ObjectiveKraken Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 My characters body goes invisible when i start an alternative start for this mod (body invisible, suit is not). Anyone know a fix? (edit 1) i forgot to add: the head and hair is visible, torso and legs are gone.
Reesewow Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, ObjectiveKraken said: My characters body goes invisible when i start an alternative start for this mod (body invisible, suit is not). Anyone know a fix? (edit 1) i forgot to add: the head and hair is visible, torso and legs are gone. Run bodyslide
animeace Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Hi All. I either have a mod conflict I can't resolve (probably) or a possible bug to report (unlikely). I have been having a constant CTD near Morthal. In my game I have never been to morthal yet, but heading there by foot from multiple angles causes a crash when I get close as does travel directly by cart. full load order below: Spoiler Load order as sorted by loot and loot shows no 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 8 8 Heels Sound.esm 9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm 10 a Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 11 b SexLab.esm 12 c SexLabAroused.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 14 e DreadPrison.esm 15 f ZaZAnimationPack.esm 16 10 Heretical Resources.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 19 13 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp 20 14 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp 21 15 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp 22 16 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp 23 17 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp 24 18 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp 25 19 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp 26 1a Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp 27 1b Shout Like a Virgin.esp 28 1c Map Markers.esp 29 1d Proper Aiming.esp 30 1e SkyUI.esp 31 1f LeatherHarness - Bombshell.esp 32 20 Gatti14Yumiko.esp 33 21 AutoHarvest2.esp 34 22 RaceMenu.esp 35 23 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 36 24 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 37 25 SkyrimConfigMenu.esp 38 26 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 39 27 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 40 28 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 41 29 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 42 2a AnubAnimObj.esp 43 2b Aradia Devious Expansion.esp 44 2c NIOVHH.esp 45 2d aradia_latex.esp 46 2e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 47 2f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 48 30 SOS Equipable Schlong.esp 49 31 UIExtensions.esp 50 32 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 51 33 XPMSE.esp 52 34 FNISSexyMove.esp 53 35 SexLab_Solutions.esp 54 36 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 55 37 ASX_Spells.esp 56 38 VivisCockcage.esp 57 39 Angeli Devious Expansion.esp 58 3a Devious Devices - Equip.esp 59 3b VivisCockCage Addon for DD.esp 60 3c Captured Dreams.esp 61 3d SMIM-Merged-All.esp 62 3e TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 63 3f FNIS.esp 64 40 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 65 41 Remodeled Armor.esp 66 42 FNISspells.esp 67 43 East Reach House.esp 68 44 Stynja.esp 69 45 Linked Home Chests.esp 70 46 Sailor Moon Cosplay.esp 71 47 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 72 48 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 73 49 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp I started a brand new game in case I had corrupted a save somehow and rushed to morthal by foot and cart and had the exact same issues, so I started removing some mods till I found cured loot was a culprit. Specifically uninstalling cured loot, or disabling Deviously Cursed Loot.esp and Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp immediately and completely resolves the CTD issue. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling cursed loot and starting a new game again to make sure I chose all the right install settings, but getting near Morthal still causes a CTD with cursed loot active. I'm not aware that any of the other mods affect anything near morthal but if anyone spots something in my list that makes changes near there or that could otherwise cause a mod conflict I'd appreciate knowing.
autumnBD Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Lupine00 said: A load order might help too. But, try this: Get your game working with sexlab and aroused. No Zap, no DD, no DCL. Add Zap. Game still working? Then add the three DD mods, and ensure it's still working. Then add DCL. If that was your entire mod list, you're missing USLEEP, though it's almost certainly not the cause of your problem. Thanks, that helped. However, It's still not working entirely. Most restraints other than head restraints don't load, and cause my torso (or hands in some cases) to become invisible. I saw someone mention running bodyslide (which is installed), but I cant figure out how. My mods are the same as last time.
Thegoodman Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Bondagejunkie232312 said: Thanks, that helped. However, It's still not working entirely. Most restraints other than head restraints don't load, and cause my torso (or hands in some cases) to become invisible. I saw someone mention running bodyslide (which is installed), but I cant figure out how. My mods are the same as last time. Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support.
Lowezar Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Thegoodman said: Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support. This question has been asked by 2 people already on the same page... And keeps getting asked 3-5 times a week. I wonder if there should be a sort of troubleshooting FAQ on this mod even though you would've avoided most of these issues by just following the FAQs on every dependency you installed...
centurian Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 17/02/2018 at 6:54 AM, Reesewow said: Double check Fuz Roh Doh is installed properly? That mod is the silent voice dialogue mod required by most non-voiced mods. And check your in-game settings and make sure subtitles are all turned on. Yep - that worked - thanks a lot. Re-installed them all in the order on Page 1. Pretty sure I did that before, so not sure why it worked this time around. But I was probably getting all caught up in why the subtitles were not appearing (they were disabled in settings) But thanks again - I'm back up and running now. Back to DCL
autumnBD Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Thegoodman said: Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support. Thank you so much I spent hours trying to get this working and I redid all the mods very carefully, then I looked back at your comment and realized I had to run batch build and all my problems went away.
Nymra Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 Hey, might be I am just incapable, but I have the following problem: I enabled Rape I enabled Combat Surrender I have Defeat installed but not enabled in MCM I set "Hardcore" in Combat Rape Outcomes to false I set all probabilities for combat outcome to 0 I still experience the following: - Surrender/forced Surrender (health, disarm etc.) - Fade to black - dropped in wilderness There is no rape happening at all before the fade to black. I can do what I want. Enable hardcore or disable, the only thing that I can change is the outcomes (if I set Simple Slavery to 100 its that, but still without rape scene before). What am I doing wrong? Or is this working as intended?
LazyBoot Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Lowezar said: 10 hours ago, Thegoodman said: Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support. This question has been asked by 2 people already on the same page... And keeps getting asked 3-5 times a week. I wonder if there should be a sort of troubleshooting FAQ on this mod even though you would've avoided most of these issues by just following the FAQs on every dependency you installed... You mean something like https://www.loverslab.com/topic/71481-tutorial-building-dd-items-in-bodyslide-nmmmo/ ?
DonQuiWho Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Nymra said: Hey, might be I am just incapable, but I have the following problem: I enabled Rape I enabled Combat Surrender I have Defeat installed but not enabled in MCM I set "Hardcore" in Combat Rape Outcomes to false I set all probabilities for combat outcome to 0 I still experience the following: - Surrender/forced Surrender (health, disarm etc.) - Fade to black - dropped in wilderness There is no rape happening at all before the fade to black. I can do what I want. Enable hardcore or disable, the only thing that I can change is the outcomes (if I set Simple Slavery to 100 its that, but still without rape scene before). What am I doing wrong? Or is this working as intended? The 'Dump in the Wilderness' thing (NOT the Private Needs version) may well be a bug, as may the rest of your issue. I've posted up thread on it before. Kimy said that she would check the code and I'm happy to take her at her word But the more people saying that they too are inexplicably finding their PC being wound up in the wilds for no apparently good reason might persuade her that in a one way street, if all the other cars are going in the other direction, they really may be right
DonQuiWho Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 3:42 AM, valcon767 said: ok i have some information that may be useful for you (not sure) 1 - glowing mushrooms do regrow over time provided the cave/dungeon you picked them in will respawn (they may in other spots too not sure there), but it may require the cave/dungeon to fully respawn (usually 30 days if it was totally cleared). you can grow them in Hearthfires planters. some alchemy shops seem to be better than others to buy them at (i find Markarth and Morthal my best bets usually). glowing mushroom grow in lots of caves and dungeons (pretty much any cave or dungeon that can have falmer or chaurus in them, and more) 2 bandit lairs i can confirm they regrow in are in Falkreath - Forgotten Cave (possible radiant location in Thane of Falkreath quest), and the bottom half of the Knifepoint Ridge Mine (accessed during the Boethiah daedric quest and some other mods also open the area all the time) 2 - you may want to check if you have any mods that affect how things grow and are picked for alchemy ingreidents (FMEA is one that can affect this but it should not stop them regrowing). not sure if it is a bug or not (i think it is but could not swear to that). but one way to check if it is temporary or not fairly easily is to reset the cell, you could do this with console, i do not remember the commands off-hand, or just make sure to go somewhere else for over 30 days (when i do the 30 day reset i go elsewhere then start my count of days, wait 30 full days then go back the next morning - doing it this way i am sure it has reset). hope the information is helpful On 2/17/2018 at 12:44 AM, Lupine00 said: In theory, this is a vanilla skyrim function. Many NPCs have a warn to leave behavior they run before they lock their doors at night. When that is running, you can't wait there. It has nothing to do with whether they like you or not. Well, sort of... If you're allowed to sleep there and can use their things, they won't throw you out. If the house belongs to you and not an NPC... Did you obtain it through vanilla means, or through LAL? Some LAL obtained dwellings are bugged because they have NPCs living in them who also think they own them. In any event, this may have nothing to do with DCL... But perhaps, as you suspect, it may have something to do with what is done to effect NPC reactions to you when wearing a parasite, or having "smelly" salve in your inventory. (Even though you don't, now). DCL does have a "no wait, no sleep" feature for Leon slavery, but you will see a message about being unable to sleep while taking damage if you have that. In any case, you wouldn't get that from tentacle parasite or eating the salve unless your skyrim were extremely broken. The main drawback of eating the salve is supposed to be that you need to make another salve. Though I don't believe that it was ever really a design feature that you could eat it. However, the salve itself is supposed to be obnoxious. It's possible that making another salveand using it correctly may reset things. Or perhaps it won't. You might also try disabling and re-enabling the NPCs who own the house. Thanks folks I'll give those a try tomorrow FWIW: - My PC owns the property - My PC ate the Salve but it remained in Inventory to use to remove the parasite All remains weird in the Land of Skyrim, but that's nothing new
S4WDU5T Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 4 hours ago, donkeywho said: FWIW: - My PC owns the property - My PC ate the Salve but it remained in Inventory to use to remove the parasite All remains weird in the Land of Skyrim, but that's nothing new Just a random thought, did you also mix the stinky stuff inside that house? I seem to recall the recipe book warning about only cooking the mix in an outdoor setting or you'd stank up the whole place and wear out your welcome fast, maybe that effect is more than just a line in the book?
DonQuiWho Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 4 hours ago, S4WDU5T said: Just a random thought, did you also mix the stinky stuff inside that house? I seem to recall the recipe book warning about only cooking the mix in an outdoor setting or you'd stank up the whole place and wear out your welcome fast, maybe that effect is more than just a line in the book? Thanks! That could well be the problem! I'll try that first
Lupine00 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 19 hours ago, LazyBoot said: On 18/02/2018 at 4:07 PM, Thegoodman said: Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support. This question has been asked by 2 people already on the same page... And keeps getting asked 3-5 times a week. I wonder if there should be a sort of troubleshooting FAQ on this mod even though you would've avoided most of these issues by just following the FAQs on every dependency you installed... Or like this... That I posted before Xmas... Here's a list of FAQ like questions and answers I gleaned from my reading: Perhaps I got some things wrong. Please, everyone feel free to improve this list... Massive list hidden here. Original has sub-spoiler sections in, but this version hasn't... I saved it from the original thread, to clean up, and never got around to it. Also needs some updates, probably, but I'm just posting it to make a point about FAQs. If you have a question/answer to add, please do. Spoiler Q. Why isn't my body, or certain devices appearing? Q. Why are my devices all clipping into each other? A1. You need to batch build bodyslide. A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version. Q. Why do I have purple textures? A1. You haven't actually completed the install properly. Did your NMM install actually complete successfully? A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version. Q. Why does DCL frequently fail to install through NMM? A. There's a dependency on skyrim.esm and often NMM turns skyrim.esm off for some reason. Quit NMM, reopen it, and re-run the install. Q. How do I turn off "Come here woman" demands? A. There's a checkbox for Misogyny in the Consequences section of the MCM. Q. Why can't I drop any bondage devices? My inventory is full of them! A. There's a checkbox called "Bondage Lover" in the Consequences section of the MCM. Scroll down. Right down. If it's ticked it may also increase arousal from wearing bondage devices. (I'm not sure, but people say it does). Q. How can I fix weird messages about "You place the <device> on bound girl" keep popping up? Q. How can I fix error boxes telling me I have a broken Devious Devices install, trying to add incompatible device to None. Help! A. This is caused by "bound girls" that spawn in town centres and inns. Sometimes their aliases do not populate properly. You may be able to fix this simply by setting the "Number of Slotted NPCs" in Devious Devices MCM (not DCL MCM), then reducing the number of bound girls allowed in the DCL MCM "Miscellaneous" tab (on the left, near the bottom). If that does not work, you need to repopulate the aliases and restart the management quest from the console. There is a detailed description of how to do this posted repeatedly on the forum. It is fully fixable, and is unlikely to break your game. Q. Why isn't <insert device> animating properly? A. You need to re-run FNIS. Q. Why is my script-lag so bad? A. It's probably XPMSE, or Estrus for Skyrim, or some other mod; it's probably not DCL. Q. How can I get arrested for being naked? Having sex? Getting raped? A. In the MCM Consequences tab, there are options for "Public Indecency". Q. Is there a prostitution option? A. Yes. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab. Q. How can I get into trouble for soliciting? A. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab, on the right, there are options for failure. You can also set a chance for "critical failures," which are worse. (Note that the Slut Collar, and Chain Harness, are pretty hardcore, and will cause you a lot of problems). Q. I can't get into the MCM options while restrained! A. There is an option in the MCM, at the top of "MIscellaneous" options to "Lock menu while tied". Untick it. If you can't get into the menu, you can't untick it. You need to untick this before you get stuck in devices. If you are really stuck, there is way to reset this directly from the console (but I can't remember exactly what it is). Q. I'm stuck, how get I get out of <devices> or <quest>? A. Use the FREE ME!!! button. If you have a locked menu, it's just about the only option you have. If you have full menu access, it's in "Debug". Q. I can't get raped. The debug status says I'm not vulnerable to rape. I'm naked and helpless, so why not? A. In the MCM "Rape" tab, there is an "Arousal Threshold", though it's not obvious, no rapes can occur if your arousal is below that threshold. You can set it to zero, if you don't think your character's arousal should have any connection to getting raped or not. Q. How do I remove the tentacle parasite? A. Ask an alchemist. Do not eat the salve. Q. I had self bondage on, and use items from inventory on, and I magically conjured an armbinder from nowhere. What gives, is this a bug? A. Oddly enough, this is by design! If you don't like it, either make sure you have some bondage items with you at all times, or turn off self-bondage. Q. Why can't I remove the <insert chastity belt here>? I have chastity keys. A. The high security belts use "body restraint" keys, which are rare, non-craftable keys. They drop rate is off the "rare keys" chance. Q. I'm in the Rubber Doll collar, but I have no quest info. A. Quest doesn't start until the Rubber Doll collar starts to grow. Sometimes you can break this by doing weird things to your arousal. If you have your arousal rate set to something weird, reload, and set it to something normal before allowing the collar to grow. Q. Where is the Dollmaker's Shop? A. Dawnstar, on the edge of the water, almost at the far end from where you usually enter. Q. Who is Sasha? A. The Dollmaker's daughter. You can buy her! Q. I bought Sasha, but she won't wear any devices. A. She wears the devices that come from her special toy box. You were given it when you bought her. Unpack it. Enjoy. Q. I can't get Sasha to play dominant. A. You have to remove all devices off her. Make sure her collar is off. Q. Can I get Sasha to enslave me properly? A. Hide contents Sort of. There's a variable you can set from the console so she won't stop being dominant. However, Sasha is a focus for new features, so who knows next version? Q. I'm doing Damsel in Distress, and I can't figure out how to get out of <bondage item>. A. The quest is not broken. There is a way out. That said, sometimes it breaks, but very rarely. Do not accidentally use an SLDialogues chat, or other mod's chat to remove an item from this quest, then it will be broken. Hide contents Try struggling to escape arm binders. Search plants and anything else to get keys. Mostly you need keys, and rare keys at that, regular restraint and chastity keys probably aren't going to cut it. It takes time. Sometime an NPC will come along who might help you. Q. Where are Sasha's plugs? I can't find them in the toy box / my inventory. A. They exist as dialogue. Put her in a belt and then you can talk them into her. True! Q. The Captured Dreams shop master took off all my devices, then put them back on? What gives? A. Captured Dreams is not part of DCL. Removing DCL devices via CD can break your game, best not to try in case you succeed. Q. Why doesn't Leon/Leah properly remove the obsidian corset when slavery (or Leon's quest) ends? How do I get it off? A. Corsets seem to require a two pass remove, and even then sometimes get stuck, if you were wearing a belt. This is due to some DD magic that merges corsets and belts so they render without clipping. To remove them requires unmerging them, which seems to fail. A lot. If it's a regular corset, a key should do the job. If it's the obsidian corset, the MCM "Debug" tab's FREE ME!!! is probably your best course. Failing that, console yourself Leon's master key and remove it that way. Q. I did a Little Bondage Adventure, but the vendor didn't remove the corset at the end. How do I get it off? A. See above, but in this case Leon's master key is no use, and you need multiple body restraint keys. If you can't get it off with FREE ME!!!, it may be bugged. Q. How can I get SD+ enslaved via DCL combat defeat? A. Use Simple Slavery to trigger SD+ enslavements from DCL. Do not set Simple Slavery to give you DCL collars, do that directly via DCL defeat options (hardcore outcomes). SS seems to put the collars on bugged, sometimes. Q. I got the item off by getting help in a dialogue but now something is broken... What can I do? A. Reload. You removed a DCL item via an SLDialogues dialogue (or some other mod), and now it's broken. In practice you can often fix this from the console by deleting the hidden, nameless device. Identify it by the model name. YMMV. Might break your save, but really, it's probably already broken. Q. I had a DCL hardcore collar on, and then got SD+ enslaved. Things are weird. What can I do? A. Reload. Definitely reload. You can try using DCL "FREE ME!!!", probably twice, if you have a corset on, or something tricky. Then, if there is an SD+ debug/console option to end the slavery (not sure about that), use it, because your SD+ enslavement is bound to be broken. Q. I'm doing Leon's Party quest, and I can't find the <insert bondage item> here. A. Check containers. Check ALL the containers. Don't forget to check containers on the entry floor, outside the door to the party that was locked. Q. I ended up with Leon/Leah's obsidian piercings/corset stuck on me. How can I get them off? A. The best way is to use the console to give yourself a copy of Leon's master key, then unlock them properly. Q. If I finish the Bound Queen, can I wear the items afterwards? A. Yes, you can. Once you have the key, you can add and remove the items. Q. I've just about finished the Bound Queen, but Julius won't give me the key. A. Hide contents You have to wait an absurdly long time. Q. I've messed up the Bound Queen somehow, due to a crash, or another mod, or human error. Can I fix it? A. If you need to add or remove items, you can give yourself the key via the console. While you have the key, items can be added or removed. Just destroy the key afterwards. Q. Leon/Leah/Sasha won't respond to me or offer the proper dialogue options. Is this normal? A. No. They are broken. You need to reload an older save. This seems to happen less with Sasha, more with Leah. Q. I finished the party quest, and picked Leah, but Leah is missing. Where can I find her? A. Reload an older save. It may be possible to summon her using console tricks. YMMV. Be careful, there are two Leah's. Leah can bug-out, if you pick to be enslaved to her, while with Leon, and you break the slavery rules (e.g. lots of keys, or money), she breaks if she does a compliance check on you, and you're not actually there. This can happen while you're on the way to see her. Corollary of this, don't ever wander away from Leah and break the compliance rules, it can make her bug out. Q. I'm doing Leon's Party quest. The servant just teleported to the mansion but I got left behind. How can I fix it? A. If you don't know his ID, the easiest way is to reload and try again. If it fails persistently, reload, open console, select the servant (Claudius?) and find his ID. Go to an indoor area, preferably a quiet one. Use moveto player to bring him to you. Initiate the dialogue and have him port you. Other tips: Playing a DCL game with SD+ or CD installed together with it, is very tempting, but the chance of a conflict is high, especially with collars or quests. I have never played a game with these in together and not had it go bad somehow. There is an option in DCL to "disable all functions" in the "Debug" menu of the MCM. Do this before doing anything serious with CD or SD+. Even then, things can, and do go wrong. DCL doesn't play as well with Deviously Helpless, Milk Mod Economy, Deviously Enslaved, or SexLab (Devious) Stories, as you might expect or hope. It's probably safer not to co-install these mods together if you can possibly resist the urge. Death Alternative YMOYL is known for problems, avoid if you can possibly do so. You don' t need it for Live Another Life. If you use Simple Slavery, you must enable the "patch" in the DCL install FOMOD. If you don't, SS will be broken and you will get wacky auctions, crashes to black screen, and the like. If you enable hardcore bondage mitts, it can (rarely) cause you to drop quest items and break quests. The fix is to enable the option that stops you dropping items to the ground, so they just go into your inventory. If you are careful, Devious Equip is safe with DCL, but only because Devious Equip doesn't do things automatically. Make sure you have no DCL items on, and disable DCL before using it, just to be safe. Similarly, get rid of all Devious Equip items before turning DCL back on. It would be great if people would contribute to improve this list, so it just gets better, more accurate, and more complete over time, and will appear in the forum, repeatedly, where it will be hard for people to miss. Include a link for how to batch build in bodyslide here? E.g. here. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/71481-tutorial-building-dd-items-in-bodyslide-nmmmo/ Incidentally, I find when I have a problem with items not fitting correctly, it's usually becuase I forgot to tick "build morphs" in Bodyslide. This setting is non-persistent so you have to tick it each time. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. Why do I have purple textures? A1. You haven't actually completed the install properly. Did your NMM install actually complete successfully? A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version. Q. Why does DCL frequently fail to install through NMM? A. There's a dependency on skyrim.esm and often NMM turns skyrim.esm off for some reason. Quit NMM, reopen it, and re-run the install. Also, use Mod Organizer. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. How do I turn off "Come here woman" demands? A. There's a checkbox for Misogyny in the Consequences section of the MCM. Q. Why can't I drop any bondage devices? My inventory is full of them! A. There's a checkbox called "Bondage Lover" in the Consequences section of the MCM. Scroll down. Right down. If it's ticked it may also increase arousal from wearing bondage devices. (I'm not sure, but people say it does). Q. How can I fix weird messages about "You place the <device> on bound girl" keep popping up? Q. How can I fix error boxes telling me I have a broken Devious Devices install, trying to add incompatible device to None. Help! A. This is caused by "bound girls" that spawn in town centres and inns. Sometimes their aliases do not populate properly. You may be able to fix this simply by setting the "Number of Slotted NPCs" in Devious Devices MCM (not DCL MCM), then reducing the number of bound girls allowed in the DCL MCM "Miscellaneous" tab (on the left, near the bottom). If that does not work, you need to repopulate the aliases and restart the management quest from the console. There is a detailed description of how to do this posted repeatedly on the forum. It is fully fixable, and is unlikely to break your game. There should be link to the 'detailed description', otherwise it defeats the aim of not having to search through the forum. I just turn off bound girls myself. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. Why isn't <insert device> animating properly? A. You need to re-run FNIS. Q. Why is my script-lag so bad? A. It's probably XPMSE, or Estrus for Skyrim, or some other mod; it's probably not DCL. SLAR, CF and Sexy Moves all perform regular cell scans, which you can make less frequent or turn off entirely to reduce load. I'm not sure whether the CF scan actually has any in-game effect, so that be an easy place to start. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. How can I get arrested for being naked? Having sex? Getting raped? A. In the MCM Consequences tab, there are options for "Public Indecency". NB There's currently a bug which prevents guards arresting you if you get raped or if you have "deferred arrest" selected (although you'll still get reported by civilians). I provided an amended script here, which works for me. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. Is there a prostitution option? A. Yes. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab. Q. How can I get into trouble for soliciting? A. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab, on the right, there are options for failure. You can also set a chance for "critical failures," which are worse. (Note that the Slut Collar, and Chain Harness, are pretty hardcore, and will cause you a lot of problems). Q. I can't get into the MCM options while restrained! A. There is an option in the MCM, at the top of "MIscellaneous" options to "Lock menu while tied". Untick it. If you can't get into the menu, you can't untick it. You need to untick this before you get stuck in devices. If you are really stuck, there is way to reset this directly from the console (but I can't remember exactly what it is). You can also safe-word. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. I'm stuck, how get I get out of <devices> or <quest>? A. Use the FREE ME!!! button. If you have a locked menu, it's just about the only option you have. If you have full menu access, it's in "Debug". It's always in Debug! Note that this is disabled in hardcore mode, in which case you're stuck (but presumably wanted to be!). 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. I can't get raped. The debug status says I'm not vulnerable to rape. I'm naked and helpless, so why not? A. In the MCM "Rape" tab, there is an "Arousal Threshold", though it's not obvious, no rapes can occur if your arousal is below that threshold. You can set it to zero, if you don't think your character's arousal should have any connection to getting raped or not. There is also a setting to enable rape, which is off by default. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. How do I remove the tentacle parasite? A. Ask an alchemist. Do not eat the salve. Q. I had self bondage on, and use items from inventory on, and I magically conjured an armbinder from nowhere. What gives, is this a bug? A. Oddly enough, this is by design! If you don't like it, either make sure you have some bondage items with you at all times, or turn off self-bondage. Really? This has never happened to me. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. Why can't I remove the <insert chastity belt here>? I have chastity keys. A. The high security belts use "body restraint" keys, which are rare, non-craftable keys. They drop rate is off the "rare keys" chance. The "high security" belt needs to be removed by a blacksmith (for a fee). The chastity belt of misogyny requires 3 body restraint keys to unlock (which is ridiculous in my view: I just console up two additional keys after finding the first one). The chastity belt of shame is timed and cannot be removed until the time is up. The slave chastity belt requires five different keys to unlock. Have I forgotten any? 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. I'm in the Rubber Doll collar, but I have no quest info. A. Quest doesn't start until the Rubber Doll collar starts to grow. Sometimes you can break this by doing weird things to your arousal. If you have your arousal rate set to something weird, reload, and set it to something normal before allowing the collar to grow. Q. Where is the Dollmaker's Shop? A. Dawnstar, on the edge of the water, almost at the far end from where you usually enter. Spoiler! I'm not sure we should be answering that question at all, but it needs spoiler tags at least. 1 hour ago, Lupine00 said: Q. Who is Sasha? A. The Dollmaker's daughter. You can buy her! Q. I bought Sasha, but she won't wear any devices. A. She wears the devices that come from her special toy box. You were given it when you bought her. Unpack it. Enjoy. Q. I can't get Sasha to play dominant. A. You have to remove all devices off her. Make sure her collar is off. Q. Can I get Sasha to enslave me properly? A. Reveal hidden contents Q. I'm doing Damsel in Distress, and I can't figure out how to get out of <bondage item>. A. The quest is not broken. There is a way out. That said, sometimes it breaks, but very rarely. Do not accidentally use an SLDialogues chat, or other mod's chat to remove an item from this quest, then it will be broken. Reveal hidden contents Q. Where are Sasha's plugs? I can't find them in the toy box / my inventory. A. They exist as dialogue. Put her in a belt and then you can talk them into her. True! Q. The Captured Dreams shop master took off all my devices, then put them back on? What gives? A. Captured Dreams is not part of DCL. Removing DCL devices via CD can break your game, best not to try in case you succeed. Q. Why doesn't Leon/Leah properly remove the obsidian corset when slavery (or Leon's quest) ends? How do I get it off? A. Corsets seem to require a two pass remove, and even then sometimes get stuck, if you were wearing a belt. This is due to some DD magic that merges corsets and belts so they render without clipping. To remove them requires unmerging them, which seems to fail. A lot. If it's a regular corset, a key should do the job. If it's the obsidian corset, the MCM "Debug" tab's FREE ME!!! is probably your best course. Failing that, console yourself Leon's master key and remove it that way. Q. I did a Little Bondage Adventure, but the vendor didn't remove the corset at the end. How do I get it off? A. See above, but in this case Leon's master key is no use, and you need multiple body restraint keys. If you can't get it off with FREE ME!!!, it may be bugged. Q. How can I get SD+ enslaved via DCL combat defeat? A. Use Simple Slavery to trigger SD+ enslavements from DCL. Do not set Simple Slavery to give you DCL collars, do that directly via DCL defeat options (hardcore outcomes). SS seems to put the collars on bugged, sometimes. Q. I got the item off by getting help in a dialogue but now something is broken... What can I do? A. Reload. You removed a DCL item via an SLDialogues dialogue (or some other mod), and now it's broken. In practice you can often fix this from the console by deleting the hidden, nameless device. Identify it by the model name. YMMV. Might break your save, but really, it's probably already broken. Q. I had a DCL hardcore collar on, and then got SD+ enslaved. Things are weird. What can I do? A. Reload. Definitely reload. You can try using DCL "FREE ME!!!", probably twice, if you have a corset on, or something tricky. Then, if there is an SD+ debug/console option to end the slavery (not sure about that), use it, because your SD+ enslavement is bound to be broken. Q. I'm doing Leon's Party quest, and I can't find the <insert bondage item> here. A. Check containers. Check ALL the containers. Don't forget to check containers on the entry floor, outside the door to the party that was locked. Q. I ended up with Leon/Leah's obsidian piercings/corset stuck on me. How can I get them off? A. The best way is to use the console to give yourself a copy of Leon's master key, then unlock them properly. This is a duplicate question (at least for the corset). Proposed addition: Q. I am wearing a blindfold (i.e. it is shown on my face and the blindfold effect is active) but there is no blindfold equipped in inventory and I am unable to remove it by safe-wording. A. This bug isn't caused by DCL. There is a solution here. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/59665-devious-devices-blindfold-effect-wont-go-away/?p=1922734 1
Guest Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Thanks for the Faq. I want to ask about some of the loot in DCL, specifically Sasha's stuff that I've learned to acquire in the console. Her boots, her corset, her locket, Her ankle chains, And a few other items I might have missed, well Would player get some sort of attraction-bonus for wearing them? If Peaches loaded up on a set of items excluding any chastity-type items, would it help anything? *I* (user) don't count, although I swear I seem to be getting some virtual fetish. Bondage-lover: not checked, I want her (player-Peaches) to only have what she's wearing to keep her weight down. Irresistable urges: I keep her arousal below the trigger level, or she ends up putting on stuff that blocks some sex. What she'd like is something pretty to really get her partner going. I was convinced that armbinders do this, but that might have been a bug, and armbinders are fine in the house but afterwards they kind of stick out and get in the way. I might delete this, it might not be proper to dispel mysteries...I'll be back later/
initforthebewbs Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 How do i set the chances and option for dom sasha like it says i can? Can't find anything relevant in the MCM, even under dominant follower
valcon767 Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 11 hours ago, 2dk2c said: Thanks for the Faq. I want to ask about some of the loot in DCL, specifically Sasha's stuff that I've learned to acquire in the console. Her boots, her corset, her locket, Her ankle chains, And a few other items I might have missed, well Would player get some sort of attraction-bonus for wearing them? If Peaches loaded up on a set of items excluding any chastity-type items, would it help anything? *I* (user) don't count, although I swear I seem to be getting some virtual fetish. Bondage-lover: not checked, I want her (player-Peaches) to only have what she's wearing to keep her weight down. Irresistable urges: I keep her arousal below the trigger level, or she ends up putting on stuff that blocks some sex. What she'd like is something pretty to really get her partner going. I was convinced that armbinders do this, but that might have been a bug, and armbinders are fine in the house but afterwards they kind of stick out and get in the way. I might delete this, it might not be proper to dispel mysteries...I'll be back later/ acquiring stuff thru the console (or add item menu or similar mod) can cause problems if they are quest items, and last time i checked all of Sasha's items are quest items (so adding a extra copy thru console can cause problems up to breaking the game). bondage lover - if this acts up (its unchecked but acts like its active) you can try going to a quiet place and then check the box, exit all menus, wait a minute (or 3), go back into the MCM and uncheck it again, wait again, then check to see if it fixed it. if all else fails you can use the "free me" button to try to reset the mod (this will end all DCL quests and remove DCL and generic items though). getting the partner going sounds like it was a bug, but this is affected by Devious Devices settings (npc slotted, and what they are wearing affects this), and whether they are considered "nude", or what is in their sight line (SLA, SLAR affects this). the armbinders issue is actually an issue with Devious Devices - specifically how many NPCs it checks - you can try increasing the number of NPCs slotted in it's MCM and see if that fixes the issue.
Code Serpent Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 I've noticed a few small bugs that I keep encountering: Any catsuit/dress/straightjacket that's equipped on the player is duplicated, ie every time one is equipped, I'll have two inventory items. Looking through the code, it looks like this is because you call libs.equipDevice before calling a.addItem for all dresses and suits. Look around line 2700 in dcur_library. The conditions for the gagged dialogue "Someone forgot to tie your hands..." is backwards, so this line is spoken only when the player's hands are already tied. It seems like the "You dream of bondage..." event doesn't take into consideration the restraints threshold, as my character was dressed head to toe, only missing a gag and blindfold, and then got that event, twice in a row. The rape trigger's seem to be off, as my character had a chastity bra, belt, and a gag, but was still raped while sleeping to recover from her struggling attempts. 2
Ildon Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 One problem I have had since updating is that the character's arms do not pull back into armbinders like they used to. Her hands disappear and her stumpy arms hang at her sides like normal, although they do position as expected during any armbinder animations before going back to hanging at her sides afterward.
Lupine00 Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 4 hours ago, IronDusk33 said: The rape trigger's seem to be off I've seen this too. Repeatedly. Also, I'm reasonably convinced that "boots make vulnerable" overrides everything, or at least some things it shouldn't, such as rape entirely disabled, is still enabled if you're in slave boots. This might be related to disabling DCL events blocking certain updates of state from the MCM though.
DonQuiWho Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 9:48 AM, donkeywho said: Thanks! That could well be the problem! I'll try that first After a load of testing, egs waiting 30+ days for respawn to happen, clearing the property and console reset of cells, and going back to old saves, I guess that my problem with not being allowed to wait in my Player House probably has nothing to do with the DCL's Tentacles and Smellies - on old save loads, it actually seems to predate the tentacle wearing It's more likely to be the base game 'Trespassing Bug'. Can't find any any fix for that anywhere that works. Not trying to hijack Kimy's thread, but anyone any clue on that? Send me a PM if you'd rather not post it here TIA for any help offered
Code Serpent Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 14 hours ago, IronDusk33 said: The rape trigger's seem to be off, as my character had a chastity bra, belt, and a gag, but was still raped while sleeping to recover from her struggling attempts. 10 hours ago, Lupine00 said: I've seen this too. Repeatedly. Also, I'm reasonably convinced that "boots make vulnerable" overrides everything, or at least some things it shouldn't, such as rape entirely disabled, is still enabled if you're in slave boots. This might be related to disabling DCL events blocking certain updates of state from the MCM though. I think that the rape while sleeping is based purely on chance, and doesn't depend on anything else. It also seems like it 'triggers' before actually scanning for rapists, so you'll get the "You're getting pulled out of bed..." line even if there is no one there. I'm also really hoping for Kimy to finally add some morality and relationship conditions, so that my character won't get raped by Priest of Mara, or at least not by Erandur after I saved all of Dawnstar.
Lupine00 Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 3 hours ago, IronDusk33 said: I think that the rape while sleeping is based purely on chance, and doesn't depend on anything else. It also seems like it 'triggers' before actually scanning for rapists, so you'll get the "You're getting pulled out of bed..." line even if there is no one there. I'm also really hoping for Kimy to finally add some morality and relationship conditions, so that my character won't get raped by Priest of Mara, or at least not by Erandur after I saved all of Dawnstar. I think you are exactly right. But other than the top-level rape enable, the MCM gives the impression that's how it works. Maybe it would be less MCM items overall if there were one consistent way to configure rape and its modifiers, and being asleep was simply one more of those modifiers. As for the identity of rapists, and morality, misogyny suffers from this too. It's quite odd who will force themselves on you, and when. Personally, I think it would make more sense if shop keepers didn't do this, unless specifically enabled, because it's really odd when they practically rape you, then you invest in their shop, and they buy a load of random junk from you. I could see it if it were a bit more realistically oppressive - if they hinted that if you oblige them you'll get better prices, but if you don't, they might tell the guard you stole a sweet roll, and then you choose, and then there's a morality based chance they'll do something good if you were enthusiastic, or bad if you rejected the advance. Unless you're bound of course, then they just do as they like. Obviously, in that case, you were asking for it! At least that's what my sexist guard told me. In this new, more rational world, only guards would inflict the misogyny refusal punishments on you, in response to a citizen complaint. It hardly makes sense that a shopkeeper or random townsperson would chance trying to overpower a heavily armed and armored woman, with a history of violence, just to slap a time-locked chastity belt on her. Also, for rape, I'd rather have some shifty looking men hanging around taverns and town squares (e.g. with names like Storm Cloak Glory Seeker, and Imperial Volunteer, depending on location), people from out of town, travelling because of the war ... and they would be the only ones to actually rape you (apart from specifically listed NPCs that Kimy judged liable to rape). That would give Riften a very different feel, to say Solitude. In Riften, the whole town square, or anyone in a tavern might jump on you, even the women, but in Solitude, not so much. I'd rather NPCs like that, than the bound girls, who are more a Skyrim equivalent a slot machine for gamblers.
Code Serpent Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 It also looks like the Bondage Adventure quest is also bugged. My character was locked up by the Dollmaker, but the quest for some reason told me to go to Adrianne in Whiterun? Actually no... Upon looking closer, it looks like the person you have to return to is completely random, and I have no idea why that is.
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