Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[adle]

hmm i doesnt like the idea of a twin sister that much. 

what i like is that father concentrate on PC and you are the only little slut for him.

with all the house servants you can enslave, PC would just be one of a harem, which breaks my immersion. 

I like it more that the PC is the only one that have to do anything for her father. 

maybe it could be a younger sister which you have to protect from father

 

but thats only my opinion.

Edited May 3, 2022 by adle

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, adle said:

what i like is that father concentrate on PC and you are the only little slut for him.

 

19 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Maybe the PC gets a little jealous her sister is now his focus and getting all of fathers "attention"

It's already begun. 

 

In any case. It is likely to be optional. Just like PAH home slaves...

 

1 hour ago, adle said:

maybe it could be a younger sister which you have to protect from father

Ah I dunno about going down that road. Far too many problems IMO. 

I think she'll be your older sister to avoid all of that shit. She might also, once she's been corrupted enough by father, use it as a stick against you:

"I'm your big sister so I should be the one to xxxxx (whatever)". Moving to be the... 'dominant sister'. 

[Monoman1]

16 hours ago, kinkeag said:

This all sounds fantastic, can't wait, however, I know absolutely nothing about making mods but this does seem like another massive undertaking, would hate for you to get burned out with like, feature creep.

 ¯\_(" 3)_/¯

Yes. The burnout risk is real...

[Koozie]

Idea for sister content:

 

There can be some competition content with sister when winning can lead to some reward and losing it can lead to some favour lose or maybe revoking some persmission or forcing doing some tasks. 

[kapibar]

24 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes. The burnout risk is real...

Oh no no no! Don't even think like that. There's no burnout, you're a fucking legend and you'll do it.

[Desvati]

22 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Well the general idea is that she was given up at birth. Probably giving a hand around honorhall now that she's grown up. Once the PC has been broken in sufficiently, father reveals to the PC that she has a twin/sister and sends her to retrieve her either via deception or force (abduct)

 

abduct plot - incapacitate while vulnerable. Restraints + hood. return to honorhall posing as her "im leaving and going to hammerfell", so nobody comes looking for her. This doesn't work for non twin though. 

Deceit - mothers sick, need help etc. Could play along until she walks in on you fucking father in his room late at night. After which would ofc be hard training, which might be your job partly at least. 

 

Sister may plead for release but the PC is too broken/smitten to have a sister to give in to her - "you belong here with me. And father"

 

Submissive twin sluts is surely an exotic commodity many would pay well for and would obviously be much more valuable to father than just one. 

 

Father might expect the two of you to dress identically. Would be nice to include makeup/stocking in that but don't think yps does npcs so it'd have to be faked. 

Maybe the PC gets a little jealous her sister is now his focus and getting all of fathers "attention"

You might have to do everything together - bathe/sleep etc. 

Someone wanted an option to bathe others for BiS tweak. This might be a good time to try to do that. Would badly need an animation though. No bathing except at home. And you're not allowed to bath yourself. Your sister must bath you. And vice versa. 

 

Maybe there's a semi happy ending where you escape with her and she ends up being you're follower/lover

 

Just spitballing here. 

 

Very interesting idea, especially with the differing angles for the PC.

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

It's already begun. 

 

In any case. It is likely to be optional. Just like PAH home slaves...

 

Ah I dunno about going down that road. Far too many problems IMO. 

I think she'll be your older sister to avoid all of that shit. She might also, once she's been corrupted enough by father, use it as a stick against you:

"I'm your big sister so I should be the one to xxxxx (whatever)". Moving to be the... 'dominant sister'. 

I was going to say things could stretch people's suspension of disbelief to incredulity with a twin, but an older sister? Oooooh boy!

Especially if you keep the initial angle, maybe she moved out, became estranged from Father and Mother, and after a point Father has you track her down and bring her into the fold. With enough immersion into her training, she starts to be used to further control the PC, as the dominant sister.

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes. The burnout risk is real...

And, of course, be careful out there! Take breaks as you need to my dude!

[Monoman1]

41 minutes ago, Desvati said:

was going to say things could stretch people's suspension of disbelief to incredulity with a twin, but an older sister? Oooooh boy!

Well when I said older I meant on the order of minutes...

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Desvati said:

Father has you track her down and bring her into the fold. With enough immersion into her training, she starts to be used to further control the PC, as the dominant sister.

A nice and pretty fucked up thing would be if father decides to actually marry the sister and she becomes PC's new mother.

Edited May 3, 2022 by kapibar

[Desvati]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Well when I said older I meant on the order of minutes...

Minutes, seconds, a timescale or two, its all relative, but the dynamic of her being "older than you" is gold ?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

A nice and pretty fucked up thing would be if father decides to actually marry the sister and she becomes PC's new mother.

Yes. And later when you escape Father with your sister/mother you could marry her and make her your wife/sister/mother... ?

[AlphaAndOmega]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes. And later when you escape Father with your sister/mother you could marry her and make her your wife/sister/mother... ?

Crusader Kings be like.

Great idea overall, make sure you actually enjoy the process and don't burn out.

[kapibar]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes. And later when you escape Father with your sister/mother you could marry her and make her your wife/sister/mother... ?

Wouldn't that be nice...? Too nice in fact. It's like the least shitty outcome of WT.

 

Maybe - since we're throwing suggestions - I'll drop mine. PC brings her sister to father and is ordered to train her. At some point the sister stands up for herself and here two obvious storylines can develop (in the spirit of WT labirynth of choices):

 

1) The player effectively extinguishes the outburst - this leads to sister becoming a sub and both her and PC are father's whores; the sister can be potential follower. It leads to both the player and the sister escaping (the best scenario).

 

2) The player character succumbs to her submissive nature honed by her father and instead of taking control over her sister, she tries to apologize. She is then beaten to shit by her sister who establishes dominance. To father's liking. Now she is privileged and PC is the whore. From this moment the OLDER sister becomes your handler - she does the inspections and punishes you, you also have to bring her (by forging or stealing) expensive jewelry of her liking (gold!). Father handles the "business" side - gives you tasks, schedules dinnertime and holds PC accountable for her tasks (cumtainer and milk). Of course now you're cooking for two. Since the sister is PC's twin, when PC is pregnant, she's calling it her pregnancy and her baby. When the baby is born and mother gets put in the ground, the PC becomes useless (since father already has a proper wife). Obviously, before that happens father and sister inform the PC how things have changed and that she has to call sister "mother". PC gets poisoned and thrown out. From now on every two weeks PC has to bring father an *amount of money* to earn the antidote. But with every dose of antidote, you also get another dose of poison, forcing you to become father's and new mother's slave adventurer (the PC can return to live with them after her first payment).

 

The second scenario also has an added benefit - the PC would have to get freedom license in order to buy/sell anything (if not, father will be the only merchant available, at least without bribery), which could be acquired only through being your parent's good pet.

 

If this scenario picks your interest you'll probably polish out some of the mechanics. But this pretty much sums up what I have in mind.

Edited May 4, 2022 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

9 hours ago, kapibar said:

Maybe - since we're throwing suggestions

They're interesting ideas. I don't know if I'll do them. It's too far off to say anything for certain really. More ideas the better though. Helps the creative process along. 

 

I've had more brain farts in the meantime. 

1. Sister might have certain, random, hidden barriers you'd have to break down (maybe in a certain order) to get her to submit. Barriers might be... getting fucked by you, getting fucked in the ass by father, by the dog/horse, getting whipped/beaten, tied up, fucked in public, walked through town naked, locked in zaz furniture etc etc. 

2. Father might eventually turn your dominant sister into a futa to better put you in your place. Get pregnant by your futa sister? Wouldn't work very well with the 'father marrying sister' scenario though. 

 

 

Better pic. 

Mmm. Warpaint is copied too. Doesn't bother me that much personally. I don't use warpaint...

Edited May 4, 2022 by Monoman1
Better pic.

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

2. Father might eventually turn your dominant sister into a futa to better put you in your place. Get pregnant by your futa sister? Wouldn't work very well with the 'father marrying sister' scenario though.

Could be a feature for submissive sister ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

 

But this idea has one significant flaw - FUTA itself. Tried to set it right and ended up with a gap between the schlong and the pubic thigh. Few hours later decided that it's more of a hassle than I need in my life and dropped it.

Edited May 4, 2022 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

17 minutes ago, kapibar said:

But this idea has one significant flaw - FUTA itself

True enough. It's a shame there isn't an almighty All-In-One futa mod at this stage...

[kapibar]

37 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

True enough. It's a shame there isn't an almighty All-In-One futa mod at this stage...

Maybe it's just an illusion, but it sounds like you have your eye on a new venture ?.

[Balgin]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

2. Father might eventually turn your dominant sister into a futa to better put you in your place. Get pregnant by your futa sister? Wouldn't work very well with the 'father marrying sister' scenario though. 

Just remember to turn on female to female cum in the Sexlab MCM for Beeing Female to let a woman get you pregnant.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Maybe it's just an illusion, but it sounds like you have your eye on a new venture ?.

I think you're delirious. 

Meshes & textures? Me? Nope!

23 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Just remember to turn on female to female cum in the Sexlab MCM for Beeing Female to let a woman get you pregnant.

Without an easyish futa mod to install it seems unlikely unfortunately. 

 

 

I think your bedroom will change over time. Vanilla bedroom -> exposed bedroom -> jail bedroom. 

But at what points in the story would make good spots to transition...?

 

And lets not forget the exposed bathroom too...

 

Vanilla:

Spoiler

 

Exposed:

Spoiler

 

Jail:

Spoiler

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

11 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think you're delirious. 

Meshes & textures? Me? Nope!

It's never too late to learn.

 

12 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think your bedroom will change over time. Vanilla bedroom -> exposed bedroom -> jail bedroom. 

But at what points in the story would make good spots to transition...?

That really is a good question. For jail - the obvious choice would be when PC becomes pregnant, but this can happen fairly quickly. Honestly, the story in WT is so limited it wouldn't make much sense to pinpoint the exact constant point. Instead linking it to submission/depravity seems like a more logical solution. Except both of those parameters skyrocket when devices are introduced. Twice a day both receive substantial boost, not to mention furniture and parties.

 

So maybe you should consider using the game time passed as a threshold (exposed -> 10/15 days, jail -> 25+) with a random chance for the event to occur.

[beerman778]

19 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think your bedroom will change over time. Vanilla bedroom -> exposed bedroom -> jail bedroom. 

But at what points in the story would make good spots to transition...?

Depends, when you already planned something along the lines of not being allowed to leave the house at certain points/times. Then maybe violating that rule "progresses" the room.

 

Could also bind it to the submission score.

[beerman778]

4 minutes ago, kapibar said:

So maybe you should consider using the game time passed as a threshold (exposed -> 10/15 days, jail -> 25+) with a random chance for the event to occur.

Not a fan of binding this to time. I guess everyone progress at a different pace. So some internal score like submission probably makes more sense.

[kapibar]

Just now, beerman778 said:

Not a fan of binding this to time. I guess everyone progress at a different pace. So some internal score like submission probably makes more sense.

It would if it didn't get as much boost with no involvement from the player. After all the devices become requirement, you'll be @ 100 sub/dep in no time.

[beerman778]

7 minutes ago, kapibar said:

It would if it didn't get as much boost with no involvement from the player. After all the devices become requirement, you'll be @ 100 sub/dep in no time.

I mean, there is no reason to cap sub @ 100 in the first place

[kapibar]

21 minutes ago, beerman778 said:

I mean, there is no reason to cap sub @ 100 in the first place

If there's no cap, the parameter itself becomes kinda pointless from roleplaying standpoint. How should the player know which choices are in line with daughter's character if there's no benchmark? Then there's also no benefit in telling the player what the current level of the stat is. It could be just mod's internal parameter.

Edited May 4, 2022 by kapibar

[beerman778]

29 minutes ago, kapibar said:

If there's no cap, the parameter itself becomes kinda pointless from roleplaying standpoint. How should the player know which choices are in line with daughter's character if there's no benchmark? Then there's also no benefit in telling the player what the current level of the stat is. It could be just mod's internal parameter.

Right, but the cap doesn't have to be 100 for the sake of creating a longer lasting score for the room progress.