Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[vocal]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

If the slower curse bothers enough people I might try and get to go the same speed it did before, but that'll be a major pain in my ass.

 

 

I have no problems with it. Having it on a hour basis opens up a lot of possibilities for other stuff to be added in-between.

 

The different ways certain priests help you deal with the bimbo corruption also caught me by surprise. Well played

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

Geez you've been working on this a lot. Some advice from a fellow mod maker, don't be afraid to take breaks now and again. You'll get burned out eventually if you don't.

I've got to agree there. Don't take on too much and pace yourself.

[brewmasterhal]

Has there been any discussion of integration with Public Whore?  Being a Bimbo could provide some more interesting ways of becoming a PW.

 

If the player is not a PW (not eligible) in any location and gains the Bimbo curse, you could add a few new Bimbo NPCs in a couple cities that are PWs.  Talking to any of them about what they're doing could trigger some Bimbo thoughts about it.

 

If the player is not currently a PW and gains the curse, as the curse progresses and the player has thoughts or interactions with NPCs, they could steer her toward becoming a PW.

 

Once the player's Bimbo-fication is complete, add a quest objective to go and volunteer to become a PW or simply use the captured-by-guards system built into PW to trigger a volunteering scene.

 

If the player is a current PW and not a Bimbo, the curse could be added as a new form of punishment.

 

I have not looked closely at the PW framework in a while, so off the top of my head I'm not sure how hard it would be to call some of these functions in the PW code.  Once the holidays are over - if no one has already done it - I might try creating a small BoS/PW integration patch.

[ebbluminous]

On SE the YPS seems to not be working.

 

With it ticked, nothing happens at stages such as make up or changing hair. Unticked the default bimbo mod stuff kicks in

[jib_buttkiss]

7 hours ago, bubba999 said:

Did a quick check and Lyli Battleborn is bald too.

Odd. Does Botox SE not have that hair or something?

 

Is anyone else using the Botox NPCs in SE having the same problem?

 

6 hours ago, Balgin said:

100% Twice between getting the fuzzy thoughts message and the first dream a handful of days later. I don't mind the slower curse but I was interested to see what had changed. Finally got nailpolish now.

 

Some mods like Submissive Lola that use similar thoughts give us a .json so that we can add additional custom lines of our own. Obviously that's more work but it might be worth looking into.

 

I'll check on that. I suspect something went wrong somewhere but if it does seem to be related to this mod then I'll report it when I've got something worth reporting.

Ok, knowing the "blonde" message turned up early for sure means I know exactly where to go to fix it, thanks.

 

Yeah JSON-ifiying the thoughts is on my long term todo list. Don't expect it any time soon, but I'll probably do it eventually.

 

The reason I say that  I've got no clue how a tattoo could apply on sex from this mod is that the onSex() event only does two things: 1)increase corruption if rape, 2)display bimbo thought notification if bimbo. If it's somehow triggering a slavetat I'll be... well, impressed, more than anything else.

 

6 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

Geez you've been working on this a lot. Some advice from a fellow mod maker, don't be afraid to take breaks now and again. You'll get burned out eventually if you don't.

Thanks. Yeah, I'm pretty happy with where the mod's at for now. Once the bugs in this version are ironed out there's definitely not going to be anything new for a while.

 

2 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

Has there been any discussion of integration with Public Whore?  Being a Bimbo could provide some more interesting ways of becoming a PW.

 

If the player is not a PW (not eligible) in any location and gains the Bimbo curse, you could add a few new Bimbo NPCs in a couple cities that are PWs.  Talking to any of them about what they're doing could trigger some Bimbo thoughts about it.

 

If the player is not currently a PW and gains the curse, as the curse progresses and the player has thoughts or interactions with NPCs, they could steer her toward becoming a PW.

 

Once the player's Bimbo-fication is complete, add a quest objective to go and volunteer to become a PW or simply use the captured-by-guards system built into PW to trigger a volunteering scene.

 

If the player is a current PW and not a Bimbo, the curse could be added as a new form of punishment.

 

I have not looked closely at the PW framework in a while, so off the top of my head I'm not sure how hard it would be to call some of these functions in the PW code.  Once the holidays are over - if no one has already done it - I might try creating a small BoS/PW integration patch.

I've never used or ever even looked at PW, so there's no patch coming from me. If you do end up making one, make sure to post it here!

 

2 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

On SE the YPS seems to not be working.

 

With it ticked, nothing happens at stages such as make up or changing hair. Unticked the default bimbo mod stuff kicks in

Hmm. Before I start ripping my hair out looking into this, is else having the same problem? The fact that disabling integration makes the default events come back means that YPS is being detected, but it's events aren't triggering...

Edited November 29, 2022 by jib_buttkiss

[Naps-On-Dirt]

On 11/7/2022 at 12:02 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

If you don’t like the default starting conditions (under -10 SL Purity stat, over 50 SL sex count)

 

Recently started a new game and decided to let the Bimbo curse manifest naturally on Lydia this time instead of making her read the book.  But I'm not sure that her Sexlab Purity is "progressing" downward at all...  my player character is at about 33% along in the curse process and SL shows her Purity & Perversion to be Neutral / Experimenting, whereas Lydia is Virtuous / Promiscuous.  It is to be expected that the player is further along than she is, and I don't know what those labels translate as to the sexlab numbers, but it doesn't seem that Lydia is losing any purity.  For reference, the "activities" that are affecting these stats are combat defeat rapes from SL Defeat, and proximity rapes from SL Adventures (which can be from 1 to many participants, and Lydia usually has been getting more of them than the player character.)

[sissylover19]

does the bimbofication work with mods that alter the facial structure such as high poly heads?

[joeyjoejoejrshabadoo]

FYI: I'm not seeing the "Makeover!" power anywhere after the bimbo hair appears. Can't change it, can't get rid of it for YPS....

[jib_buttkiss]

2 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

 

Recently started a new game and decided to let the Bimbo curse manifest naturally on Lydia this time instead of making her read the book.  But I'm not sure that her Sexlab Purity is "progressing" downward at all...  my player character is at about 33% along in the curse process and SL shows her Purity & Perversion to be Neutral / Experimenting, whereas Lydia is Virtuous / Promiscuous.  It is to be expected that the player is further along than she is, and I don't know what those labels translate as to the sexlab numbers, but it doesn't seem that Lydia is losing any purity.  For reference, the "activities" that are affecting these stats are combat defeat rapes from SL Defeat, and proximity rapes from SL Adventures (which can be from 1 to many participants, and Lydia usually has been getting more of them than the player character.)

Yeah, that's a problem with SexLab- it seeds base sex stats weirdly high sometimes, and then depending on your mod setup they can take forever to change. I'll add the follower bimbofication thresholds to the MCM, the only reason I haven't already is that I sort of forgot.

 

 

1 hour ago, theanarchistotaku said:

does the bimbofication work with mods that alter the facial structure such as high poly heads?

It doesn't alter facial structure, only body morphs and slavetats so it should be fine.

 

1 hour ago, joeyjoejoejrshabadoo said:

FYI: I'm not seeing the "Makeover!" power anywhere after the bimbo hair appears. Can't change it, can't get rid of it for YPS....

Odd. That was working for me. If you type "help makeover" into the console you can game.addspell XXXXXXX the ID of the Makeover! power to get it for now. Mind you, if you've got YPS it shouldn't put a wig on you anyway, it should YPS grow your hair, so that's already a bit of a concern.

 

Has that happened for anyone else? "Makeover!" not getting added?

 

[Balgin]

Interestingly a lot of SE players have problems getting YPS to work. They tend to turn up in the LE thread asking for help. Usually it's the same thing, hair/makeup changes not showing up. I'm not sure if it's a common load order issue or a conflict with a popular SE mod as I personally haven't touched SE since it wanted me to make a multiplayer account on some website to be able to pick and choose which mods I wanted to use in a singleplayer game.

[Saviorsrd]

1 hour ago, Balgin said:

Interestingly a lot of SE players have problems getting YPS to work. They tend to turn up in the LE thread asking for help. Usually it's the same thing, hair/makeup changes not showing up. I'm not sure if it's a common load order issue or a conflict with a popular SE mod as I personally haven't touched SE since it wanted me to make a multiplayer account on some website to be able to pick and choose which mods I wanted to use in a singleplayer game.

The irony being that it never actually required that.  The SE "Mods" menu is a pretty blatant example of Dark Design - the only thing that menu is good for is downloading paid mods, but they go out of their way to imply you should really be using it for everything and I'm pretty sure the UI is tweaked to make sure you accidentally click on it.  Mod use in SE is the same as always, and yes, there's a mod to get rid of the "Mods" menu item.

[Balgin]

14 minutes ago, Saviorsrd said:

The irony being that it never actually required that.  The SE "Mods" menu is a pretty blatant example of Dark Design - the only thing that menu is good for is downloading paid mods, but they go out of their way to imply you should really be using it for everything and I'm pretty sure the UI is tweaked to make sure you accidentally click on it.  Mod use in SE is the same as always, and yes, there's a mod to get rid of the "Mods" menu item.

Thanks. I know that now but, at the time, I was pissed off at them trying to shoe horn in paid mods and most of my favourite mods hadn't been updated to SE (and I didn't need to have two separate installs eating up space on my hard drive). It means I don't need to worry about accidentally losing SE for this new Anniversay Edition automatic update that a lot of people were concerned about recently either.

[pnutz78]

ok, so my bimbo corruption score is at 135% and nothing happens other then getting little text pop ups thinking about dick and that I am a good girl. No special conversation options with NPCs not getting approached by NPCs. YPS is fully installed with all dependencies and hairgrowth seems to work but no event is happening either. Am I doing anything wrong? What is supposed to happen? How can I tell if the curse is "active"?

[Michele Magus]

Hopefully folks on SE are using this YPS made for SE rather than the LE version of YPS.
It is a make or break diffference.
YPS needs a good bit of tuning as well once installed and the MCM menu appears. Be sure to turn on the setting to let YPS control the hairstyle as well to make the hair controls available.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Michele Magus

[foreveraloneguy]

16 minutes ago, Michele Magus said:

Hopefully folks on SE are using this YPS made for SE rather than the LE version of YPS.
It is a make or break diffference.
YPS needs a good bit of tuning as well once installed and the MCM menu appears. Be sure to turn on the setting to let YPS control the hairstyle as well to make the hair controls available.

 

It's not merely that. I'm one of the people that see inconsistent behavior from YPS using the SE version. I've even gone so far as to recompile against all the latest versions of dependencies to make sure that there were no obvious script errors. It works sometimes, not others, or sometimes makeup will disappear after a load. There's also YPS Tweaks that you can install over the base YPS mod, but it only seems to improve things slightly. I finally gave up on YPS once I realized there really wasn't anything I could do in YPS that I couldn't do in racemenu since the one "quest" in the mod is incomplete. And there are other mods with a similar quest that are complete.

[joeyjoejoejrshabadoo]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah, that's a problem with SexLab- it seeds base sex stats weirdly high sometimes, and then depending on your mod setup they can take forever to change. I'll add the follower bimbofication thresholds to the MCM, the only reason I haven't already is that I sort of forgot.

 

 

It doesn't alter facial structure, only body morphs and slavetats so it should be fine.

 

Odd. That was working for me. If you type "help makeover" into the console you can game.addspell XXXXXXX the ID of the Makeover! power to get it for now. Mind you, if you've got YPS it shouldn't put a wig on you anyway, it should YPS grow your hair, so that's already a bit of a concern.

 

Has that happened for anyone else? "Makeover!" not getting added?

 

I tried searching it through help, didn’t find anything related to your mod - only YPS’ Hair Makeover orb.

 

Also, I had to use console commands to start the Lyvelia quest - couldn’t get her to proc her dialogue.

 

With that said, I love this mod. I feel like it has a simpler take on it than Hormones, and it can be used in conjunction with it if desired - like getting zapped into womanhood and then bimbotized with your mod. Appreciate your efforts. ?

 

With that said, it’d be cool if one of Lyvelia’s quest outcomes could end up with you and her being bimbo twins - getting zapped together at the same time after all….

[ebbluminous]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm. Before I start ripping my hair out looking into this, is else having the same problem? The fact that disabling integration makes the default events come back means that YPS is being detected, but it's events aren't triggering...

To clarify as well - I was using setstage to go through each stage one at a time, but don't think this would mess with YPS?

[ebbluminous]

48 minutes ago, Michele Magus said:

Hopefully folks on SE are using this YPS made for SE rather than the LE version of YPS.
It is a make or break diffference.
YPS needs a good bit of tuning as well once installed and the MCM menu appears. Be sure to turn on the setting to let YPS control the hairstyle as well to make the hair controls available.

Yep, got the SE YPS, been using it for sometime with no troubles.

[pnutz78]

How can you tell in LE that the Bimbo curse is actually running? Other than these little bimbo thought pop ups nothing is happening for me at all.....Again I am using YPS for LE and as far as I can tell it is running as expected.

[Taloren3000]

Hello. My Dovakin is male. Questions:
1. Is this mod only for those who have a female Dovakin?
2. I have an author's NPC body replcer (not CBBE, not UNP), will this mod work correctly for NPCs with an author's body?

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, Taloren3000 said:

Hello. My Dovakin is male. Questions:
1. Is this mod only for those who have a female Dovakin?
2. I have an author's NPC body replcer (not CBBE, not UNP), will this mod work correctly for NPCs with an author's body?

Depends... NPC bimbos will be for male/female pc, pc bimbo female pc only

[Balgin]

How does anyone get over 247% bimbo corruption level? I've managed to get 248% twice but it seems to keep degrading about 30 points a day. Also is that a corruption speed or total corruption (as in 100% is a corruption level or something)?

Edited November 29, 2022 by Balgin

[Herowynne]

Using the SE version, SSEEdit shows a few errors:

Spoiler

[00:00] Start: Checking for Errors
[00:00] Checking for Errors in [78] CustomComments.esp
[00:00] [INFO:781DE33E] ('Whaaat? Really? Boring plain hair? Whhhyyyy? I wanna be blonde and pretty! Awww, if you say so...' in GRUP Topic Children of CC_BimbofyFollower_Hair_None "Don't style it. Leave your hair totally normal." [DIAL:781DE33D])
[00:00]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [781DE33F] < Error: Could not be resolved >
[00:00] [INFO:78206BB9] ('Oh, that's so nice of you! I'm sure I'll find some way to repay you! Here, I'll show you the cave on your map...' in GRUP Topic Children of CC_TavernWhoreDialogues_BSQuest4Yes "I could go look for you." [DIAL:78206BB8])
[00:00]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "CC_TavernWhoreDialogues [QUST:781E344B]">
[00:00] [INFO:78206BC2] ('Ooh! Pass it here, let's have a look!' in GRUP Topic Children of CC_TavernWhoreDialogues_BSQuestFinish1 "I found this diary in Crystaldrift cave. It could be yours." [DIAL:78206BC1])
[00:00]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "CC_TavernWhoreDialogues [QUST:781E344B]">
[00:00]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "CC_TavernWhoreDialogues [QUST:781E344B]">
[00:00] CC_BimbofyPlayerNewBranch0 [DLBR:78303FC3]
[00:00]     DLBR \ SNAM - Starting Topic -> Found a NULL reference, expected: DIAL
[00:00] Done: Checking for Errors, Processed Records: 1523, Errors found: 4, Elapsed Time: 00:00
 

 

[jib_buttkiss]

7 hours ago, pnutz78 said:

ok, so my bimbo corruption score is at 135% and nothing happens other then getting little text pop ups thinking about dick and that I am a good girl. No special conversation options with NPCs not getting approached by NPCs. YPS is fully installed with all dependencies and hairgrowth seems to work but no event is happening either. Am I doing anything wrong? What is supposed to happen? How can I tell if the curse is "active"?

 

6 hours ago, pnutz78 said:

How can you tell in LE that the Bimbo curse is actually running? Other than these little bimbo thought pop ups nothing is happening for me at all.....Again I am using YPS for LE and as far as I can tell it is running as expected.

 

You won't start getting approached by NPCs or anything major until fully bimbofied. You can type getstage CC_BimbofyPlayer into the console to see what level your bimbo curse is at: is starts to 20, and advances by 10 each level until 160 (except for in the 80s, where it goes 80>85>87>90. Whoops). Each stage after 20 will display a message and have some effect on your character (slavetats/YPS, clothes changes, body morphs, etc).

 

If you really want a granular look, type sqv CC_BimbofyPlayer and use PgUp to scroll up to the variable hoursSinceLastBimboAdvance. This variable counts up once an hour, and when it hits 24, it resets to 0 the curse advances a stage. If you think the curse isn't progressing, check this variable's value, wait for 1 hour a few times, then check it again. If it changes, you're progressing just fine.

 

6 hours ago, joeyjoejoejrshabadoo said:

I tried searching it through help, didn’t find anything related to your mod - only YPS’ Hair Makeover orb.

 

Also, I had to use console commands to start the Lyvelia quest - couldn’t get her to proc her dialogue.

 

With that said, I love this mod. I feel like it has a simpler take on it than Hormones, and it can be used in conjunction with it if desired - like getting zapped into womanhood and then bimbotized with your mod. Appreciate your efforts. ?

 

With that said, it’d be cool if one of Lyvelia’s quest outcomes could end up with you and her being bimbo twins - getting zapped together at the same time after all….

If you type help Makeover into the console you'll see a few items from this mod (a MGEF, two MSSGs and a SPEL). You want the SPEL. They can't not appear, they're in the ESP. Are you using the latest version (1.3.2)?

 

6 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

To clarify as well - I was using setstage to go through each stage one at a time, but don't think this would mess with YPS?

It might mess with the time that handles progression naturally, but that doesn't interact with YPS. Just as a sanity check, do you have all the functions of YPS enabled in it's MCM? I nearly threw my computer out window trying to get hair growing to work before I realised that I had it turned off on YPS's end.
 

 

5 hours ago, Taloren3000 said:

Hello. My Dovakin is male. Questions:
1. Is this mod only for those who have a female Dovakin?
2. I have an author's NPC body replcer (not CBBE, not UNP), will this mod work correctly for NPCs with an author's body?

The bimbofication functions don't work on male actors (players or NPCs). You can play as as male and have a bimbofied follower, meet the other bimbos in the world and use the hypnosis functions, but you won't get bimbofied yourself.

 

If you use a custom body, the only risk is that body morphs (probably) won't apply, and the Slavetats used in bimbofication might be distorted.

3 hours ago, Balgin said:

How does anyone get over 247% bimbo corruption level? I've managed to get 248% twice but it seems to keep degrading about 30 points a day. Also is that a corruption speed or total corruption (as in 100% is a corruption level or something)?

Well that's... weird. Corruption should work like this:

 

> you encounter a source of corruption (rape, Lyvelia, whatever)

> it increases your corruption score by an amount (depending on what the source is. Rape's a little, Anaita's note's a lot)

> if this increase puts your corruption score over 100, a relevant message box displays and the player bimbo curse starts

 

That's all. There's nothing in place to reduce your corruption other than paying a priest, it should never decrease naturally. Once it's over 100, the bimbo curse should trigger and then your corruption is irrelevant.

 

At ~250% corruption, have you already been bimbofied?

 

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

It might mess with the time that handles progression naturally, but that doesn't interact with YPS. Just as a sanity check, do you have all the functions of YPS enabled in it's MCM? I nearly threw my computer out window trying to get hair growing to work before I realised that I had it turned off on YPS's end

 

Yeah YPS is all good for me and nails, makeup, hair working when using the mod direct - nail polish, getting hair done by NPCs etc