Fallout 4 Discussion Thread

[Kaldor Draigo]

wtf is this shit? my achievements are turned off when i have mods inatalled? wtgdf?

[Halstrom]

wtf is this shit? my achievements are turned off when i have mods inatalled? wtgdf?

They've always been turned off as far as I know, I'm pretty sure it was the same in FONV too, Achievements don't mean anything if a game is modded as they can be cheated so easily.

How valuable would money be if you could just print $100 notes on any printer or draw them on a bit of paper?

 

"I have the "I killed 100 Deathclaws in 5 seconds Achievement"

"How did you get it?"

"I used a mod to spawn 300 Deathclaws on a 5000 damage Nukamine" (visually spectatular laggy version)

or

"I just used a mod to bump my games Deathclaw kill counter by 300 whenever I started a saved game" (uber boring cheat)

[Jerbsinator]

wtf is this shit? my achievements are turned off when i have mods inatalled? wtgdf?

 

You can get by this with F4SE and http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12465/?

 

Keep in mind that F4SE is outdated right now because of new patch so until it's updated (I'm sure it will be soon) this won't work.

[RitualClarity]

 

wtf is this shit? my achievements are turned off when i have mods inatalled? wtgdf?

 

You can get by this with F4SE and http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12465/?

 

Keep in mind that F4SE is outdated right now because of new patch so until it's updated (I'm sure it will be soon) this won't work.

 

 

Yea... WTF.. I can't play the game because of a 46mb update. A 46MB UPDATE!!!! to fix the Nuka Rail problem. As far as I have read.. this is for ONE PROBLEM. I waited like I knew I had to for the day one or so Patch.

 

I was in Nuka town killing and taking names. I unlocked Steam for another game to update and Steam jumped this one up first..   It was so small that it was downloaded before I could click the X to stop it. Now it is the Weekend and I have to wait for the F4SE team to update the script extender.

 

I haven't played it for months and wanted to go through the new DLC this weekend.

 

So now i find people are fixing their issue (since most mod the game) by pirating parts of the game (the EXE) and sending the previous version of the game's EXE so people can play the game they legitimately bought. Script extenders have been around for many previous releases. Can't Besthesda give them a bone and work a bit with them? So that when a patch is released they have a chance to have the update (beta) already available?

 

If this is the case... then come on F4Se team... Everybody relies on your team's awesomeness to make it possible to actually play the game.

[dinomagick]

FO4 is fun, but modding is like herding CATS!!!, Bethesda really must have put the 'screws' to the modding community with this game.

 

I find myself replaying Skyrim.... and now that Skyrim SE is out... omg!  64bit and mods are already cranking out... 

 

Maybe I kind of understand why FO4 modding is slow....

 

Even now, after blasting my way through Railroad pansies and then throw my lunch up on more "Radiant Questing" being rammed down my throat by Preston, I feel like i'm being used like a Raider Chick at a Dog Fight. 

 

Seriously....  Modding for Fallout 4 must be very tedious.   Most of the mods out there are body presets, outfits for females and small graphics updates.    I'm not sure if F4SE will be really fast and coming, but I bet the SKSE for Special Edition will.  SKSE-SE??   Yeah, and I am finding that is going to be more fun again.  

 

So, I have decided to move FO4 to the "Wait until it is patched, Unfucked and mods start coming out for it." Category. (i.e. Delete from computer)

 

I am sure going to need the space on my SSD for Skyrim-SE....

 

 

[garg]

I recently watched this 

 

And it got me thinking. 

 

Fallout 4 was not well recieved, and i think that video points out the reason behind it.

 

Fallout have been a world-fantasy, where the focus is on the world and you can play a character in that, usually whatever character you like to play. So the game isnt REALLY about you, directly at least.

 

But in fallout 4, its really hammered in that you are someone spesific, and the character concept is heavily weaved into the game design, meaning that its more of a personal-fantasy. 

 

So this break from expectations we had to the game, might be one very good reason why it was poorly recieved. 

 

PS: yes, it isnt the only reasons, but a very good one.

Your post got me remembering this : http://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/

[Ark of Truth]

I am beginning to think Bethesda is trying to deliberately screw the modding community over with all these modded rules and all. Once again I cannot play Fallout 4 because F4SE no longer works due to an update and I can't load my save as it relies on F4SE.

 

Think about it? How many of us would not of brought the game if we couldn't mod it to get the bugs out?

[Halstrom]

I am beginning to think Bethesda is trying to deliberately screw the modding community over with all these modded rules and all. Once again I cannot play Fallout 4 because F4SE no longer works due to an update and I can't load my save as it relies on F4SE.

 

Think about it? How many of us would not of brought the game if we couldn't mod it to get the bugs out?

If we couldn't mod it we wouldn't need F4SE so wouldn't have a problem with it requiring updating, I don't use F4SE myself or any mods requiring it. It hasn't even got a list of functions yet, I'm yet to work out exactly what it does at all.

Personally I found my game pretty much bug free until I started installing mods

And odds are with no more DLC this could be the last update ever anyway, they probably only got one guy working on FO4 nowdays if that.

[Ernest Lemmingway]

 

I recently watched this 

 

And it got me thinking. 

 

Fallout 4 was not well recieved, and i think that video points out the reason behind it.

 

Fallout have been a world-fantasy, where the focus is on the world and you can play a character in that, usually whatever character you like to play. So the game isnt REALLY about you, directly at least.

 

But in fallout 4, its really hammered in that you are someone spesific, and the character concept is heavily weaved into the game design, meaning that its more of a personal-fantasy. 

 

So this break from expectations we had to the game, might be one very good reason why it was poorly recieved. 

 

PS: yes, it isnt the only reasons, but a very good one.

Your post got me remembering this : http://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/

 

 

Look at the date that article was posted. FO4 had a great initial launch, but what about since then? How is it doing (nearly) a year later?

[Ark of Truth]

 

I am beginning to think Bethesda is trying to deliberately screw the modding community over with all these modded rules and all. Once again I cannot play Fallout 4 because F4SE no longer works due to an update and I can't load my save as it relies on F4SE.

 

Think about it? How many of us would not of brought the game if we couldn't mod it to get the bugs out?

If we couldn't mod it we wouldn't need F4SE so wouldn't have a problem with it requiring updating, I don't use F4SE myself or any mods requiring it. It hasn't even got a list of functions yet, I'm yet to work out exactly what it does at all.

Personally I found my game pretty much bug free until I started installing mods

And odds are with no more DLC this could be the last update ever anyway, they probably only got one guy working on FO4 nowdays if that.

 

 

Sadly the mod to re-enable achievements uses it

[Benmc20]

Not only this one but also :

- Looksmenu

- CustomControlMaps (for a foreign player like myself)

- Place Anywhere

- ESP explorer (I don't use this one personally)

And so on ...

[Halstrom]

Sadly the mod to re-enable achievements uses it

Personally I never found the "collect achievements" thing interesting in the slightest, particularly if people are using mods to get them. Didn't even notice it missing for quite a while.

 

Someone should write a mod to get all achievements in a minute of gameplay for the people who have finished FO4 in 60 hours and seen it all

[Ark of Truth]

 

Sadly the mod to re-enable achievements uses it

Personally I never found the "collect achievements" thing interesting in the slightest, particularly if people are using mods to get them. Didn't even notice it missing for quite a while.

 

Someone should write a mod to get all achievements in a minute of gameplay for the people who have finished FO4 in 60 hours and seen it all

 

 

And its for that reason alone they most likely did it so that mods disable themselves. I have noticed now all Fallout 4 achievements are now listed as hidden ones until you unlock them   Bethesda is becoming annoying as of late. 

[VonHelton]

As long as I have my boob n butt mods, lighting, weather, and ENB? I'm a happy girl.

 

You left out SEX??!!

 

[Henry8t]

There are so many containers ,boxes and trailers which you can't loot.Its a bit annoying(there are mods for that ,i know).If we only could

make use of explosives to blow the doors open,/make  a hole then check whats inside,would be so nice.(In vanilla game ,without the need for mods)

Should be in there right from the start along with the ability to climb over  a  Damn Wall or  a  Fence.

Also,how easy it is to find Power Armor with Fusion Core in it.I wasn't even specificially looking for them...Well, at least some are locked away.

 

[Zor2k13]

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

[Halstrom]

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

Well if a modder lets a fake internet lawyer convince them to never mod again they probably haven't got the determination to continue modding anyway.

[yamayashi]

any cbbe hdt out yet?

[Kriegera]

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

Well if a modder lets a fake internet lawyer convince them to never mod again they probably haven't got the determination to continue modding anyway.

 

 

It gets way funnier when you realize that particular modder is a hardcore anarchist/socialist who pretty regularly praises Stalin but apparently mean words on the internet are too much. 

[ralfetas]

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

 

People will say "fuk it" if the game don't are fun anymore, is not cool to make a mod and keep to yourself, just in some rare cases, and even on this cases you just put anywhere and forget it, like i made with all my mass effect mods, after some time i see a texture i made for Ashley in some mod portal, what i do? Nothing, i was glad that someone makes good use of it and have the patience to publish it.

 

I read the text, don't know why to be honest, this kind of drama shows every time, for me this sounds just like a excuse to "i don't like it anymore", the all point is a joke.

 

Fact is, there is a lot of newbies and even old time modders that just don't have a life, or at least a good life, them they create something and think that they should be praised because of that, are rude to users, do not allow anyone use their stuff etc... In the end of the day, is just a game and a hobby.

[DigitalP]

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

 In the end of the day, is just a game and a hobby.

 

 

And this is what people lose site of. 

 

There are mods out there that I simply refuse to download irrespective of how good they are because of the attitude that comes across. Especially by those authors who think they are doing everyone a favour. 

 

Personally I think the biggest problem with Nexus is that there is an option to donate money to authors. Whilst it's not paid modding in the truest sense you can notice the effect it has on the modding community by the attitudes expressed in many mod descriptions. 

 

It's a game. Modding is a hobby not a job...........Relax, enjoy.........kill shit with pipe wrenches whilst taking physco. 

[ralfetas]

 

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

 In the end of the day, is just a game and a hobby.

 

 

And this is what people lose site of. 

 

There are mods out there that I simply refuse to download irrespective of how good they are because of the attitude that comes across. Especially by those authors who think they are doing everyone a favour. 

 

Personally I think the biggest problem with Nexus is that there is an option to donate money to authors. Whilst it's not paid modding in the truest sense you can notice the effect it has on the modding community by the attitudes expressed in many mod descriptions. 

 

It's a game. Modding is a hobby not a job...........Relax, enjoy.........kill shit with pipe wrenches whilst taking physco. 

 

 

I agreed with the part that some authors think are making a favor, and make sure to be rude with users, i don't even have words to describe what i think about this, block the users, ignore them, but don't need to be rude.

But for the donation, my mods have donation option, but because i spend money on softwares to make the stuff i do, so i think is a nice way to share the expenses, and believe, is far from being any sort of income the donations, i don't believe anyone would make a mod thinking on money, and if they would, would be better to make a patron patreon don't remember the name.

[DigitalP]

 

 

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

 In the end of the day, is just a game and a hobby.

 

 

And this is what people lose site of. 

 

There are mods out there that I simply refuse to download irrespective of how good they are because of the attitude that comes across. Especially by those authors who think they are doing everyone a favour. 

 

Personally I think the biggest problem with Nexus is that there is an option to donate money to authors. Whilst it's not paid modding in the truest sense you can notice the effect it has on the modding community by the attitudes expressed in many mod descriptions. 

 

It's a game. Modding is a hobby not a job...........Relax, enjoy.........kill shit with pipe wrenches whilst taking physco. 

 

 

I agreed with the part that some authors think are making a favor, and make sure to be rude with users, i don't even have words to describe what i think about this, block the users, ignore them, but don't need to be rude.

But for the donation, my mods have donation option, but because i spend money on softwares to make the stuff i do, so i think is a nice way to share the expenses, and believe, is far from being any sort of income the donations, i don't believe anyone would make a mod thinking on money, and if they would, would be better to make a patron patreon don't remember the name.

 

 

Yeah I don't know man. For you. Yeah I can understand it. But there is a number of authors who's motives are not exactly because it's a "hobby" This is why I also dislike the endorsments/rating system on Nexus. 

 

I'm also a cynical fuck and being a professional artist I guess I'm just seeing the same type of shit that I see in my profession as I do on Nexus.

[Love Space]

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

Well if a modder lets a fake internet lawyer convince them to never mod again they probably haven't got the determination to continue modding anyway.

 

It seems more like he stopped modding cause he felt harrassed (and likely happened to him a lot) and also that Nexus moderator seems too paranoid to assume who's pirating and who's not and bans them without questioning.

[ralfetas]

 

 

 

 

I have been wondering why modding is getting slower for fallout 4 and then I found this today http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/350/?

 

Looks kinda grey but if more people just say "fuk it" then where does that leave fallout 4 modding?

 In the end of the day, is just a game and a hobby.

 

 

And this is what people lose site of. 

 

There are mods out there that I simply refuse to download irrespective of how good they are because of the attitude that comes across. Especially by those authors who think they are doing everyone a favour. 

 

Personally I think the biggest problem with Nexus is that there is an option to donate money to authors. Whilst it's not paid modding in the truest sense you can notice the effect it has on the modding community by the attitudes expressed in many mod descriptions. 

 

It's a game. Modding is a hobby not a job...........Relax, enjoy.........kill shit with pipe wrenches whilst taking physco. 

 

 

I agreed with the part that some authors think are making a favor, and make sure to be rude with users, i don't even have words to describe what i think about this, block the users, ignore them, but don't need to be rude.

But for the donation, my mods have donation option, but because i spend money on softwares to make the stuff i do, so i think is a nice way to share the expenses, and believe, is far from being any sort of income the donations, i don't believe anyone would make a mod thinking on money, and if they would, would be better to make a patron patreon don't remember the name.

 

 

Yeah I don't know man. For you. Yeah I can understand it. But there is a number of authors who's motives are not exactly because it's a "hobby" This is why I also dislike the endorsments/rating system on Nexus. 

 

I'm also a cynical fuck and being a professional artist I guess I'm just seeing the same type of shit that I see in my profession as I do on Nexus.

 

 

This is a huge problem in my area, i hire freelancer to make art and stuff all the time, and the first thing i try make clear, is that it's a job, work, not hobby or art, there is a huge difference, and if they want to make art, they are in the wrong business.

 

But to be honest, i don't see a problem with payed mods, as long as the one making the mod don't bitch anyone because this and make all their assets, if the guy/girl want to spend hours making something to sell, i think is on his right, no one needs to pay for anything, but the problem with this IMO, is that you take someone who make mods for hobby and them they want to get a pro seal to make some money, but without being a pro, them we have that disaster payed mod experience, were people was charging for something that anyone with little skills could make in no time, and poor support from the authors.

 

But maybe i am too much out of the box, i would never charge for a mod, but just because i have my real life, family, job etc... and don't want to be bound to support something.