Sexlab Survival

[Guest]

1 hour ago, tamai said:

oh jeez my fault no its not the same, here is the mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5493   meshes and textures I was using x_x i completely forgot.

You are really serious with that kitchen knife ?????

[audhol]

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Better Blowjobs mentions a "teethforward slider" in Racemenu, but I can't find it. Maybe I'm just blind.

What menu is it in?

I think its referring to this, please excuse dirty face but my DF insists on covering me with this goo.

Spoiler

 

[Monoman1]

New devices menu. Allows you to unlock devices on Npcs who's inventory you can't normally access. Can also unlock yourself or followers but honestly you're better off using the inventory for that. It's fairly slow to gather all the info it needs. But handily it'll also tell you what key a device expects without having to dig through all the properties in TesEdit.....

Obviously you need the key but you get a shiny new device for yourself. 

Don't know why I added this but hey, might be a handy thing to have some day. 

 

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[firepunch1]

58 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

But handily it'll also tell you what key a device expects without having to dig through all the properties in TesEdit.....

How exciting! 

[Mehmeme]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Don't know why I added this but hey, might be a handy thing to have some day.

Really is handy, I still dont know why I cant remove some gags with a head restraints key.

[Lupine00]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Don't know why I added this but hey, might be a handy thing to have some day. 

It seems nice, but in the way that EFF's incredibly useful extra follower inventory is nice.

 

We can see that:

• DD offers a built-in interface for device interaction, via message-boxes that appear while using the inventory.
• It has never offered a simple or consistent way to manage whether devices in an NPCs inventory are worn or not, and I believe that's because different mods are intended to decide whether an NPC will permit you to bind or unbind them.

 

This menu means that SLS is making this decision universally for unbind, and by not putting it in an MCM "Debug" menu, it's in a grey area whether its interactions are "in character" or not - but the consumption of keys will suggest to most users that it is "in character".

 

This possibly has the potential to confuse some older mods.

It would be nice if DD itself raised a mod event that indicated who was being bound or released (and from what, and by what means), so there was an easy and universal way to detect device operations from outside.

I'm not aware of such events, but given the nature of device scripts, it seems impractical to expect such events to ever be added to devices in old mods.

You can handle equip events and add/remove events, but those handlers are specific to an actor, or an object, and so problematic (and bugged anyway).

 

There are mods that dabble in this area for the player, but not for NPCs, so this is conceptually new (as well as new to SLS).

 

Something like this should have been part of the core DD framework, with maybe some basic faction control to determine what NPCs you are allowed to tamper with. Of course it isn't, and no signs it ever will be.

[Monoman1]

55 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

This menu means that SLS is making this decision universally for unbind

Yea I know. Look I'm just providing a tool. It's up to people to use it well (an invitation for trouble)

Given that keys are rare (or should be) I can't see people using it all that much. Really I just want to know which god damned key I need (if any). 

[ck2modfan]

Upgraded to latest version on existing save game. Really like the daydreaming function. First upgrade it was triggering for every conversation. Now it doesn't trigger at all. Went from satisfied to peckish to satisfied. How can daydreaming be initiated again? Maybe an option can be added to wheel? 

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Yea I know. Look I'm just providing a tool. It's up to people to use it well (an invitation for trouble)

Given that keys are rare (or should be) I can't see people using it all that much. Really I just want to know which god damned key I need (if any). 

I'm not trying to harass you for doing good works.

 

It's just bothersome this has to be addressed in SLS at all.

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Upgraded to latest version on existing save game. Really like the daydreaming function. First upgrade it was triggering for every conversation. Now it doesn't trigger at all. Went from satisfied to peckish to satisfied. How can daydreaming be initiated again? Maybe an option can be added to wheel? 

Try going from satisfied to hungry. Daydreaming fires from hungry and worse. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I'm not trying to harass you for doing good works.

Never said you were harassing me

I'm just saying that I understand it has potential for misuse. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

It's just bothersome this has to be addressed in SLS at all.

Yup :S

But let's not go there.

[Monoman1]

@Corsec

Got into a couple of DEC brawls today just to check things out. First off

 

Losing DEC brawls seems to work ok. Npcs don't bug out. Winning brawls is where the bugs start for me. 

So lose the fight

 

But I could not reproduce any guard approaches after the fight ended without waiting a while a putting up my fists again. 

Might have been some script lag issue. 

[ck2modfan]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Try going from satisfied to hungry. Daydreaming fires from hungry and worse. 

 

After sleep, jumped to ravenous. Daydreaming definitely worked. Noticed two things... male characters having missing wrists. Noticed same issue on first release as well. Talking with female characters worked as well except for my custom female follower. It did work on first release. Tried look at and stop looking at. Other custom female potential followers worked.

[Monoman1]

7 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

male characters having missing wrists.

Yea I think I've fixed this now. 

7 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

except for my custom female follower.

What's not working exactly?

The imagined moaning or the imagined cum or both?

[ck2modfan]

26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yea I think I've fixed this now. 

What's not working exactly?

The imagined moaning or the imagined cum or both?

Both... Nothing seems to be working on female follower.

 

For future, will you consider making more values configurable? Specifically the thresholds for peckish, hungry, etc... Also, just like the auto suck @ ____ drop down where you can select trigger, the same for (no) bathing and daydreaming.

[Lupine00]

23 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Specifically the thresholds for peckish, hungry, etc...

But there was no need for this before, as it was mainly a way to advise the player of their current hunger level. Being able to set one value: the limit for ravenous (for example) would be more than enough.

 

Sometimes less is more. The SLS MCM is already full of clutter, and it's hard to find things. Adding super-detailed configuration for a feature that was previously functional without it isn't going to deliver a lot of value. If you want to configure lots of numbers, install SLD and configure until your fingers drop off.

[Monoman1]

41 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

Nothing seems to be working on female follower.

Ah ok that's probably the 'Must be a playable race' check. Some follower mods use their own custom race. Unfortunately this check is important. I could maybe change it to a voice type check but then if the follower uses a custom voice it won't work on them either. But there aren't very many custom voiced followers so maybe that's the way to go. Edit: I'll do an OR. See how that goes. 

 

As for more options - some of them are tricky. The thresholds in particular because of the encourage beastiality option. But as well as that I'm hesitant to add a pile more options since hitting the script variable limit for the mcm script. I've managed to mitigate that but I'm worried there are other limitations lurking. The mcm script is approaching 10,000 lines right now. 

[ck2modfan]

5 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Ah ok that's probably the 'Must be a playable race' check. Some follower mods use their own custom race. Unfortunately this check is important. I could maybe change it to a voice type check but then if the follower uses a custom voice it won't work on them either. But there aren't very many custom voiced followers so maybe that's the way to go. 

 

As for more options - some of them are tricky. The thresholds in particular because of the encourage beastiality option. But as well as that I'm hesitant to add a pile more options since hitting the script variable limit for the mcm script. I've managed to mitigate that but I'm worried there are other limitations lurking. The mcm script is approaching 10,000 lines right now. 

My follower does not use custom voice and agree most do not have.

 

No problem on the options. 

 

Appreciate all the work you are putting into your mods!!

[Guest]

I already fear the answer, but is it possible to reduce "cum addiction" by abstinence?

 

Would make a great devious nun sect too: Sisters of Abstinence! Join the Order and wander the lands in Chastity until cum addiction is far enough down to stop the daydreaming.

Of course you would suffer from intense daydreaming and Dremora with chastity keys would show up to test your resistance. A license would be needed too (but bought at the temple?), because no SLS city would allow such prude behavior in their misogynist rage. Caught without a chastity license? The kennels will cure any nun in no time from her abstinent ways! The SLS enforcers know best what is good for women.

 

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, OOH SHINY! said:

is it possible to reduce "cum addiction" by abstinence?

Well yea that's the primary way. But it's quite slow. I think there's like maybe 500/600 points of addiction at full addiction. Default of 1 point decay per hour = about 20-25 days without taking a hot load. That's a long time to avoid some brute forcing his meat down your PCs throat. 

16 minutes ago, OOH SHINY! said:

Would make a great devious nun sect too: Sisters of Abstinence! Join the Order and wander the lands in Chastity until cum addiction is far enough down to stop the daydreaming.

Of course you would suffer from intense daydreaming and Dremora with chastity keys would show up to test your resistance. A license would be needed too (but bought at the temple?), because no SLS city would allow such prude behavior in their misogynist rage. Caught without a chastity license? The kennels will cure any nun in no time from her abstinent ways! The SLS enforcers know best what is good for women.

Ha it's an interesting idea. I'm not overly fond of long term chastity though. 

[Lupine00]

29 minutes ago, OOH SHINY! said:

Of course you would suffer from intense daydreaming and Dremora with chastity keys would show up to test your resistance. A license would be needed too (but bought at the temple?), because no SLS city would allow such prude behavior in their misogynist rage. Caught without a chastity license? The kennels will cure any nun in no time from her abstinent ways! The SLS enforcers know best what is good for women.

This is turning into Shout Like a Virgin now ... it's pretty much got you covered there ... enjoy!

 

 

But as a compromise feature, what if wearing a gag significantly increased the addiction decay rate?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Default of 1 point decay per hour = about 20-25 days without taking a hot load. That's a long time to avoid some brute forcing his meat down your PCs throat. 

I would even say: Impossible! At least on games with any SL connected mods, but who in the right mind would play with such a Skyrim setup.

 

4 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Ha it's an interesting idea. I'm not overly fond of long term chastity though.

Doesn't need to be long term. Short and intense. The chastity part would speed up the cum addiction decay according to the chastity license bought. Like the normal licenses, just the other way around, pay more for less time. This would also give the player a chance too choose if it will become a long term chastity or a short term (depended on how high the price is set in MCM). To prevent it to become too easy to reduce cum addiction by just spending some (a lot) of money the chastity could have other drawbacks, like reducing magic to zero similar to the SLS devious collar. Alternative there could be no chastity involved at all, but just a slave tat(s) that prevents the player from orgasm and causes debuffs (as high as max cum addiction as long as worn). Slave tats would also reduce the chance of incompatibilities with other mods. Either way the "chastity" idea would relay on mechanics that are already included in SLS for the license system.

 

I'm just daydreaming here, because the cum addiction would be more fun if it has some chance to escape it for a short time, while also adding an interesting dynamic to the game, but also without the need to invent something new by using existing SLS mechanics.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

This is turning into Shout Like a Virgin now ... it's pretty much got you covered there ... enjoy!

That was a shallow comment ?

[Monoman1]

Just posted 0.6. I'll probably post this as the main version in a day or two if there's no major bugs etc.

 

- V0.600  (04-Aug-2020) 

- Upgrading? Rebuild your TesEdit patch. Save and load after installing.

- Added troll cum potion with all the benefits and drawbacks of sucking it directly from the source. Added potions to apothecaries. They're rare in small towns. Better chance of finding them in city apothecaries. 
- Added sexy butterflies to daydreaming with thanks to Psycho_Bill for the models and textures.
- Added devices menu. Allows you to unlock Npcs but should be used wisely! More importantly it allows you to 'examine' a device and learn what key you need to unlock it (if any).
- Gave kennel slaves some starting FHU cum inflation to get the ball rolling. Cut tattoos down to 1 because they're not working and it's wasted processing time. Still waiting on a reply about that.
- Some kitchen knife fixes - 1st person model, draw/sheath sound, keywords. With thanks to tamai.
- Added 'Look At Debug' to the debug menu. If you have problems with wobbley aim then try setting your IsNpc variable to 0. 
- Fixed daydreaming causing men to have gaps and er... holes. I think...?
- Removed CumSwallowInflate Quest and script and integrated it into Utility.
- Updated some of the beg for cock anims by Audhol.

- Some minor bug fixes and improvements. 

[audhol]

13 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I'll probably post this as the main version in a day or two if there's no major bugs etc.

Did you consider replacing the beg anims for the ones that dont sink? should be a straight swap from the knees ones to squatting ones.

Begstart.hkx Handpump.hkx Stickyfingers.hkx

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, audhol said:

Did you consider replacing the beg anims for the ones that dont sink? should be a straight swap from the knees ones to squatting ones.

I did

Updated some of the beg for cock anims by Audhol.

 

Still lacks a purpose however.