Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[tuxagent7]

25 minutes ago, nurso12 said:

The little Guide in the Pictures is quite helpful, but it would be more helpful if it wasn't embedded in a Picture, so you can see the Text better. Anyhow if i do understand that correctly i have to do that for evry item and/or body? Wtf seriosly? Thanks but no thanks. I dont do the Mod Creators work.

 

I didn't say anything about being handicapped because that shouldn't matter, i simply can't use the Tool, but theire are more People wo alsp can't/don't want to use it, and are owerwhelmed by all of this for their own reasons.

At the bottom left corner, you make a batch build, you select all items and it does every items once and then you are set to play

 

You dont have to make each item individually

[nurso12]

23 minutes ago, tuxagent7 said:

At the bottom left corner, you make a batch build, you select all items and it does every items once and then you are set to play

 

You dont have to make each item individually

See that was helpful and took you what 10 seconds? Im really thankful that finally someone wants to help and dosnt just assume that i am not able ro read ond should use the guides which can be found, but evry single Guide there is is aimed for people who aren't completly new to this kind of Tools. Ive still a few questions, which again coulld possibly be solved... For eample which body i have to chose, or where can i see how irs called and what if mine doesnt show up in the List? 

 

 

[tuxagent7]

12 minutes ago, nurso12 said:

See that was helpful an took you what 10 seconds? Im really thankful that finally someone wants to help, ive still a few questions, which again coulld possibly be solved... For eample which body i have to chose, or where can i see how irs called and what if mine doesnt show up in the List?

 

 

Well what is the body you are currently playing ? CBBE or UNP ? Did you install a body ? When you install Bodyslides you can chose wictch body you want to use, presently i am playing with UUNP (it's like UNP but with a great range of preset that i can use for a lot of body type)

 

From the picture of comrade Laura at the top left, it will be indicated Preset : You can chose the body you currently use in your game

 

I see from every people that post to you, are trying to be helpfull also not only me

 

Did you install bodyslide ? we could do it step by step if you want, just tell me what options did you install in devious integration

[nurso12]

Yeah some whaere trying to help, thats right not only you. I think writing a Step by Step guide for evryone is more helpful than youst me, so i dont waste your time with it. And yeah i am able to figure things out, once some things , like the fundamentels are explained. I am ust acting a little more stupid than i am to make a point. But since ithe people dont listen its their problem that they get bombarded with stupid questions.

[tuxagent7]

5 minutes ago, nurso12 said:

Yeah some whaere trying to help, thats right not only you. I think writing a Step by Step guide for evryone is more helpful than youst me, so i dont waste your time with it. And yeah i am able to figure things out, once some things , like the fundamentels are explained. I am ust acting a little more stupid than i am to make a point. But since ithe people dont listen its their problem that they get bombarded with stupid questions.

Ok then well good playing and if you have anymore question just ask

 

have a nice day

[Guest]

@nurso12

 

Can a mod give nurso a warning for possibly be the most toxic self entitled person I have ever seen.

 

"Anyhow if i do understand that correctly i have to do that for evry item and/or body? Wtf seriosly? Thanks but no thanks. I dont do the Mod Creators work."

 

If you click the magnifying glass near the group filter you can just select the group that all the files are in takes literally 1 min. Thanks but no thanks? Fine you have your answer stop bitching and uninstall the mod and the mod creators have put so much work into this to say its their job to make it easy for you that is so very rude to say.

 

"but it would be more helpful if it wasn't embedded in a Picture"

 

Laura goes out of her way to help you and you complain about the form in which it was given like.. i honestly hate you.

 

"You fall into the 5% category kimy don't care about, so it's a dead end for you. Sorry."

 

^ this quote from you explains it you're salty and nothing will satisfy you unless we cater exactly to your demands.. oh i mean "suggestions".

 

"someone like me who has sorvior medical Issues, who is handicapped, using Bodyslide isnt possible"

 

That is just a sorry excuse its not even funny.

 

"If i would create this Mod"

 

Yeah guess what? You didn't, you haven't contributed anything only thing you have contributed to is making people angry.

 

Nobody has to cater to you the people creating these mods aren't being paid to create this content and to release it too us for personal use is a huge privilege its not your RIGHT, BE HUMBLE!!!

[worik]

2 hours ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Spoiler

By the way, I just made this.

I hope this helps.

Best one-screen guide for BS that I've seen so far.

When - someday - LL features a section for quickguides - you should copy it there in the first place

[Kimy]

5 hours ago, nurso12 said:

Firstly I tried to help you see why people keep asking about it, because for someone like me who has sorvior medical Issues, who is handicapped, using Bodyslide isnt possible, So i hoped you would see that forcing someonne to use an clearly optional Tool is rather stupid, especially if it leads too more problems than it solves, because of this questiions will keep popping up.

 

 

What I objected to (and still do) isn't that you and some others were - for whatever reason - unable to correctly install Bodyslide. That's perfectly fine. It happens literally on a daily basis here. And what these people usually do is posting their problem here and ask for help. And...surprise...they get it. You can click through this thread and what you will find is a lot of helpful users patiently answering "Why is my stuff invisible?" for the umpteenth time.

 

That is NOT the problem. This is what this support thread is there for.

 

What IS the problem is that you blamed ME for your woes and attacked ME for adding a great feature to this mod that the vast majority of users appreciates and has not the slightest problem to use. I find this offensive and insulting. Not only towards me, but to everyone else who likes the feature in question. You acted as if I have an obligation to design this mod for YOUR needs, and I quite frankly don't.

[WaxenFigure]

 

1 hour ago, nurso12 said:

Yeah some whaere trying to help, thats right not only you. I think writing a Step by Step guide for evryone is more helpful than youst me, so i dont waste your time with it. And yeah i am able to figure things out, once some things , like the fundamentels are explained. I am ust acting a little more stupid than i am to make a point. But since ithe people dont listen its their problem that they get bombarded with stupid questions.

 

The information you need for Bodyslide is on the Bodyslide support thread where it belongs.  FNIS is also required for this mod just like Bodyslide but you don't seem to be wanting a replication of the instructions on how to use FNIS here as well.

 

That small logic fail aside I see the responses you've gotten have also included good help but here is an overview of Bodyslide which will hopefully you.

 

Bodyslide is a tool with multiple purposes. 

 

It's first purpose is to serve as a female body replacement, it can be used to create a body that can be used in game which exactly matches pretty much any of the multitude of bodies which were based on CBBE or UNP.  If there's something you don't like about the preset body you picked you can also use any or all of the sliders to adjust that imperfection to create the exact body shape which pleases you best.  The big white "BUILD" button at the center of the bottom of Bodyslide is how you create the body.

 

It's second purpose is to build clothing, armors and accessories that will fit the preset or custom body you built so they will best fit that body if the clothing, armor or accessories were made to be Bodyslide aware.  You can use the "Batch Build" button to build all of the Bodyslide aware items at once to fit your chosen preset or custom body. 

 

It's third purpose is to take clothing, armor and accessories that are not Bodyslide aware and make them aware.

 

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Now "Why Bodyslide"?

 

Face it, we humans are fickle creatures and while there may be a generally prevalent preference for stick thin women with large breasts as the ideal female body everyone actually has their own specific preferences and they range from Titanic sized breasts to flat as a board, stick thin legs to thunder-thighs, small tight asses to dual Hindenburg sized butts.

 

Bodyslide is a tool to allow people running the game to create their specific preferred body shape and then adjust the clothing, armor and accessories to match that preferred shape.

 

Before Bodyslide, putting on an item was to watch you player body be reshaped to match the preference of the person who created that item and the creators of those items were endlessly begged to create a version which fit body X, Y or Z or other creators would make additional versions of those items fitting those other bodies. 

 

With Bodyslide the creator only has to create it once and they can even ignore Bodyslide entirely since someone else will likely create the Bodyslide version of the item for them.

 

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One you get Bodyslide installed and are comfortable using it, you are going to find yourself looking for items that are Bodyslide capable just like the rest of us.

 

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Most importantly, we all understand frustration.  That is what you've been experiencing here lately and it tends to bring out our bad side, so later when you ask for help with something else just remember that we'll try to not remember that you hurt someone's feelings and still be helpful because we all share in the same passion: We all just want to have the game work well with fun stuff in it.

 

 

[Psalam]

5 hours ago, nurso12 said:

If i would create this Mod i would put three things in the 1. Post. 1. "Requirements:Bodyslide" 2."Installation:A short guide on how to use Bodyslide for Beginners."  3.FAQ:Q:How do i use Bodyslide to make my DD stuff visible? A:See the instruction in the Installation, and here are Links to some other GUides. Link" Such things would safe you a loooot of stupid QUestions like this and you wouldnt have to deal with people like me...

 

"Bodyslide isn't hard to use." That is totally subjective, so i cant even answer to that. Good for you?

"You don't have to be an artist to use it."  You dont have to, but it helps if u are atleast  able to see right i aussume. Like i said im handicapped. For example my Eyesight is less than 2%. SO stop saying how easy it is and give me solutions i can use?

You only need to install it and click and handfull of buttons. "I have opened in the Background inside my MO, i dont understand a lot of stuff , for example what are groups in Bodyslide, which of the 100+ Bodys i have to Modify, how do i actually do that, do i have to adjust evry of the round 50 sliders and what is the pupose of doing it anyhow, why would any of this make my Char visible again? I stop here, eventough there are a lot more questions, but i dont think you have the hours to explain this to me and evryone single handetly, thats why there not only should be, but more has to be an explanation in the first post.

Okay, how's this. When you are required to use Bodyslide use the tool to open it. It will come with a preset (the mod author's, of course). Go to the bottom left of the screen and hit "Batch Build." It will give you a checklist of all available groups of Bodyslide items (including but not limited to Devious Devices). Simply CHECK ALL BOXES. Then hit batch build and you are done. This solution limits what you can do with Bodyslide ridiculously but it is very simple.

[Veladarius]

Here is a quick and simple guide I made to use BodySlide to have it generate meshes, just the bare minimum necessary for anyone to be able to create DD items or any other BodySlide item. The guide contains images as well.

 

Beginners Guide to BodySlide.pdf

 

As a note, all official DD bodyslide items have either DDA or DDX at the start of the name of the item.

 

Anyone is free to share or post it elsewhere or put it up for download if they like it.

[korfio]

Hey guys, been trying on the 4.0 version for size and i've been having issues when wearing DD armbinders or yokes. All requirements are there, bodyslide and FNIS done and skeleton OK. I'm more or less experienced with the stuff by now. Nothing interesting in the papyrus log file, animations listed when loading save say "get".

 

I get t-pose on wearing the items. (xx04f18c for example). Belts work fine. Removing the item returns player to normal.

 

Is this a known bug or can I troubleshoot it somehow?

Thanks a lot.

 

 

[Lozeak]

Modder wise it's probably worth mentioning somewhere, you need the scripts from FNIS Sexy move to compile code because ZadboundCombat line 287 needs FNISSMConfigMenu.pex to compile. 

Since zadlibs will call Zadboundcombat you will not be able to do anything with DDI without the FNIS Sexy move scripts installed (esp not needed).

 

User wise it's not an issue though.

[LazyBoot]

2 hours ago, Lozeak said:

Modder wise it's probably worth mentioning somewhere, you need the scripts from FNIS Sexy move to compile code because ZadboundCombat line 287 needs FNISSMConfigMenu.pex to compile. 

Since zadlibs will call Zadboundcombat you will not be able to do anything with DDI without the FNIS Sexy move scripts installed (esp not needed).

 

User wise it's not an issue though.

My understanding is that this is because (like with pcea2) it needs to restart the correct idle after removing the bound animations.

[Amberyl]

I have installed DD Assets, DD Expansion and DD Integration...I have a black harness labeled "zbf dd harness 01",  I placed it on my slave the collar shows, and the ring below the collar and the rest of the harness does not show. 

Can anyone help me with this problem?

Thanks!

 

[Lozeak]

14 hours ago, LazyBoot said:

My understanding is that this is because (like with pcea2) it needs to restart the correct idle after removing the bound animations.

I have no problem with it needing FNISsexymove script (like just install FNIS sexy move and disable esp for game when modding). It may be worth mentioning somewhere on the main post under the modders title or in zadlibs psc so that newer modders know what they need to use DD. (that said they probably won't read it anyway and complain haha)

[SleepyJim]

1 hour ago, Amberyl said:

I have installed DD Assets, DD Expansion and DD Integration...I have a black harness labeled "zbf dd harness 01",  I placed it on my slave the collar shows, and the ring below the collar and the rest of the harness does not show. 

Can anyone help me with this problem?

Thanks!

That particular harness is from the zaz animation pack, not devious devices - although it does use the devious devices meshes and textures. If it's invisible it's likely that the actual devious harnesses will be as well, and probably this is down to one of two common reasons:

 

If the harness is invisible when you're wearing a main piece of armour or clothing it could be because the devious device hider is hiding it as it's designed to do. You can adjust which slots are hidden by main armour/clothing pieces in the Devices Underneath section of the devious devices mcm. (The device hider only applies to the player character, so if your problem is on npcs this won't be the answer.)

 

If the harness is invisible even when you're otherwise naked it's probably because you haven't successfully built its meshes in bodyslide, which is a requirement for most of the devices. If you haven't built their meshes, they won't exist.

[drlove33]

Hi just started using this mod,and I use black mage armor found on nexus,after installing however my character cannot equip his helmet i can use a circlet and a mask but not the helmet.If I un equip everything than put the helmet on it gives me a very big bald spot without the helmet showing up,though it says it's equiped, I looked through the mcm tabs about what is hidden but since I have never used this I thought maybe you could tell me how to fix without messing anything up,by hidden I mean the tab saying device hidden

[jlttsmiley]

What I use is this mod from the NEXUS to find what slot a certain armor is using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64976/

Then go into the DEVIOUS DEVICES MCM  DEVICES UNDERNEAT (1)    go down to BODY to see what slots are assign to be hidden if the armor has the same slots as a devious device change it or disable it in the DEVIOUS DEVICE MCM. Myself I just disable it by scrolling all the way to the top an checking none

[drlove33]

13 minutes ago, jlttsmiley said:

What I use is this mod from the NEXUS to find what slot a certain armor is using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64976/

Then go into the DEVIOUS DEVICES MCM  DEVICES UNDERNEAT (1)    go down to BODY to see what slots are assign to be hidden if the armor has the same slots as a devious device change it or disable it in the DEVIOUS DEVICE MCM. Myself I just disable it by scrolling all the way to the top an checking none

Thanks I am trying that now

[drlove33]

9 minutes ago, drlove33 said:

Thanks I am trying that now

My friend you just saved me hours of troubleshooting,thank you so much that did the trick no problem

[gm207]

Hello to the mod Author, I have just installed Devious Devices Integration and everything is good an all, but I really don't like the stance animation offered in mod and they are a mandatory to install, is there a way to disable them? I tried doing so in the MCM menu but it did not take effect, I really dont like or should I say not to my taste of having the stance animation in all the option and I would like to keep the ones I already have wish are Pretty female idle.

Please let me know if you would be able to help in that matter

Best regards, 

GM207 

[El_Duderino]

1 hour ago, gm207 said:

Hello to the mod Author, I have just installed Devious Devices Integration and everything is good an all, but I really don't like the stance animation

I presume you are talking about the (idle/walk/run/sneak) animations that play when the character's wrists are bound or when wearing a hobble dress? If so, then there is no way way these can be disabled, they are an integral part of the mod as without them the arms would not be held in position when bound. However, there are four different sets of bound character anims available in the installer, maybe you'll like one of them better than another? Also, the character's idle and movement anims should reset to the original ones as soon as you unequip the armbinder, yoke or whatever is binding your hands.

[gm207]

3 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

I presume you are talking about the (idle/walk/run/sneak) animations that play when the character's wrists are bound or when wearing a hobble dress? If so, then there is no way way these can be disabled, they are an integral part of the mod as without them the arms would not be held in position when bound. However, there are four different sets of bound character anims available in the installer, maybe you'll like one of them better than another? Also, the character's idle and movement anims should reset to the original ones as soon as you unequip the armbinder, yoke or whatever is binding your hands.

You got it right yes, I tried them all and all stances don't seem to be very submissive stances, they seem to me kind of macho legs slightly spread stances, that alone is not role play immersive for me but thats just my opinion, I was just asking if there was a way around it

[shadowwolf2k7]

i have found a way to show belts and harnesses while wearing some armors, though it does require 1 of 2 things. either removing the helmet completely or using the helmet hiding mod from the nexus. when i use the helmet toggle from the helmet hiding mod, it causes the belts and harnesses to show up while hiding the helmet. not sure if that the belt and lower part of the harness is linked to the head slot in some way but when a helmet isnt show, due to either not wearing one or hiding it the belt and harness shows up.