spaceman Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Are we nearly there yet? Are we nearly there yet? Are we nearly there yet?
Hatapa Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Not really familiar with modding, but there seem to be some mods that do some of the things mentioned as being problematic (could maybe look at those for solutions). Facial expressions: - Animated Prostitution (yes, those still seem to work) - Estrus (by using EDialog http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19169) - Sanguines Debauchery (expressions might be from Zaz however, since that mod changes femalehead.tri and mouthhuman.tri, just like EDialog, or something in that mod triggers EDialog, haven't really tested) Follow checks etc: - Animated Prostitution (speech check for following, don't have UFO so dunno about conflicts (absurd amounts of small utilities in this mod, which also seems to be uncommonly stable)). Hope this helps somewhat. Cheers.
Ailsa Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Anticipation is beginning to build up a head of steam
aravis7 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I hope the demo mod will work like cupid, I liked the ability to easily create scenes with the arrow spell ^^ can't wait ; )
dkunit Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 @Ashal Any idea if it is compatible with PC Exclusive Animation Pack?
threeddd33 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I feel like Al Bundy at the door waiting on a pizza.... going from foot to foot and looking out the window in anticipation.
Ashal Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 @Ashal Any idea if it is compatible with PC Exclusive Animation Pack? I just tried with PC Exclusive Animation, crashed to desktop every time I tried to start sex with somebody. I'll try and make it compatible if I can, though I wouldn't get my hopes up. I don't know why as I haven't looked into how it works yet, but I assume there's a good reason PCEA isn't compatible so many other animation mods. I won't look into it until after release either, I need to focus on getting it ready for the first release right now.
Hatapa Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Tried out the facial expression-thing: - Seems like mainly mouth moves with SD + ZaZ - Seems like mouth and brows move with SD + ZaZ + EDialog (while using the sex anims, only mouth during torture anims (i think!)) - AP moves mouth only (in pretty unnatural ways I must add) Worth checking out in any case i guess.
Ashal Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 Tried out the facial expression-thing: - Seems like mainly mouth moves with SD + ZaZ - Seems like mouth and brows move with SD + ZaZ + EDialog (while using the sex anims, only mouth during torture anims (i think!)) - AP moves mouth only (in pretty unnatural ways I must add) Worth checking out in any case i guess. I already have it set to move mouth and do facial expressions. Facial expression overrides are really broken for female faces at the moment though, for ALL mods. They work mostly fine for males, but females get stuck with weird eyebrows and a pained looking face, and clearing expression override doesn't put them back to normal, they get stuck like that for a couple minutes before it fixes itself.
lordofthedread Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Tried out the facial expression-thing: - Seems like mainly mouth moves with SD + ZaZ - Seems like mouth and brows move with SD + ZaZ + EDialog (while using the sex anims, only mouth during torture anims (i think!)) - AP moves mouth only (in pretty unnatural ways I must add) Worth checking out in any case i guess. I already have it set to move mouth and do facial expressions. Facial expression overrides are really broken for female faces at the moment though, for ALL mods. They work mostly fine for males, but females get stuck with weird eyebrows and a pained looking face, and clearing expression override doesn't put them back to normal, they get stuck like that for a couple minutes before it fixes itself. Yes this is a bug caused by 1.9 patch if I'm not mistaken, hope Beth will fix it soon
Ashal Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 As proof here is two screenshots, both of them set with expressions and both then having their expressions cleared back to default. Mood Fear (9): Mood Happy (10): Note they both look the same, and that they both didn't put her face back to normal after being cleared. Moving mouth will be in the release as that works fine, but I am disabling facial expressions in the mod until Beth fixes this. Supposed rumor is they a fix coming out soonish.
Hatapa Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Tried out the facial expression-thing: - Seems like mainly mouth moves with SD + ZaZ - Seems like mouth and brows move with SD + ZaZ + EDialog (while using the sex anims, only mouth during torture anims (i think!)) - AP moves mouth only (in pretty unnatural ways I must add) Worth checking out in any case i guess. I already have it set to move mouth and do facial expressions. Facial expression overrides are really broken for female faces at the moment though, for ALL mods. They work mostly fine for males, but females get stuck with weird eyebrows and a pained looking face, and clearing expression override doesn't put them back to normal, they get stuck like that for a couple minutes before it fixes itself. Seen that happen with those i mentioned, except AP. Anyway: looks like i misread the earlier posts and thought there was a consensus that expressions couldn't be done (especially since SexiS and SA seem to have trouble with them). Sorry about wasting your time when you're on a deadline =). Edit: Meant both mouth and expression, when i said expression.
Hatapa Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 On the other hand: I recently heard that post-coital tristesse is quite common!
Silk Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Ashal, I do have a question for you, how difficult would it be to create add ons for your mod? I have a load of ideas floating around that I actually want to see come to life, and may as well try my hand at it.
RockMic Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 For facial expressions suggest you take a look here http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32940
NicoleDragoness Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Abaout Facial Espressions: there are two console commands, one for espressions themselves and one for open mouth. They are, respectively: mfg espression X yyy (where X is the ID of the espression, number from 0 to 9 [maybe more, never tried], and yyy the value for the espression, like 050, 100, 200 and so on). the other one is: mfg phoneme X yyy (same as above). By my knowledge, the 1.9 patch has broken this commands and the related papyrus commands too. I don't hope about a fix by Beth for at least two reasons: 1. Beth has clearly declared that Skyrim is DEAD and no more addons or patches will be released. 2. Beth's guys are always only money interested. They NEVER care about "secondary" bugs or problems users could have, and this one, by their point of view, is not important due all their resources are focused on the release of a new game (probably Fallout 4).
NicoleDragoness Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 For facial expressions suggest you take a look here http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32940 Exactly what I wrote just above. Look at the first post in the comment area. The Author declares that the commands don't work if you have the 1.9 patch installed.
RockMic Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 For facial expressions suggest you take a look here http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32940 Exactly what I wrote just above. Look at the first post in the comment area. The Author declares that the commands don't work if you have the 1.9 patch installed. Sad face still works MFG EXPRESSION 11 100 Mouth open no MFG PHONEME 1 100
sunspotz Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 So Ashal will you incorporate 3P or more animations with the framework? I remember Arrok having 3P test animation, is that going to be incorporated?
NicoleDragoness Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 For facial expressions suggest you take a look here http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32940 Exactly what I wrote just above. Look at the first post in the comment area. The Author declares that the commands don't work if you have the 1.9 patch installed. Sad face still works MFG EXPRESSION 11 100 Mouth open no MFG PHONEME 1 100 TY. As I wrote, I never tried numbers above 9. Anyhow, the real needed into a sex mod could be mainly the mouth wide open and, pity, the "phoneme" command doesn't work at all with 1.9 patch. But, if I remember well, Ashtai, into his great mini-DLC "Dark Investigations", has an animation that forces the female Dragonborn to open wide her mouth. I think the entire animation sequnce (very well done!) was made by DarkAngel.
Trykz Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Abaout Facial Espressions: there are two console commands, one for espressions themselves and one for open mouth. They are, respectively: mfg espression X yyy (where X is the ID of the espression, number from 0 to 9 [maybe more, never tried], and yyy the value for the espression, like 050, 100, 200 and so on). the other one is: mfg phoneme X yyy (same as above). By my knowledge, the 1.9 patch has broken this commands and the related papyrus commands too. I don't hope about a fix by Beth for at least two reasons: 1. Beth has clearly declared that Skyrim is DEAD and no more addons or patches will be released. 2. Beth's guys are always only money interested. They NEVER care about "secondary" bugs or problems users could have, and this one, by their point of view, is not important due all their resources are focused on the release of a new game (probably Fallout 4). That's not exactly what they said. Your assertion concerning DLCs is correct, but they never said any such thing concerning patches/fixes. In fact, they very clearly noted that there would continue to be patches to clean up any remaining issues/bugs with the game. There has already been a lot of chatter on the official Beth forums about a fix for the phoneme issue being in the testing pipeline. Trykz
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