Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[leakim]

I know this definitely won't be for everyone, but the plugin already has the player manage everything about the PC's body in this mod, so I thought, why not go one step further?

 

This mod certainly has a nice opportunity to integrate with a mod like Pee and Fart [LE, SE]. Would give father additional reasons to be angry with you and more bodily functions to manage and a nice addition to the bathroom you're making. Obviously, optional, like everything else for the weak souls who cannot deal with such things.

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by leakim

[neneXgod]

42 minutes ago, leakim said:

I know this definitely won't be for everyone, but the plugin already has the player manage everything about the PC's body in this mod, so I thought, why not go one step further?

 

This mod certainly has a nice opportunity to integrate with a mod like Pee and Fart [LE, SE]. Would give father additional reasons to be angry with you and more bodily functions to manage and a nice addition to the bathroom you're making. Obviously, optional, like everything else for the weak souls who cannot deal with such things.

 

That's a nice idea. Like the father humiliates the PC by ordering you to piss in front of the party guest etc.

[Anunya]

On 5/5/2022 at 10:23 AM, Monoman1 said:

Currently slowly retrofitting the party guests with the new food system. Slow work. Any suggestions for:

 

1. Extra party tasks. I was thinking maybe dog sex and/or cum shower (Kneel the PC and play masturbation anims on party guests. Alignment's going to be an issue though...). Maybe put on a particularly revealing outfit... or maybe just asked to put on an outfit that's one level up on the outfit lists. 

 

2. Have noticed that the guest 'hello' comments are fairly limited and they're all pretty severe - "aren't you a nice fuck toy" etc. Looking for snide/sneaky comments that are a little less... direct for early mod parties. Or more nasty ones for later. Knock yourself out. 

 

Because I love a brainstorm (even if it's a bit late):

 

Extra party tasks:

 

- Anything to trigger one of Gunslicer's many anims (GS seems pretty generous with permissions) - "Shake your tits for me, there's a good girl," - "you have such a nice ass, how about you get on your knees and wiggle it for me for a bit" etc.

 

- Let's play a game... (simple dice game high roll wins / anything / can adjust the odds). "You win, I give you a nice tip (5 gold), I win I put my tip down your throat (blowjob)."

 

- "Get drinks for everyone! Hurry up!" (serve multiple drinks consecutively with timer running).

 

- "You deserve a little something to make you feel good... why don't you masturbate for us?"

 

- "Oops! I spilled my drink on my shoes. You should lick it up... wouldn't want to waste it."

 

- "Collect everyone's coats/ weapons/ hats / cloaks/ [whatever]" when they arrive first thing, and put them in a chest. Then when the party winds up, bring them their stuff back. Better remember who owns what item or get a smack.

 

- "Let me spank your ass, just for fun. I promise I won't go too hard."

 

- Someone pukes on the floor. Clean it up quick.

 

- "Stick a flute up your ass" (everyone is hugely entertained). I can't remember which mod this is from... is it SLS? Wartimes already? Because if it is, then it's right there to use. But maybe it's from somewhere else? Afterwards, play it (and get disgusted/ impressed comments about ass to mouth).

 

- "Have a drink with me" (could be alcohol, could be whatever wacky lactaid/ alchemy/ cum potions).

 

- "I bet [other party goer] that you'd let me fingerfuck you for 2 gold. How about it?"

 

- Father: "go into the basement to fetch more [ale/ wine/ snacks] for the guests". One or more designated perverts will follow you (if they see you go through the hatch) and proposition you / rape you / blackmail you.

 

- I've always been a fan of the idea that the people you're servicing (guards in the tower, old man on the farm, horse/ dog breeders blackmail or pressure you over what you've done. Things like "if you don't go into the basement and let me fuck your ass, I'll tell your dad what you're doing with my dogs".

 

Party greetings / comments:

 

"Hello there sweetheart"

"Aren't you a pretty thing"

"Hi sugartits"

"Did anyone ever tell you your lips look perfect for sucking cock?"

"I used to think you were such a nice, proper little girl..."

"Why do you let him do this to you? I bet you like it...."

"Are you horny? You look horny"

"You've change a lot... in a nice way."

"You'll do anything your daddy says, won't you?"

"Your dad's done a great job training you."

"I like your outfit."

"You have such a pretty face."

"You're so obedient. A credit to your father."

"Your father works very hard for you. You should be grateful."

"I think about you a lot when I masturbate."

"You're pathetic. Makes me want to fuck you."

 

... as always, take/ modify what you like and discard the rest.

 

 

[audhol]

I wanted to open up more animations for the "Do with my body as you please, father." stage of the pchswartimes quest by adding aditional tags into this script

 

Am I correct in assuming it needs 2 of those tags to pick the animation?

Anyway me being a noobnumpty with CK I can't get it to compile so is it possible for someone to compile it with the aggressive and dirty tags added please?

[leakim]

This took longer than I care to admit, but hey, at least now I can compile Wartimes.

 

Script is completely untested, I just added the two new tags.  

 

Also please note that a lot of modders misspell "aggressive" in their tags.

pchsWartimesSt200ServeRough.pex

[manafalls]

2 hours ago, audhol said:

I wanted to open up more animations for the "Do with my body as you please, father." stage of the pchswartimes quest by adding aditional tags into this script

 

Am I correct in assuming it needs 2 of those tags to pick the animation?

Anyway me being a noobnumpty with CK I can't get it to compile so is it possible for someone to compile it with the aggressive and dirty tags added please?

 

Even better, is there any way to read the animation tags from a json file, so they can be customized at will?

 

[Monoman1]

35 minutes ago, manafalls said:

Even better, is there any way to read the animation tags from a json file, so they can be customized at will?

Most sex retrieves tags via SexTags.json. There are probably some I've missed though. 

3 hours ago, audhol said:

Am I correct in assuming it needs 2 of those tags to pick the animation?

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

[Straze]

Thanks for the great mod, I've a suggestion for when mother dies.

 

When the mother dies the PC will be traumatised, so when she drinks an alcoholic substance (wine/ale etc) there is a chance for her to go into an "emotional state" and become unresponsive allowing for nearby character(s) to approach her and trigger an event (events from good > bad: based on Submission/depravity stats).

Alcoholic drinks can be avoided, but maybe Party or other tasks could have the PC drink something?

 

p.s. I have been considering using YPS or a pregnancy mod but was wondering how much Pregnancy ties into the quests. Asking cuz I read somewhere that Pregnancy mods + FHU can create problems because of the body scaling. 
Also this is the correct version for SE (there are so many files spread out on the forums)? YPS SE

Edited August 1, 2022 by Straze

[kapibar]

4 hours ago, Straze said:

p.s. I have been considering using YPS or a pregnancy mod but was wondering how much Pregnancy ties into the quests. Asking cuz I read somewhere that Pregnancy mods + FHU can create problems because of the body scaling.

Can't say anything about compatibility with FHU, but maybe SLIF could manage that. Pregnancy is a rather big part of the mod. So is the YPS, so if you want full experience, you should consider adding both. Also, pregnancy acts as a friendly introduction to MME.

Edited August 1, 2022 by kapibar

[audhol]

7 hours ago, leakim said:

This took longer than I care to admit, but hey, at least now I can compile Wartimes.

 

Script is completely untested, I just added the two new tags.  

 

Also please note that a lot of modders misspell "aggressive" in their tags.

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

Thanks for compiling it but whilst I was at work I thought of a more efficient way of doing it. My issue is always trying to balance the cum drinker/cum slut triggers without having a huge amount of times before advancing to the next stage. I mean I think the cum drinker triggers after the third time that you choose spit so then cumslut cant trigger (if you roleplay being forced to do everything) untill at least the fourth blowjob father demands so I have to set times before advancing to next stage to at least 4 to avoid the trigger being skipped and also it seems to me to happen to early on in the slippery slut slope. Now I know how to deal with dialogue trees in ck so I'm thinking to add extra dialogue lines after the "do with my body as you please" for father to say how he wants to take the pc then link that to the already compiled scripts for each of the previous phases (hands, mouth, pussy, arse, cowgirl)

e.g. "I'm going to shoot my load straight down your throat, I know how much you love the taste" then attach the pchsWartimesST200ServeBlowjob script to that response. 

[Straze]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Pregnancy is a rather big part of the mod. So is the YPS,...

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one. 
Just gotta figure out what YPS is the latest version for SE, and probably going for Fertility Mode over Beeing Female based on forum posts comparing the two.

YPS looks to be a very complicated installation. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Straze

[manafalls]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Most sex retrieves tags via SexTags.json. There are probably some I've missed though. 

Doesn't need any tags really but obviously will affect results. 

This fragment does not exist in my version for some reason...

 

How did I miss this? This is great!

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, Straze said:

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one. 
Just gotta figure out what YPS is the latest version for SE, and probably going for Fertility Mode over Beeing Female based on forum posts comparing the two.

YPS looks to be a very complicated installation. 

For SE? I think 6.2.1 or maybe 1 version prior to that. Not sure if SE got the latest LE update or not.

 

I could guide you through LE installation but SE's another beast that I'm just not so familiar with. Installing YPS is fairly straightforward providing you take your time and do 1 step at a time. Make sure you've got the required mods, check optional ones, install the main mod then install the sounds & textures pack then check for Monoman's mod tweak in this thread and see if it works on both LE & SE (I know it works on LE).

 

For your mod order ensure that YPS is loaded after all it's core requirements (SkyUI, fus ro doh, sexlab etc).

[kapibar]

10 hours ago, Straze said:

I see, thanks! I doubt I can install them during a playthrough so will have to create a new one.

Adding mods mid-game shoudn't be a problem, at least in my experience. It's the removing that will fuck up your day. Just do as @Balgin says and you should be fine, the man knows his shit.

[Straze]

9 hours ago, Balgin said:

For SE? I think 6.2.1 or maybe 1 version prior to that. Not sure if SE got the latest LE update or not.

 

I could guide you through LE installation but SE's another beast that I'm just not so familiar with. Installing YPS is fairly straightforward providing you take your time and do 1 step at a time. Make sure you've got the required mods, check optional ones, install the main mod then install the sounds & textures pack then check for Monoman's mod tweak in this thread and see if it works on both LE & SE (I know it works on LE).

 

For your mod order ensure that YPS is loaded after all it's core requirements (SkyUI, fus ro doh, sexlab etc).

If you have an LE guide, that may be very helpful, so far I did:
The YPS Link above seems to be 6.2.1(YPS SE), and already had installed KS+KS HDT hairs. The Nail Mesh from YPS seems to be CBBE body which may need to be turned off because I use BHUNP. As for the "Recommended Add-ons" from YPS SE the stockings and Armpit hair SlaveTats versions is also CBBE body when I use BHUNP.

So basically of the "Add-ons" I have:
SlaveTats / KS Hairdoss / UIextensions / SL Aroused (Redux - Bakafactory)
 

The download/installation order of YPS went as follows(might remove stockings if it's really bad on BHUNP, but read somewhere that "Wartimes" may require you to wear them to avoid failing father's request):

Spoiler

 

On the YPS download page there is a "YPS-SSE-Jsons" file, not sure if those are required and just installed by replacing YPS SKSE Jsons. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Straze

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

Just do as @Balgin says and you should be fine, the man knows his shit.

Only as far as YPS is concerned and, even then, only really as far as the LE version is concerned. Don't trust me on other things like the economy or something :p.

 

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The Nail Mesh from YPS seems to be CBBE body which may need to be turned off because I use BHUNP.

 

The nail meshes are optional. You'll see an MCM option called Use this mod's nail meshes. Simply turn that option off on the nails page.

 

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So basically of the "Add-ons" I have:
SlaveTats / KS Hairdoss / UIextensions / SL Aroused (Redux - Bakafactory)

You'll want to set up Nioverride.ini to give you enough slots to display all the slavetats you might be using and to enable face overlays (for any facial makeup or piercings above the neck). You might want to get some piercing mods as well (your choice).

 

As for load order I personally have YPS set to load after devious deviants, devious devices - assets, devious devices - integration, hdtHighHeel, SexLab & SBC (if you're using Sexy Bandit Captives you'll want to set YPS to load after it. It's not a requirement).

Edited August 2, 2022 by Balgin

[kapibar]

@Balgin oh, no worries, I have my own perspective on economy to go by ?.

 

@Straze you also might want to look for the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread. The ones in the mod are not that great. Maybe Balgin can help you with that.

[Straze]

53 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You'll want to set up Nioverride.ini to give you enough slots

Currently using;
Body Overlays: 24
Hand&Feet Overlays: 5 each
Face Overlays: 14

 

53 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You might want to get some piercing mods as well (your choice).

Any random Piercing mod works or does it need some specific mod, dunno in how far LE piercing work with SE if LE only mod? 

Thanks for the tips, I take it the SE Jsons in the DL page are optional? 

 

45 minutes ago, kapibar said:

the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread

I'm bit worried if makeup will align with my PC face, since I am using anime style race. Btw, you meant LE YPS thread? I haven't looked at the LE DL page or support thread yet. 

Race Face:

Spoiler

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Straze

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

@Balgin oh, no worries, I have my own perspective on economy to go by ?.

 

@Straze you also might want to look for the improved makeup texture in the YPS thread. The ones in the mod are not that great. Maybe Balgin can help you with that.

 

Perhaps.

 

2) OPTIONAL - YPS More Natural Makeups.zip

 

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Currently using;
Body Overlays: 24
Hand&Feet Overlays: 5 each
Face Overlays: 14

 You should probably increase face overlays to 16 just in case you might want absolutely everything at some point.

 

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Any random Piercing mod works or does it need some specific mod, dunno in how far LE piercing work with SE if LE only mod? 

YPS uses keywords to identify piercings. It won't catch absolutely everything (I'm looking at you, Egyptian piercings and Indian nosering mods). It should absolutely detect pretty much everything from Immersive Jewelry , Test HDT Earrings, KS Jewelry, or HN66s Earrings. It also detects the hdt hoop earrings mod (both silver & gold) and all the earrings from Aegis' Outfitter expansion for Hormones (which the better makeup came from). It absolutely detects everything in Leah Lillith jewellery as well.

 

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Btw, you meant LE YPS thread? I haven't looked at the LE DL page or support thread yet. 

I did. Be warned, it's massive.

 

That face may have some issues with the makeup as it's designed for more human faces but Khajiit and Argonaisn can use it so it might just work out somehow. I suppose you'll just have to experiment.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Balgin

[Will55]

I have both Lux clothing and YPS running with equipable stockins. Normally I use the Lux stockings if i have any hookers (none in this run) or on my female chars.

But YPS and equipable stockings(ES) seems to have a better range of choices although I cannot seem to find such for sale (only as a package). So I made some nylons which when "equipped" do NOT show up on my char (unlike Lux) so I removed and even dropped the stockings. BUT when it comes to toenails being painted it say "remove stockings" but she is not wearing any and i am at the stage of removing YPS and ES and re-installing. Is there anything else that i can do?

 

In addition, the other body piercings I have limited to ears, navel, nipples and genitals (standard for hookers) but am curious does 'daddy" have these installed also?

I am running two streams here in parallel 1) where she hangs out WRT virtue to the end raped or not; 2) where she goes the whole hog into prurience.

Mostly out of perverse curiosity as her degradation unsettles me.

 

If I (unwillingly) use fertility mod does it ruin my chars's figure when she is pregnant? as IMO this is a big No No! Or is there no need for such immersion built in to the mod?

 

For those who seek revenge upon daddy there are still ways to do so.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Will55

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Will55 said:

I have both Lux clothing and YPS running with equipable stockins. Normally I use the Lux stockings if i have any hookers (none in this run) or on my female chars.

But YPS and equipable stockings(ES) seems to have a better range of choices although I cannot seem to find such for sale (only as a package). So I made some nylons which when "equipped" do NOT show up on my char (unlike Lux) so I removed and even dropped the stockings. BUT when it comes to toenails being painted it say "remove stockings" but she is not wearing any and i am at the stage of removing YPS and ES and re-installing. Is there anything else that i can do?

 

In addition, the other body piercings I have limited to ears, navel, nipples and genitals (standard for hookers) but am curious does 'daddy" have these installed also?

I am running two streams here in parallel 1) where she hangs out WRT virtue to the end raped or not; 2) where she goes the whole hog into prurience.

Mostly out of perverse curiosity as her degradation unsettles me.

 

If I (unwillingly) use fertility mod does it ruin my chars's figure when she is pregnant? as IMO this is a big No No! Or is there no need for such immersion built in to the mod?

 

For those who seek revenge upon daddy there are still ways to do so.

1. There's no point installing equippable stockings because yps tweak uses equippable stockings but in separate object form (not a one magic stocking object). Try equipping some yps stockings and unequip them again. 

 

2. Piercings are configurable via json. There's probably a help file there with the json. Only built in piercings are supported - The overlay versions (not inventory objects)

 

3. At least by default FM changes the belly morph when pregnant as you would kind of expect. Changes aren't permanent to my knowledge. 

[pippin8]

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

[Will55]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

1. There's no point installing equippable stockings because yps tweak uses equippable stockings but in separate object form (not a one magic stocking object). Try equipping some yps stockings and unequip them again. 

 

2. Piercings are configurable via json. There's probably a help file there with the json. Only built in piercings are supported - The overlay versions (not inventory objects)

 

3. At least by default FM changes the belly morph when pregnant as you would kind of expect. Changes aren't permanent to my knowledge. 

Thanks, I solved the problem by a clean save reinstall and removing the none yps equipable stocking mod

I asked 3) as SSE seems to increase boob size every time i load a save and i am constantly reducing their size. IMO they might be perfect right now but you can have too much of a good thing ? so WRT Fertility mode the increase will only be 0.1. I have seen so often what RL pregnancy can do to a beautiful figure and it can be depressing.

 

 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, pippin8 said:

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

The latest version is 10.3. @Silvain has been doing a great job keeping the SE version updated.

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, pippin8 said:

Hello, sorry if this question is stupid or redunant but i was wondering how are things for the SE version of this mod? I know that there is a one which was last updated last year, but was there any major update since then?

Its really a great mod from what i see

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767

 

Based on a conversion of: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3436353

 

 

For the love of god, do not install it on a game running the original version of the mod (do a new game).

 

Dependency information:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3706882