Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

15 minutes ago, Corsec said:

Does this suggest my game is bugged?

Not necessarily. Weapons drawn (which includes fists) is a rule. 

 

I would have thought that if the approach had not been successful that it would time out (There's a timeout built in). I'd have to check it out for myself. I tend to avoid brawls because of the bugs. Not sure how I'd detect a brawl but I would have thought that you'd be flagged as In Combat which should avoid triggering approaches. 

[Corsec]

14 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Not necessarily. Weapons drawn (which includes fists) is a rule. 

 

I would have thought that if the approach had not been successful that it would time out (There's a timeout built in). I'd have to check it out for myself. I tend to avoid brawls because of the bugs. Not sure how I'd detect a brawl but I would have thought that you'd be flagged as In Combat which should avoid triggering approaches. 

 

I'm not sure how SLS might be interacting with DEC, DV and Defeat. I know that DEC lengthens the brawl AI duration, onlookers were still commenting even after the brawl finished, and even after the PC was sent to the kennels.

 

I had all the rules enabled for guard enforcement. I know that guards would approach the PC for having fists drawn. I was concerned because the approaches were happening repetitively after the PC had unequipped her fists. There were no approaches during the brawl when the PC had equipped her fists, only after with the unarmed PC.

[Monoman1]

6 minutes ago, Corsec said:

onlookers were still commenting even after the brawl finished,

Yea I've had that bug. Another reason I avoid brawls. Though I think that one is specific to DEC? I had hoped it had been fixed since - I haven't updated DEC in a while (just too busy).

7 minutes ago, Corsec said:

I had all the rules enabled for guard enforcement. I know that guards would approach the PC for having fists drawn. I was concerned because the approaches were happening repetitively after the PC had unequipped her fists. There were no approaches during the brawl when the PC had equipped her fists, only after with the unarmed PC.

Guards were probably cheering? Scenes take priority over everything else. Force greets won't work on Npcs in scenes as a result. 

[Kamekami]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

But this bring problems. Cum junkies always swallow reflexively. 

than should be a option to store in another hole, this also will make the extraction more easy 

trolls are strong and aggressive so if you use defeat you could just surrender to them

[Monoman1]

21 minutes ago, tamai said:

Its literally only this weapon in my game i swear

I don't see how.... The kitchen knife is just a carbon copy of the vanilla knife. Just with the name changed from 'knife' -> 'kitchen knife' to be a bit more misogynistic. 

Pro tip: get a woodaxe or pickaxe. They're not contraband so you can that 'do your chores'. Better than a kitchen knife. 

[Lupine00]

5 hours ago, tamai said:

I am literally the only idiot here who cares about this weapon i know lol

Nope. Me again.

I have pre-existing kitchen knife posts as evidence.

If you use a mod that limits the weapon weight you can swing, it can be one of the best weapons you can handle, and guards permit it too.

Almost a dream weapon in that context.

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, Kamekami said:

12 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

But this bring problems. Cum junkies always swallow reflexively. 

than should be a option to store in another hole, this also will make the extraction more easy 

trolls are strong and aggressive so if you use defeat you could just surrender to them

I'd plug Bestial Essence again, but it's hard to get hold of now unless you backport it from SE.

 

The author removed everything from LL, with no explanation and reposted it ... nowhere?

(The whole Merope is Carabosse thing only confuses me further).

 

At least the Zodiac thing has a thread about the removal, which I still can't quite follow.

Removing your mods because they're not finished ... if everyone did that, practically every mod on LL and the Nexus ought to be taken down.

[audhol]

13 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

But this bring problems. Cum junkies always swallow reflexively. 

Have you considered changing cum inflation from swallowing? If you sent the event straight to SLIF for swallowed cum you could track the pool independently from anal pool. Perhaps decay over time for digesting cum or force regurgitate to collect cum in bottles? Might give you more options for future features including harvesting the troll cum.

[Lupine00]

47 minutes ago, audhol said:

or force regurgitate

Ugghh! You're making me force regurgitate right now.

 

 

I guess the logical way for it to work - without something quite so contorted (or revolting)  is that a cum-junkie who is satisfied, or glutted, would be able to harvest to a container, if a container is available, despite their normal urge to swallow. But if they aren't satisfied, they will swallow. Or maybe it's willpower dependent? It would be nice for willpower to do something so fitting for its name.

 

I expect Monoman had at least the first part of this in mind when he noted the cum-junkie behavior.

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Almost a dream weapon in that context.

Hmm. I might have to change it to a spoon.... Never can be too careful.

50 minutes ago, audhol said:

Have you considered changing cum inflation from swallowing? If you sent the event straight to SLIF for swallowed cum you could track the pool independently from anal pool. Perhaps decay over time for digesting cum or force regurgitate to collect cum in bottles? Might give you more options for future features including harvesting the troll cum.

Having half the inflation mechanics in SLS and half in FHU sounds like trouble. I'd be better off making a 'tweak' of FHU if I was to go down that route. 

22 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I guess the logical way for it to work is that a cum-junkie who is satisfied,

Yea I suppose that's reasonable. 

No containers -> options =  Swallow only. 

> 0 containers -> options = Swallow or spit to container (for you to drink later)

> 0 containers but not satisfied -> options = swallow only.

 

But this in turn brings up the value of the 'potion'. I guess that 'cum fullness' sort of takes care of this. It's not as if you can sit around and suck off the same troll over and over to er... grind for gold. 

[audhol]

23 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

a cum-junkie who is satisfied, or glutted, would be able to harvest to a container, if a container is available

Yes that makes sense, having the container in the inventory would cancel the auto swallow if satisfied. Willpower is a nice idea too, I wonder what % of users of SLS use DF too? Probably quite high I would guess. The problem is I suspect most people run willpower deliberately quite low to have the most fun with the DF, maybe a toggle option.

[audhol]

4 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

But this in turn brings up the value of the 'potion'.

If you made it valuable lupine would probably make the DF force you to fill up the bottles for them to sell.

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, audhol said:

If you made it valuable lupine would probably make the DF force you to fill up the bottles for them to sell.

That would be a way of overcoming low willpower: the DF provides the willpower by demanding you not swallow.

A cum collecting deal would be a lot like the milking deal I suppose.

[Network]

17 hours ago, Mehmeme said:

Hm, that didnt help. I just kinda assumed it had something to do with that since it occured after upgrading. This is what it looks like:

 

But good news, creature fondling works again after 'have you tried turning it off and on again?', and the special mushrooms show up too now after being satiated once.

I also have the same bug, and I also assume that it is from SLS. My character locks on someone around her and keeps doing so for quite some time (looking at them through walls even). I also have the first person problem, though I assumed it functions like that because I have Enhanced Camera installed. My only other new mod addition was Apropos 2, and also of course the updates for Monoman's mods (SLS and STA). Unless Apropos does that and I don't know about it, then it's probably this mod, since another user reported this aswell.

I assume it's probably a bug related to the daydreaming problem that I had on the same save before you released the fix. Didn't try a new game lately so it could be a possibility.

[Monoman1]

48 minutes ago, Network said:

I assume it's probably a bug related to the daydreaming problem that I had on the same save before you released the fix. Didn't try a new game lately so it could be a possibility.

Use the menu to look at an Npc. Then 'Stop looking At'. That should clear your look target and your PC should snap back to looking straight ahead. 

Let me know if it happens again. 

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, tamai said:

I am happy now not to mention I added impact data because that was missing as well, lastly i added the files for the knife 1stperson and regular

The texture on this knife doesn't appear to be a vanilla texture. At least I can't seem to find it in my setup. 

textures\clutter\diningset\butterknife.dds

 

It's purple for me. Trying to add the old knife texture but it's obviously wrong - the texture is all over the place. Or maybe it is right given how poor vanilla textures are.... Hard to tell....

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Or maybe it is right given how poor vanilla textures are.... Hard to tell....

Nah that can't be right. Looks like either textures are out of order or are completely wrong for the shape. See pic: 

 

Spoiler

 

Edit: Looks like this knife is from this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5493

I'll have a go at doing the vanilla knife. 

 

Edit2: Ok finished adding the vanilla knife.... Sure is ugly though. 

[Mehmeme]

1 hour ago, Network said:

I also have the same bug, and I also assume that it is from SLS. My character locks on someone around her and keeps doing so for quite some time (looking at them through walls even). I also have the first person problem, though I assumed it functions like that because I have Enhanced Camera installed. My only other new mod addition was Apropos 2, and also of course the updates for Monoman's mods (SLS and STA). Unless Apropos does that and I don't know about it, then it's probably this mod, since another user reported this aswell.

I assume it's probably a bug related to the daydreaming problem that I had on the same save before you released the fix. Didn't try a new game lately so it could be a possibility.

I dont use enhanced camera or apropos, so Id guess its none of them. I havent found a fix yet either, except playing bow in third person if necessary.

[N.Gamma]

Since the last version of SLS I tested was months ago, I have a question.

Does the mod include some kind of level system or faction dependent reputation of the character?

I mean, it's a lot to be considered a weak woman at the beginning of a new game. And that the guards won't let a weak woman leave town without escort and taxes.

But what about when I'm the Mighty Dragonborn, or leader of a faction like the Champions or Archmage?

I think for such cases there should be options in the gatekeeper dialog, such as "Do you know who you're dealing with? I am the Archmage of the Winterhold Academy. Step aside or I'll turn you into a mouse."

or

"How dare you I am the Tane of this town..."

and similar dialogues for other frakions.

You should be able to convince the guards somehow that they are no longer a weak woman. And you should also be able to punish them if they are disrespectful to the player.

 

If something like this already exists in the mod, or is planned for the future, just ignore my post. Then a short, yes is already in it or it is planned as an answer.

[Monoman1]

21 minutes ago, AreaGamer said:

If something like this already exists in the mod, or is planned for the future, just ignore my post. Then a short, yes is already in it or it is planned as an answer.

Sorry but I don't have a whole lot of interest in this. The amount of work this would involve and the complications (headaches) it would bring just isn't worth what it would bring to the table IMO. And I haven't even finished the 'weak girl' side of the mod. It would be nice to have. Maybe some day but I wouldn't hold your breath. 

 

One option would simply be to turn off tolls or whatever, whenever you feel you've reached this point. I'd argue that going from 'treated like dirt' to being ignored would be odd. But then going from being 'treated like dirt' to being the most powerful thing in the universe is probably even more odd really. 

 

I still prefer @Lupine00's glass ceiling idea - where men take the credit for the things you do. I believes she's just putting the finishing touches on it right now

(I'm kidding. It'll probably never see the light of day)

[Lupine00]

18 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I still prefer @Lupine00's glass ceiling idea - where men take the credit for the things you do. I believes she's just putting the finishing touches on it right now

(I'm kidding. It'll probably never see the light of day)

It was a total joke. I never even claimed I was thinking of making it.

ToH Real and False Heroes sort of does it anyway now, and there it's also intended as a joke.

 

I did originally wonder if it could be done as lazily as just putting a stooge there, who the NPC could appear to be talking to instead of you, but the important part is making sure you get no quest rewards, and that would lead to lots of conflicts. Given that, why not go all-in on conflicts and make a mod where part of the joke is that it conflicts with almost everything on purpose?

[Monoman1]

30 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

. I never even claimed I was thinking of making it.

Awww

30 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

why not go all-in on conflicts and make a mod where part of the joke is that it conflicts with almost everything on purpose?

Because you know people won't read that it contains conflicts and complain anyway?

[Lupine00]

Better Blowjobs mentions a "teethforward slider" in Racemenu, but I can't find it. Maybe I'm just blind.

What menu is it in?

[sickomusiclovers]

does teasing and dancing attract guard attention or can i bypass tolls with it, if not that would be a great idea 

 

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Better Blowjobs mentions a "teethforward slider" in Racemenu, but I can't find it. Maybe I'm just blind.

Don't remember seeing that slider myself. 

53 minutes ago, sickomusiclovers said:

does teasing and dancing attract guard attention or can i bypass tolls with it, if not that would be a great idea 

 

The 2 are awaiting a purpose. For now they're mostly for role-play. 

Teasing does raise your arousal though.