Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[lorddenorstrus]

Wow, you have added a lot.  It looks quite impressive.

[Desvati]

On 4/12/2022 at 9:08 PM, Monoman1 said:

There's probably more I've forgotten but that's a shit ton of work for 11 bullet points...

Locking the door if we can ever figure out how to get it to stick!

[snipers69]

Does anyone have a working sse version? I am not getting the alternate start option in the beginning.

 

no, none of the "tweak" versions worked.

Edited April 17, 2022 by snipers69

[safado]

13 minutes ago, snipers69 said:

Does anyone have a working sse version? I am not getting the alternate start option in the beginning.

 

Go back up to any Monoman1 post and open the bottom "Spoiler" for link to the latest LE and SE Wartime tweaked beta versions. (tweaked is also full mod) 

SE link is near the red font Known Issues. It has a MCM manual start, as an option.

  Known issue:  Very old version (older than 9) will not relocate some assets during upgrade because of the way Skyrim record semi-permanent static assets location in save files.  Recommend new game.

Edited April 17, 2022 by safado

[lcewolf]

@Monoman1

 

Since ou PC seems to like to have a journal,

 

I was wondering if it was possible to update our journal or the quest with the state of mind of the PC with her Stepfather?

 

Exemple;

 

Father and sex

• Mother is gone now, i will obey at Father and do all is task for the sake of mother.
• I just did a blowjob at my own father! Strangely the taste was not too bad as I had feared.
• I can't believe that my first time was with my Father! 
• Father told me i will get use to get my ass banged...  It's painful for now.

State of mind

• Everything that was done to me by father was in my best interest and that of mother. I need to be a good girl.
• I spend most of my time naked with one or all my holes leaking with cum. I guess it's was my reason to be.
• I am a slave. It was ma destiny.

• I used to delude myself. I thought I was superior to animals in the past and I considered that they should serve us like cattle and not the other way around. I was wrong.

Dog

• The dog.. I can still smell his dog smell on me. I can't believe father asked me to do this. I will try to serve him better.
• Father watched the whole scene to make sure I swallowed every last drop of cum from the dog. I can feel my stomach is full and i am not hungry anymore.
• I should have seen it coming. Father looked at me smiling while I was being fucked by the dog. I feel like I'm going to be leaking cum for days. I should serve father better.
• The dog' cock was stuck inside my asshole. Since i am not good enough for serving father i should get use to this. Father is right i deserve it.

 

Same thing for the be fully clothes to nude, Liquid diet, etc...

 

The general idea is knowing the state of mind of our PC for immersion. She first resist then she starting to break.

PC's mindset slowly begins to accept her new reality as a new barrier is straddled. I don't know if it could be modifiy in the journal or add

as memo ( Me and father #1-2-3-4, Dog, etc..) in the inventory or change is in the Quest.

 

It's a lot of text but i am sure me or any other won't mind write idea if you think it's a good idea and you are interrested.

 

Thank you again for your time.

 

 

Edited April 19, 2022 by lcewolf

[Monoman1]

On 4/14/2022 at 4:03 AM, lorddenorstrus said:

Wow, you have added a lot.  It looks quite impressive.

None of them finished yet. Some half done. Others not even started so... deep breath.

6 hours ago, snipers69 said:

Does anyone have a working sse version? I am not getting the alternate start option in the beginning.

 

no, none of the "tweak" versions worked.

Save and reload usually fixes this for me. Also make sure WT is below alternate start.

4 hours ago, lcewolf said:

Since ou PC seems to like to have a journal,

It's not a bad idea but there's two problems as I see it.

 

1. Books are ridiculously difficult to make dynamic in any way. To make my point, I think the only way to do something like this is to create a hidden cell, fill it with npcs and then set their display name via script to journal entries (Npc.SetDisplayName("Father raped me") and link entries in the book with their names. And I don't even know if that'd work. Names probably have a string limit. To be quite frank it's a seriously piss poor implementation for an rpg...

 

2. We can't really know the mindset of the PC really. I could put "I should obey daddy totally' and the PC could decide to turn around and murder father

 

But it's not a bad idea. Maybe is all I can say. But I'll definitely be looking for help for the text if I can get a system that works.

[Desvati]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

But it's not a bad idea. Maybe is all I can say. But I'll definitely be looking for help for the text if I can get a system that works.

If it ever becomes a thing, I'm sure we can crank out somethin'!

[Poodledee]

11 hours ago, lcewolf said:

@Monoman1

 

Since ou PC seems to like to have a journal,

 

I was wondering if it was possible to update our journal or the quest with the state of mind of the PC with her Stepfather?

 

Exemple;

 

Father and sex

• Mother is gone now, i will obey at Father and do all is task for the sake of mother.
• I just did a blowjob at my own father! Strangely the taste was not too bad as I had feared.
• I can't believe that my first time was with my Father! 
• Father told me i will get use to get my ass banged...  It's painful for now.

State of mind

• Everything that was done to me by father was in my best interest and that of mother. I need to be a good girl.
• I spend most of my time naked with one or all my holes leaking with cum. I guess it's was my reason to be.
• I am a slave. I was ma destiny.

• I used to delude myself. I thought I was superior to animals in the past and I considered that they should serve us like cattle and not the other way around. I was wrong.

Dog

• The dog.. I can still smell his dog smell on me. I can't believe father asked me to do this. I will try to serve him better.
• Father watched the whole scene to make sure I swallowed every last drop of cum from the dog. I can feel my stomach is full and i am not hungry anymore.
• I should have seen it coming. Father looked at me smiling while I was being fucked by the dog. I feel like I'm going to be leaking cum for days. I should serve father better.
• The dog' cock was stuck inside my asshole. Since i am not good enough for serving father i should get use to this. Father is right i deserve it.

 

Same thing for the be fully clothes to nude, Liquid diet, etc...

 

The general idea is knowing the state of mind of our PC for immersion. She first resist then she starting to break.

PC's mindset slowly begins to accept her new reality as a new barrier is straddled. I don't know if it could be modifiy in the journal or add

as memo ( Me and father #1-2-3-4, Dog, etc..) in the inventory or change is in the Quest.

 

It's a lot of text but i am sure me or any other won't mind write idea if you think it's a good idea and you are interrested.

 

Thank you again for your time.

 

 

Theoretically with the mod "Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn" you could do this yourself.

[Alis_999]

On 4/13/2022 at 1:08 AM, Monoman1 said:

11. See if I can unlink all the direct references to father and 'uncentralize' him. This will be painful... but it should hopefully allow you to swap in/out father variations. Possibly even vanilla npcs... want nazeem to be your daddy? It might be possible... though I don't know about killing essential npcs...

Eh, need to use NPCs, don't touched by vanilla quests, or troubles... troubles... troubles... Hey, may be you change Father Redguard race to OldRace? :3

Edited April 17, 2022 by Alis_999

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Alis_999 said:

Eh, need to use NPCs, don't touched by vanilla quests, or troubles... troubles... troubles... Hey, may be you change Father Redguard race to OldRace? :3

Main purpose is not to use vanilla npcs but simply to swap father for other races/models. But it would be interesting to see what'd happen with a vanilla npc. 

[Alis_999]

15 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Main purpose is not to use vanilla npcs but simply to swap father for other races/models. But it would be interesting to see what'd happen with a vanilla npc. 

If you create duplicate with another BaseID and EditorID - nothing.

Edited April 18, 2022 by Alis_999

[RCage]

Sorry for this question as it probably gets asked a lot (search function seems a bit janky): What should be happening at the Slave Wife ending? I play on SE with Being Female, have progressed as far as getting the dialogue to accept being a slave wife and have given birth. The only change I have noticed is that I can no longer ask after mother. Are there any other changes I should be expecting? Also, does the Being Female options regarding what is born matter?

 

I really love this mod, great work!

[Alis_999]

15 minutes ago, RCage said:

Sorry for this question as it probably gets asked a lot (search function seems a bit janky): What should be happening at the Slave Wife ending? I play on SE with Being Female, have progressed as far as getting the dialogue to accept being a slave wife and have given birth. The only change I have noticed is that I can no longer ask after mother. Are there any other changes I should be expecting? Also, does the Being Female options regarding what is born matter?

 

I really love this mod, great work!

In the Slave Wife ending you need to serve Father until you kill him, because this endless serve

[RCage]

28 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

In the Slave Wife ending you need to serve Father until you kill him, because this endless serve

Appreciated, thank you   Does Father react to the new child, like new tasks to do? I noticed I should be using Fertility Mode instead of BF, so maybe I'm not as current as I thought.

[kapibar]

3 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

In the Slave Wife ending you need to serve Father until you kill him, because this endless serve

You can also royally fuck things up and be kicked out of the house.

[RCage]

47 minutes ago, kapibar said:

You can also royally fuck things up and be kicked out of the house.

Good to know, thanks

[Alis_999]

4 hours ago, RCage said:

Appreciated, thank you   Does Father react to the new child, like new tasks to do? I noticed I should be using Fertility Mode instead of BF, so maybe I'm not as current as I thought.

Yes, a few new mini-quests if Fertility Mod installed

[RCage]

52 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

Yes, a few new mini-quests if Fertility Mod installed

Sweet! Looks like I'm going to have to switch to Fertility Mode  

 

Also, quick question popped in: The supply run quest where you go to Whiterun wearing nothing but a mask, I saw a message in the corner of the screen saying something like "so-and-so saw you, lost reputation." Does reputation work like Submission, Depravity and Favour? What happens if you lose reputation? 

[Alis_999]

1 hour ago, RCage said:

Also, quick question popped in: The supply run quest where you go to Whiterun wearing nothing but a mask, I saw a message in the corner of the screen saying something like "so-and-so saw you, lost reputation." Does reputation work like Submission, Depravity and Favour? What happens if you lose reputation? 

This is temporary debuff for trade in Whiterun

Edited April 18, 2022 by Alis_999

[safado]

4 hours ago, RCage said:

Sweet! Looks like I'm going to have to switch to Fertility Mode  

 

 

In SkyrimSE you will also need the patch, Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks.  FMv3 has to be installed without optional plugins and as BSA instead of loose files for the patch to work properly.

  Do not know of similar for LE.

 

Edited April 19, 2022 by safado

[snipers69]

Is beeing female integration still a thing ?

[kapibar]

7 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

This is temporary debuff for trade in Whiterun

I don't think this debuff is temporary.

[Alis_999]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

I don't think this debuff is temporary.

Just open esp file and look Spell category

Edited April 19, 2022 by Alis_999

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

Just open esp file and look Spell category

Nah, too lazy. I'll take your word for it if you already did the legwork .

[Monoman1]

  

13 hours ago, RCage said:

Sweet! Looks like I'm going to have to switch to Fertility Mode  

 

Also, quick question popped in: The supply run quest where you go to Whiterun wearing nothing but a mask, I saw a message in the corner of the screen saying something like "so-and-so saw you, lost reputation." Does reputation work like Submission, Depravity and Favour? What happens if you lose reputation? 

 

4 hours ago, kapibar said:

I don't think this debuff is temporary.

 

2 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

Just open esp file and look Spell category

It's sort of permanently temporary - refreshed between supply runs. Initially, default reputation is good. So at the start of every supply run your reputation is clear. Once Belethor starts extorting you, slut reputation is default and the only way to have somewhere decent to trade in whiterun is to cooperate with Belethor. 

 

It's got a duration approximately equal to the max days between runs (set dynamically via script based on mcm settings and timescale) so as to be enough as to be 'pseudo permanent' while you are cooperating with father. But not permanent such that any hiccups or killing father or otherwise ending the mod then it won't be refreshed and you won't be stuck with a massive trading penalty in Whiterun. 

 

There is supposed to be 'special stock' added to belethor if you cooperate which includes:

extra trading gold

YPS makeup

SLS cumtainers

blacksmith stuff

apothecary stuff

 

But there's something funny going on with it. Some pattern I'm not getting. Something to do with opening the contents of the trade container before or after the stock is added. Seems like some kind of weird bethesda stuff again. Something to keep an eye on. Gold is the easiest indicator. 

6 hours ago, snipers69 said:

Is beeing female integration still a thing ?

Yes. I think the features are currently the same if BF or FM is installed (I can't think of any difference atm) but from experience it seems it's easier to pull more information from FM. So there may be better integration with FM in the future. 

 

Also SLS prefers FM for some minor things.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Monoman1