Sexlab Survival

[EagleFive]

Suggestion:

 

In the Misogyny options, it would be awesome if you added a "No Running" in towns/cities. If you keep getting caught, you get progressively stricter speed reducing items forced onto your character.

 

I'm requesting this because, will all the mods I have, towns/cities can be a very rough place for a female player character. You want to spend as little time there as possible. Slowing down to a walk/slight jog at max makes city visits pretty tense. So far I self-enforce this by only having my character run or sprint if I'm in combat stance when guards are around (weapon drawn restriction). This would also would make sense from a misogynistic view, as women shouldn't be running around causing a ruckus. Unless they're in a ponygirl race or something...

 

I would be extremely grateful if you considered adding this though.

[Lute]

19 hours ago, Gyra said:

Yeah, thanks. It was worth a shot. I can sympathize with you. I'll just keep searching, keep waiting, or see what I can do myself. Again, SLS is pretty great as it is already imo. 

Slaverun just isn't for me (except for the few playthroughs when I'm actively engaging with it), because I don't really like alterations to the world space and more scripts in the background that I don't interact with or care about, especially when I'm having other mods as well with my weak setup

FYI - the enforcer function for the original Slaverun was originally a standalone mod. Although this version is quite antiquated and only for Whiterun, the current version for the most recent enforcer script in Slaverun Reloaded still shares most of the same code. In theory, somebody could easily strip the code from either version and make a standalone version for the Skyrim world with a relatively small amount of effort.

[Monoman1]

11 hours ago, EagleFive said:

Suggestion:

 

In the Misogyny options, it would be awesome if you added a "No Running" in towns/cities. If you keep getting caught, you get progressively stricter speed reducing items forced onto your character.

 

I'm requesting this because, will all the mods I have, towns/cities can be a very rough place for a female player character. You want to spend as little time there as possible. Slowing down to a walk/slight jog at max makes city visits pretty tense. So far I self-enforce this by only having my character run or sprint if I'm in combat stance when guards are around (weapon drawn restriction). This would also would make sense from a misogynistic view, as women shouldn't be running around causing a ruckus. Unless they're in a ponygirl race or something...

 

I would be extremely grateful if you considered adding this though.

The problem with 'no running in town' is that it would HAVE to be based on speedmult. Walking at 50 (or even less is possible) speedmult is very, very different to walking at 100 speedmult. Being forced to walk at 50 speedmult would be absolute torture in my book. 

[Lupine00]

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The problem with 'no running in town' is that it would HAVE to be based on speedmult.

Maybe not. I think most players understand the difference between the walk, run and sprint states.

While speedmult may make a mockery of these, the intended situation can be inferred without having to look at speedmult itself, which is an unreliable guide.

 

i.e. if the PC is wearing speed limiting devices (hobble dress, slave boots, or other items we know the impact of) it's possible to determine that the PC is not moving at a speed that might offend a guard. Similarly for crawling, it can reliably be identified by one of a handful of magic effects on the player.

 

If the PC is not limited in that way, and is not over-encumbered, and is in a run-state, or a sprint-state, then they can reasonably be judged eligible for punishment - assuming you think this sort of thing is worth punishing in the first place...

If the player wants to make themselves move at hyper-speed through SLD, even when walking, or something, then that's their business and we can reasonably pay no mind to it.

 

Probably, guards should not punish by adding slowing devices, because those are just annoying.

Making the player move really slowly is a replacement for gameplay for about ten minutes, and then it's just wasting your time.

Personally, I don't have the hours to waste walking around Skyrim at a snail's pace. Slowdowns are fun for a brief time, unacceptable after that.

Some quests in Laura's Bondage Shop acknowledge this, but I originally made SLD with the express intent of fixing this poor design decision in mods.

Now you can install SLD and fix it yourself too.

 

(You can see the row I had with K* about this if you look back in the DD forums. I was given ever-shifting excuses as to why replacing slow-walk with something else was wrong. I replaced it, and I was happy with the results).

[MellowDrama]

hate to bother everyone with this but I figured everyone here would have it so...

I need apachii hair for slaverun but my acc got banned from the falsely banned by nexus and the appeal has lasted for 2 weeks now

so can someone either send me that file?

dropbox, mega whatever is best for you.

thanks.

(cant make a new a new acc btw)

[Dank_Jedi]

Okay so i tried again, without any luck, to solve the issue with the ctd near riverwood that i reported in post #6163 at page #247

 

On 6/11/2020 at 2:57 PM, Monoman1 said:

There isn't a whole lot going on in riverwood from SLS. There's a couple of guys patrolling and some patrol markers. You can try setting enforcer spawns to zero and see what happens. 

I tried without the enforcer spawn and i couldn't seem to reproduce the ctd, except for the first time. I tried again after the ctd for more than 60 tries and no ctd. I retried again by loading the save before i added sexlab survival, i set the enforcer spawn to 0 and went to riverwood. It didn't ctd but the enforcer were still there, but despawned when i was around the same spot on the bridge that causes me to ctd. So i'm guessing that it crashed the first time because the enforcer were still there and they despawn when i approach riverwood for the first time after setting enforcer spawn to 0 in the mcm.

 

I tried again by uninstalling enb and every single mod except for the unofficial patch and the required mods for sl survival and it's requirements and it still ctds.

 

I even tried to remove my skyrim folder in my documents and uninstalling and reinstalling the game and i still got the issue, i don't know what to try anymore aside from reinstalling windows.

[NoppaiKohai]

Any chance of adding some options like the Dragonborn always being bound and gagged and blindfolded in town since the guards don't trust such a dumb person with so much power to be running around free? Perhaps also with some "no clothes" thrown in even with a licence just cuz

 

It seems like the functionality is already partly there, I angered the guards somehow or another and they yoke me as soon as I walk into town and will gag me too, but I think that's more just a punishment for something I did that made them mad and it's probably only for a set time

[Ticir57]

Hey, i got an issue where the escort you're given when caught without one is invisible. I can see their sword, but not them. What's the deal? I'm not missing any requirements.

[Nazzzgul666]

I read the detailed descriptions and i'm wondering... are there any mods adding trolls, be it hostile or not? Especially more than one in one location? I've read something about having an animation for sucking off two trolls is recommended and i couldn't name a single location in Skyrim i could actually encounter two that aren't busy killing each other.

[Dovahbear91]

Just a quick question since I think its this mod thats causing it. My characters arousal is permanently set to 100. Im using SLSO and sexlab Shrines so my lewdness and perversion are going down. But it still stays at 100. In SLA my exposure is of course high but nothing that would prevent my character from ever being able to calm down. MY PC was sent to the kennel at one point and I think it all started there. Is this something to do with creature corruption or cum addiction?

 

PS I also tried waiting a few days in areas without npcs after using a shrine to see if my character would chill but unfortunalty no. Also changing the stats in SLA doesnt do anything. Open to suggestions 

[Nazzzgul666]

No idea if it's settings, load order, wrong version, missing patch... i noticed 2 things: 

1. I'm not asked if i want to spit or swallow even during consensual blowjobs. Might be because hungry? Not addicted, though.
2. Blowjobs don't reduce hunger. I'm playing with RND 1.93. Not when raped, not when fondling creatures, not when consensual otherwise. 

Any ideas?

What does work is that cum is added to anal value of FHU. Is there maybe the problem? 

*Edit: I'm an idiot, forgot to check seperate orgasms in SL.

[ralchemilla]

is there a fix for whiterun kennel i may have missed out? i noticed i ctd rather quickly upon entering, looking through the esp file with ssedit, i saw no other conflicting cell that shared the same space with the kennel, i did notice the lighting was different from whiterun, while i was in the kennel briefly, using tfc, i 'flew' deeper into the kennel and noticed slaves were making love with puppies before i ctd ?


edit : i tried 'killall' and.. the ctd didn't happen, bodies were laying everywhere zbfslaves ?__? (could it be an zazanimationpack version issue?)

[Lupine00]

9 hours ago, ralchemilla said:

i 'flew' deeper into the kennel and noticed slaves were making love with puppies before i ctd

What?

Last I was in there, there were no humans other than me, just an assortment of beasts.

 

Maybe it's been changed since I last used it, but is something else messing with your kennel dynamically?

[ralchemilla]

@Lupine00 desperate humans >:3 i tried resurrecting a dog, and i ctd too.. after 'kill all' command ; ;

how should i place Sexlab Survival in my load order, currently its at the bottom. with all the requirements added, are there other sexlab related mods that are not compatible with Sexlab Survival?

[Nazzzgul666]

15 hours ago, ralchemilla said:

is there a fix for whiterun kennel i may have missed out? i noticed i ctd rather quickly upon entering, looking through the esp file with ssedit, i saw no other conflicting cell that shared the same space with the kennel, i did notice the lighting was different from whiterun, while i was in the kennel briefly, using tfc, i 'flew' deeper into the kennel and noticed slaves were making love with puppies before i ctd ?


edit : i tried 'killall' and.. the ctd didn't happen, bodies were laying everywhere zbfslaves ?__? (could it be an zazanimationpack version issue?)

I've played with the last version, without CTDs. Had humans, but... puppies? If you actually mean puppies instead of common dogs, my best guess would be that you have a mod messing with the vanilla dogs. I'm playing with ZAZ 8.0, for the records.

 

[ralchemilla]

@Nazzzgul666 ooo! they are common dogs, these are what i have for creature sex/animal love, do you have a similar set-up? i have Sexlab Survival SE placed lower in the load order.

[Nazzzgul666]

1 hour ago, ralchemilla said:

@Nazzzgul666 ooo! they are common dogs, these are what i have for creature sex/animal love, do you have a similar set-up? i have Sexlab Survival SE placed lower in the load order.

Overall.. i guess. I mean, i'm on LE so there are ovious differences. One thing i noticed is that you have creature framework additionally to MNC 12. At least in LE MNC includes CF. And i don't have immersive creatures, whatever that's worth.

[Monoman1]

On 6/19/2020 at 10:52 AM, Ticir57 said:

Hey, i got an issue where the escort you're given when caught without one is invisible. I can see their sword, but not them. What's the deal? I'm not missing any requirements.

You have a messed up follower mod. SLS does not provide any followers of it's own. It just gives you a mod added follower. Try tracking down what follower mod it is and fix/remove it.

On 6/19/2020 at 2:38 PM, Nazzzgul666 said:

I read the detailed descriptions and i'm wondering... are there any mods adding trolls, be it hostile or not? Especially more than one in one location? I've read something about having an animation for sucking off two trolls is recommended and i couldn't name a single location in Skyrim i could actually encounter two that aren't busy killing each other.

There was a 'Guard trolls' mod here on LL. Can't find it now for some reason...

One troll is enough.

On 6/21/2020 at 4:15 PM, Dovahbear91 said:

My characters arousal is permanently set to 100.

SLS does not set player arousal to my knowledge. Only rapists.

19 hours ago, ralchemilla said:

while i was in the kennel briefly, using tfc, i 'flew' deeper into the kennel and noticed slaves were making love with puppies before i ctd ?

This appears to be a problem only with SE. I don't know why. 

Try setting 'Slave Rape Min Interval' to -1 to disable it. Sounds like the girls being raped by the animals is causing it but this would sort of be outside the scope of SLS. 

In the kennel I think dogs are just dogs. Wolves are a copy of vanilla wolves so they're not hostile. And the girls are spawned from Zaz pack. 

Weird skeleton issues maybe?

10 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Last I was in there, there were no humans other than me, just an assortment of beasts.

You need zaz pack for them.

 

[Nazzzgul666]

@Monoman1 Not sure how busy you are with own plans, i do have a suggestion that would be a rather big thing in total (and circumstance some work you already did...) but... i'll post it and see what you think about it.

I kinda used marriage as an exploit for a cheap place to sleep, marrying Ysolda allows me to move into her house. And an amulet of Mara is much cheaper than buying my own house.
I have a few ideas how to deal with that. I think i never was married to a man, except for trying pet project but not very long, so my ideas are mostly be regarding for F/F marriage. Most work but my favorite version would be:

Normal marriage, normal spouse life for some time. After a while, though, your spouse becomes... annoyed. She's doing all the cooking, cleaning, even brings the money home in case of traders, (she has to pay the taxes for having a house in the city?)...you're just a lazy bum. She'll ask you to contribute something, both work and money. You can do that... (clicking on a broom in your inventory would start a brooming animation?) but if you don't do that regularly (once a week?) she'll become really angry and give you a choice:
Eviction from her house, or you do the work in a more humilating way. There is an old animation even in ZAZ 7.0 to clean with a broomstick up your butt, and i always thought it's unfortunate nobody uses it. For more tasks, Rohzima had a mod "Rohzimas immersive poses" or something like that on the Nexus, it's gone now and i didn't try but assume his package here should include these and several would fit well for some cleaning. Maybe with some DD added. 
As a possible... connection to DFC, she might demand to fuck your follower, costing him/her a life. 

For the money part... just paying it aside again i do have several ideas, possible to add one or all of them. One would be to go to the jarl and see if you can find a way to pay these taxes in a different way which could lead to all kinds of scenarios, otherways... she might start to invite people into her house and you're the entertainment of some kind. Be it simply serving them, say/do humilating things to straight prostitution. After some money was earned that way, she might... expand her house and place milking machines, either just outside or in a cellar or something like that. Whatever causes less conflicts, i guess?

Once these are there, you will need to go in there regularly so she can sell the milk (simple dialogue afterwards and stripping any milk you got in inventory should be fine, that way it doesn't matter if the economy part of MME is active). Your follower possibly as well, again costing him/her a life each time (or maybe minute?) and make your follower more pissed about it. When the milk is sold for a while... people might come on their own and ask for milk fresh from the source (alternative: guards come and ask where that milk comes from. The explanation might lead to demands from them as well.) Once more, both is possible.^^

If she hears rumors about you having sex with animals, she might organize some shows for that, and/or try if she can use you to breed horses she could sell, maybe with some experiments going wrong...

I do realize that's big enough to be a mod on it's own (or two)... possibly even with an explicit NPC & house for that marriage. Many of it could also be used for the simply knock feature, that imho so far is rather... well, i don't have simple slavery, mostly because i don't want to wake up and get into a completly different scenario, also don't have much mods installed that would serve as outcome. So it's rather boring.^^

Overall it would be an alternative towards pet project that i never liked that much because i don't want to be belted all the time... although for a while it might be intresting.
One alternative to abusing your follower as well, your spouse might... conspire with them against you. Like, if she finds out you (voluntarily?) sleep with others, your spouse might convince your follower to start an ownership deal regardless if you are in debt to them. Some cuckold stuff might be added as well, your spouse will only sleep with your follower now and force you to watch. 

If you're not up to add something like that i totally understand that, but hopefully you got some inspiration for smaller possible features.  If you'd want to add one or all of them and want some specific dialogues, feel free to pm me any time and i'll see what i can come up with. ❤️

*Edit: forgot to include the short version: Instead of normal marriage, you can tell people the truth from the beginning, that you're just looking for a place to sleep, from there either go through the vanilla marriage and make a deal with a limited version of above without getting annoyed, or even just leave the marriage part alone... and maybe get thrown into the kennel if you fail to succeed in some tasks? I do like the kennel idea in general, my main problem with it is that... when i start a new game, my chars are kind of innocent, and the kennel feels... too much. At least to go there voluntarily.

[Lupine00]

48 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

so my ideas are mostly be regarding for F/F marriage

The Nords voted, and the conservative base agreed that marriage is a sacred vow only between a man and a woman.

 

The atrocity of female-female marriage that you describe is as nonsensical as a woman with a penis, or a human who can shout like a dragon.

It could no more happen than a Dwemer artifact could speak with a human voice!

 

OK... Enough of that...

 

 

But it does seem "thematically appropriate" for SLS to punish you for attempting same-sex marriages, possibly, as an option.

Presumably, the clerics of Mara would not look favorably on this outlandish concept, and would simply refuse to sanctify it.

 

The idea of a female PC forced into a cold and loveless (possibly arranged) marriage with a man who sees her as a cum receptacle, cook and child minder, seems much like something the citizens of Skyrim would be fully in favor of, and consider a highly virtuous outcome.

 

The difference between that and @Nazzzgul666's idea is that there is no build-up, instead, from the very start you are effectively enslaved as some moronic NPC's property, legally unable to own any yourself, or act as a true citizen, due to the cruel caprice of chance that saw you born without a cock. As a result of that chance, you are not only physically and mentally unequal, but also socially on an entirely different plane. You may complain that your husband has his tongue up the Jarl's backside, but complain is all you can do. Try and actually do something, like leave town, or wear armor and presumably the moral police would conclude you'd simply gone mad...

 

The problem I see here is that Monoman probably has no interest at all in making what is a brutally ironic spin on an enslavement mod, whether it's for same-sex marriage, or for only the man+woman kind.

 

 

 

But something that might fit in with SLS, and not be an entire mod, or series of mods, to itself, would be for guards and other citizens to take a dim view of two women travelling together, even if it's just your appointed protector.

 

 

They could offer abuse, suggestive comments on how the two of you put on a show, or offer advice on how the two of you are well suited to open a brothel together, etc. Female NPCs might be particularly nervous around you, possibly even refusing to trade with you due to your disgusting reputation (which given that most SLS PC's are sucking troll dick, seems somewhat justified).

 

It seems ... feasible ... at least.

[Nazzzgul666]

14 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

The idea of a female PC forced into a cold and loveless (possibly arranged) marriage with a man who sees her as a cum receptacle, cook and child minder, seems much like something the citizens of Skyrim would be fully in favor of.

 

 

That was something else i was hoping for a long time now... i think i suggested it once somewhere to be married to that goat you have to look for after "A night to remember", and forced marriage in any ways would be something i'd be very much looking forward to. I can't come up with a reason how it would be related to this mod, though. I rather brought the marriage thing up here because it was afaik the only way to get around the sleeping thing Monoman didn't cover yet.  

A very plain and simple version would be: pay the texes to the Jarl/guards, or get evicted. I'm not sure how easy that would be, like... would it be enough to remove the key to your spouses house? An a bit more complicated but likely working option would be to find yourself in the kennel every time you try to sleep there after you failed to take care of taxes.

And the main reason i described it as F/F is that i literally don't know how male NPCs act if you get a vanilla marriage. Like... do they still cook for you? Otherwise, you're totally right and your attempt sounds more fitting in here. Doesn't mean i don't want that mod i described, though.

Although ofc at least some ideas could be used for the simply knock feature, which i think he said he wants to improve. 

[Monoman1]

Sorry folks but I've basically had zero interest in playing skyrim lately and by extension modding it seems like a waste of time. That might change. It might not. 

[Nazzzgul666]

4 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Sorry folks but I've basically had zero interest in playing skyrim lately and by extension modding it seems like a waste of time. That might change. It might not. 

That's really sad to hear, but i understand. I was gone for about a year before i came back just recently, and your mods and updates played a huge role in that decision. I hope you forgive me my very selfish wish that it will change, but i wish you all the fun you can get anyways! 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Sorry folks but I've basically had zero interest in playing skyrim lately and by extension modding it seems like a waste of time. That might change. It might not. 

Things are dire indeed when you can't even lure Monoman out with a parade of bikinis.

[Durante]

On 6/13/2020 at 3:44 PM, Monoman1 said:

Well look. If you get 4 reply options then you HAVE all the options. 

The wording is not exactly the same to throw you off and hopefully get it wrong. That's the point. The guy does tell you to 'sell it' (improvise)

If it bothers you you can turn that outcome off in the begging menu. 

I encountered the bug again.

NPC asks to degrade;

 

1.Stupid bitch

2.You're useless and need someone to look after

3. Dog knots

4. Love being gagged and plugged

 

Go to NPC.

1. Stupid bitch. Ok.

2.  3 options one of them is Dog knots OK

3. 3 options about filled womb, ass or all holes ????

4. Another one which I forgot, but was about sucking I think

 

I am not getting 4 reply options and never did for as long as I used the mod. Nor did I ever see the reply option of "gagged plugged" or "useless" once they started being requested.