windu190 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 SJ? Straight Jacket Like so: Never been a huge fan of straight jackets personally, covers to much up. Something like the below is more my taste. Same level of restraint with so much more access. This is still my favorite restraint of all. I wanted something like this since Oblivion. A few of them were made, but they were always animations, not actual gear you can walk around in.
KomradePavlov Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Never been a huge fan of straight jackets personally, covers to much up. Something like the below is more my taste. Same level of restraint with so much more access. I like them because of the fact that they seem more definite. Sure steel restraints do that too, but I don't like forcing someone into an immobile position... unless its one of those X-stands or a pilleroy. ... IE: If I had a choice, I'd rather put someone in a SJ than a steal restraint.
Veladarius Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Never been a huge fan of straight jackets personally, covers to much up. Something like the below is more my taste. Same level of restraint with so much more access. I like them because of the fact that they seem more definite. Sure steel restraints do that too, but I don't like forcing someone into an immobile position... unless its one of those X-stands or a pilleroy. ... IE: If I had a choice, I'd rather put someone in a SJ than a steal restraint. You can get the same level of restraint as a jacket with a set of bondage mittens that go past the elbow and some straps. Put the arms in the same position as the strait jacket (forearms together with hands to opposite elbows), put a set of straps around forearms, a set from ends of the mittens around the back and another between the upper arms at the top of the mittens across the front. The arms could be held the same way behind the back and it does not cover much. If the mittens are made right most of the straps are not needed, they just buckle together.
KomradePavlov Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 You can get the same level of restraint as a jacket with a set of bondage mittens that go past the elbow and some straps. Put the arms in the same position as the strait jacket (forearms together with hands to opposite elbows), put a set of straps around forearms, a set from ends of the mittens around the back and another between the upper arms at the top of the mittens across the front. The arms could be held the same way behind the back and it does not cover much. If the mittens are made right most of the straps are not needed, they just buckle together. Eh, still prefer the whole jacket, with the arms under the breasts secured with a strap that's attached to the SJ... or a Bolero-style one [the type of SJ that has an open chest]
pinky6225 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Never been a huge fan of straight jackets personally, covers to much up. Something like the below is more my taste. Same level of restraint with so much more access. I like them because of the fact that they seem more definite. Sure steel restraints do that too, but I don't like forcing someone into an immobile position... unless its one of those X-stands or a pilleroy. ... IE: If I had a choice, I'd rather put someone in a SJ than a steal restraint. You can get the same level of restraint as a jacket with a set of bondage mittens that go past the elbow and some straps. Put the arms in the same position as the strait jacket (forearms together with hands to opposite elbows), put a set of straps around forearms, a set from ends of the mittens around the back and another between the upper arms at the top of the mittens across the front. The arms could be held the same way behind the back and it does not cover much. If the mittens are made right most of the straps are not needed, they just buckle together. Each to there own (its all good as long as its between consenting adults) but personnally i don't like things that cover the hands as i get a bit paranoid about circulation (in my experience people will say they are fine/happy as they are enjoying what you are doing elsewhere when they are not so being able to see for yourself and check is better - may lead to arguments tho) so i prefer stuff that keeps appendages in sight. Also these do look so cute and there pink
zenetx Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Hi folks! No bugs, No suggestion post today. I just like to thank all the DD family (that is bigger every day) for all this great work. It is with pleasure that not long ago I realized the contribution/tribute of veteran bdsm writers, but now there is also art works of great artists with obvious influences of DD mods all over the internet!! Congratulations guys! I just hope you feel that your work is really appreciated. Thank you all.
Zadil Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 Status update And today's topics are... Straight jackets:It seems that there has been some talk about a straight jacket lately, but please note that as with any new piece of equipment there is little point working on one if there are no idles to support it. And let's not forget the effort that creating an item like that would require... The latest Poll: It's gone. This is not due to a specific user reaction or to 'punish' the community in any way, but one of the reasons is that the results usually end up pretty much tied anyways (seriously, how to you guys do that? It's uncanny), so there simply isn't much point to having it, although the results of the poll up to this point have not gone unnoticed. There may (or may not) be other polls in the future but probably not on a routine basis. Incompatibilities: The next update of the Assets pack won't support UNPB anymore. That decision is final, done, settled, no point arguing about it. Doesn't CBBE suddenly seem much more attractive? Help me please, i'm really clueless. When i install only DD-Assets and Integration and the required mods the armbinder works, but after updating my modlist to my usual other mods i get ctd as soon as i try to equip the armbinder. Try without xo3dBondageFurniture.esp=1 since that caused me to crash on armbinder as well. Interesting. I'll mention that in the readme. Cuteness: Each to there own (its all good as long as its between consenting adults) but personnally i don't like things that cover the hands as i get a bit paranoid about circulation (in my experience people will say they are fine/happy as they are enjoying what you are doing elsewhere when they are not so being able to see for yourself and check is better - may lead to arguments tho) so i prefer stuff that keeps appendages in sight. Also these do look so cute and there pink Heh, those don't exactly fit the theme of the mod, even though they sure fit your name. Foreign Languages: why this mod never can play??????????????? always CTD mod install not good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! always look dependency Family matters: Hi folks! No bugs, No suggestion post today. I just like to thank all the DD family (that is bigger every day) for all this great work. It is with pleasure that not long ago I realized the contribution/tribute of veteran bdsm writers, but now there is also art works of great artists with obvious influences of DD mods all over the internet!! Congratulations guys! I just hope you feel that your work is really appreciated. Thank you all. I'm sure I speak for all of the guys if I say that you're welcome zenetx. But, um... DD artworks all over the internet? Have I been away for that long? I'd be psyched to see that for myself. Do you happen to have any links?
GaiusTerminus Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Incompatibilities: The next update of the Assets pack won't support UNPB anymore. That decision is final, done, settled, no point arguing about it. Doesn't CBBE suddenly seem much more attractive? No, it means I can't use this mod anymore. Which is a massive shame, as it was pretty much my new favorite and the only reason I have sexlab installed.
sapho888 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 While I love the work that you and the other DD mods do, I must admit that the announcement about discontinuing support for UNPB has definitely thrown some cold water on my eagerness for the next update
srayesmanll Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Incompatibilities: The next update of the Assets pack won't support UNPB anymore. That decision is final, done, settled, no point arguing about it. Doesn't CBBE suddenly seem much more attractive? No, it means I can't use this mod anymore. Which is a massive shame, as it was pretty much my new favorite and the only reason I have sexlab installed. Before abandoning the mod, take a look at this: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25180-unofficial-bodyslide-2outfit-studio-tutorials/ . I used this to convert some of the models within DD-Assets (and Skyrim Strapons) to fit the ADEC body. Take a look at Tutorial 3. It really was very simple to do. Took about 1.5 hrs to convert the items I did (4 strapons, most of the cuffs, etc) Then I took the conversions, packaged them up and use NMM (MO/WB should work as well) to overwrite the DD-A meshes with my converted ones. Worked like a charm. Some things I did not convert for various reason (not sure how to convert the armbinder, but for me that's not an item I ever used so I never actually tried). Again, it was simple to modify the cuffs, etc to fit the ADEC body.
Min Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Foreign Languages: why this mod never can play??????????????? always CTD mod install not good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! always look dependency Hahaha.
ragindude Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 The next update of the Assets pack won't support UNPB anymore. That decision is final, done, settled, no point arguing about it. Doesn't CBBE suddenly seem much more attractive? Oh shit...
Nalessa Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So basically all unpb users are now royally screwed for every future dd integration update? Since dd integration itself requires dd assets. And seeing as I have a bunch of other unp related mods a good portion of them not having a cbbe conversion, I'm not switching to cbbe so this really sucks ...
Min Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So basically all unpb users are now royally screwed for every future dd integration update? Since dd integration itself requires dd assets. And seeing as I have a bunch of other unp related mods a good portion of them not having a cbbe conversion, I'm not switching to cbbe so this really sucks ... Royally screwed? Not at all. You will have items that don't fit properly until someone releases a unp conversion, though. 2.7.0 will include quite a bit of new content. Should be fun!
ragindude Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So basically all unpb users are now royally screwed for every future dd integration update? Since dd integration itself requires dd assets. And seeing as I have a bunch of other unp related mods a good portion of them not having a cbbe conversion, I'm not switching to cbbe so this really sucks ... Have no fear, we have an army of dedicated fans who will convert everything in a heartbeat!
Leeeeeroy Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 well, i think it's time to learn how to convert stuff from CBBE to UNPB, shouldn't be that hard
Coopervane Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Have no fear, we have an army of dedicated fans who will convert everything in a heartbeat! I hope that's true, i really do, the DD mods are without question my favorite mods, and i really don't want this to end. Best of luck Zadil and Min, and all the rest, i have really enjoyed the mod so far, and hopefully i will again at some point. Thank you for the work you've done, sincerely, it's been great while it lasted. Wow i am depressed right now, i need a stiff drink pronto
Aelie Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 you realize that its not like it will cease to work next update... you'll just have a little clipping on the new items. most or all of the current gear is already converted
Nalessa Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Oh phew, that's good to hear, would be a real shame if it wouldn't work anymore, glad to hear that it still will.
amandul Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I have changed to cbbe several times, but never got the hang on it. In the end I have always returned to Unpb.
Zadil Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 As other people have already mentioned, using the cbbe version with UNPB won't cause any catastrophic game failures - most meshes simply won't fit perfectly anymore. The current UNPB version will continue to be available as a download for legacy reasons at least for a little while longer but some aspects (namely the gags) may not work correctly when used with future versions of the Integration or other DD mods. As for the reason why unpb support will be discontinued: I simply don't have the time to create and maintain items for multiple bodies anymore, so it was either that or letting the project die completely - and I think a lot of people here would prefer the alternative, although I do hope that an unofficial unpb conversion will pop up eventually. A previous poll indicated that both bodies are similarly popular among DD users so I chose to go ahead with CBBE due to personal preference and recent advancements regarding it
Aelie Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So...what won? nothing 'won'. Zadil said it was so close that hes just going to do what he wants
Mdy Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Status update And today's topics are... [...] won't support UNPB anymore ... Doesn't CBBE suddenly seem much more attractive? [...] Yeah, well.. no, not for me and never will be. Where's the argument? I'm using unpb with hdt tbbp+preg in bodyslide2 and outfit studio. Doesn't unp bodies (unp, unpb, 7b, CNHF) look much more attractive than CBBE overall?
Aelie Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Doesn't unp bodies (unp, unpb, 7b) seem to be much more attractive than CBBE in general? i picked CBBE initially because it seemed to have the most mods that support it out of the box, and i still believe this to be true now. (*takes chance to plug http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25259 *) (7b seems to be making quite the effort though) and there are pregnant mods for cbbe as well, if you went looking for them. and as an obvious point, now devious devices will be cbbe only until someone else decides to convert and share them. in my experience, there are very very few mods that support UNP without also supporting CBBE as well, so really, in purely compatibility terms, cbbe is the clear winner. If you're really attached to how you look as UNP you could look for a bodyslide preset that looks similar to UNP (i think there is a default in bodyslide that is supposed to simulate unp) or you could go with something like this: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37546 which changes your body shape to match whatever the armor youre wearing requires. the bottom line though, is zadil doesnt have time to do all his work twice to keep UNP support going, so this is the way its got to be.
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