Sexlab Survival

[Corsayr]

On 7/25/2020 at 8:48 PM, Monoman1 said:

SLS_Mcm.pex 342.59 kB · 8 downloads

 

You'll have to change the esp names in BikiniArmor.json too. Can do that easily with a find & replace. 

Such as?

here it is!

 

Think it will still work?

 

So I don't need that anymore

[kcer06]

3 hours ago, Corsayr said:

here it is!

 

Think it will still work?

 

So I don't need that anymore

where is the bikiniarmor.json file?? i got sun's Bikini Armor remastered also, but I cant find it...

[donttouchmethere]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Thoughts?

How about another famous MM1 tweak for Apropos2?

On the other hand SLS could modify it directly if it connects to Apropos2 already... does it connect already?

I lost overview to what SLS connects already ?

 

Then again I regularly use consumables to completely heal W&T, which in turn would theoretically shift organs back in place (I read that somewhere ?) and would also reset all wear and tear experiences and training ?

 

Maybe combine it with that SLS affliction feature? Like the one that is included already => have horse sex and get an affliction to related DDs => if in Pony DDs get less W&T damage from horse sex.

Did I just found a way to make things overly complicated? ?

[Fulanoo]

Quick question, in order to get cat calling do I need to edit my armor through TES5Edit to add the bikinikeyword? Or can I just set it as a bikini using Sexlab Aroused Extended?
Also, don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but the guard barracks in whiterun is considered as not being a part of whiterun, so going there is considered as leaving whiterun (found out after waiting there for a few hours).

[Corsayr]

1 hour ago, kcer06 said:

where is the bikiniarmor.json file?? i got sun's Bikini Armor remastered also, but I cant find it...

 

Sexlab Survival SE\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData\SL Survival\BikiniArmors.JSON

 

 

[4nk8r]

I never cared for the narrative features provided by Apropos, so I have been avoiding using it.  However, I like the idea of experience and body type having an effect on tolerance to abuse.  Vampires/werewolves and similar being even more tolerant to damage, maybe making them more susceptible to masochism due to being able to tolerate more abuse.

 

A feature request related to the license system.  Make the whole system ala carte, allowing each license type to be active or inactive independent of the others.  On some playthrus I'd like to only have the magic license part be enabled without armor and weapons being part of it.  Going for that whole Nord mystical paranoia without being draconian on taking away "honest" means of protecting/defending yourself, even teh wamens.

 

While I'm asking for shit, I think females should have an option for a mana boost vs penalty and have that whole "witch" persecution vibe added instead.  Add a Vigilant oppression subplot?  Punish those dirty slut witches, etc.  Necromancing fornicators, daedra summoning whores, etc.  Maybe a way to add cum inflation as a secondary source of mana storage not effected by the mana draining effects of the collar...kind of a succubus lite feature that allows a degrading but non-cheat way to bypass the mana drain collar and further push the cum addict narrative.  Cum witches.  Sloshing around a dungeon near you.  Cumpires.

 

 

[MUSHRO0M]

Suggestion:

All of the cum features are great, but what if you had them all again but for..."vaginal fluids" (I will leave naming things to you.) Or at least just the needs function.

I know nothing about modding, so I apologize if this is wrong, but wouldn't it just be the same code but with some keywords changed?

The difference would be that it is triggered with a female partner instead of male, and for the needs, the "salty cum" feature would decrease food instead of water, and the daydreaming would do the undress thing but with females (still with the moaning).

Other then the flame atronach, creatures and constructs may not have too much functionality with these features.

I love playing with this mod but after swallowing, my character needs to drink (obviously) but there is a perfectly good female npc standing there doing nothing which I could use instead. Then with the "decrease food" thing and salty cum you would need to juggle between who your character has sex with.

 

Please consider atleast the needs part, so that you can "drink" with a famale npc just as you can "eat" with a male npc, but seeing other functions like addiction would be amazing.

[Lupine00]

17 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I've been thinking lately of adding a wear & tear system (yet another one). I know it's been suggested before and I've said no. I've stood by Apropos2 & Apropos1 for ages. And IMO it's almost perfect. 

Please don't bind this into SLS directly unless it's completely soft-dependable.

 

If it requires a hard-dependency for another mod to consume it, it would basically be a DCL-style walled-garden feature.

As you note, SLS has a large number of soft-dependencies of its own, as well as several hard-dependencies.

A hard dependency on SLS brings all that baggage to any consumer mod.

 

 

That said, a design that exposes the SLS W&T entirely through mod-events and StorageUtil should be easy to come up with.

[Monoman1]

10 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

How about another famous MM1 tweak for Apropos2?

I think Gooser is still fairly active though. It's not as if apropos is abandoned or anything. 

10 hours ago, Fulanoo said:

Quick question, in order to get cat calling do I need to edit my armor through TES5Edit to add the bikinikeyword? Or can I just set it as a bikini using Sexlab Aroused Extended?
Also, don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but the guard barracks in whiterun is considered as not being a part of whiterun, so going there is considered as leaving whiterun (found out after waiting there for a few hours).

Ah either will work IIRC. But you need to consider the method. Opening the SLAX Mcm and setting the keyword is convenient but doing it for a lot of armors isn't very efficient. Also I don't think SLAX remembers your choice yet so on a new game you'd have to do it all again. Whereas adding a keyword is more permanent but requires adding a master to your armor mod. 

 

You can also use the slooty keyword I think if that's more appropriate. 

8 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Make the whole system ala carte, allowing each license type to be active or inactive independent of the others. 

Would like to have it but don't know how messy it would be. 

8 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

While I'm asking for shit, I think females should have an option for a mana boost vs penalty and have that whole "witch" persecution vibe added instead. 

I've alway thought that giving women a mana boost is essentially telling the player they should be a mage class which I don't like. 

8 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Maybe a way to add cum inflation as a secondary source of mana storage not effected by the mana draining effects of the collar..

Hmm yea. I have been meaning to add some humiliating way to get around the magic curse. Perhaps that's the answer. 

People would need FHU though. Also might need regular updates as I'm not sure FHU has a deflate event it sends out so that SLS could adjust accordingly. :S

 

Or I guess I could check for the deflate meshes being equipped. Don't know how reliable that'd be though. 

8 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Cumpires.

Lol.

3 hours ago, MUSHRO0M said:

All of the cum features are great, but what if you had them all again but for..."vaginal fluids"

I'd kind of agree. Maybe someday. We'll see. 

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

lease don't bind this into SLS directly unless it's completely soft-dependable.

I was thinking of just sticking it into SLS directly. 

 

If I was to make it a separate mod I definitely would try to do it without hard deps as I know people hate them. 

[Lupine00]

40 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If I was to make it a separate mod I definitely would try to do it without hard deps as I know people hate them. 

I kept thinking about making a W&T mod that took sex duration into account.

Haven't done it, because of a tragic dopamine deficiency.

 

Sure, creature size matters, but also duration.

 

Also, a "stretch" measure, that means you take less damage, but get and give less enjoyment.

Too many horses up there, and humans aren't going to do damage, or anything much else.

 

I'd also like the ability to adjust the consequences for humans, humanoids and creatures of difference size class independently.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Sure, creature size matters, but also duration.

Yes. Duration should definitely count. 

Might encourage you to participate in your own rape (provide enjoyment) to 'get it over with'. 

 

But I've thought before that rape should have 3 kind of.... states. 

1. Resist.

2. Capitulate.

3. Participate. 

 

But I don't know what relevance these states could have. Perhaps a popup box on rape begin. "Do you: Resist, Capitulate or Participate". 

Perhaps Capitulate -> participate is simply triggered by providing enjoyment. 

 

Resist = High W&T

Capitulate = less W&T

Participate = much less W&T

 

But then what advantage does resisting provide....? Perhaps a chance per animation stage to terminate the current scene while resisting.... But that would be fairly... conflicty. 

[Monoman1]

Another thing I've been thinking about/working on is toll/rape drugs. 

 

I've now added, cum bottles, Fertility Mode fertility potions, SLEN aphrodisiacs and an 'inflate' potion to the things you can be drugged with for tolls/rape. Inflate potion will seemingly have no immediate effect but some hours later will start to explosively inflate your character's breasts, ass & belly. Effect lasts for a day or two and then you're returned to normal. Might add a 'waddling' effect to it - decrease speed, increase buy/sell prices. Which in turn makes me want to add bonus enjoyment for men/women fucking a curvy bombshell player character with or without your input (without you directly providing enjoyment yourself). 

 

Now the thing I've been thinking about that's probably going to be fairly divisive..... A futa curse...

Would be disableable obviously but:

 

Must drink 3/4? 'suspicious potions' before effect begins. Go to sleep, wake up with a: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/9859-sos-addon-horse-penis-redux-le/

 

To dispel the curse you need to fuck and cum inside 10? different women. Finding cooperative women to help you would probably be difficult. So I'd have to rely on mods like defeat and PAH to allow you to cure yourself with hapless victims. 

Masturbation shouldn't allow you to orgasm. Or shouldn't count at least. 

 

That schlong mod only does UNP though unfortunately. CBBE = seam town + texture mismatch. It's pretty funny with floppy SOS. 

First time I used that mod I, as you do, increased the size to max because that's what you do. Along comes a HDT glitch and my girl starts 'helicoptering' infinitely like a boss while standing still. Cue uncontrollable laughter. 

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

But then what advantage does resisting provide....?

You could have two general classes of W&T debuffs, one for orifices and one for body.  If you resist, you get punched, kneed, and twisted, but the sex part is awkward if you don't hold still so the attacker gets his orgasm as quickly as he can.  Maximum body damage, minimum orifice wear.  Conversely, if you participate you're making it enjoyable for the rapist.  Minimal battering, but he takes his sweet time so you have a lot of orifice wear.  If you've recently had a lot of consensual sex, participating in your own rape would be the worst thing you could do. 

 

Resisting would also let you hold on to more of your pride.  Unfortunately there aren't many Skyrim attributes that could tie into other than Speechcraft.  If you participate, your self-worth is in the toilet for a while and so is your persuasiveness.   Frequent use of the participate option also might eventually lock you out of resisting, at least for a while, or push you down some kind of "corruption" path.  Overuse of participating could mess you up.

 

 

It's your design and you know SL Survival best, but IF you could implement wear & tear as a separate mod using soft dependencies to get at what you need from SL Survival, it could reach more players.  There are a few things in DCL I'd like in my game, but it's just too large to justify installing and turning off most of it.  I was just hoping to avoid a similar thing.  Regarding Apropos 2, the author is around but hasn't updated the mod since Dec. 2018.  It's not getting fixes or new features.  A MM1 Tweaks add-on could help there if you'd rather take that path.

[4nk8r]

Forced oral with a vampire should be hazardous to the raper.  The player should get an option to try and feed or even kill the genital owner.  Should apply both male/female, since mouth and teeth are in play.  Ring gag and similar being the only mitigation/protection.  Maybe even shout off the raper at that point.  Fus Ro Gag reflex.

[Fulanoo]

14 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Ah either will work IIRC. But you need to consider the method. Opening the SLAX Mcm and setting the keyword is convenient but doing it for a lot of armors isn't very efficient. Also I don't think SLAX remembers your choice yet so on a new game you'd have to do it all again. Whereas adding a keyword is more permanent but requires adding a master to your armor mod.

I can't get the cat calling to work at all, maybe there's some other mod conflicting with it here, gonna try to find out some other time.

I prefer to use SLAX method cause it's easier (I do it to the armor I want as soon as I get it), but I just noticed here that the bikini experience is treating the armors that I flagged as bikini through SLAX as full armors and not as bikini armors. Is this how it's supposed to be? In other words, the higher my bikini experience level, the weakest my bikini armors are.
I still haven't tested if adding the keyword through TES5Edit works here, gonna test it tomorrow probably.

[Darkwing241]

8 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Resisting would also let you hold on to more of your pride.  Unfortunately there aren't many Skyrim attributes that could tie into other than Speechcraft.

I made a post about this in YPS immersive fashion.  In that post the idea was that increasing levels/types of beauty would grant different bonuses.  Some passive bonuses to skills ect. are obvious but granting active abilities similar to shouts, or granting the abilility to stun with your beauty or transfix someone with your channeled gaze.

 

That was the idea for fashion at least, but I see no reason why you couldn't have it work here.

 

Maybe certain mental states, and certain states of body-modification grant certain powers?

 

-Beg: a sufficiently degraded PC can debase herself to shop keepers for a limited time boost to sale prices

-Lean Forward: a super endowed PC can lean forward stunning enemies

-Come Hither: A willing enough PC can some even hostiles enemies to her, teleporting them into melee range

 

A lot of what SLS does is straight up punishing to both the player and the PC, with the right flavor though these abilities can be useful to the player encouraging exploration of different "play styles" while still serving that degrading/objectifying/ultra-misogyny kink.

 

[Not a prisoner]

Just revisiting this mod, and I'm confused by the version numbering on the download page ... v591.1 and v0.602?

Is 602 the newest version just numbered weirdly, or do I need 591?

[Lupine00]

15 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Now the thing I've been thinking about that's probably going to be fairly divisive..... A futa curse...

Would be disableable obviously but:

Why would guards give you a cock?

It just doesn't add up.

 

Inflate potions, sure. Bimbo potion, if you had one (would require some Hormones link up) would make sense. 

 

But futa?

 

Adding such a curse would be fun for some, but it feels like it should fit into some other mechanic or system besides guards.

 

Personally, if I wanted a character with a cock, I'd start with a male char but I wouldn't want to deny anyone else their futa fun.

[Monoman1]

7 hours ago, Fulanoo said:

treating the armors that I flagged as bikini through SLAX as full armors and not as bikini armors.

Hmm. Increased armor points for bikini armors is based on the presence of the _SLS_BikiniArmor keyword. So SLA_BikiniArmor won't work. 

To fix that I'd have to make SLAX a master. Which is messy. 

3 hours ago, Not a prisoner said:

v591.1 and v0.602?

602 is the newest. 

591.1 was a re-conversion of v0.591 for SE

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Why would guards give you a cock?

To humiliate you? It's not exactly a normal cock. You should still be treated as female in general but as more of a... 'freak'.

 

Also pits you against your fellow woman and makes you something of a predator. Temporarily. 

[814661]

Ive got a pretty big problem with dismemberment, got both SL Survival and the tweaked amputator installed.

 

So i fought a spider and lost my left arm in the process, no big deal went to the next city to get healing, this is where the issue starts: i pay the healer, healing starts, suddenly i get a popup through a small black window that says nothing but 'Forbidding.' that appears 2-3 times, during the 3rd time i can see the limb regrow and afterwards my character looks perfectly normal again except now im unable to loot anything and the game apparently treats me as having no arms at all because while trying to pick stuff up it will also say "Despite having no hands you manage to pick x item up" so apparently the healing dismembers me even further instead of actually healing.

 

I also tried the other healing methods through trolls or amputator itself, both have the exact same problems. Anyone got a solution?

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

To humiliate you? It's not exactly a normal cock. You should still be treated as female in general but as more of a... 'freak'.

Nope. Still don't get it.

 

The other women already despise you; I don't get why you would become a predator; and it's just one less hole for guard fun.

 

You could always use it to rape the guards though.

[Monoman1]

56 minutes ago, 814661 said:

Ive got a pretty big problem with dismemberment, got both SL Survival and the tweaked amputator installed.

 

So i fought a spider and lost my left arm in the process, no big deal went to the next city to get healing, this is where the issue starts: i pay the healer, healing starts, suddenly i get a popup through a small black window that says nothing but 'Forbidding.' that appears 2-3 times, during the 3rd time i can see the limb regrow and afterwards my character looks perfectly normal again except now im unable to loot anything and the game apparently treats me as having no arms at all because while trying to pick stuff up it will also say "Despite having no hands you manage to pick x item up" so apparently the healing dismembers me even further instead of actually healing.

 

I also tried the other healing methods through trolls or amputator itself, both have the exact same problems. Anyone got a solution?

SE I guess?

Still works ok for me. What amp framework are you using since I don't think there's any official conversion?

 

Sounds like you've tried it but F1 -> edit player -> heal.

If that doesn't work get another limb cut off and try healing again. 

As a last resort try 'StopQuest _SLS_AmputationHelplessQuest'

But I'd check everything is still working afterwards if you do. 

[Monoman1]

29 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Nope. Still don't get it.

You're no fun

30 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

The other women already despise you;

Ok....Why?

There's no content I can think of to that effect. 

30 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I don't get why you would become a predator

Because you need to unload in them to get rid of the thing. 

 

Looks like there's no interest in the idea anyway so I'll drop it. 

[audhol]

24 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Looks like there's no interest in the idea anyway so I'll drop it. 

I thought it was a great idea, the guards with more unusual tastes would get off on turning the P.C. into a freak, you could even get extra begging quest to perform with another female for their viewing pleasure. Might even make more sense that way than suddenly turning into a predator, you have to beg for the cure with a rising % chance the john doesn't give you a false cure that's actually another potion from monomans SLS apothecary.