Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

4 minutes ago, Vita2016 said:

I toggled off the option of wearing armor in mcm and turned off the license system but guards still approach and punish

What about the other options? Are they all off? They're all punishable in the same manner. 

[galgat]

Love the mod and the idea's.

 

1. The hobble dresses for me (note the for me) leave some to be desired during the dungeon sleeping bondage. (Mainly because of the weird look during animations.)

  I have removed them in the json. So there not a problem, but am wondering if removing them limits the amount of bondage items used.  (open straight jacket for me would be a better choice I think)

 

removed them like this I assume is okay

        "hobbleskirts" :
        [
        ],

[Lupine00]

32 minutes ago, galgat said:

1. The hobble dresses for me (note the for me) leave some to be desired during the dungeon sleeping bondage. (Mainly because of the weird look during animations.)

  I have removed them in the json. So there not a problem, but am wondering if removing them limits the amount of bondage items used.  (open straight jacket for me would be a better choice I think)

You mean in the kennel?

 

I suggested the alternative is to pick animations that are OK - there are a limited number of oral anims that would probably be tolerable.

Hobble-dresses (or as I had, straight-jacket with legs) don't work well for any sex animations.

 

If you check keywords properly, you should *never* play a vaginal or anal animation for a hobble-dress, because they are de-facto chastity.

(Except the ones that aren't and have no bottom).

 

I've rattled on about this issue on the DD forum at length.

Many modders don't know how to correctly determine what holes are open when using DD, or they simply don't care and think that the animation filter will sort it out. It won't.

 

The code to do this in SLD is far from trivial, and that was one of my complaints. It could have been trivial if there were appropriate keywords.

Instead we have to make multiple checks on belts to determine anal access, there are some plugs that are chastity, there are hobble dresses, suits without access, etc.

 

If - for example - you have a pear of anguish, or a pump plug, which cannot be removed, then how can somebody get their velvety penis in there?

 

Kimy and others appeared to agree with my assessment of what devices provided what chastity, but were not prepared to make a single change to make it easy to determine this from keywords.

 

I think as far as Kimy is concerned, if you fit a hobble dress, always fit a closed belt, and then it's simple... Sledgehammer ... meet my friend nut.

[galgat]

21 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

You mean in the kennel?

 

I suggested the alternative is to pick animations that are OK - there are a limited number of oral anims that would probably be tolerable.

Hobble-dresses (or as I had, straight-jacket with legs) don't work well for any sex animations.

 

If you check keywords properly, you should *never* play a vaginal or anal animation for a hobble-dress, because they are de-facto chastity.

(Except the ones that aren't and have no bottom).

 

I've rattled on about this issue on the DD forum at length.

Many modders don't know how to correctly determine what holes are open when using DD, or they simply don't care and think that the animation filter will sort it out. It won't.

 

The code to do this in SLD is far from trivial, and that was one of my complaints. It could have been trivial if there were appropriate keywords.

Instead we have to make multiple checks on belts to determine anal access, there are some plugs that are chastity, there are hobble dresses, suits without access, etc.

 

If - for example - you have a pear of anguish, or a pump plug, which cannot be removed, then how can somebody get their velvety penis in there?

 

Kimy and others appeared to agree with my assessment of what devices provided what chastity, but were not prepared to make a single change to make it easy to determine this from keywords.

 

I think as far as Kimy is concerned, if you fit a hobble dress, always fit a closed belt, and then it's simple... Sledgehammer ... meet my friend nut.

  The Hobble dresses for me, pretty much limit the animation to nothing but Oral, and even that needs to not be 69 oral.  there actually pretty useless for any type of sex act other than Oral, as best I can tell.

 

  I was only pointing out a minor personal problem I had with them.  Thinking maybe an MCM option to cull them could be handy. As to how I play my game or others play there's with limited animations or not was not even considered.  It was just a minor pet peeve I had. Nothing more. 

 

EDIT >>> maybe a couple of fetish sex acts as in hand job or foot are possible with the hobble dress

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, galgat said:

removed them like this I assume is okay

Emptying the list might work. I can't remember off-hand if the mod expects there to be something there so there could be some log spam. Probably won't break anything but....

 

RE the trouble around hobble skirts/jackets etc - I'm just not all that bothered tbh. In my mind these suits have zips in er.... strategic places that allow for bumpy fun time. Pet suits definitely should allow it but most animations look horrendous. Maybe down the road I'll add options but it's just not something that grabs my attention atm. 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, galgat said:

The Hobble dresses for me, pretty much limit the animation to nothing but Oral, and even that needs to not be 69 oral.  there actually pretty useless for any type of sex act other than Oral, as best I can tell.

My point was it's not just you. It's wrong in every sense.

 

Hobble dresses should never allow non-oral, and should have a filter on the oral animations so you only get ones that aren't 69, or kneeling with legs spread, etc.

Except for that one dress that has no bottom in it. It's obvious what that is for. The other hobble dresses clearly do not have "zips", nor do many real ones. If they did there'd be a double zip and a lock between the tags. There are plenty of RL hobble dresses with laces, but DD doesn't have much like that, though there are some generic sexy outfits in that style. If you're wearing an armbinder, obviously you can't undo the laces  

 

You could retexture them to have zips - though presumably in Skyrim the zip is a magical dwemer relic.

(Now there's a quest).

But it would still look bad playing the sex animation with them because they do not have an "unzipped" model or texture swap.

Something like that would be real fancy.

 

Probably, the best answer is to have one animation in DD that does hobble dress oral, with legs properly tight together, but we won't ever get that I should think.

It would have to interest an animator AND Kimy.

 

I think the animations there are have some amount of leg spread in the kneeling posture. Maybe there's something, but there are a lot less true oral only animations than one might wish.

[aspirine2]

 

 

12 hours ago, aspirine2 said:

will test it once i get home ..

WORKS THANKS.....may i ask about somthing in the comparability with Dark arena ??

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, aspirine2 said:

 

 

WORKS THANKS.....may i ask about somthing in the comparability with Dark arena ??

Of course.

Delzaron asked me something but I didn't understand.

[legraf]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Hobble dresses should never allow non-oral, and should have a filter on the oral animations so you only get ones that aren't 69, or kneeling with legs spread, etc.

Except for that one dress that has no bottom in it. It's obvious what that is for.

(cough, cough) SWYM reports all hobble dresses as blocking vaginal and anal.  Do you happen to know the name of the bottomless one, so I can see about making an exception?  Is it from DDe, do you know?

[Tara26]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I see. So you have that vegetable stall now... kind of, sorta but not exactly

That's perfectly fine. 

That needs to be coded in and I only generally do it if something actually needs to be upgraded, like say a quest restarted or something. Wasn't necessary this time around. 

This isn't licence related. It's a 'Guard Behaviour' punishment. Check the misogyny & inequality menu. 

 

My hero!

[aspirine2]

8 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Of course.

Delzaron asked me something but I didn't understand.

Dark arena mod is based on  health reaching 0 ..so pc or npc lose and sexlab animations run ...i used TIM console command and was able to get the note mod adds to the game about pc lost the fight ..but animations didn't start ...so i tried here and there until i figured i might disable the health options and pc health control ..but animations didn't start again ..so i disabled and uninstalled SLS ..and finaly the animations are running fast and smooth for dark arena but i lost your mod ..which ended i uninstalled dark arena and enabling SLS ..so if there is any chance to tell me what to do it would be great ...

 

many thanks in advance .

[Monoman1]

2 minutes ago, aspirine2 said:

Dark arena mod is based on  health reaching 0 ..so pc or npc lose and sexlab animations run ...i used TIM console command and was able to get the note mod adds to the game about pc lost the fight ..but animations didn't start ...so i tried here and there until i figured i might disable the health options and pc health control ..but animations didn't start again ..so i disabled and uninstalled SLS ..and finaly the animations are running fast and smooth for dark arena but i lost your mod ..which ended i uninstalled dark arena and enabling SLS ..so if there is any chance to tell me what to do it would be great ...

 

many thanks in advance .

Hmm. I don't have an answer right now. I don't use dark arena so I don't know how it works. I'll have to install it later and see what happens. 

But I would have thought 0HP is 0HP, buff or no buff.

[Lupine00]

4 hours ago, legraf said:

(cough, cough) SWYM reports all hobble dresses as blocking vaginal and anal.  Do you happen to know the name of the bottomless one, so I can see about making an exception?  Is it from DDe, do you know?

It was originally DCL only and got added into base DD in 4.2 I think.

It may be described as a maid dress. I'll update when my CK is open at the right mods.

I can't find it in DD, it still seems only to be in DCL.

 

The AA is dcur_redblack_latexdressAA XX0D5D1A

 

The model comes from nsfwmods - Skyrim L&R Collection - Black Red Latex Dress.

 

It's used by four different armor items in DCL.

 

It has weird DCL specific keywords on it, but acts like a hobble dress when you try to move.

However, it doesn't have conventional hobble-dress flags.

One version has DeviousSuit and DeviousGloves; I think that's the quest item from the Chloe quest.

The others aren't devious at all.

 

So, it acts like a hobble dress in scripting, in one quest, but isn't one. How ... consistent.

It's also part of an NPC outfit for the Dollmaker's slave.

[Lupine00]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I see. So you have that vegetable stall now... kind of, sorta but not exactly

Alas no.

The flower harvesting is highly limited. I can't go far and they don't respawn fast enough.

Also lacking abusive drunken husband mechanic.

[CynicalCore]

11 hours ago, Tenri said:

@CynicalCore

Yeah in that case for whatever reason it isn't unloading the gate. try this script. It should change the Toll box to recalculate the toll when you activate it to pay, I tried to make it respect the increased cost for Slaverun enslaved town and 'jobs' completed to reduce the cost of the toll. Haven't tested it at all but I expect it should work.

 

SLS TollBoxRecalculatesToll.7z 2.42 kB · 1 download

oh wow, thanks, gonna try it.

[Black714]

I Love this mods, Anyway...

Is that mods compatible with XAZ Prison Overhaul?

and can we chose what kind of devious device will equip into player? to Free a Toll Example Like (Belt and Plug, or Plus Collar)?

 

Thanks...

[cascen]

morning,can i use sls with spank that ass?

[Lupine00]

30 minutes ago, cascen said:

morning,can i use sls with spank that ass?

Definitely. Disable spank events in SLS, and STA will provide better ones. They are designed to cooperate.

[Lupine00]

After messing with ME, and then thinking about why my cum addiction isn't happening - I had a thought.

 

Animations that do not open the mouth...

 

What if we had a key to open the mouth manually in case it doesn't happen automatically?

 

I will bet that ME has an overlay animation to do exactly that.

 

Even if you didn't have one, SLS could simply accept the player's intent to consume cum, and if the animation is oral, say "OK, mouth is open despite what the animation says".

 

It solves some problems. But ... hotkeys.

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Black714 said:

Is that mods compatible with XAZ Prison Overhaul?

Yes.

3 hours ago, Black714 said:

and can we chose what kind of devious device will equip into player? to Free a Toll Example Like (Belt and Plug, or Plus Collar)?

Sort of. But it involved a bit of work on your part. 

See post #2 in this topic 'Customizing Device List'

In general SLS doesn't do chastity though. As I find long term chastity to be a bit annoying. Might use it in the future in some limited capacity but not right now. Most of the devices SLS uses are mostly cosmetic - piercings, cuffs, collar, corset, boots, gloves. Gags are probably the 'hardest' device SLS uses on a regular basis. 

1 hour ago, cascen said:

morning,can i use sls with spank that ass?

Should probably check who the mod author is.

Spoiler

It's me

So yes. It's compatible. It's recommended even for extra humiliation. SLS has a proximity spank feature that hooks into STA. 

 

[cascen]

35 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

After messing with ME, and then thinking about why my cum addiction isn't happening - I had a thought.

 

Animations that do not open the mouth...

 

What if we had a key to open the mouth manually in case it doesn't happen automatically?

 

I will bet that ME has an overlay animation to do exactly that.

 

Even if you didn't have one, SLS could simply accept the player's intent to consume cum, and if the animation is oral, say "OK, mouth is open despite what the animation says".

 

It solves some problems. But ... hotkeys.

hey!i found an momentarily solution for this issue i had noticed it to,using billy slal choose the oral billy instead leito 4 example those have always mouth opened ^^sry my eng is really nasty

[Monoman1]

42 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

What if we had a key to open the mouth manually in case it doesn't happen automatically?

Maybe. But I'd bet the farm someone will come in here and say "Hey, I pressed the mouth open key during sex and swallowed cum even though the guys dick wasn't in my mouth"

I realize that they shouldn't really be pressing the key in this instance but still

42 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I will bet that ME has an overlay animation to do exactly that

How does that work?

Debug.SendAnimationEvent() ?

[Lupine00]

16 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

How does that work?

Debug.SendAnimationEvent() ?

akActor.PlayIdle(idleToPlay) ... I think

You have to get the Idle form.

 

It then applies until something resets it, typically an animation for which that override is not permitted.

It's a while since I did animations, so I may be wrong.

[Lupine00]

35 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Maybe. But I'd bet the farm someone will come in here and say "Hey, I pressed the mouth open key during sex and swallowed cum even though the guys dick wasn't in my mouth"

They probably would, but if you cater to that level of genius I'm not sure where you end up.

[Operand]

Wow.. must I say, after latest updates (those where guards now don't ignore licence violations anymore) it became pretty hardcore ? 

 

Two things I notices:

 

• Guard "warning" dialogues are happening a bit too fast in succession. I.e. "first warning" dialogue, then NPC does 2-3 steps away and there's immediately "second warning" dialogue with the penalties where there wasn't too much time to react. Maybe it should be increased at least a bit?
• Guard "warning" dialogues are occurring during scenes. For example, while being arrested via Prisons Overhaul. Not too big of a problem, but might mess up the scene because of equipping of DD in some cases

 

Anyway, latest updates are a blast, now bad girls clearly get for their misbehavior ?