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[ButchDiavolo]

Ashal, could you please create an alternative way of supporting LoversLab, besides Subscribestar? I want to continue supporting, but I can't now since I don't have a credit card. Maybe there is a way to create a paypall account where us creditcardless can donate?

[MadMansGun]

31 minutes ago, ButchDiavolo said:

Ashal, could you please create an alternative way of supporting LoversLab, besides Subscribestar? I want to continue supporting, but I can't now since I don't have a credit card. Maybe there is a way to create a paypall account where us creditcardless can donate?

paypall is a bad idea, it has all the same issues as patreon, many years ago they locked furaffinity's support account and stole somewhere around $2000 from it.

 

just get a prepay/travel credit card.

[ButchDiavolo]

35 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

paypall is a bad idea, it has all the same issues as patreon, many years ago they locked furaffinity's support account and stole somewhere around $2000 from it.

 

just get a prepay/travel credit card.

Wow, that is ridiculous! OK, so Paypall is not an option. Unfortunately I can't get ANY kind of credit card. I guess I can't continue to support for now then

[Psalam]

5 minutes ago, ButchDiavolo said:

Wow, that is ridiculous! OK, so Paypall is not an option. Unfortunately I can't get ANY kind of credit card. I guess I can't continue to support for now then

You may not be familiar with what @MadMansGun is suggesting. Anywhere you can but a gift card (like to a restaurant or for Steam) you can buy a prepaid credit card. Since the amount is paid at the time of purchase it is absolutely independent of your credit score/history. You can find them at big box stores like WalMart and grocery stores like Kroger for example.

[MadMansGun]

22 minutes ago, Psalam said:

You may not be familiar with what @MadMansGun is suggesting. Anywhere you can but a gift card (like to a restaurant or for Steam) you can buy a prepaid credit card. Since the amount is paid at the time of purchase it is absolutely independent of your credit score/history. You can find them at big box stores like WalMart and grocery stores like Kroger for example.

some banks also provide them directly, the card i use basically just acts like a second account on there website and i can reload it directly from my account when needed.

 

they usually don't care about credit scores for them because no cash = unusable card. so they are also a good way to avoid getting into debt in the first place.

[Mister X]

13 hours ago, Psalam said:

You may not be familiar with what @MadMansGun is suggesting. Anywhere you can but a gift card (like to a restaurant or for Steam) you can buy a prepaid credit card. Since the amount is paid at the time of purchase it is absolutely independent of your credit score/history. You can find them at big box stores like WalMart and grocery stores like Kroger for example.

 

12 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

some banks also provide them directly, the card i use basically just acts like a second account on there website and i can reload it directly from my account when needed.

 

they usually don't care about credit scores for them because no cash = unusable card. so they are also a good way to avoid getting into debt in the first place.

 

That may be true in the US, but I can definitely tell you that you won't find such cards in any store in Germany. At least I have never seen them in any European country, but there I'm not that sure.

[ButchDiavolo]

4 hours ago, Mister X said:

 

 

That may be true in the US, but I can definitely tell you that you won't find such cards in any store in Germany. At least I have never seen them in any European country, but there I'm not that sure.

 

Nor in the Netherlands. We just have "regular" credit cards, with base rule and fees, which I just can't afford the days.

[Guest]

20 hours ago, Mister X said:

 

 

That may be true in the US, but I can definitely tell you that you won't find such cards in any store in Germany. At least I have never seen them in any European country, but there I'm not that sure.

> We don't have them either.

[Slorm]

On 4/28/2024 at 11:53 AM, Mister X said:

 

 

That may be true in the US, but I can definitely tell you that you won't find such cards in any store in Germany. At least I have never seen them in any European country, but there I'm not that sure.

 

We used to have them in the UK but I've not seen any around for some years now

[NCK30]

On 4/27/2024 at 1:05 PM, MadMansGun said:

i got mine down to one page

 

to anyone else reading go here to find/delete any unnecessary crap you may have

https://www.loverslab.com/attachments/

i found a bunch of stuff from deleted inbox messages in there.

 

As MadMansGun is saying. LoversLab is so SLOWWWW after 14.00 in Denmark.

 

Please people. Clean your attachments. I just did it. But it has no effect if only 2 people clean.

 

 

I also had attachments to PM's that no longer exists. Please make it a priority. New uploads will fail all the time with this speed.

 

I deleted 2500 attachments from all back to 2019. Multiply that with thousands of users. Well no need to do the math.

[Hex Bolt]

On 4/27/2024 at 7:05 AM, MadMansGun said:

to anyone else reading go here to find/delete any unnecessary crap you may have

https://www.loverslab.com/attachments/

i found a bunch of stuff from deleted inbox messages in there.

As MadMansGun noted, attachments on deleted inbox messages remain in the system.  I found large attachments on messages that I'd deleted years ago.  I've manually deleted them, but probably not many people are going to read about this and bother to take action.  However, this knowledge might be useful to @Ashal.  If attachments on deleted PMs can be deleted at the time the message is deleted, or at least purged after a reasonable aging period, that might free up quite a bit of storage and spare Ashal's budget from ever-increasing storage needs.

[深淵の神]

1 hour ago, NCK30 said:

Please people. Clean your attachments. I just did it. But it has no effect if only 2 people clean.

 

I also had attachments to PM's that no longer exists. Please make it a priority. New uploads will fail all the time with this speed.

 

I deleted 2500 attachments from all back to 2019. Multiply that with thousands of users. Well no need to do the math.

 

34 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

As MadMansGun noted, attachments on deleted inbox messages remain in the system.  I found large attachments on messages that I'd deleted years ago.  I've manually deleted them, but probably not many people are going to read about this and bother to take action.

 

Yup, you are right. People could also start using spoilers to hide their damn ultra 8k image photoshoots just to let us know that they can compete with nasa, just saying.

Spoiler

this thing

 

[NCK30]

11 minutes ago, サマエル said:

 

 

Yup, you are right. People could also start using spoilers to hide their damn ultra 8k image photoshoots just to let us know that they can compete with nasa, just saying.

  Reveal hidden contents

this thing

 

 

Yeah Spoilers when showing more than 2 pics would be great too.

 

Maybe delete the "Post Your Sex Screenshots" thread and start over.

 

Currently 789 pages with 30+ pics on every page. Has been done several times before.

 

 

When I deleted my attachments I downloaded backups for my best pics on my HDD. If You really want to keep the pics then just do this.

[Grey Cloud]

If this deleting of attachments etc is so critical then why hasn't Ashal or whoever issued a site-wide notification asking peeps to do it? Meanwhile we can have DRAMA!

[SpyVsPie]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

As MadMansGun noted, attachments on deleted inbox messages remain in the system.  I found large attachments on messages that I'd deleted years ago.  I've manually deleted them, but probably not many people are going to read about this and bother to take action.  However, this knowledge might be useful to @Ashal.  If attachments on deleted PMs can be deleted at the time the message is deleted, or at least purged after a reasonable aging period, that might free up quite a bit of storage and spare Ashal's budget from ever-increasing storage needs.

Yeah I was taking a look at the attachments page MadmansGun linked a few days ago and noticed at least half of mine were from deleted content (not just inbox messages but also posts, blog entries, etc) but seemingly still in the system. Manually axed them all.

[NCK30]

57 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

If this deleting of attachments etc is so critical then why hasn't Ashal or whoever issued a site-wide notification asking peeps to do it? Meanwhile we can have DRAMA!

 

Common sense would tell us that no site can continue on taking GB or TB of data. I wondered that myself.

 

We apparantly have reached the limit.

 

It is not proper that Ashal needs to buy a new server to accomodate us users. At no small expense mind You.

 

 

Better that we learn how to conduct ourselves and avoid these issues in the future. 

[MysticDaedra]

1 hour ago, NCK30 said:

 

Common sense would tell us that no site can continue on taking GB or TB of data. I wondered that myself.

 

We apparantly have reached the limit.

 

It is not proper that Ashal needs to buy a new server to accomodate us users. At no small expense mind You.

 

 

Better that we learn how to conduct ourselves and avoid these issues in the future. 

I tend to disagree on principle. Unless there is a rule or limit imposed on the users, de facto there is no limit for the users. It is up to the owners/administrators to impose such a limit if it is needed.

 

This is a modding site. It should be expected, even encouraged for it to grow over time. The only real solution would be to eliminate file uploads/downloads entirely, at which point it stops becoming a modding site and instead reverts to a modding forum. Bottom line: the storage needs of the site will continue to grow in perpetuity. The only real solution to this (assuming it is considered a "problem", which imo it is not) is to eliminate uploads to the site. Unfortunately that would remove a core feature/function, and most people except for a few of us who have been around a long time, will stop using or visiting Loverslab.

 

EDIT: I just noticed that the "max total size" for post attachments is 19.3 GIGABYTES. WTF? That should change lol. Maybe 100mb or something.

Edited April 29, 2024 by MysticDaedra

[Grey Cloud]

34 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

just noticed that the "max total size" for post attachments is 19.3 GIGABYTES. WTF? That should change lol. Maybe 100mb or something.

I think that is the amount of the 20GB max allowance you have left. I have 18.04GB having used up 1.95GB. Use the link posted by MMG and you will see the percentage you have used and files you have accumulated.

I have 115 pages worth of images at 25 images per page. This means 2,875 images but is only 1.95GB because I only post jpegs.

 

1 hour ago, NCK30 said:

Common sense would tell us that no site can continue on taking GB or TB of data.

But that is a different issue. Files just sat sitting there on hard drives don't slow down the site.

 

All of this is just reinforcing my earlier point. Either we have something from Ashal or whoever or we have all this speculation and drama from people who think they understand the problem and are in a position to proffer solutions. Dunning-Kruger Effect for the win.

[Ashal]

The storage space issue is different from the performance issue. Both are problems at the moment, but to different degrees. The hope at the moment is that the new file server, which should be set up sometime this week, will help solve both issues, as it'll double the amount of storage space while also taking some of the traffic load off the current servers.

[pinky6225]

On 4/28/2024 at 11:53 AM, Mister X said:

 

 

That may be true in the US, but I can definitely tell you that you won't find such cards in any store in Germany. At least I have never seen them in any European country, but there I'm not that sure.

 

On 4/28/2024 at 4:52 PM, ButchDiavolo said:

 

Nor in the Netherlands. We just have "regular" credit cards, with base rule and fees, which I just can't afford the days.

 

15 hours ago, Evaloves4 said:

> We don't have them either.

 

10 hours ago, Slorm said:

 

We used to have them in the UK but I've not seen any around for some years now

 

I'm surprised bank accounts work so differently elsewhere in the world, my UK account with Barclays comes with a debit card (money removed at time of transaction) which works with subscribestar so no need for a credit card (money gets added to a bill you need to pay later) so it seems odd peeps have an issue

 

Guess you peeps still use cash when you go buy stuff from shops

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised bank accounts work so differently elsewhere in the world, my UK account with Barclays comes with a debit card (money removed at time of transaction) which works with subscribestar so no need for a credit card (money gets added to a bill you need to pay later) so it seems odd peeps have an issue

 

Guess you peeps still use cash when you go buy stuff from shops

> I use more of my credit card since I work a lot and have no time to shop. But when I go shopping I mostly pay with my credit card.

[pinky6225]

16 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> I use more of my credit card since I work a lot and have no time to shop. But when I go shopping I mostly pay with my credit card.

 

And is it an actual credit card (has a credit limit, isn't deducted from bank account straight away, you receive a monthly statement you need to pay off) and not actually a debit card and either way if you have that what would stop you using that on subscribestar?

 

As i previous said i find it weird that debit cards are a UK thing and not available elsewhere, i can understand peeps not wanting to have a credit card for the risk of getting into debt they can't afford but literally having no means of making a payment from there bank account when debit cards have been a thing for like 3 decades in the UK just seems weird

 

For clarity/incase this is being lost in translation this is the exact same card i can go to a cash machine/ATM and stick it in and enter a pin and take cash out

Edited April 29, 2024 by pinky6225

[Guest]

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

 

And is it an actual credit card (has a credit limit, isn't deducted from bank account straight away, you receive a monthly statement you need to pay off) and not actually a debit card and either way if you have that what would stop you using that on subscribestar?

 

As i previous said i find it weird that debit cards are a UK thing and not available elsewhere, i can understand peeps not wanting to have a credit card for the risk of getting into debt they can't afford but literally having no means of making a payment from there bank account when debit cards have been a thing for like 3 decades in the UK just seems weird

 

For clarity/incase this is being lost in translation this is the exact same card i can go to a cash machine/ATM and stick it in and enter a pin and take cash out

> It is an actual credit card with a credit limit and so on. If I stopped getting my salary on it or if I stopped putting the money on it, they would cancel it after a few warnings. I can purchase the money or add the money to my bank account on the bank machine.

[MysticDaedra]

4 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

 

And is it an actual credit card (has a credit limit, isn't deducted from bank account straight away, you receive a monthly statement you need to pay off) and not actually a debit card and either way if you have that what would stop you using that on subscribestar?

 

As i previous said i find it weird that debit cards are a UK thing and not available elsewhere, i can understand peeps not wanting to have a credit card for the risk of getting into debt they can't afford but literally having no means of making a payment from there bank account when debit cards have been a thing for like 3 decades in the UK just seems weird

 

For clarity/incase this is being lost in translation this is the exact same card i can go to a cash machine/ATM and stick it in and enter a pin and take cash out

We have debit cards (also known as bank cards, ATM cards, or cash cards) in the US as well. And they work exactly how you describe: swipe/insert/tap, immediate withdrawal from bank, no credit. Exception is gasoline, for some reason gas stations put a cash hold for like $150 whenever you buy gas with a debit card, effectively making the gas purchase a temporary credit.

[MadMansGun]

those are called interac in canada, but they are not usable on websites outside of canada.

Edited April 30, 2024 by MadMansGun