Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

*Lupine00* · February 19, 2018

19 hours ago, LazyBoot said:

On 18/02/2018 at 4:07 PM, Thegoodman said:

Provided you have Bodyslide installed, it should be a simple thing. go into your game files (or, if you are using NMM, go to supported tools by the search bar), open bodyslide, and hit batch build. DO NOT PANIC if you get a second window titled "Choose output set". this is just for (In my experiance) choosing between HDT or non-HDT support.

This question has been asked by 2 people already on the same page... And keeps getting asked 3-5 times a week. I wonder if there should be a sort of troubleshooting FAQ on this mod even though you would've avoided most of these issues by just following the FAQs on every dependency you installed...

Or like this... That I posted before Xmas...

Here's a list of FAQ like questions and answers I gleaned from my reading:

Perhaps I got some things wrong. Please, everyone feel free to improve this list...

Massive list hidden here.

Original has sub-spoiler sections in, but this version hasn't... I saved it from the original thread, to clean up, and never got around to it.

Also needs some updates, probably, but I'm just posting it to make a point about FAQs.

If you have a question/answer to add, please do.

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Q. Why isn't my body, or certain devices appearing?

Q. Why are my devices all clipping into each other?

A1. You need to batch build bodyslide.

A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version.

Q. Why do I have purple textures?

A1. You haven't actually completed the install properly. Did your NMM install actually complete successfully?

A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version.

Q. Why does DCL frequently fail to install through NMM?

A. There's a dependency on skyrim.esm and often NMM turns skyrim.esm off for some reason. Quit NMM, reopen it, and re-run the install.

Q. How do I turn off "Come here woman" demands?

A. There's a checkbox for Misogyny in the Consequences section of the MCM.

Q. Why can't I drop any bondage devices? My inventory is full of them!

A. There's a checkbox called "Bondage Lover" in the Consequences section of the MCM. Scroll down. Right down.

If it's ticked it may also increase arousal from wearing bondage devices. (I'm not sure, but people say it does).

Q. How can I fix weird messages about "You place the <device> on bound girl" keep popping up?

Q. How can I fix error boxes telling me I have a broken Devious Devices install, trying to add incompatible device to None. Help!

A. This is caused by "bound girls" that spawn in town centres and inns. Sometimes their aliases do not populate properly.

You may be able to fix this simply by setting the "Number of Slotted NPCs" in Devious Devices MCM (not DCL MCM), then reducing the number of bound girls allowed in the DCL MCM "Miscellaneous" tab (on the left, near the bottom).

If that does not work, you need to repopulate the aliases and restart the management quest from the console. There is a detailed description of how to do this posted repeatedly on the forum. It is fully fixable, and is unlikely to break your game.

Q. Why isn't <insert device> animating properly?

A. You need to re-run FNIS.

Q. Why is my script-lag so bad?

A. It's probably XPMSE, or Estrus for Skyrim, or some other mod; it's probably not DCL.

Q. How can I get arrested for being naked? Having sex? Getting raped?

A. In the MCM Consequences tab, there are options for "Public Indecency".

Q. Is there a prostitution option?

A. Yes. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab.

Q. How can I get into trouble for soliciting?

A. In the MCM "Solicitation" tab, on the right, there are options for failure. You can also set a chance for "critical failures," which are worse.

(Note that the Slut Collar, and Chain Harness, are pretty hardcore, and will cause you a lot of problems).

Q. I can't get into the MCM options while restrained!

A. There is an option in the MCM, at the top of "MIscellaneous" options to "Lock menu while tied". Untick it.

If you can't get into the menu, you can't untick it. You need to untick this before you get stuck in devices.

If you are really stuck, there is way to reset this directly from the console (but I can't remember exactly what it is).

Q. I'm stuck, how get I get out of <devices> or <quest>?

A. Use the FREE ME!!! button. If you have a locked menu, it's just about the only option you have. If you have full menu access, it's in "Debug".

Q. I can't get raped. The debug status says I'm not vulnerable to rape. I'm naked and helpless, so why not?

A. In the MCM "Rape" tab, there is an "Arousal Threshold", though it's not obvious, no rapes can occur if your arousal is below that threshold.

You can set it to zero, if you don't think your character's arousal should have any connection to getting raped or not.

Q. How do I remove the tentacle parasite?

A. Ask an alchemist. Do not eat the salve.

Q. I had self bondage on, and use items from inventory on, and I magically conjured an armbinder from nowhere. What gives, is this a bug?

A. Oddly enough, this is by design! If you don't like it, either make sure you have some bondage items with you at all times, or turn off self-bondage.

Q. Why can't I remove the <insert chastity belt here>? I have chastity keys.

A. The high security belts use "body restraint" keys, which are rare, non-craftable keys. They drop rate is off the "rare keys" chance.

Q. I'm in the Rubber Doll collar, but I have no quest info.

A. Quest doesn't start until the Rubber Doll collar starts to grow. Sometimes you can break this by doing weird things to your arousal. If you have your arousal rate set to something weird, reload, and set it to something normal before allowing the collar to grow.

Q. Where is the Dollmaker's Shop?

A. Dawnstar, on the edge of the water, almost at the far end from where you usually enter.

Q. Who is Sasha?

A. The Dollmaker's daughter. You can buy her!

Q. I bought Sasha, but she won't wear any devices.

A. She wears the devices that come from her special toy box. You were given it when you bought her. Unpack it. Enjoy.

Q. I can't get Sasha to play dominant.

A. You have to remove all devices off her. Make sure her collar is off.

Q. Can I get Sasha to enslave me properly?

A.

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Sort of. There's a variable you can set from the console so she won't stop being dominant. However, Sasha is a focus for new features, so who knows next version?

Q. I'm doing Damsel in Distress, and I can't figure out how to get out of <bondage item>.

A. The quest is not broken. There is a way out. That said, sometimes it breaks, but very rarely.

Do not accidentally use an SLDialogues chat, or other mod's chat to remove an item from this quest, then it will be broken.

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Try struggling to escape arm binders. Search plants and anything else to get keys. Mostly you need keys, and rare keys at that, regular restraint and chastity keys probably aren't going to cut it. It takes time. Sometime an NPC will come along who might help you.

Q. Where are Sasha's plugs? I can't find them in the toy box / my inventory.

A. They exist as dialogue. Put her in a belt and then you can talk them into her. True!

Q. The Captured Dreams shop master took off all my devices, then put them back on? What gives?

A. Captured Dreams is not part of DCL. Removing DCL devices via CD can break your game, best not to try in case you succeed.

Q. Why doesn't Leon/Leah properly remove the obsidian corset when slavery (or Leon's quest) ends? How do I get it off?

A. Corsets seem to require a two pass remove, and even then sometimes get stuck, if you were wearing a belt.

This is due to some DD magic that merges corsets and belts so they render without clipping. To remove them requires unmerging them,

which seems to fail. A lot. If it's a regular corset, a key should do the job. If it's the obsidian corset, the MCM "Debug" tab's FREE ME!!!

is probably your best course. Failing that, console yourself Leon's master key and remove it that way.

Q. I did a Little Bondage Adventure, but the vendor didn't remove the corset at the end. How do I get it off?

A. See above, but in this case Leon's master key is no use, and you need multiple body restraint keys.

If you can't get it off with FREE ME!!!, it may be bugged.

Q. How can I get SD+ enslaved via DCL combat defeat?

A. Use Simple Slavery to trigger SD+ enslavements from DCL.

Do not set Simple Slavery to give you DCL collars, do that directly via DCL defeat options (hardcore outcomes). SS seems to put the collars on bugged, sometimes.

Q. I got the item off by getting help in a dialogue but now something is broken... What can I do?

A. Reload. You removed a DCL item via an SLDialogues dialogue (or some other mod), and now it's broken.

In practice you can often fix this from the console by deleting the hidden, nameless device. Identify it by the model name. YMMV. Might break your save, but really, it's probably already broken.

Q. I had a DCL hardcore collar on, and then got SD+ enslaved. Things are weird. What can I do?

A. Reload. Definitely reload.

You can try using DCL "FREE ME!!!", probably twice, if you have a corset on, or something tricky.

Then, if there is an SD+ debug/console option to end the slavery (not sure about that), use it, because your SD+ enslavement is bound to be broken.

Q. I'm doing Leon's Party quest, and I can't find the <insert bondage item> here.

A. Check containers. Check ALL the containers. Don't forget to check containers on the entry floor, outside the door to the party that was locked.

Q. I ended up with Leon/Leah's obsidian piercings/corset stuck on me. How can I get them off?

A. The best way is to use the console to give yourself a copy of Leon's master key, then unlock them properly.

Q. If I finish the Bound Queen, can I wear the items afterwards?

A. Yes, you can. Once you have the key, you can add and remove the items.

Q. I've just about finished the Bound Queen, but Julius won't give me the key.

A.

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You have to wait an absurdly long time.

Q. I've messed up the Bound Queen somehow, due to a crash, or another mod, or human error. Can I fix it?

A. If you need to add or remove items, you can give yourself the key via the console. While you have the key, items can be added or removed.

Just destroy the key afterwards.

Q. Leon/Leah/Sasha won't respond to me or offer the proper dialogue options. Is this normal?

A. No. They are broken. You need to reload an older save. This seems to happen less with Sasha, more with Leah.

Q. I finished the party quest, and picked Leah, but Leah is missing. Where can I find her?

A. Reload an older save. It may be possible to summon her using console tricks. YMMV. Be careful, there are two Leah's.

Leah can bug-out, if you pick to be enslaved to her, while with Leon, and you break the slavery rules (e.g. lots of keys, or money), she breaks if she does a compliance check on you, and you're not actually there. This can happen while you're on the way to see her.

Corollary of this, don't ever wander away from Leah and break the compliance rules, it can make her bug out.

Q. I'm doing Leon's Party quest. The servant just teleported to the mansion but I got left behind. How can I fix it?

A. If you don't know his ID, the easiest way is to reload and try again.

If it fails persistently, reload, open console, select the servant (Claudius?) and find his ID.

Go to an indoor area, preferably a quiet one.

Use moveto player to bring him to you.

Initiate the dialogue and have him port you.

Other tips:

Playing a DCL game with SD+ or CD installed together with it, is very tempting, but the chance of a conflict is high, especially with collars or quests. I have never played a game with these in together and not had it go bad somehow.
There is an option in DCL to "disable all functions" in the "Debug" menu of the MCM. Do this before doing anything serious with CD or SD+. Even then, things can, and do go wrong.
DCL doesn't play as well with Deviously Helpless, Milk Mod Economy, Deviously Enslaved, or SexLab (Devious) Stories, as you might expect or hope. It's probably safer not to co-install these mods together if you can possibly resist the urge.
Death Alternative YMOYL is known for problems, avoid if you can possibly do so. You don' t need it for Live Another Life.
If you use Simple Slavery, you must enable the "patch" in the DCL install FOMOD. If you don't, SS will be broken and you will get wacky auctions, crashes to black screen, and the like.
If you enable hardcore bondage mitts, it can (rarely) cause you to drop quest items and break quests. The fix is to enable the option that stops you dropping items to the ground, so they just go into your inventory.
If you are careful, Devious Equip is safe with DCL, but only because Devious Equip doesn't do things automatically. Make sure you have no DCL items on, and disable DCL before using it, just to be safe. Similarly, get rid of all Devious Equip items before turning DCL back on.

It would be great if people would contribute to improve this list, so it just gets better, more accurate, and more complete over time, and will appear in the forum, repeatedly, where it will be hard for people to miss.

Include a link for how to batch build in bodyslide here? E.g. here.
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/71481-tutorial-building-dd-items-in-bodyslide-nmmmo/
Incidentally, I find when I have a problem with items not fitting correctly, it's usually becuase I forgot to tick "build morphs" in Bodyslide. This setting is non-persistent so you have to tick it each time.

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Q. Why do I have purple textures?

A1. You haven't actually completed the install properly. Did your NMM install actually complete successfully?

A2. You installed a patch instead of the full version.

Q. Why does DCL frequently fail to install through NMM?

A. There's a dependency on skyrim.esm and often NMM turns skyrim.esm off for some reason. Quit NMM, reopen it, and re-run the install.

Also, use Mod Organizer.