[WIP][Coming Soon] SexLab - Sex Animation Framework

[Ashal]

Just a quick update: I'm hoping to have everything finished tonight, then I want spend a couple days cleaning it up  and testing it as much as possible, so it will probably be released tuesday or wednesday.

[sammythesquirrel]

we have a tentative release date \^ o ^/ 

[Deathmaw]

Awesome waiting for this to start my new playthrough.

[MasterAaran]

Just a quick update: I'm hoping to have everything finished tonight, then I want spend a couple days cleaning it up  and testing it as much as possible, so it will probably be released tuesday or wednesday.

 

 

Awesome Ashal! Thanks for keeping us updated!

[Slammer64]

Fan-fucking-tastic Ashal, can't wait to get my hands on it and start modding for Skyrim. My installation only uses a few mods so I can dig right in.

[medic975]

Thanks for taking this on, Ashal. Hope someone takes on Cupid as well, although I'm quite Happen With SexAddict as a stand alone for the moment.

[aljustineg]

finally some threesome action all we need is some impregnate mods and some creatures sex mods then where ready to comepete with oblivion  nice work ashal   

[Niobia]

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

[Valgo]

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

 

"Oh, oh come inside me." I know what you mean.

It sounds absolutly stupid and even more stupid while Combat/Randomrape.^^

[bjornk]

You know, I've looked at almost all of the voice packages and voice replacers that have been posted in LL and there's actually just one voice that sounds somewhat compatible with the default female player voice (female_eventoned). If I'm not mistaken, that voice has been around since the first ML package with sound. I think it is still included in SexiS Data package (in folder vf01). That's the only voice I would use as an additional voice. It would be great if that voice could be expanded and could come as the default female voice with the SL framework.

[Guest Devianza]

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

 

Well if he's basing his work on Sexis, the clothing option should be there.  One of the things I really like about Sexis is that Cmod  made it so the player could set each clothing slot to their liking.  For example, if I want my character to keep on their boots, gloves, and helmet, not a problem.  And since so many UNP outfits use slot 49 for skirts, shorts, etc, it was nice he made it possible for one to leave 49 set to "wear".  One of my issues with SexoutNG is that it requires another mod to set the clothing options the way I like it.  I also like that Cmod made it possible to reset the amount of times the character has had sex, that would have come in handy had anyone made a "virgin mod" of some sort, like the unicorn one for Oblivion.  So hopefully Sexlab has those two features.

 

 

 

 

[Ashal]

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

 

For launch it will use seperate voice packs, I will look into adding vanilla voice grunts later.

 

You know, I've looked at almost all of the voice packages and voice replacers that have been posted in LL and there's actually just one voice that sounds somewhat compatible with the default female player voice (female_eventoned). If I'm not mistaken, that voice has been around since the first ML package with sound. I think it is still included in SexiS Data package (in folder vf01). That's the only voice I would use as an additional voice. It would be great if that voice could be expanded and could come as the default female voice with the SL framework.

 

SexiS's vf01 is the same voice files used as the default female voice in Lovers with PK, Sexout, and many others; it's voice files have been passed around for a long time. I'm using it here as well.

 

I also put together a male voice pack from various sound sources, since every sex mod seems to lack one. I find the fact that the male actor is always completely stone faced and dead eyed during animations off putting. It's a very quiet and understated male moaning as I know a lot of people find male moaning generally a huge turn off in porn, there will be an option to toggle it off if bugs you.

 

I also added lip sync animations for all the voice packs, so their should be much more life in the actors faces during.

 

 

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

 

Well if he's basing his work on Sexis, the clothing option should be there.  One of the things I really like about Sexis is that Cmod  made it so the player could set each clothing slot to their liking.  For example, if I want my character to keep on their boots, gloves, and helmet, not a problem.  And since so many UNP outfits use slot 49 for skirts, shorts, etc, it was nice he made it possible for one to leave 49 set to "wear".  One of my issues with SexoutNG is that it requires another mod to set the clothing options the way I like it.  I also like that Cmod made it possible to reset the amount of times the character has had sex, that would have come in handy had anyone made a "virgin mod" of some sort, like the unicorn one for Oblivion.  So hopefully Sexlab has those two features.

 

There is options to toggle on/off removal of each slot for male and female, and then again separate toggles for male and female stripping during animations marked as rape/aggressive.

 

I'm not aware of slot 49 being used for anything in particular  just that is one of the unnamed "extra" slots. There is a toggle for removing the extra slots, which are slots 40 and 44-60. At the moment though, if strip extras is on it will strip all of those extra slots. If there is need to distinguish between certain extra slots I can add it, but adding an option for 17 separate extra slots is a little on the ridiculous side in my opinion.

[Cyndi]

Might be nice to have 52 separate from the other "extra" slots.  Seems to be the most commonly used panty equip slot. 

[check]

Speaking of undressing slots. There is a mod thats pretty popular called "bandoliers" which add pouches and bags fpr extra carrying weight. See if you cant add those slots (as well as the one used in most Backpacks mods) for undressing as well if possible.

I dont know what slots they use, so its quite possible they are among the ones you mentioned already.

[Guest Devianza]

Might be nice to have 52 separate from the other "extra" slots.  Seems to be the most commonly used panty equip slot. 

 

Yeah, I believe 52 is also used by Dimon for his UNP skirts, and quite a few seem to have used his UNP skirts for their own clothing mods. 

 

As for slot 49, many of Osare's UNP clothing uses slot 49 for shorts, skirts, etc, and so on.

 

In short, I usually always set 49 and 52 to strip since I primarily only use Osare's clothing mods since he's one of the few on the Nexus right now making non lore clothing for the UNP bodytype.  While when it comes to collars, I'm not sure what slot they use, I know they don't use the same slot as necklaces but whatever slot it is I remain that set to wear.

 

 

 

 

 

[Pinute]

 

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

 

For launch it will use seperate voice packs, I will look into adding vanilla voice grunts later.

 

You know, I've looked at almost all of the voice packages and voice replacers that have been posted in LL and there's actually just one voice that sounds somewhat compatible with the default female player voice (female_eventoned). If I'm not mistaken, that voice has been around since the first ML package with sound. I think it is still included in SexiS Data package (in folder vf01). That's the only voice I would use as an additional voice. It would be great if that voice could be expanded and could come as the default female voice with the SL framework.

 

SexiS's vf01 is the same voice files used as the default female voice in Lovers with PK, Sexout, and many others; it's voice files have been passed around for a long time. I'm using it here as well.

 

I also put together a male voice pack from various sound sources, since every sex mod seems to lack one. I find the fact that the male actor is always completely stone faced and dead eyed during animations off putting. It's a very quiet and understated male moaning as I know a lot of people find male moaning generally a huge turn off in porn, there will be an option to toggle it off if bugs you.

 

I also added lip sync animations for all the voice packs, so their should be much more life in the actors faces during.

 

 

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

Options to keep clothes on/off for the player and another option for NPC would be great too.

 

Well if he's basing his work on Sexis, the clothing option should be there.  One of the things I really like about Sexis is that Cmod  made it so the player could set each clothing slot to their liking.  For example, if I want my character to keep on their boots, gloves, and helmet, not a problem.  And since so many UNP outfits use slot 49 for skirts, shorts, etc, it was nice he made it possible for one to leave 49 set to "wear".  One of my issues with SexoutNG is that it requires another mod to set the clothing options the way I like it.  I also like that Cmod made it possible to reset the amount of times the character has had sex, that would have come in handy had anyone made a "virgin mod" of some sort, like the unicorn one for Oblivion.  So hopefully Sexlab has those two features.

 

There is options to toggle on/off removal of each slot for male and female, and then again separate toggles for male and female stripping during animations marked as rape/aggressive.

 

I'm not aware of slot 49 being used for anything in particular  just that is one of the unnamed "extra" slots. There is a toggle for removing the extra slots, which are slots 40 and 44-60. At the moment though, if strip extras is on it will strip all of those extra slots. If there is need to distinguish between certain extra slots I can add it, but adding an option for 17 separate extra slots is a little on the ridiculous side in my opinion.

 

I'm pretty sure you're aware of this http://www.creationkit.com/Biped_Object , it lays out a 'standard' for those unamed body slots - and from what I've seen in nifscope it's using very similar naming for those slots. 

 

The mods that provide labia decorations are nearly all using slot 52.  At least a couple mods are also using 57 for navel rings. it seems a bit odd that someone would take them off for sex so it'd be nice to have those available for player settings. Also, zaz is using 45 as the collar slot, 48 and 51 for wrist and ankle cuffs (at least, the matched set uses those two slots) and 55 for gags.I think there's a slot or two more that he uses, those are just the ones that mattered when I was messing around learning nifscope. 

 

So, depending on just how someone is dressing having control over those higher slots could be pretty important for immersion, not to speak of allowing modders to control, via your api, whether or not their accessories get removed by the core.

 

 

[Ashal]

I'm pretty sure you're aware of this http://www.creationkit.com/Biped_Object , it lays out a 'standard' for those unamed body slots - and from what I've seen in nifscope it's using very similar naming for those slots.

 

 

I was not aware this list existed no, though I was hoping something like it existed I just never looked very deeply for it.

 

I'll make individual options for the ones that make sense to implement. I'll likely combine many of them though to save on space, like 58 & 59 into "Misc Arms," 49 & 52 into "Misc Pelvis"

[silverwyrm]

"Wedding Rings by Ezuka" http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/30093 allows the wedding rings to use a separate slot from the other rings.  The recommended version uses slot 55 (conflicting with gags apparently), but it also has options for slots 48 (wrist cuffs?), 58, and 60.

 

That seems like a more complicated one to handle, too.  Realistically, it would probably stay on with husband and wife, but come off the rest of the time.

 

I don't know how you'd want to handle that, but if you do find a way it would be nice.

[Ashal]

"Wedding Rings by Ezuka" http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/30093 allows the wedding rings to use a separate slot from the other rings.  The recommended version uses slot 55 (conflicting with gags apparently), but it also has options for slots 48 (wrist cuffs?), 58, and 60.

 

That seems like a more complicated one to handle, too.  Realistically, it would probably stay on with husband and wife, but come off the rest of the time.

 

I don't know how you'd want to handle that, but if you do find a way it would be nice.

It wouldn't be feasible to put in exceptions for specific mods, and the extra slot masks that are claimed for certain types aren't set in stone either, people can stray from them. The best I can do is mark the extra slots for their "intended" use and go from there.

[Dorikin]

Patiently waiting.....

The potential is through the roof with this framework  .

[Guest Devianza]

So is the release date still Tuesday or Wednesday?

And I wonder what the first addon will be?  Sounds like Working Girl but I really hope someone does an add on like defeated, one that like defeated always has the npc in the dominant role.  And I wonder how this will impact the beast animation project.  The last I heard, the guys working on that project were working with Cmod but its been awhile since I've checked that thread.




 

[Ashal]

So is the release date still Tuesday or Wednesday?

Looking a little unlikely, wednesday at the absolute earliest though. Friday at the latest.

 

I ended up spending a bunch of time I was supposed to spend finalizing everything redoing the voice system instead.

[Pinute]

 

"Wedding Rings by Ezuka" http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/30093 allows the wedding rings to use a separate slot from the other rings.  The recommended version uses slot 55 (conflicting with gags apparently), but it also has options for slots 48 (wrist cuffs?), 58, and 60.

 

That seems like a more complicated one to handle, too.  Realistically, it would probably stay on with husband and wife, but come off the rest of the time.

 

I don't know how you'd want to handle that, but if you do find a way it would be nice.

It wouldn't be feasible to put in exceptions for specific mods, and the extra slot masks that are claimed for certain types aren't set in stone either, people can stray from them. The best I can do is mark the extra slots for their "intended" use and go from there.

It might be better to not make the final decision for the modders or users about what should be or shouldn't be unequipped. I understand that you want to get something out the door for alpha testing, but I'd suggest leaving space in the api for allowing modders to have control of each slot individually. You don't remove the exact same clothing for every sex situation.

 

While the default may be to strip most everything a rape mod, for example, could provide an MCM panel that a user could say 'rip off the curiass and helmet' or 'only take off only the panties' if they've zapped all the panties from the remodeled MAK and are using an osare replacement. Lover's Comfort, on the other hand, might want to remove everything but the wedding ring mentioned above.

 

A simple flag in the main call could deal with this: true, use the default as set by SexLab. False, strip nothing and leave the stripping to the calling mod. Or, you could go full bore and have an array passed.

[zax]

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

What about replacing all vanilla grunts and moans with porn star voices, so it fits properly?

[bjornk]

 

 

If possible, I hope there's an option for vanilla voices (like grunts and moans and yells from fighting). It gets pretty silly when you heard the voice of characters only to have their voice sound like a porn stars which never matches the character or the game.

 

What about replacing all vanilla grunts and moans with porn star voices, so it fits properly?

 

 

I ewwww the idea.