Sexlab Survival

[Crota]

When I beg people for a pair of boots or gold and do the job they keep saying I did a terrible job and give me nothing. Is this because I have Sex experienced checked and SLSO installed? Do I just need to get more experience before I can actually get items or money from them?

[Network]

The "Daydreaming" feature cannot be turned off in the MCM menu.
I turn it off and it doesn't change anything. Male NPCs still get stripped and my character makes a weird face.

Further, since from its description, I am led to believe it is tied to cum addiction, the entire system as to when it's triggered seems to be broken as well.
My character is a virgin, and has 0 cum addiction, yet the daydreaming still triggers.

It is honestly quite annoying, I can't turn it off and I started my new game with this version of the mod so I can't just rollback. Is there going to be any hotfix soon?

[firepunch1]

54 minutes ago, Crota said:

When I beg people for a pair of boots or gold and do the job they keep saying I did a terrible job and give me nothing. Is this because I have Sex experienced checked and SLSO installed? Do I just need to get more experience before I can actually get items or money from them?

If your SLSO is set up properly then you simply failed to make them cum, hence why they call you a worthless whore and refuse to aid you. I think there's a mechanic that makes you more proficient in different sex acts depending on your experience. as well as one that makes it easier to bring certain races in Tamriel to climax. Make sure you understand how the mini-game works too (or just make it easier in the settings.) 

[donttouchmethere]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

My PC characters mouth opens perfectly when the button is pressed but a short time later was closing to half closed and later then closing completely. 

That's the same I see on my game atm. On my Setup it's blinking unrelated.

I always thought it's a DDi issue, the DDi gag patch doesn't perfectly fix it, it just makes sure that the mouth opens again after it closes for what ever reason.

Why do I show the issue with a gag? Because the symptoms are the same as with SLS open mouth.

(maybe that's a hint?)

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Now the same issue with SLS, just that instead of open/close like with the DDi patch, the mouth just closes

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and here the full sequence with half closed mouth and after that fully closed mouth:

 

 

 

 

The daydreaming feature seems to be totally unaffected by either cum hunger or MCM settings. It's always at 100% ?

 

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Also there are some oddities:

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I removed all underlying equipment (means also the default equipment) from this NPC, so he would be perfectly naked,

but as soon as I start a conversation I get gaps:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not all NPCs are effected by this, or at least not visible as long as gloves and boots cover the gaps.

Okay, basically all male NPC get the gaps during dialogue if they don't wear outfits that are large enough to cover the gaps

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boots too short and no gloves to hide the gaps

 

gloves and boots hide the gaps during dialogue

 

no gloves, gaps visible

 

The SOS underwear blinking in and out happens only with NPC that have an underlying alternative outfit, like NPC that wear armor, but if you remove those they all the sudden wear some civil clothes instead of being naked (I remove those underlying outfits with "Dress up lover's" mod).

[audhol]

40 minutes ago, Network said:

My character is a virgin, and has 0 cum addiction, yet the daydreaming still triggers.

 

3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

The daydreaming feature seems to be totally unaffected by either cum hunger or MCM settings. It's always at 100% ?

Agreed, thought it was maybe an se issue so didnt flag it as a problem. It also triggered for me as a virgin who has never touched cum and had the phasing of naked/clothed.

[Monoman1]

Posted 0.598 to the post. Should fix oddness with daydream. 

 

The problem stems from the fact that the OnInit() portion of the code is ran even if the quest is not flagged at 'start game enabled'. I know this but it's easy to forget. 

Also fixed a bug in the mcm toggle. 

[Monoman1]

56 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Now the same issue with SLS, just that instead of open/close like with the DDi patch, the mouth just closes

Yea I too have been seeing something similar with the gag. Gags used to work perfectly for me so it's something that's been added recently-ish

 

56 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Also there are some oddities:

The gaps I'll have to look into later. I'm out of time. I just figured it was the crappy meshes in my creation kit profile. 

 

Are you guys getting the imagined cum on the ladies faces? Haven't seen anyone mention it yet. 

 

The blinking in and out of the undies: there's got to be a bad interaction with something else I think. 

What's happening in the background is that the _SLS_HalfNakedArmor is being added to the Npc and equipped. 

_SLS_HalfNakedArmor should be marked as revealing in SOS so maybe just add one your yourself, equip it and check in the SOS mcm that it is marked as revealing. 

 

Initially it was also making males fully erect but that was causing issues so I've left it out for now. 

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, Mehmeme said:

Also I noticed that daydreaming applies , which is a bit weird.

Fuck. I will fix that as soon as I can

 

[donttouchmethere]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Gags used to work perfectly for me so it's something that's been added recently-ish

must be something I have added now too ?

It's not with all Setups that the gagged open/close mouth happens, but I also see my PC mostly from behind xD

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The gaps I'll have to look into later. I'm out of time. I just figured it was the crappy meshes in my creation kit profile. 

uff, better some crappy meshes in a creation kit than me messed up somewhere ^^

 

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Are you guys getting the imagined cum on the ladies faces? Haven't seen anyone mention it yet. 

I was too long in that tavern so after a while everyone was covered in real virtual cum and not the imagined one ^^.

But I found a series without imagined cum I guess:

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(Kziit mouth nif btw, wouldn't get that gaping mouth with female facial animations, goes well with the tongue tho)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Dupline]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You just add a check:

If !sslBaseExpression.IsMouthOpen(PlayerRef)

       ; Ok to change/clear expression

EndIf

Unfortuantly I don't have the knowledge of papyrus to do this. No idea where to stick it and in your edit to player headtracking, I couldn't find the exact same change.

 

Edit. Actually I'm not even sure it's realted. It still happens without any head tracking.

[Operand]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

This head tracking mod seems to half close the PC mouth on track events

Ah, I'm using a different one, with custom voice sets (I created one by myself for it). This one. Does exactly as I described - if PC looks to someone then the expression changes and the mouth is closed (damn, I didn't know you are looking into the issue and I didn't want to push my luck asking for a fix ? )

 

Apart from that there are also things like Blush When Aroused (here on LL) or anything that changes the archetype of the PC (my guess that even idle animation mods can do this)

[donttouchmethere]

I think I getting closer what closes the mouth regularly on my setup:

PC Head Tracking and Voice Type => tried to deactivated options to find the right one, but at the end I had to just deactivate all functions of it. To Test it's effects I had to reload or restart Skyrim everytime I changed something in it's MCM.

 

Devious Training 3 => if gag training is activated.

Deactivating the gag training stops the opening/closing of the mouth. If gag training was activated before => after gag training deactivation a DT3 reset, a cell change or/and game restart is needed to see the changes without DT3 going crazy.

 

Can live without the DT3 gag training, but the PC head tracking hits hard.

I even fear those two where conflicting all the time (if trained in gags and/or blindfolds) >.<

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Dupline said:

Edit. Actually I'm not even sure it's realted. It still happens without any head tracking.

Unfortunately it's not specific to headtracking mods. Any mod that tries to set or clear the player facial expression will cancel it. 

 

Perhaps the only path is to simply add a more aggressive setting of the mouth being open periodically instead of being a once off. Having your mouth open isn't something you do for extended periods of time anyway.....

But it's not ideal at all. 

[Moth Seraph]

I honestly don't know if this is the right thread to ask...

 

When my character's hands/arms are severed, she can't equip spells. Is there a way to disable this restriction? My character doesn't cast magic from her hands.

 

I didn't see anything related in the MCM. I'm using Amputator Framework Tweaked 1.3 and this mod. Perhaps it's something I can easily modify in xEdit?

 

Thank you.

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, tamai said:

I just need to find a strong handsome male follower who can protect me

Grommok the Bruiser (from Troubles of Heroine) or Andrew the Bulwark (from Sex Slaves - Mia's Lair) are both great candidates  

 

Alternatively, there's always the classic: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71754 and some people seem to like Kaidan   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86872 or his improved clone (imaginatively named Kaidan 2)  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/92811/ but as far as I know there is no way to marry the jumped up cat you can rescue from a prison.

[tamai]

20 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Grommok the Bruiser (from Troubles of Heroine) or Andrew the Bulwark (from Sex Slaves - Mia's Lair) are both great candidates  

 

Alternatively, there's always the classic: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71754 and some people seem to like Kaidan   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86872 or his improved clone (imaginatively named Kaidan 2)  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/92811/ but as far as I know there is no way to marry the jumped up cat you can rescue from a prison.

Thanks for the recommendation kaiden looks great you're awesome!! I was deciding between cael and bishop personally my usuall skyrim husbands from skyrim romance ?,  but I'm willing to sleep around and give someone else a chance lol

 

 

Edit: not into cat guys I'm a dog person anyway

[Rob_J]

Ahh the naked men is a feature not a bug... but they keep flashing between clothed and not and are missing their penis which is disconcerting. Daydreaming kinda needs a bit of a drunk effect like soft focus vignette and weird colours  

[Lupine00]

4 hours ago, tamai said:

I was deciding between cael and bishop

Grommok the Bruiser is (obviously?) not a serious suggestion unless you like being punched and spat on, but with a SAM body and updated face texture he has a certain masculine charm and is a highly effective follower (maybe too effective).

 

Andrew the Bulkwark is (I believe) a serious attempt at a male companion, but his personality is a bit bi-polar and he can be quite annoying at times. He isn't bad looking, and he is fully voiced, but he has some ... funny ideas ... about relationships. He comes in two flavors: dominant or non-dominant. The latter version is less annoying, probably, but playing through the entire dominant Andrew quest line is still quite a good experience and there's a lot to do. Some of the female characters you meet in that mod are fully voiced, and have somewhat annoying voices/personalities, but they are at least memorable.

 

Kaidan 2 is set up for marriage, and AWS comes with a patch for him.

[audhol]

trying to chase down why .597/.598/.599 is super unstable in SE (I dont have the @nomkaz magic touch) have found some misplaced texture paths.

The BYOH aradia is textures\architecture\farmhouse\Mushroom03Ara.dds

Should be               textures\SL Survival\Aradia\architecture\farmhouse\Mushroom03Ara.dds

All 3 are the same.

[ttpt]

On 7/13/2020 at 10:16 AM, Monoman1 said:

Added 'fly you fools' to combat idles. Tries to force nearby followers to flee with you in fights you can't possibly win. Stops automatically when combat ends or you can manually toggle to re-engage. 

Hey does this mean you integrated "fly you fools" into survival, or is it just getting pulled into the wheel and "fly you fools" is still required as a mod?

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, Rob_J said:

but they keep flashing between clothed and not and are missing their penis which is disconcerting.

Even in my full load order (with many many mods) I don't see this. So it's got to be specific to an external mod I believe. In any case, SLS doesn't repeatedly try to make them naked. It's a once off. 

6 hours ago, Rob_J said:

Daydreaming kinda needs a bit of a drunk effect like soft focus vignette and weird colours  

true enough.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

trying to chase down why .597/.598/.599 is super unstable in SE (I dont have the @nomkaz magic touch) have found some misplaced texture paths.

The BYOH aradia is textures\architecture\farmhouse\Mushroom03Ara.dds

Should be               textures\SL Survival\Aradia\architecture\farmhouse\Mushroom03Ara.dds

All 3 are the same.

Mmm. the byoh meshes/textures are unused iirc. You can probably delete them.

[Monoman1]

43 minutes ago, ttpt said:

Hey does this mean you integrated "fly you fools" into survival, or is it just getting pulled into the wheel and "fly you fools" is still required as a mod?

There's a version of it in the wheel. I guess whether you want to keep fly you fools, which is more automatic but also less controllable, is up to you really. 

Personally I'll be removing fly you fools from my full profile. 

[Monoman1]

9 hours ago, Moth Seraph said:

I honestly don't know if this is the right thread to ask...

You're in the right place. Amp framework only handles all the node shrinking. It's SLS that handles if you can/can't equip something. 

9 hours ago, Moth Seraph said:

Is there a way to disable this restriction? My character doesn't cast magic from her hands.

Ah no. Not right now. That's not something I foresaw. 

Where are you casting magic from......? ?

9 hours ago, Moth Seraph said:

Perhaps it's something I can easily modify in xEdit?

Ah no it's scripted. 

[Monoman1]

14 hours ago, Dupline said:

Edit. Actually I'm not even sure it's realted. It still happens without any head tracking.

Yea I had a quick search through that mod's scripts and it does not use SetExpression() or ClearExpression() anywhere.