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Baltasarr80

Baltasarr80

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10 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Interesting, thanks for sharing that.  It looks ambitious.  At some point I might try it out.  However, I'm not actually that interested in adding vampire content, I'm really just supporting having vampire owners and trying to smooth over any major problems with that kind of play.

 Oh i would second that in a minutes notice :) Im liking it very much

Guest

Guest

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11 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Would you trust Lola to build a house without including all sorts of hidey holes for things she's not supposed to have?

Well, she could be under strict supervision. It's not like prisoners haven't built their own prisons in history.

Herowynne

Herowynne

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@HexBolt8 My owner very frequently checks to see if I have any keys. I have some questions about that key-checking feature:

 

Most of the time, but not always, Lola does an out-of-breath animation in response to the key checking. Is that expected? What emotion is the out-of-breath animation intended to convey?

 

Just for testing, I added some keys to my inventory to see what would happen on the next key check. My mistress took the keys but there did not appear to be any consequences. Was that intended?

 

Is the key-checking supposed to influence the Submission score positively or negatively? My intuitive expectation is that Submission score should increase after a key check that shows Lola obediently had no keys, but Submission score should decrease if Lola had keys, and perhaps Lola should be punished.

 

How often should that key checking occur? (I don't see an option for this in the MCM Cooldown page.)

 

How does the key checking relate to the MCM checkbox "Owner takes your keys" ? (Or maybe they are unrelated?)

 

Thanks!

Hex Bolt

Hex Bolt

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1 minute ago, Herowynne said:

My owner very frequently checks to see if I have any keys.

Not from this mod.  DFC perhaps?

 

2 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

How does the key checking relate to the MCM checkbox "Owner takes your keys" ?

"Owner takes your keys" moves them to your owner the instant that you acquire them.

donttouchmethere

donttouchmethere

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1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Not from this mod.  DFC perhaps?

Yes it's from DFC!

 

I just added newest DFC to my game and get the "checks for keys" dialogue too if sLola Mistress starts a forcegreet or if player ask "can I be of service".

My guess is it's the same issue as this one (workaround by Herowynne):

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for DFC search the line in Dialogue Topic:

_DFlowForcedStartStage20DiaTopic

 

right click on the following entries and choose "Edit":

Subtype:                        Forcegreet  =edit to>  Custom

SNAM -Subtype Name:  PFGT          =edit to>  CUST

 

Maybe a similar solution works for the new conflicting DFC dialogue?

 

Also:

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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.NTP9G3OcguYRIMjimYrSCAHaEo%26pid%3DApi&f=1

 

sLola is in my LO for 650+ hours. Multiple updates and still works.

I went thru most vanilla quests as Lola and it never really stopped me dead in my tracks.

Also the device flexibility helps a lot with compatibility with other mods or just for the looks (different devices).

sLola blends into my game perfectly:

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I wish SD+ could learn a bit from sLola ^^

sLola sets high standards for other mods of this kind ?

 

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donttouchmethere

donttouchmethere

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14 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

F5 Trashed Patch.esp

F6 Crashed Patched.RIP

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So true for a long time. ?

Just started to combine them to see how that goes. Maybe I can even merge mods into the bashed patch again.

Smashed patch needs to be checked with Tes5edit, because it makes some ugly errors (in my case invisible armors caused missing chests on NPC)

Actually a Tes5edit patch would be better, but I'm too lazy (and clueless) to get it right, so Smash patch has to do the most work and I just modify it after that with Tes5edit.

Bashed patch is mostly only tweaks now (bounty amount tweaks for example)

DayTri

DayTri

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On 2/10/2021 at 3:02 PM, NicoleDragoness said:

I have the event set this way but I can assure that vibrations last for at least a couple of real time minutes.

It could be because I have the timescale game set to 10?

 

 

The next time you play w/ a vibrate event, check the faction rank of your player in this faction: "xx029568" where xx is the load order for Devious Devices. The faction rank is the time remaining on your vibrate event, + overhead for your CPU. Each cycle the mod does its thing, decreases the faction rank by 1, and waits 1 real world second before looping again.

 

So if you see this value is something like 120, then some mod has set you to vibrate for 2 minutes. If it's 5 or something, then it's because your computer is taking too long to execute the papyrus in the zadLibs loop.

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Herowynne

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1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

Yes it's from DFC! I just added newest DFC to my game and get the "checks for keys" dialogue too if sLola Mistress starts a forcegreet or if player ask "can I be of service".

My guess is it's the same issue as this one (workaround by Herowynne)

 

LOL sorry @HexBolt8 and thanks for the tip @donttouchmethere.

 

This is ironic, since @Lupine00 added my earlier DFC/SubLola compatibility workaround to the recent DFC 2.13.1, but now I need to investigate whether a new workaround is needed.

 

The weird thing is that I have tried Devious Follower in NFF slot 1 and SubLola mistress in NFF slot 2, and also tried it the other way around, and in both cases, my SubLola mistress said the key-checking lines, so I was certain that was a new SubLola feature.

 

I should have searched for the string through the mods. Sorry again!

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Hex Bolt

Hex Bolt

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1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

I just added newest DFC to my game and get the "checks for keys" dialogue too if sLola Mistress starts a forcegreet or if player ask "can I be of service".

My guess is it's the same issue as this one (workaround by Herowynne):

You could do that, but in this case that's using a big hammer to solve the problem.  It should work, but you'll never get the other mod's key checks, assuming that you want them.  Of course if you're using this mod's "Owner takes your keys" option, then key checks are pointless.  You might mention the problem to Lupine.  He might only have to add or fine-tune the conditions on the key check so that it only happens when intended.  Or, a toggle for that dialog would sidestep the issue.  I've been busy with this mod and real-life stuff, so I haven't looked at DFC internals a long time.

 

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

sLola sets high standards for other mods of this kind

Thank you!

 

36 minutes ago, DayTri said:

If it's 5 or something, then it's because your computer is taking too long to execute the papyrus in the zadLibs loop.

I forgot to offer a reminder that this mod's MCM has a Stop Vibrations button on the System page.  It's not convenient, but if something is running too long, regardless of which mod started it, that's available.  (It works by setting the player's vibration faction to 0 and removing the player from that faction which, as DayTri noted, is how DD sets the time for those events, instead of counting seconds.)

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Hex Bolt

Hex Bolt

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1 minute ago, Herowynne said:

Any idea about whether the collar check is from SubLola or DFC ?

Collar check is from SLTR, added a few release back:  "Owner will sometimes inspect your collar for tampering.  Until the mod moves to DD5, it will always pass."

 

13 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

I should have searched for the string through the mods. Sorry again!

No problem at all.  It was a natural assumption.  That key check conflict can probably be handled just by checking that it's the devious follower speaking (not any follower).  Again, I haven't poked around in how it works, so that's just guessing.

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donttouchmethere

donttouchmethere

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18 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

Any idea about whether the collar check is from SubLola or DFC ?

I thought it's from SLTR but it always succeeds, even if I rarely wear the real SLTR collar.

Luckily HexBolt8 saves me the guesswork ?:

13 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Collar check is from SLTR, added a few release back:  "Owner will sometimes inspect your collar for tampering.  Until the mod moves to DD5, it will always pass."

 

13 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

That key check conflict can probably be handled just by checking that it's the devious follower speaking (not any follower). 

My SLTR mistress became "accidentally" also a devious follower xD

So I need to test what happens if I grab another follower and transfer the DFC behavior to that added follower.

Hopefully that's the solution already?

 

If not I would try a Herowynne style workaround and also deactivate the "key deal" option in DFC.

Hex Bolt

Hex Bolt

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27 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

@Lupine00 added my earlier DFC/SubLola compatibility workaround to the recent DFC 2.13.1, but now I need to investigate whether a new workaround is needed.

Can I remove the note on the mod page for Compatibility, in regard to DFC?

Hex Bolt

Hex Bolt

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2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I rarely wear the real SLTR collar.

Neither do I.  I'm a BYOC kind of player.  But the collar check works for any DD or Zaz collar (Zaz collar will always pass inspection, even after the DD5 checking is added).  

 

The collar check provides a bit of variety, an alternative to the zaps, just an "I'm watching you, slave" moment.

 

5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

My SLTR mistress became "accidentally" also a devious follower

If your owner is also your devious follower, then the DFC key check would be entirely correct.  You probably know that; I'm just being clear.

donttouchmethere

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5 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

If your owner is also your devious follower, then the DFC key check would be entirely correct.  You probably know that; I'm just being clear.

Yes, that would be correct, if any deals would be running.

But the check happens even if the DFC follower is just a gold drain without any active deals.

Also the key check only happens if something gets triggered by SLTR (still without any running DFC deals).

That's why I concluded that it's another conflict like the ones with SLS and DFC we know already about.

donttouchmethere

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58 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

This is ironic, since @Lupine00 added my earlier DFC/SubLola compatibility workaround to the recent DFC 2.13.1, but now I need to investigate whether a new workaround is needed.

Are you sure? I just had to TES5edit the DFC esp from the newest version (LE).

Newest SLS version has your workaround included now. I was surprised that I had to change nothing anymore.

(or was it the other way around? now I'm confused ?)

Hex Bolt

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The 100 Score event is progressing.  The early prototyping looked good.  Then I ran face first into a wall of implementation problems.  I could have made it work like that, but it didn't look nice.  I'm on iteration 3 now, and I'm pleased with the result.  The event also suffered from feature creep.  Players will be able to customize the text.  I think you guys will want that.  I know I do.

 

It's a small event, but I want to get it right.  I'm actually taking a day off from modding today.  The dialog text is all written, but I have a fair amount of tedious steps to do to finish things off.  My own character is just short of 99, so I'm hoping to see the event in my own game soon.

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Hex Bolt

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15 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

But the check happens even if the DFC follower is just a gold drain without any active deals.

Definitely report that, then.  Lupine will want to know. Unless it's supposed to occur all the time.  I can't say.

Herowynne

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35 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Can I remove the note on the mod page for Compatibility, in regard to DFC?

 

Ultimately that is up to you; however, a couple of things to consider:

@Lupine00 made the change for the most recent DFC 2.13.1 and many folks may still be using older versions of DFC.

I updated my post to say that the patch is only needed for older versions of DFC prior to 2.13.1.

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