comes back.

 

yeah so... someone was smart enough to even block console commands...

and the mod itself blocks me from removing it like its supposed to... and I ll do... what now exactly?

Edited December 8, 2021 by TarnisMartell

[fred200]

21 minutes ago, TarnisMartell said:

yeah so... someone was smart enough to even block console commands...

and the mod itself blocks me from removing it like its supposed to... and I ll do... what now exactly?

 

Do what I do. Wear it and pretend it is not there.

And next playthrough - don't ever put it on.

[TarnisMartell]

16 minutes ago, fred200 said:

 

Do what I do. Wear it and pretend it is not there.

And next playthrough - don't ever put it on.

no freakin way.

3 hours was only bareable becaus I was convinced it might come off eventually.

but whoever made this thing immortal to removal is a freakin maniac. killed 3 exhausting hours of gameplay for me.

not having a way out is madness.

[kapibar]

39 minutes ago, TarnisMartell said:

no freakin way.

3 hours was only bareable becaus I was convinced it might come off eventually.

but whoever made this thing immortal to removal is a freakin maniac. killed 3 exhausting hours of gameplay for me.

not having a way out is madness.

Also @fred200

There are multiple ways to get out of DD, including console. First get rid of everything in your inventory, so it'll be easier to identify what's what. Then type player.showinventory. Usually DD's are double equipped - first there's "normal" item (in this case the mask of shame), then there's a second equipped item with a strange ID. The trick is that you have to remove BOTH with player.removeitem, it sometimes takes more than one try, but it works. And this is just the first solution, there are few more. You can also spawn skeleton key in your inventory (though I'm not sure if this is not a functionality of Devious Lore). Using it will remove all the equipped devices. You can also spawn your normal restraints key. Also there's an option to struggle out of the device, or lockpick it (saving before attempt pretty much nullifies attempt cooldown). DD's MCM has a debugging option that removes all the devices (under terminate all DD quests I believe). If you're using Slaverun - there's an MCM option to remove specific devices. There's also a mod callled DD escape overhaul on LL, it makes struggling out of devices more fun.

Edited December 8, 2021 by kapibar

[TarnisMartell]

11 hours ago, kapibar said:

Also @fred200

There are multiple ways to get out of DD, including console. First get rid of everything in your inventory, so it'll be easier to identify what's what. Then type player.showinventory. Usually DD's are double equipped - first there's "normal" item (in this case the mask of shame), then there's a second equipped item with a strange ID. The trick is that you have to remove BOTH with player.removeitem, it sometimes takes more than one try, but it works. And this is just the first solution, there are few more. You can also spawn skeleton key in your inventory (though I'm not sure if this is not a functionality of Devious Lore). Using it will remove all the equipped devices. You can also spawn your normal restraints key. Also there's an option to struggle out of the device, or lockpick it (saving before attempt pretty much nullifies attempt cooldown). DD's MCM has a debugging option that removes all the devices (under terminate all DD quests I believe). If you're using Slaverun - there's an MCM option to remove specific devices. There's also a mod callled DD escape overhaul on LL, it makes struggling out of devices more fun.

actually, none of that was true. -for this device

this mask ist not a normal item and has no regular ID.

so of course I dropped everything and tried to remove it all (3 weird IDs were left over) by console.

several times. and thats when I decided to start asking here. (I think the use of console was already mentioned there).

 

none of this is fun, and thats my point.

I had no idea it would be unremovable - especially since there is an option in the conversations with "father" which turned out to simply not work.

I am absolutely not into this and probably not the only person here, therefore I think there should be an option to remove it or a fair warning for wearing this to be permanent und unremovable for the rest of the playthrough.

 

so last resort: throw away several hours of gameplay and restart.
its 2021, this shouldnt be necessary I think...

[kapibar]

17 minutes ago, TarnisMartell said:

actually, none of that was true. -for this device

this mask ist not a normal item and has no regular ID.

 

That's true for most of the devious stuff, they're quite difficult to get rid of via console. Nonetheless, it can be done.

As for the mask - this is more or less a quest related item. Father will not remove it via normal dialogue, he should however remove it after the supply run. There are rare instances in which the removal fails, I suspect this is what happened to you.

Out of sheer curiosity I checked if Devious Device's Terminate DD quest option works against the mask of shame and it does. I also tried forcing the console removal of the item just to be sure, and this worked too - player.removeallitems, then player.removeitem xxx1e69b "1", followed by player.removeitem xxx1e69a "1". So this should work for you, too.

[fred200]

I am on SE. I can say that none of this works on SE. The damn mask is permanent.

[kapibar]

3 minutes ago, fred200 said:

I am on SE. I can say that none of this works on SE. The damn mask is permanent.

Ah, so here's the problem.

The mask - from what I recall, I might be wrong on this - is a part of DD Expansion, so it'd probably be best if you ask in a proper support thread. I have no clue how DD works on SE.

[fred200]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Ah, so here's the problem.

The mask - from what I recall, I might be wrong on this - is a part of DD Expansion, so it'd probably be best if you ask in a proper support thread. I have no clue how DD works on SE.

 

DD does just fine making the mask removeable.

The problem is that this mod re-equips it. I wound up with a stack of 10 masks at my feet, in one of my futile attempts to get rid of it.

[kapibar]

12 minutes ago, fred200 said:

 

DD does just fine making the mask removeable.

The problem is that this mod re-equips it. I wound up with a stack of 10 masks at my feet, in one of my futile attempts to get rid of it.

I'm not familiar with the SE version, but from what I've gathered it's basically the same as the LE version which I'm using. And this mod does not equip the mask, you do it yourself. When it's on, it's the devious effect that prevents you from removing it.

Please answer the following questions:
- Does the DD debug option remove the hood?
- Does the restraints key remove the hood?
- Can you struggle/lockpick the device?
- Does the Cursed Loot debug remove the hood?

Edited December 9, 2021 by kapibar

[audhol]

To add to this I'm using the se version v9.2 and I've never had an issue with the mask, I equip it the first time father chucks me out of the house then when the supply run is succsefully completed father automatically removes the mask after i chose the line "Father I've fetched the supplies you asked for" Whatever the issue is its not a problem of the SE conversion as I simply ran the latest version through CAO myself. I have noticed that fast traveling causes the quest to fail but in that case the mask is automatically unequiped.

[kapibar]

7 minutes ago, audhol said:

I have noticed that fast traveling causes the quest to fail but in that case the mask is automatically unequiped.

The quest has a time limit and fast travel is actually very time consuming. But yes, the mask is unequipped on fail.

However - like I mentioned earlier - there are occasional errors when the mask is unequipped and re-equipped immediately, it happens 1/5-10 times, most probably caused by dialogue skip.

[rhino_4]

I have a question:

"father is unappy i'm not wearing his accessories"

How can I find out what accessories he wants my character to wear? Also, during scenes where it says "they remove the plugs", are they supposed to always return them afterwards?

[kapibar]

9 hours ago, rhino_4 said:

How can I find out what accessories he wants my character to wear?

There's a mirror in the PC's room where you can check if you meet his current requirements.

 

 

9 hours ago, rhino_4 said:

Also, during scenes where it says "they remove the plugs", are they supposed to always return them afterwards?

This notification is from a different mod. But they should be returned afterwards.

[TarnisMartell]

Might be a dumb question but...

I m translating the whole thing (the esp is complete)

but I cant find the interface/translation file anywhere

theres the notifications like "xy saw me naked. reputation decreased" and alike.

does anyone know where to change that?

thank you

[excidium93]

23 minutes ago, TarnisMartell said:

theres the notifications like "xy saw me naked. reputation decreased" and alike.

does anyone know where to change that?

 

I think these things are "hardcoded" within the scripts

Edited December 11, 2021 by excidium93

[milklover123]

Hi, I can't start the mod in SE (using wartime tweak 9.2 SE)? I have the option in live another life dialog, but choosing it does nothing, can't sleep on the bed.

 

I don't know if I'm missing dependency, I have ZZ, all the required sexlab mods, fertility mode.

[safado]

5 hours ago, enroger said:

Hi, I can't start the mod in SE (using wartime tweak 9.2 SE)? I have the option in live another life dialog, but choosing it does nothing, can't sleep on the bed.

 

I don't know if I'm missing dependency, I have ZZ, all the required sexlab mods, fertility mode.

 

You can test by trying any not hardcore entry in "live another life" and use the bed.  After starting the selected "begin" use the manual start in the MCM Wartime menu.

 

 

[milklover123]

1 hour ago, safado said:

 

You can test by trying any not hardcore entry in "live another life" and use the bed.  After starting the selected "begin" use the manual start in the MCM Wartime menu.

 

 

 

The MCM menu is not showing up? Edit: NVM, The  MCM showed up after I reinstall it again

 

I looked into the MCM, it saids manual start already started, but I read the diary then talk to mother and father but there were no dialog

I tried to use debug option and toggle manual start quest, it immediately CTD

Edited December 12, 2021 by enroger

[lcewolf]

On 12/9/2021 at 4:00 AM, kapibar said:

That's true for most of the devious stuff, they're quite difficult to get rid of via console. Nonetheless, it can be done.

As for the mask - this is more or less a quest related item. Father will not remove it via normal dialogue, he should however remove it after the supply run. There are rare instances in which the removal fails, I suspect this is what happened to you.

Out of sheer curiosity I checked if Devious Device's Terminate DD quest option works against the mask of shame and it does. I also tried forcing the console removal of the item just to be sure, and this worked too - player.removeallitems, then player.removeitem xxx1e69b "1", followed by player.removeitem xxx1e69a "1". So this should work for you, too.

I try it and it work well With LE

[lcewolf]

On 12/11/2021 at 2:40 PM, TarnisMartell said:

Might be a dumb question but...

I m translating the whole thing (the esp is complete)

but I cant find the interface/translation file anywhere

theres the notifications like "xy saw me naked. reputation decreased" and alike.

does anyone know where to change that?

thank you

You are probably looking at the wrong mod.

 

I am pretty sure i see this message came from the mod Sexlab_RelationshipDialoguesystem_2dot6 and Sexlab approach Redux.

I see it often when i play Trouble of heroine and Submissive Lola and my character is forced to remain naked.

 

You can also look with Sexlab sexual Fame and sexlab aroused.

 

[Cerral]

22 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

You are probably looking at the wrong mod.

 

I am pretty sure i see this message came from the mod Sexlab_RelationshipDialoguesystem_2dot6 and Sexlab approach Redux.

I see it often when i play Trouble of heroine and Submissive Lola and my character is forced to remain naked.

 

You can also look with Sexlab sexual Fame and sexlab aroused.

 

 

On 12/11/2021 at 8:40 PM, TarnisMartell said:

Might be a dumb question but...

I m translating the whole thing (the esp is complete)

but I cant find the interface/translation file anywhere

theres the notifications like "xy saw me naked. reputation decreased" and alike.

does anyone know where to change that?

thank you

 

This quote comes from this mod. It appears in the quest for supply if you don't wear the hood the father gives you.

As for finding where it is to translate it, if you use ESP-ESM translator you can find it in "SCPT" "EDID" pchsSupplyrun.
In the comments window at the bottom of the program, you will see debug.Notification(Npc.GetLeveledActorBase().GetName() + "saw me naked ....