Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, ja_wong said:

is there any fix for "Loc not know" yet? cuz i install windstad mine mod then message show up. or i can't play other mod that remodel cell at all 

Add the cell to the appropriate city in the mcm. 

[7osisg4d]

On 8/27/2020 at 3:40 AM, Monoman1 said:

Rough. Early game it's a lot of running from enemies, scrounging from the dead that I didn't kill and pilfering 'low hanging fruit' like lightly guarded chests I know of. 

First order of business is to set up a camp somewhere safe. Tent, tanning rack, stash. Get some basic survival skills (hunterborn). Smithing perk 1 to craft basics at the rack. 

Only sell stuff in small towns. Avoid enforcers at all costs. If caught then concentrate on paying off forced escort and dump them as soon as possible and go back to scrounging. If things go badly at this point I might be forced to steal stuff. Which I don't like doing as hired thugs are a pain in the ass. Mostly because they don't seem to work right. They'll attack me, usually defeat (defeat mod) me. Rape my PC. Let her go. Attack her again. Rape her again. Let go again. Never seems to get offloaded to SD. 

 

When I gather enough skills/perks/gold. Go for a licence. Which usually depends on how much armor/weapons/magic stuff I've built up in the stash. Do some starter missions for the companions/imperials/stormcloaks/mages guild to get easy-ish discounts on licences. Or do some thieves guild missions to get fences. The guy in Honningbrew meadery is especially useful. Outside town. Takes all items. 

Interesting. Got an essential mod list somewhere?

[ttpt]

Buyback hasn't worked correctly for me either, but I do have mods that fiddle with barter values and such which so I just chalked it up to mod conflicts.

[firepunch1]

23 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

:shrug:

 

100%:

 

25%:

 

I guess the reason this doesn't work for me might be related to why the other armor stuff breaks as well. I'll just tell myself my save is cursed, thanks for verifying.

20 hours ago, ttpt said:

Buyback hasn't worked correctly for me either, but I do have mods that fiddle with barter values and such which so I just chalked it up to mod conflicts.

Yeah, when you start approaching the plugin limit and have manually applied patches from a lot support threads it starts to become pretty impossible to narrow down the perp.

[ttpt]

Like it's definitely related to store mechanics in some fashion, since if I put buyback on, at 100% the actual values for me are even higher than they would be buying them from a store, it's also possible to buy jewelry, food and weapons that the license man is carrying on him, not just stuff that got confiscated from me.

 

So yeah, when some stuff is not working for me I just kind of shrug and live with it. The mod already does so many other things.

[Monoman1]

20 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

Interesting. Got an essential mod list somewhere?

Ahh no. Sorry.

10 hours ago, ttpt said:

Like it's definitely related to store mechanics in some fashion, since if I put buyback on, at 100% the actual values for me are even higher than they would be buying them from a store, it's also possible to buy jewelry, food and weapons that the license man is carrying on him, not just stuff that got confiscated from me.

I wouldn't worry too much about the actual final price. As long as the price IS changing. Just set it to something that seems 'fair' (not so fair of course).

Price aint exactly straight forward. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Speech See 'Prices' about half way down. The wording of the mcm might be a bit misleading. But like I said I don't really care as long as the price does change and you can set it to whatever you like. 

 

But I'll double check that I didn't muck up the percentage multipliers. 

 

Oh and 100% of original doesn't actually do anything IIRC. It's only lower where a perk is applied. So maybe it's just he's got mad bartering skillz. Plus I think I made the quartermasters dislike you so they'd grunt at you as much as vanillia skyrim allows. Maybe that's another factor. 

 

[firepunch1]

11 hours ago, ttpt said:

Like it's definitely related to store mechanics in some fashion, since if I put buyback on, at 100% the actual values for me are even higher than they would be buying them from a store, it's also possible to buy jewelry, food and weapons that the license man is carrying on him, not just stuff that got confiscated from me.

 

So yeah, when some stuff is not working for me I just kind of shrug and live with it. The mod already does so many other things.

Since our issues seemed so similiar I decided to try it at 100% as well. The value of the items are much higher than their original price, and I seem to have access to his food. I guess it was just a coincidence that the 25% option was pretty much identical to the actual price when I tested yesterday and I must've glossed over the 50% one, the values do indeed change just not at the expected rate. Whatever breaks this for us seems to be the same exact thing. 

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Third time's the charm, LoversLab can't display .bmp images from the ENB screenshot function so here's a .png

 

The pre-confiscation Dragon Bone Bikini piece was worth 350 Septims so at 100% of original price it's seen a 3,79x increase to 1328.

[Monoman1]

17 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

The pre-confiscation Dragon Bone Bikini piece was worth 350 Septims so at 100% of original price it's seen a 3,79x increase to 1328.

I think you might be confusing base value with final price. What you see in your inventory is the base value. What you see in the vendor screen is the final price. There are all sorts of modifiers thrown on top of the base value. Like your speech skill, the npcs speech skill, perks, gear etc. 

What is that items price if bought from a blacksmith? (Go and sell it to a blacksmith and try to buy it back)

[firepunch1]

10 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think you might be confusing base value with final price.

Well that's embarrassing. It was worth 1293 after selling it to Belethor's which is within margin of error considering whatever Sexlab Disparity speech modifier I might've been under. Turns out the option was just a lot more punishing than I initially thought. Funny thing is it's probably this mod that reduced it's inventory value to 350 as well with the misogyny price change I have ticked. Thanks for that nugget of knowledge. ?  

 

[ttpt]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

Oh and 100% of original doesn't actually do anything IIRC. It's only lower where a perk is applied. So maybe it's just he's got mad bartering skillz. Plus I think I made the quartermasters dislike you so they'd grunt at you as much as vanillia skyrim allows. Maybe that's another factor. 

 

 

Oh, I'd actually love it if that's what happening, I think some dialogue mod I have can change character's disposition too and as a policy I am as rude as possible to the guards every chance I get.

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

I think you might be confusing base value with final price. What you see in your inventory is the base value. What you see in the vendor screen is the final price. There are all sorts of modifiers thrown on top of the base value. Like your speech skill, the npcs speech skill, perks, gear etc. 

What is that items price if bought from a blacksmith? (Go and sell it to a blacksmith and try to buy it back)

Also usually my buy and sell prices are within like a 10% margin from the base value, however even debuffs of -10 speech make a big difference, but quartermasters disliking me are probably affecting that way more than I expected, and if firepunch1 seems to have the same problem and it wasn't really a problem then it's likely mine is working too.

[ttpt]

After double checking values, yeah, at 25% which is the smallest possible value he'll sell me the piece of armor at slightly higher (2614) than base value (2490) at 100% buyback it's 5657. Vendors sell price is roughly 1900 while buyback price is about 3000, so yeah, buyback is reduced but never below the base value.

 

He will also buy stuff for way less than base value as opposed to regular vendors, but it makes sense that he'd make a shitty merchant.

 

Also I assume he uses the chest where confiscated stuff is stored as his merchant chest, how safe do you think it would be for me to mark that chest to respawn, so that I'd have to buyback my stuff relatively quickly before they sell it off. EDIT: changed the xx044684 chest's flag to respawn and visited the _sls_storagecell to check if the change actually went through, it did, but god it's like a nightmare in that cell.

[7osisg4d]

On 5/22/2018 at 3:53 AM, Monoman1 said:

CBBE by Sucker343: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99955-sexlab-survival/?do=findComment&comment=2897810 

Hi Monoman,

 

I'd like to merge this with the TAWOBA rebalance.  Couldn't find a way in te5edit to choose just the slot part of the record to override in a batch way.  Got any ideas?

[PegadaSans]

I've been playing with this mod for some hours now, i'm impressed with how well it works.

I didn't have adjust many MCM settings, which i really like about it. and overall i have few gripes with the mod

Maybe the prices could be better easier early game and harder lategame?

 

The cool thing about the mod is that it makes it very stealth orientated.

I had a couple of stealth improvements, spell mods and such alongside other devious stuff.

I found the shadow stone useful as a get-away tool.

[Monoman1]

14 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

Hi Monoman,

 

I'd like to merge this with the TAWOBA rebalance.  Couldn't find a way in te5edit to choose just the slot part of the record to override in a batch way.  Got any ideas?

I can't think of any super easy way to do it. The only way I can think to do it is to use automation tools to copy the slot data but you'd have to select every item that uses the same slot (say bras), run an operation to copy. Then move on to the next slot (say thongs). It'd still be pretty time consuming and monotonous (monotonous = you're bound to mess something up eventually in my experience)

3 hours ago, PegadaSans said:

Maybe the prices could be better easier early game and harder lategame?

Currently things get easier as you go. Without talking about the increased loot from skyrim itself you'll get discounts based on faction ranks. 

Slaverun sort of adds to costs when towns start to get taken over - If you want to carry clothes you'll need a licence for it. 

There's also new upcoming licences that'll make things a little harder - property & freedom (also for slaverun towns). 

 

But if people have more ideas on how to make things harder later in the game I'm all eyes..... (but that's not a commitment on my part. I've already got so much to do).

[Corsayr]

15 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

Hi Monoman,

 

I'd like to merge this with the TAWOBA rebalance.  Couldn't find a way in te5edit to choose just the slot part of the record to override in a batch way.  Got any ideas?

Make a 3rd ESP and copy as overwrite all the items you want to change. Pullin only the parts of the records from each mod reconciling the two. 

 

Once that is done I suspect rebalance will actually be superfluous and can be removed. 

[Fulanoo]

Hey @Monoman1, is there any keyword to tag an armor (let's say a mask) as an item that makes it harder (changes the distance) for the guards to recognize my character? Or I'd have to change the armor to use the head slot?

[Guest AthenaESIV]

Hey Mono, I usually do this myself when i recompile so it is no biggie... but would it be possible to add into the MCM an option to only decrease female stats in the inequality section? So men's stats stay the same, but female stats are still negatively effected?

 

Also side note: would it be difficult to make it so adding health when leveling up does not add carry weight? I've been checking around and it seems easy (I'm adding it into my xEdit patch right now to test), just curious if that would screw other stuff in the game up much. tyty

[Tenri]

1 hour ago, AthenaESIV said:

Also side note: would it be difficult to make it so adding health when leveling up does not add carry weight? I've been checking around and it seems easy (I'm adding it into my xEdit patch right now to test), just curious if that would screw other stuff in the game up much. tyty

Normally adding health doesn't add carry weight? I though in vanilla only stamina added carry.

That said there is the community uncapper, that lets you change a lot of levelling things, and it is just a SKSE plugin no esp or anything.

[Corsayr]

Skytweak can also alter that

 

[PegadaSans]

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But if people have more ideas on how to make things harder later in the game I'm all eyes..... (but that's not a commitment on my part. I've already got so much to do).

 

 

Well at best i can think of base cost of things like taxes * a ratio.

This ratio could be a logistic growth curve starting at 0.1 and curving out at 2 when you become level 20.

 

A simpler solution is to add specific 3 tresholds at level 5, 10 and 15.

Where prices are raised by 10%.

"Something something dragons made things harder, gotta raise the taxes".

At some point your earnings cap out at level 15 at +30%.

 

The other option is to add more expenses mid-game.

Triggered by buying a bikini lisence for the third time for example, since that's a good indicator of a successfull play with the mod.

Maybe the the dragons hurt the whiterun economy and the guards put up new tax reforms.

To make up for their loss they invent a new license, the potion license.

Because women shouldn't be allowed to carry around drugs or poison.

The framework with the licenses is there so, maybe this is less work?

 

One thing i didn't quite understand or initially disliked was the heel requirement for the bikini curse.

It's not that i hate heels, but i wanted to see more of the TAWOB gloves and boots before being required to wear heels.

So adding a heel lisence or as a requirement later on would be more appropriate in my opinion.

Rather it should be more convenient to wear heels.

[7osisg4d]

On 9/2/2020 at 10:57 AM, Monoman1 said:

Ahh no. Sorry.

 

Would you be okay to share your load order?

[Monoman1]

8 hours ago, AthenaESIV said:

Hey Mono, I usually do this myself when i recompile so it is no biggie... but would it be possible to add into the MCM an option to only decrease female stats in the inequality section? So men's stats stay the same, but female stats are still negatively effected?

Why? Is there some problem? The bonuses given aren't all that much in the grand scheme of things.

8 hours ago, AthenaESIV said:

Also side note: would it be difficult to make it so adding health when leveling up does not add carry weight? I've been checking around and it seems easy (I'm adding it into my xEdit patch right now to test), just curious if that would screw other stuff in the game up much. tyty

Yea think that's normally stamina? I probably won't tbh. There must be a lot of mods that do this already. 

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

 

Would you be okay to share your load order?

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Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
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Spank That Ass.esp
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EFFDialogue.esp
OBISDB.esp
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Hunterborn.esp
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DeviousFollowers.esp
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Pooled Shouts.esp
SLS - Increased Food Value.esp
STA - Skin Balm Alt Recipes.esp
Wild Healing Fix.esp
SexLab sslAnimationSlots 1000.esp
EstrusSpider.esp

 

Requiem is version 1.9.4.1 because RSE has not been updated for Requiem 2. Which is the biggest problem with requiem. Patches. 

[Monoman1]

12 hours ago, Fulanoo said:

Hey @Monoman1, is there any keyword to tag an armor (let's say a mask) as an item that makes it harder (changes the distance) for the guards to recognize my character? Or I'd have to change the armor to use the head slot?

Anything in the hair or head slot should act as a disguise.

[Meteox]

On 9/1/2020 at 10:48 AM, Monoman1 said:

I don't know then. Maybe post a log and I'll take a look. You've also not said which needs mod you use.

I tend to forget information as I "say" most of the things in my mind before typing it. Anyways, I use RND. I've posted the log below but I think I should mention what I in this test: I loaded my latest save, disabled and re-enabled the option that inflates the belly after swallowing cum, gave it a few seconds then ported to Whiterun stables. Then I got my character to suck and swallow the cum of 4 different horses (All were "bursting with cum") and auto sucked a dog.

 

The results were: The belly didn't inflate (I even checked FHU), hunger and thirst didn't get any hits and the cum hunger stayed at ravenous level. I didn't reset FHU in this test but if you want me to submit another test after doing that for some reason, I'll do it.

 

Papyrus.0.log