Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[leakim]

This took longer than I care to admit, but hey, at least now I can compile Wartimes.

 

Script is completely untested, I just added the two new tags.  

 

Also please note that a lot of modders misspell "aggressive" in their tags.

pchsWartimesSt200ServeRough.pex

[manafalls]

2 hours ago, audhol said:

I wanted to open up more animations for the "Do with my body as you please, father." stage of the pchswartimes quest by adding aditional tags into this script

 

Am I correct in assuming it needs 2 of those tags to pick the animation?

Anyway me being a noobnumpty with CK I can't get it to compile so is it possible for someone to compile it with the aggressive and dirty tags added please?

 

Even better, is there any way to read the animation tags from a json file, so they can be customized at will?

 

[Monoman1]

35 minutes ago, manafalls said:

Even better, is there any way to read the animation tags from a json file, so they can be customized at will?

Most sex retrieves tags via SexTags.json. There are probably some I've missed though. 

3 hours ago, audhol said:

Am I correct in assuming it needs 2 of those tags to pick the animation?

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

[Straze]

Thanks for the great mod, I've a suggestion for when mother dies.

 

When the mother dies the PC will be traumatised, so when she drinks an alcoholic substance (wine/ale etc) there is a chance for her to go into an "emotional state" and become unresponsive allowing for nearby character(s) to approach her and trigger an event (events from good > bad: based on Submission/depravity stats).

Alcoholic drinks can be avoided, but maybe Party or other tasks could have the PC drink something?

 

p.s. I have been considering using YPS or a pregnancy mod but was wondering how much Pregnancy ties into the quests. Asking cuz I read somewhere that Pregnancy mods + FHU can create problems because of the body scaling. 
Also this is the correct version for SE (there are so many files spread out on the forums)? YPS SE

Edited August 1, 2022 by Straze

[kapibar]

4 hours ago, Straze said:

p.s. I have been considering using YPS or a pregnancy mod but was wondering how much Pregnancy ties into the quests. Asking cuz I read somewhere that Pregnancy mods + FHU can create problems because of the body scaling.

Can't say anything about compatibility with FHU, but maybe SLIF could manage that. Pregnancy is a rather big part of the mod. So is the YPS, so if you want full experience, you should consider adding both. Also, pregnancy acts as a friendly introduction to MME.

Edited August 1, 2022 by kapibar

[audhol]

7 hours ago, leakim said:

This took longer than I care to admit, but hey, at least now I can compile Wartimes.

 

Script is completely untested, I just added the two new tags.  

 

Also please note that a lot of modders misspell "aggressive" in their tags.

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

Thanks for compiling it but whilst I was at work I thought of a more efficient way of doing it. My issue is always trying to balance the cum drinker/cum slut triggers without having a huge amount of times before advancing to the next stage. I mean I think the cum drinker triggers after the third time that you choose spit so then cumslut cant trigger (if you roleplay being forced to do everything) untill at least the fourth blowjob father demands so I have to set times before advancing to next stage to at least 4 to avoid the trigger being skipped and also it seems to me to happen to early on in the slippery slut slope. Now I know how to deal with dialogue trees in ck so I'm thinking to add extra dialogue lines after the "do with my body as you please" for father to say how he wants to take the pc then link that to the already compiled scripts for each of the previous phases (hands, mouth, pussy, arse, cowgirl)

e.g. "I'm going to shoot my load straight down your throat, I know how much you love the taste" then attach the pchsWartimesST200ServeBlowjob script to that response. 

[Straze]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Pregnancy is a rather big part of the mod. So is the YPS,...

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one. 
Just gotta figure out what YPS is the latest version for SE, and probably going for Fertility Mode over Beeing Female based on forum posts comparing the two.

YPS looks to be a very complicated installation. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Straze

[manafalls]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Most sex retrieves tags via SexTags.json. There are probably some I've missed though. 

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

 

How did I miss this? This is great!

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, Straze said:

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one. 
Just gotta figure out what YPS is the latest version for SE, and probably going for Fertility Mode over Beeing Female based on forum posts comparing the two.

YPS looks to be a very complicated installation. 

For SE? I think 6.2.1 or maybe 1 version prior to that. Not sure if SE got the latest LE update or not.

 

I could guide you through LE installation but SE's another beast that I'm just not so familiar with. Installing YPS is fairly straightforward providing you take your time and do 1 step at a time. Make sure you've got the required mods, check optional ones, install the main mod then install the sounds & textures pack then check for Monoman's mod tweak in this thread and see if it works on both LE & SE (I know it works on LE).

 

For your mod order ensure that YPS is loaded after all it's core requirements (SkyUI, fus ro doh, sexlab etc).

[kapibar]

10 hours ago, Straze said:

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one.

Adding mods mid-game shoudn't be a problem, at least in my experience. It's the removing that will fuck up your day. Just do as @Balgin says and you should be fine, the man knows his shit.

[Straze]

9 hours ago, Balgin said:

For SE? I think 6.2.1 or maybe 1 version prior to that. Not sure if SE got the latest LE update or not.

 

I could guide you through LE installation but SE's another beast that I'm just not so familiar with. Installing YPS is fairly straightforward providing you take your time and do 1 step at a time. Make sure you've got the required mods, check optional ones, install the main mod then install the sounds & textures pack then check for Monoman's mod tweak in this thread and see if it works on both LE & SE (I know it works on LE).

 

For your mod order ensure that YPS is loaded after all it's core requirements (SkyUI, fus ro doh, sexlab etc).

If you have an LE guide, that may be very helpful, so far I did:
The YPS Link above seems to be 6.2.1(YPS SE), and already had installed KS+KS HDT hairs. The Nail Mesh from YPS seems to be CBBE body which may need to be turned off because I use BHUNP. As for the "Recommended Add-ons" from YPS SE the stockings and Armpit hair SlaveTats versions is also CBBE body when I use BHUNP.

So basically of the "Add-ons" I have:
SlaveTats / KS Hairdoss / UIextensions / SL Aroused (Redux - Bakafactory)
 

The download/installation order of YPS went as follows(might remove stockings if it's really bad on BHUNP, but read somewhere that "Wartimes" may require you to wear them to avoid failing father's request):

Spoiler

 

On the YPS download page there is a "YPS-SSE-Jsons" file, not sure if those are required and just installed by replacing YPS SKSE Jsons. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Straze

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

Just do as @Balgin says and you should be fine, the man knows his shit.

Only as far as YPS is concerned and, even then, only really as far as the LE version is concerned. Don't trust me on other things like the economy or something :p.

 

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The Nail Mesh from YPS seems to be CBBE body which may need to be turned off because I use BHUNP.

 

The nail meshes are optional. You'll see an MCM option called Use this mod's nail meshes. Simply turn that option off on the nails page.

 

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So basically of the "Add-ons" I have:
SlaveTats / KS Hairdoss / UIextensions / SL Aroused (Redux - Bakafactory)

You'll want to set up Nioverride.ini to give you enough slots to display all the slavetats you might be using and to enable face overlays (for any facial makeup or piercings above the neck). You might want to get some piercing mods as well (your choice).

 

As for load order I personally have YPS set to load after devious deviants, devious devices - assets, devious devices - integration, hdtHighHeel, SexLab & SBC (if you're using Sexy Bandit Captives you'll want to set YPS to load after it. It's not a requirement).

Edited August 2, 2022 by Balgin

[kapibar]

@Balgin oh, no worries, I have my own perspective on economy to go by ?.

 

@Straze you also might want to look for the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread. The ones in the mod are not that great. Maybe Balgin can help you with that.

[Straze]

53 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You'll want to set up Nioverride.ini to give you enough slots

Currently using;
Body Overlays: 24
Hand&Feet Overlays: 5 each
Face Overlays: 14

 

53 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You might want to get some piercing mods as well (your choice).

Any random Piercing mod works or does it need some specific mod, dunno in how far LE piercing work with SE if LE only mod? 

Thanks for the tips, I take it the SE Jsons in the DL page are optional? 

 

45 minutes ago, kapibar said:

the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread

I'm bit worried if makeup will align with my PC face, since I am using anime style race. Btw, you meant LE YPS thread? I haven't looked at the LE DL page or support thread yet. 

Race Face:

Spoiler

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Straze

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

@Balgin oh, no worries, I have my own perspective on economy to go by ?.

 

@Straze you also might want to look for the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread. The ones in the mod are not that great. Maybe Balgin can help you with that.

 

Perhaps.

 

2) OPTIONAL - YPS More Natural Makeups.zip

 

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Currently using;
Body Overlays: 24
Hand&Feet Overlays: 5 each
Face Overlays: 14

 You should probably increase face overlays to 16 just in case you might want absolutely everything at some point.

 

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Any random Piercing mod works or does it need some specific mod, dunno in how far LE piercing work with SE if LE only mod? 

YPS uses keywords to identify piercings. It won't catch absolutely everything (I'm looking at you, Egyptian piercings and Indian nosering mods). It should absolutely detect pretty much everything from Immersive Jewelry , Test HDT Earrings, KS Jewelry, or HN66s Earrings. It also detects the hdt hoop earrings mod (both silver & gold) and all the earrings from Aegis' Outfitter expansion for Hormones (which the better makeup came from). It absolutely detects everything in Leah Lillith jewellery as well.

 

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Btw, you meant LE YPS thread? I haven't looked at the LE DL page or support thread yet. 

I did. Be warned, it's massive.

 

That face may have some issues with the makeup as it's designed for more human faces but Khajiit and Argonaisn can use it so it might just work out somehow. I suppose you'll just have to experiment.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Balgin

[Will55]

I have both Lux clothing and YPS running with equipable stockins. Normally I use the Lux stockings if i have any hookers (none in this run) or on my female chars.

But YPS and equipable stockings(ES) seems to have a better range of choices although I cannot seem to find such for sale (only as a package). So I made some nylons which when "equipped" do NOT show up on my char (unlike Lux) so I removed and even dropped the stockings. BUT when it comes to toenails being painted it say "remove stockings" but she is not wearing any and i am at the stage of removing YPS and ES and re-installing. Is there anything else that i can do?

 

In addition, the other body piercings I have limited to ears, navel, nipples and genitals (standard for hookers) but am curious does 'daddy" have these installed also?

I am running two streams here in parallel 1) where she hangs out WRT virtue to the end raped or not; 2) where she goes the whole hog into prurience.

Mostly out of perverse curiosity as her degradation unsettles me.

 

If I (unwillingly) use fertility mod does it ruin my chars's figure when she is pregnant? as IMO this is a big No No! Or is there no need for such immersion built in to the mod?

 

For those who seek revenge upon daddy there are still ways to do so.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Will55

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Will55 said:

I have both Lux clothing and YPS running with equipable stockins. Normally I use the Lux stockings if i have any hookers (none in this run) or on my female chars.

But YPS and equipable stockings(ES) seems to have a better range of choices although I cannot seem to find such for sale (only as a package). So I made some nylons which when "equipped" do NOT show up on my char (unlike Lux) so I removed and even dropped the stockings. BUT when it comes to toenails being painted it say "remove stockings" but she is not wearing any and i am at the stage of removing YPS and ES and re-installing. Is there anything else that i can do?

 

In addition, the other body piercings I have limited to ears, navel, nipples and genitals (standard for hookers) but am curious does 'daddy" have these installed also?

I am running two streams here in parallel 1) where she hangs out WRT virtue to the end raped or not; 2) where she goes the whole hog into prurience.

Mostly out of perverse curiosity as her degradation unsettles me.

 

If I (unwillingly) use fertility mod does it ruin my chars's figure when she is pregnant? as IMO this is a big No No! Or is there no need for such immersion built in to the mod?

 

For those who seek revenge upon daddy there are still ways to do so.

1. There's no point installing equippable stockings because yps tweak uses equippable stockings but in separate object form (not a one magic stocking object). Try equipping some yps stockings and unequip them again. 

 

2. Piercings are configurable via json. There's probably a help file there with the json. Only built in piercings are supported - The overlay versions (not inventory objects)

 

3. At least by default FM changes the belly morph when pregnant as you would kind of expect. Changes aren't permanent to my knowledge. 

[pippin8]

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

[Will55]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

1. There's no point installing equippable stockings because yps tweak uses equippable stockings but in separate object form (not a one magic stocking object). Try equipping some yps stockings and unequip them again. 

 

2. Piercings are configurable via json. There's probably a help file there with the json. Only built in piercings are supported - The overlay versions (not inventory objects)

 

3. At least by default FM changes the belly morph when pregnant as you would kind of expect. Changes aren't permanent to my knowledge. 

Thanks, I solved the problem by a clean save reinstall and removing the none yps equipable stocking mod

I asked 3) as SSE seems to increase boob size every time i load a save and i am constantly reducing their size. IMO they might be perfect right now but you can have too much of a good thing ? so WRT Fertility mode the increase will only be 0.1. I have seen so often what RL pregnancy can do to a beautiful figure and it can be depressing.

 

 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, pippin8 said:

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

The latest version is 10.3. @Silvain has been doing a great job keeping the SE version updated.

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, pippin8 said:

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767

 

Based on a conversion of: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3436353

 

 

For the love of god, do not install it on a game running the original version of the mod (do a new game).

 

Dependency information:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3706882

 

[kapibar]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

For the love of god, do not install it on a game running the original version of the mod (do a new game).

 

Actually this begs the question - why don't you create a new download topic with your version of the mod, so more people know about it? I know you originally wanted to give it back to @pchs and be done with it, but as it is obviously not the case anymore, I fail to understand why you're not taking over? At this point, considering the amount of work and development you've put into WT, you should be recognized as its co-creator. This is quite ridiculous, one of the best, most immersive mods on LL and hardly anyone knows about it because of its cloak & dagger style of development.

[audhol]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

I fail to understand why you're not taking over?

Maybe as it is Mono can work on it as he feels like it but if he releases it as a standalone he might feel more presure to keep updating it?

[Silvain]

16 hours ago, pippin8 said:

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

 

The SE version is linked in the WT post from Monoman1.

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, kapibar said:

why don't you create a new download topic with your version of the mod,

Because it's not my mod. Simple as. 

 

I never got permission from pchs to do the tweak. In my defense:

1. Tweak started as just some fixes for a mod I really liked (and spiraled out of control big time)

2. I assumed pchs was inactive. I was wrong. 

 

Intention is still to finish up and hand the mod back but it's taking way longer than I ever imagined.