For the five users that still think the Nexus is your buddy.

[27X]

10 minutes ago, MrFuturehope said:

Is it just me or some parts of that wall of text sound exactly like this guy? For example the part about files deletion, or the part about allowing mod authors to opt-out of the collection system...

 

 

 

Oh, it gets better when you read the deletion form. They literally try to you guilt you into giving them full control of both your mods and your account.

[Vader666]

Surprise, surprise... a company trying to maximize its profit, who would've thought about that.

 

 

[Roggvir]

I wonder if LL is ready for any possible influx of mods which may get moved here from Nexus.

Should i move my mods from Nexus to here? ...of course i only wish for LL to grow, but since the site often seems to have problems keeping up with the traffic as it is, i am a bit worried it could do more harm than good (in case enough other ppl get the same idea).
I guess there is no other place anyway, right?

[Tlam99]

Maybe help Ashal to prepare ?

 

[Darkpig]

So what we can’t remove our mods if we’re ashamed of it?

[FauxFurry]

10 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

So what we can’t remove our mods if we’re ashamed of it?

No. The shame can never be erased. It will be eternal and external.

On the upside, it will be the Nexus' shame rather than the modder's shame. 

[Kendo 2]

43 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

I wonder if LL is ready for any possible influx of mods which may get moved here from Nexus.

Some of those Nerxus modders won't come here because of the sex/rape/bestiality content.  They want a 'legitimate' site without porn ads.

 

46 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

I guess there is no other place anyway, right?

DoubleZero over at NSFWMods.com has been working on a secondary site for a while now.  From what I understand it is regular site with modern and up-to-date features; social boards, image hosting, clubs, dedicated servers, etc.  In light of Dork0ne's power grab over at Nerxus DoubleZero will be adding additional servers and software for uploading and downloading.  To the best of my knowledge the new site is not 'adult'.

[MrFuturehope]

Thanks Nexus... for this great change that will make it all much better and easier for mod users to mod their game...

[Kendo 2]

Today we had the Commercial Law League attorney we use for UCC filings and such in the office.  I showed him Dork0ne's announcement and he was confused about the terminology (he's not a gamer) BUT did understand what Dork0ne is trying to do.  He said 'Not only is it illegal in the U.S. but in Great Britain too.'

 

His opinion in a nutshell: In the U.S., hosting or providing a service does not trump creative control.  In GB, they have a law that prevents companies from holding your documents or amassing information about you you don't have access to.  File the paper work and they have to release it to you; they don't have a choice.  In the U.S. Dork0ne would get slaughtered in court.

 

So Dork0ne CAN do what he's doing until people start standing up to him in a legal sense.  I think Dork0ne is on the shortlist for DMCA takedown orders and cease and desist notices. 

Edited July 3, 2021 by Kendo 2

[MonVert]

6 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

Dork0ne

 

6 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

Dork0ne

 

 

Are you trying to summon Beetlejuice, or do you just have an agenda?

[Kendo 2]

3 minutes ago, MonVert said:

Are you trying to summon Beetlejuice, or do you just have an agenda?

I use Dork0ne and Nerxus so the real names won't show up in a search.  I'm not about to legitimize that cunt or his shit-stain site by using the real names.

[MadMansGun]

13 minutes ago, MrFuturehope said:

Thanks Nexus... for this great change that will make it all much better and easier for mod users to mod their game...

well......not having anything to install will certainty make mod conflicts a thing of the past

[Wolfshrike]

6 hours ago, CPU said:

For sure they are the biggest ones. And they store way more mods than many other communities together.

Now, the problem is not really for final users. Because you will be always able to go there, grab the mods you want, and ignore all the rest.

 

The "problem" is more for who creates the mods. Were Nexus can do pretty much whatever they want with the mods you upload there.

For a few modders this is a big problem, for others they do not care.

 

Then there is the secondary discussion about what they will do with the mods. And that is not 100% clear.

Maybe create pack of mods, maybe change the mods on their own.

That is mostly speculation right now.

 

I mean, to some extent the problem is for the end user though, even if it's only a hypothetical one. That is, now we're far more likely to have to go digging around the 'net to find mods, and it's possible that bunches of things are going to be behind paywalls or limited to private discords, that sort of thing. Right now Nexus is making a move that, honestly, I fear is going to be harmful to the scene overall. I know I'm not going to release  any of the projects I've been working on there, now. 

[Guest]

Just wait til someone finds an exploit in their system to get access to old mods that were set to hidden indefinitely, I can already see that happening, especially if they go by the number scheme they are currently using for URLs

[Darkpig]

40 minutes ago, MonVert said:

Are you trying to summon Beetlejuice

I'm probably missing the point but that comment was just funny.

[Just Don't]

21 minutes ago, Nameless God said:

Just wait til someone finds an exploit in their system to get access to old mods that were set to hidden indefinitely, I can already see that happening, especially if they go by the number scheme they are currently using for URLs

You only need google.

[Kendo 2]

Dork0ne probably hasn't formed the new user group yet to block people from their own mods.  Most likely he made the announcement to stir up a bunch of shit and see how it plays out.  That's his go-to tactic; he did it when Steam contacted him about being a verified site for the paid mods fiasco, and when he used the $250,000 he solicited for server upgrades to buy a condo and go on a vacation.  He's a worm and people are stupid.

[Zor2k13]

Maybe this guy sees something beth is doing or suspects and knows it won't be long before he can't make money anymore? We can see the direction beth is going and it is the same direction that microsoft is going with their peasantbox and gamepass crap. Game companies have been roping in people for years now to these "pass" things trying to get people online and signed up and locked down as much as possible. They want absolute control over what we do with the things they make and sell. When there is no longer profit in modding what would nexus do? All beth would have to do is fix their shitty site and do better than nexus at handling mods oh wait, they already did that with the atomic shop and press F for 76. Mods are made by beth only for that game and players get herded into the slaughterhouse where they are fleeced and screwed over every month. All those super duper micro transactions. I've seen things in that game like inventory you can't store or drop if you want to keep it then you have to go craft it again or find it again or of course, buy it again. They are monetizing every single dam thing in a game. I'm surprised the dam thing doesn't mine bitcoin at this point. They are making money hand over fist while nexus is still struggling to make money. Nexus won't last against an entire industry hell bent on the same long term goal and with beth and m$ merged that becomes more realistic outcome. 

 

Everyone is taking advantage of a good crisis right now, govts companies everyone they are not letting it go to waste. Nobody is going to really complain like they used to back in the day about video games right now. Remember when the pentium III had that identifier thing turned on by default so websites could identify every single computer that used it? Yeah people flipped their shit until mobo manufacturers had to set it to disabled by default and intel caught some serious flak for it. Now people get data mined by no less than five things around them at all times and could care less about it. Don't ever leave your cell phone sitting near you for long periods of time unless you want it to start showing you things in subtle ways that you are supposedly interested in.

[shadowlord445]

They just can't leave well enough alone, can they?

[InsolentTedium]

2 hours ago, MrFuturehope said:

Thanks Nexus... for this great change that will make it all much better and easier for mod users to mod their game...

...or, like the rest of us you can just choose not to be self entitled and lazy...I personally would much rather not see the Modders get scr*wed over, which is what is happening, I'm not a Modder, but what I realize is these people are creating their Mods for free, in their own time and being generous enough to share their Mods with others, yet they should roll over? I am sad to see Modders leaving Nexus, but I support them in their choice. No one has any right to try and take ownership of their work, DO hasn't bought their Mods, he hasn't paid for them, in fact his making a big fat purse off them and now his demanding they hand over the reins and rights of their Mods to him, it's reprehensible.

 

I'm a 50 year old woman, basically Computer illiterate, when I first began loading Mods into my Game I had just gotten past pretty much just learning where the 'On' Switch is on a PC, no Computer experience what so ever, even now I'm still using the NMM because I can't get my head around MO2 and argued too much with Vortex... but I do have a 200+ Mods Game running, including Physics, etc...without a hiccup, no CTD's, no freeze. Yet you're telling us people half my age with a great deal more Computer experience than I need their over entitled hands held to have a Modded Game... Pull your head in MrFutureHope and have a little regard for the people who put out these products for free.

[Darkpig]

18 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I suppose i could point out here that there is currently no owner to mod Captured Dreams. No offense to person who created it, but that's just a fact. Can you link to its copyright or claim of ownership? No? It's probably being uploaded in social media or different language sites as we speak. The problem with that being that they can freely modify it and even change its content as much as they like. You no longer need to care about disclaimers like mods like Devious Devices would have. Imagine mod page gone, disclaimers invalid.

 

So i will say it again, modders shoot themselves in the foot by deleting their mods. There is never a reason to do that. And this is not really so much players being entitled it's mod creators thinking too highly of themselves.

I have to agree with the whole legal statement that Dark0ne has no legal say in the matter but it is still kind of a dick move denying mod authors a right to delete their work. I do appreciate somebody playing devil's advocate but feel free to use this quote "This is my gun and my foot so I can do whatever the fuck I want to it." - Darkpig

 

I remember Ashal being very clear on the rights of modders to do what they want via reading the Community Rules. But yeah people like the option. People will always act like they are top shit leaving or not.

[phillout]

59 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

I have to agree with the whole legal statement that Dark0ne has no legal say in the matter but it is still kind of a dick move denying mod authors a right to delete their work.

 

 

A "dick move"? I'd say "a dick move" is a bit of an understatement, look, those files deleted can only be accessed through their site API, and Nexus charges money for the access to said API. Premium users? Rings a bell?

 

IOW - they make money from distributing the author's work despite the author's request to stop it.

 

I'd say it's a bit more than just a "dick move". To me this is something outright illegal.

[Darkpig]

7 minutes ago, phillout said:

 

A "dick move"? I'd say "a dick move" is a bit of an understatement, look, those files deleted can only be accessed through their site API, and Nexus charges money for the access to said API. Premium users? Rings a bell?

 

IOW - they make money from distributing the author's work despite the author's request to stop it.

 

I'd say it's a bit more than just a "dick move". To me this is something outright illegal.

I'm used to the modding community doing stupid shit legal or otherwise.

[Reginald_001]

[edit] Ok.. I'll keep it 'civil'.

 

What Nexus did is NOT civilized. It's low, it's akin to thievery. And it shows just what kind of parasitic entity Nexus really is. It's supposed to be a symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one.

Edited July 3, 2021 by Reginald_001

[RegretfulTwink]

I will freely admit that I am both disappointed and fucking pissed as hell over this. I'm not an old school Modder. I've only been using mods since about 2016. And I've only recently started taking modding seriously. I started a big mod project (not a loverslab project, working my way up to that) a few mouths ago, and was excitedly sharing my progress within the discord servers I'm apart of since I started it. When I was just a user, I lurked. I didn't say anything, or interact with anyone. I just downloaded the mods I like and went back to playing the game. My point with this is I didn't about the drama that's happened with Nexus before hand. All I had was a general sense that the staff over there were, well, sorta dicks.

 

I've spent so many hours into the dumb mod that I know only a few handful of people will care about. But now, now I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do with it. I don't wanna just hand it over to them and bend over for my ass fucking. No sir, I fucking refuse. So now, now there isn't a hope that someone else will find my mod and light it. I know it's dumb, unimportant shit, but I fucking care about it. A little too much if I'm honest.

 

Okay, okay. So my true point to all of this is that joining the modding scene has meant a lot to me. It's really helped me with getting through this later half of this unending nightmare that is the pandemic. And now, something I've wanted to be a put of for years, for fucking years, is dying just as I was starting to get my footing into the scene. I mean, Fallout 3 came out when I was fairly young and playing on console back then I would come up with mod ideas. Some were shit, but some of them I have started to make because now I can. But the nexus have royally fucked the community and it's unclear where it's heading. I'm trying not to be too doomer about this. Maybe a new site will come. Maybe, by some fucking miracle, Nexus will see how fucking stupid this and abandon it. Or maybe... Maybe I just need to invest in some lube. Well, more lube anyway.

 

It's been my end goal to become part of the cummunity for a while now. That was where some of the mod work I've been doing is heading. To make really, really, REALLY, slutty horny 24/7 content for the (in my opinion) the under serviced part of the cummunity. I just hope this all works out some how, cause this shit really does fucking suck.

 

Uh, sorry to turn this into a mini vent/rent. Like I'm said, I'm really fucking upset about this change.