kapibar Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Dont see anything in the changelog that would affect this. Its probably going to be a couple of days before I can even test it so you're on your own until then. Well, it's the old method then. Downgrade to 10.0, get the dialogue, upgrade, pray nothing else gets fucked. Oh, and while we're at it - WT sends messages after Father's death (about him being angry that PC didn't orgasm). Honestly, this is so creepy I would leave it as it is. Father's disapproval from the grave xD.
Monoman1 Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, kapibar said: Well, it's the old method then. Downgrade to 10.0, get the dialogue, upgrade, pray nothing else gets fucked. Oh, and while we're at it - WT sends messages after Father's death (about him being angry that PC didn't orgasm). Honestly, this is so creepy I would leave it as it is. Father's disapproval from the grave xD. Hey. The guy likes what the guy likes.... 1
safado Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, kapibar said: Well, it's the old method then. Downgrade to 10.0, get the dialogue, upgrade, pray nothing else gets fucked. Oh, and while we're at it - WT sends messages after Father's death (about him being angry that PC didn't orgasm). Honestly, this is so creepy I would leave it as it is. Father's disapproval from the grave xD. There was an Oblivion mod that added the chance for corpses on re-visiting cells to transform to zombies or skeletons. Your last line gave me a flashback about it while chuckling. ? 1
Kryona Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) I've been noticing in the beta that when i ask for a day off, the favour cost isnt actually getting subtracted from the overall favour neither before nor afterwards as in when im on 50 favour and ask for a day off i will still have 50 favour after the day ended. i assume this is not intended. Edited April 5, 2022 by Kryona
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Kryona said: I've been noticing in the beta that when i ask for a day off, the favour cost isnt actually getting subtracted from the overall favour neither before nor afterwards as in when im on 50 favour and ask for a day off i will still have 50 favour after the day ended. i assume this is not intended. Yea I think you're right. Can't check anything except code right now but your request for time off changes eventually and when it does it should start deducting favour. Will fix.
IdiotFrigFrog Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) I can't for the life of me make this work. Whenever I create a new game I instantly crash, is there requirements not listed ? Going on the LE main page, your updated post and the SE outdated version to find out what you need makes it really hard to know what you need. Any hard incompatible mods ? Here is my modlist Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl CreatureFramework.esm High Poly Head.esm SkyUI_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp TrueStormsSE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp DW.esp SimplyKnock.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Sisterhood Mara.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Jampion NPCs.esp ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp SL Survival.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SimpleSlavery.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp EstrusChaurus.esp SLALAnimObj.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SlaveTats.esp zzEstrus.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Jampion NPCs - USSEP Patch.esp Blush When Aroused.esp ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp AnubAnimObj.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp Wolfpaint_Face.esp Elemental Eyes.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LazyBodyEdit.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp Brows.esp Botox SE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp XPMSE.esp FNIS.esp UIExtensions.esp NightEyeENBFix.esp Obsidian Weathers - Patch - Rudy ENB.esp True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SexLabDefeat.esp FNISspells.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLabTools.esp SLAdventures.esp AnimatedParasites.esp BesEss.esp [SunJeong] Ninirim Collection.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp DeviousStatues.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp DVLaSS Skyrim Underside.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp pchsWartimes.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp Water for ENB - Patch - Rudy ENB.esp Water for ENB - Patch - Darker LOD Water.esp Edited April 5, 2022 by ExoLyzix Adding more info
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExoLyzix said: Any hard incompatible mods ? The voice pack esp apparently. Also get UI extensions.
Desvati Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Monoman1 said: Check for file/record overwrites please. These systems haven't changed in a really long time AFAIR. If you have overwrites I wouldn't trust anything except a new game at this point after fixing as It's likely the scripts are scrambled. For more feedback on the same update, playing also in a fresh game, I received the tension dialogue, my favour lowers/raises as normal. I can corroborate that the supply quest starts without a force greet this run around. It just gives the quest at random.
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Desvati said: I can corroborate that the supply quest starts without a force greet this run around. It just gives the quest at random. I've looked at the code. I can't see how it can start except through the FG. Is it possible the dialogue 'fell over itself'? - Other dialogue was running before/after and the nature of walk away dialogue is that it runs out anyway.
kapibar Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: I've looked at the code. I can't see how it can start except through the FG. Is it possible the dialogue 'fell over itself'? - Other dialogue was running before/after and the nature of walk away dialogue is that it runs out anyway. I was quite thorough in my observation of the dialogues and it doesn't seem like any other dialogue covered up the forcegreet. In fact there was no dialogue at all, the quest was just marked as started and that's it. The only other FG that might collide with it is the firewood supply forcegreet, which is quite aggressive and initiates in the beginning of servitude.
IdiotFrigFrog Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Monoman1 said: The voice pack esp apparently. Also get UI extensions. I already had UI extensions and the voice pack isn't installed it still CTD as soon as I hit new game. I'm at a loss since I deactivated a huge amount of mods and it still persists. Could you tell me which mods you don't use on my updated mod list, ( Either when you play or during your testing ) Load order : Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm CreatureFramework.esm Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl High Poly Head.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Amputator.esm SkyUI_SE.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp SimplyKnock.esp SL Survival.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp AnimatedParasites.esp AnubAnimObj.esp Blush When Aroused.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp CBBE.esp DW.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp EstrusChaurus.esp zzEstrus.esp SLALAnimObj.esp FNIS.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp pchsWartimes.esp SimpleSlavery.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp FNISspells.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp HentaiCreatures.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LazyBodyEdit.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp SexLabTools.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLAdventures.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SlaveTats.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp UIExtensions.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Plugin list : Spoiler *Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp *SexLab.esm *Devious Devices - Assets.esm *SexLabAroused.esm *Devious Devices - Integration.esm *Devious Devices - Expansion.esm *Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm *CreatureFramework.esm *Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl *High Poly Head.esm *Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm *ZaZAnimationPack.esm *Amputator.esm *SkyUI_SE.esp *MoreNastyCritters.esp *BakaFactoryABC.esp *SimplyKnock.esp *SL Survival.esp *SexLab-Parasites.esp *AnimatedParasites.esp *AnubAnimObj.esp *Blush When Aroused.esp *3BBB.esp *SOSPhysicsManager.esp *CBBE.esp *DW.esp *Devious Devices For Him.esp *Devious Devices SE patch.esp *EstrusChaurus.esp *zzEstrus.esp *SLALAnimObj.esp *FNIS.esp *sanguinesDebauchery.esp *pchsWartimes.esp *SimpleSlavery.esp *SexLab_Dialogues.esp *FNISspells.esp *sr_FillHerUp.esp *HentaiCreatures.esp *KS Hairdo's.esp *LazyBodyEdit.esp *MassMatchMakerSE.esp *SexLab_Hormones.esp *The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp *yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp *SexLab Eager NPCs.esp *RohZima_AnimObjects.esp *SexLabTools.esp *RaceMenu.esp *RaceMenuPlugin.esp *RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp *SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp *SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp *SLAnimLoader.esp *SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp *Schlongs of Skyrim.esp *SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp *SLAdventures.esp *SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp *ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp *SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp *SexLab_Solutions.esp *SexLabDefeat.esp *SlaveTats.esp *TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp *UIExtensions.esp *SOSRaceMenu.esp *XPMSE.esp *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Thanks for the replies and taking the time
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ExoLyzix said: I already had UI extensions and the voice pack isn't installed it still CTD as soon as I hit new game. I'm at a loss since I deactivated a huge amount of mods and it still persists. Could you tell me which mods you don't use on my updated mod list, ( Either when you play or during your testing ) Load order : Reveal hidden contents Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm CreatureFramework.esm Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl High Poly Head.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Amputator.esm SkyUI_SE.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp SimplyKnock.esp SL Survival.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp AnimatedParasites.esp AnubAnimObj.esp Blush When Aroused.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp CBBE.esp DW.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp EstrusChaurus.esp zzEstrus.esp SLALAnimObj.esp FNIS.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp pchsWartimes.esp SimpleSlavery.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp FNISspells.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp HentaiCreatures.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LazyBodyEdit.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp SexLabTools.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLAdventures.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SlaveTats.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp UIExtensions.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Plugin list : Reveal hidden contents *Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp *SexLab.esm *Devious Devices - Assets.esm *SexLabAroused.esm *Devious Devices - Integration.esm *Devious Devices - Expansion.esm *Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm *CreatureFramework.esm *Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl *High Poly Head.esm *Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm *ZaZAnimationPack.esm *Amputator.esm *SkyUI_SE.esp *MoreNastyCritters.esp *BakaFactoryABC.esp *SimplyKnock.esp *SL Survival.esp *SexLab-Parasites.esp *AnimatedParasites.esp *AnubAnimObj.esp *Blush When Aroused.esp *3BBB.esp *SOSPhysicsManager.esp *CBBE.esp *DW.esp *Devious Devices For Him.esp *Devious Devices SE patch.esp *EstrusChaurus.esp *zzEstrus.esp *SLALAnimObj.esp *FNIS.esp *sanguinesDebauchery.esp *pchsWartimes.esp *SimpleSlavery.esp *SexLab_Dialogues.esp *FNISspells.esp *sr_FillHerUp.esp *HentaiCreatures.esp *KS Hairdo's.esp *LazyBodyEdit.esp *MassMatchMakerSE.esp *SexLab_Hormones.esp *The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp *yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp *SexLab Eager NPCs.esp *RohZima_AnimObjects.esp *SexLabTools.esp *RaceMenu.esp *RaceMenuPlugin.esp *RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp *SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp *SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp *SLAnimLoader.esp *SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp *Schlongs of Skyrim.esp *SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp *SLAdventures.esp *SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp *ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp *SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp *SexLab_Solutions.esp *SexLabDefeat.esp *SlaveTats.esp *TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp *UIExtensions.esp *SOSRaceMenu.esp *XPMSE.esp *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Thanks for the replies and taking the time Check your zaz is up to date 1
IdiotFrigFrog Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Check your zaz is up to date That was it, I had ZAZ 7.0 ( didn't check below in ZAZ SE thread for newer versions ) thank you so much for the help.
kapibar Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) @Monoman1 downgraded to 10.0, setup hasn't been changed. Starting save the same, removed 10.3, cleaned up the saved, reinstalled 10.0. Started the quest and the first FG was the supply run forcegreet. In 10.3 the first FG was always firewood forcegreet. Edit: negative favours calculated correctly, no more -79. Edit 2: Tension dialogue forcegreet works in 10.0. So I think we can safely say that it's the update that's at fault. Edited April 5, 2022 by kapibar
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 4 hours ago, kapibar said: @Monoman1 downgraded to 10.0, setup hasn't been changed. Starting save the same, removed 10.3, cleaned up the saved, reinstalled 10.0. Started the quest and the first FG was the supply run forcegreet. In 10.3 the first FG was always firewood forcegreet. Edit: negative favours calculated correctly, no more -79. Was going to upload pics but the site is too god damned slow for that so you'll have to take my word. Speedtest 10.4 (which again doesn't include any changes to the FG block or favour system that I think would be relevant) FG1: Firewood FG2: Supply run Failed firewood: Favour -1 Btw the FG order is random. Firewood does not have to occur before supply run or vice versa. As long as conditions are met order is random. 1
Silvain Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Dunno if it helps, but I uploaded 10.0 again (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767) Don't have 10.1 so can't help with that.
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) Lets forget about tense sex for a minute and focus on the favour system doing -70 etc. If that's not working then it's likely tasks completed is not incrementing correctly which would mean that tense sex shouldn't fire anyway. If someone could post a log of favour being deducted more than expected I'll take a look. Preferably if it's the first erroneous occurrence of the game on that save. By default max deduction of favour for failing any single task should be 10. But it should be lower in the early game. Edit: Also a log of gaining favour for a regular repeatable task might be of interest. Edited April 5, 2022 by Monoman1
kapibar Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: If someone could post a log of favour being deducted more than expected I'll take a look. I would do it if I had any fucking clue on how to do it ^^. Edited April 5, 2022 by kapibar
DustyK Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Monoman1 said: Lets forget about tense sex for a minute and focus on the favour system doing -70 etc. If that's not working then it's likely tasks completed is not incrementing correctly which would mean that tense sex shouldn't fire anyway. If someone could post a log of favour being deducted more than expected I'll take a look. Preferably if it's the first erroneous occurrence of the game on that save. By default max deduction of favour for failing any single task should be 10. But it should be lower in the early game. Edit: Also a log of gaining favour for a regular repeatable task might be of interest. My Papyrus log is 5mb worth of mess so im not sure it it will be of help. I was messing around and manually setting tasksdone to 20, which was the only way I could get tense to trigger, but it seems to reset it self to 10 on the next favor granting task(which is the max I could get no matter what I do). Just want to make sure, but this setting should not affect the tense progress right? I did a stupid and set this from 100 to 10 when I was going to MCM in the new game, and I notice right after I set this back to 100, my tasksdone jump from the stuck 10 to 14 the moment I spoke to Father and passed his fashion and outfit check (where the in game notification told me I got +4 total) Edited April 5, 2022 by DustyK
Monoman1 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, DustyK said: Papyrus log is 5mb worth of mess so im not sure it it will be of help. If you're papyrus vm is overwhelmed by a misbehaving mod it can have knock on effects for other mods. So id make sure everything is OK there first. Check saves in falrim tools. Get in the habit of checking them any time you think something funky is going on. You may not know what you're looking for at first but over time you'll recognise whats normal from whats not. Check active scripts and suspended stacks. 1 hour ago, DustyK said: was messing around and manually setting tasksdone to 20, which was the only way I could get tense to trigger, but it seems to reset it self to 10 on the next favor granting task(which is the max I could get no matter what I do). Just want to make sure, but this setting should not affect the tense progress right? I did a stupid and set this from 100 to 10 when I was going to MCM in the new game, and I notice right after I set this back to 100, my tasksdone jump from the stuck 10 to 14 the moment I spoke to Father and passed his fashion and outfit check (where the in game notification told me I got +4 total) Hmm. Its possible that I mistakenly swapped the max cap variable with the variable for tasks till max favour loss. Itd explain why your favour seemed to be capped at 10. Ill check that out later. I never really change these values from default.
my boii Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 10:05 PM, safado said: Recommended mods for 'full' experience 2x Tweaks above. He meant: Amputator Framework Tweak Immersive Fashion Tweak The 2.4 Immersive fashion tweak is compatible with SE, or should I just use the 1.7? Thanks
Monoman1 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 New handy dandy bathroom... I've gone for a more simple/rustic look since your family is supposed to be broke. No jacuzzi. Some PITA though! I don't know what way bethesda created the cell but nothing snapped together correctly because all objects were placed at fractional coordinates. Making snap to basically worthless. So I ended up recreating the entire fucking structure of the home cell by hand... Well it's more or less done now. Structurally at least. Still need to place furniture etc. While I was at it I've been making some changes: 1. Slightly increase the size of the main room to try to 'decompress' it a bit. 2. Enlarged the player's room slightly and rearrange it. 3. Father's room is now a walk-in pantry. Proviant barrel will hopefully get the bullet... 4. Father now sleeps with Mother in Mother's room. Also increased the size of the room. 5. Added the bathroom Cellar is also being expanded a bit... Due to all the changes the next version will basically require a new game because some stuff just doesn't move mid game. Still a long ways off though... 11
Balgin Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) I suspect that Bethesda didn't create the cell. Normally there isn't a house there at all. I remember early versions of the mod, stepping in through the door involved appearing 7 or 8 feet above the floor and falling into the room. I'm glad that got finally fixed. If it's cloned from a Bethesda created cell then my apologies. I'd assume that pchs made the home area unless I discover otherwise. Edited April 6, 2022 by Balgin
Monoman1 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balgin said: Bethesda didn't create the cell. Normally there isn't a house there at all. I remember early versions of the mod, stepping in through the door involved appearing 7 or 8 feet above the floor and falling into the room. I'm glad that got finally fixed. If it's cloned from a Bethesda created cell then my apologies. I'd assume that pchs made the home area unless I discover otherwise. Pretty sure it's a (modified) clone of whiterun stables?
Balgin Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Monoman1 said: Pretty sure it's a (modified) clone of whiterun stables? It could very well be. In al these years I've never set foot inside that building. Thanks for informing me.
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