Min Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 There's an awful lot of doom and gloom in this thread: Lighten up, folks. It's pretty likely given our userbase, that someone will release a port to UNPB. Remember: This mod is a hobby-project that we're doing in our spare time. No one's being paid for this. If an author doesn't feel motivated / doesn't have time to work on a particular feature, that's his/her perogative. Goodbye to UNPB and hello to cancer. It seems I'm currently too much into Skyrim and am ..frustrated(?) about the lack of unp-love. Pardon me if I've been too abrasive, thanks for taking part in the discussion and we'll see, maybe your words were helpful. edit And of course you're right with "matter of opinion". you realize that its not like it will cease to work next update... you'll just have a little clipping on the new items. most or all of the current gear is already converted It's not that simple, and for 3 main reasons. 1. The clipping will not be minor, not at all, the CBBE and UNP meshes are drastically different. Mods will use the new items, and they lock in place, so the fact that it'll look really broken.. it's going to be very hard to ignore. 2. Conversions are not garuenteed. Well crafted ones even less so. 3. This is not just about DDA and DDI anymore, they are now a framework, and they are likely the framework that we can expect any and all future BDSM themed Skyrim mods to use from now on (why woulden't they?). And since the framework now only supports CBBE, what do you think mods created for it will do? They will do what you just annouced you'll do with LADL. So yeah, all those of us who have waited years for this kind of mod to finally happen for Skyrim, and who just can't stomache the very extreme aesthetic choice that is CBBE.. this could very easilly be the final nail in the coffin that kills any chance of us ever getting to play and enjoy such a mod, and we know it. And now i feel even more depressed, great, just bloody great If the three of you feel that strongly about it, why not contribute, and port them over to UNP yourselves? new items? so we can expect multiple new items for the future update? and yeah i agree, he must do what pleases him, his work is great and i don't really mind learning how to convert stuff from one body to another, it's pretty good to know this kind of stuff actually If you do decide to port them, let me know: Could get you a beta of the assets early for conversion. PM me if you're interested.
Coopervane Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 And if an armor does not support bodyslide? Which is probably the case for the vast majority of all CBBE armors (and will also be the case for the DD assets), as the body has been around for years, and bodyslide much less so (i had a quick look at the nexus, only one page found for "bodyslide", and a lot of it sadly also required BBP which i do not want, as it doesen't work with DD and that would defeat the entire point).
Aelie Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 And if an armor does not support bodyslide? it depends on the armor of course, but there should be bodyslide variations of all of the vanilla armors -- it also is a pretty quick process to body slide enable an already cbbe armor to use bodyslide anyhow, give me some examples of armors you want to use (and will also be the case for the DD assets) i linked body slide DD assets above and a lot of it sadly also required BBP any BBP enabled armor can be used without BBP just by not installing a bbp body/skeleton, it should work exactly the same unless the author has done something really off the wall as the body has been around for years, and bodyslide much less so CBBE: dec 2011 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2666/? Bodyslide 1.0: march 2012 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11920/? Bodyslide++: march 2013 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32731/? Bodyslide 2.0 + Outfit studio: Dec 2013 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015/? this said, with the addition of outfit studio, adding slider support for armors is really easy and quick, and once you get it down it takes just a minute or two to create the files based on the *_1.nif
Aelie Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I agree, instead of moaning about what has already been decided, we should embrace the idea, and support Zadil's decision. Plus hey, we should get updates much faster due to the focus on one body! (Can you please delete parts of a gigantic quote that arent relevant to your reply so we dont end up with gigantic ladder reply posts?)
Coopervane Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 If the three of you feel that strongly about it, why not contribute, and port them over to UNP yourselves? Because i'm not a 3D guy, and considdering how absolutely awfull i was at it when i tried, i'm quite certain i never will be. It's best to play to your streangths rather than your weaknesses, and all that.. And it also does not really solve the framework issue. If the framework does not officially support UNP, then why should any mod for that framework do so? What's the incentive for them to design with it in mind? So it becomes a little more complex than just converting the DD Assets to UNP. If it ends up meaning that using said conversions will break support for all the other content that exists for the framework, then you're really just painting yourself into a corner by using them. Also, considdering that almost 50% of the user base voted for UNP in that poll a while ago, it should come as no suprice that there would be some discussion of the issue when telling them that you're about to cut off their service, and that it woulden't be all smiles and cheers. It's to be expected, and i don't think it's a bad thing, so long as it steers clear of ad hominem's and sniping (which it has with the possible exception of one comment). anyhow, give me some examples of armors you want to use Not a clue. I haven't looked at CBBE armors since UNP was released, so digging through all the stuff that's out there is one of the things i'll need to do. this said, with the addition of outfit studio, adding slider support for armors is really easy and quick, and once you get it down it takes just a minute or two to create the files based on the *_1.nif Hmm, well there's nothing for it i suppose, i'll need to try my hand at this and see what the deal is, and get a better understanding of what can be achived with it.
GaiusTerminus Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I think it's become fairly apparent that a sizable group of UNP and CBBE users are 'entrenched' and will basically never switch, myself being one of them. Hopefully onesuch UNP user also is a fan of DD with free time and 3D skill.
Zadil Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 I think it's become fairly apparent that a sizable group of UNP and CBBE users are 'entrenched' and will basically never switch, myself being one of them. Hopefully onesuch UNP user also is a fan of DD with free time and 3D skill. If there is such a person I'd encourage him or her to contact either me or Min. I may not be able to work on unpb myself anymore but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to provide support wherever I'm able to, especially to those committed to such a task.
KomradePavlov Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 If there is such a person I'd encourage him or her to contact either me or Min. I may not be able to work on UNPB myself anymore but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to provide support wherever I'm able to, especially to those committed to such a task. So please break down whats going on here. Whats the dispute? Are you thinking about switching to one specific body type to save work load? I'm just really confused... Or are you just saying you cant work on one, so everyone got mad?
Zadil Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 If there is such a person I'd encourage him or her to contact either me or Min. I may not be able to work on UNPB myself anymore but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to provide support wherever I'm able to, especially to those committed to such a task. So please break down whats going on here. Whats the dispute? Are you thinking about switching to one specific body type to save work load? I'm just really confused... Or are you just saying you cant work on one, so everyone got mad? See this post.
KomradePavlov Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 See this post. Ah thank you, now I understand what is going on. I'm actually glad to know that this does not effect me too much, for I am a CBBE user! As much I really do like the paths you've opened up so far for new... NSFW mods. Cant wait for future updates!
Tepi Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Cmon, quit your whining about it. Pretty sure someone will start to convert them and while you wait you can bear with some minor clippings. Its not like your game is gonna break or that you even need to use this mod in the first place. This stuff is made for you, not to you.
windu190 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt...
Zadil Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt... Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba
KomradePavlov Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba Oh my... a harness! Didn't expect that. That's pretty exiting.
Zadil Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 look like pony gear Not quite, but it's a first step in that direction. A harness like that should provide enough opportunities for future attachments and additions to further explore such a theme and more.
windu190 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt... Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba Wow, did not see that coming. Very very nice
lkl Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 There's an awful lot of doom and gloom in this thread: Lighten up, folks. It's pretty likely given our userbase, that someone will release a port to UNPB. Remember: This mod is a hobby-project that we're doing in our spare time. No one's being paid for this. If an author doesn't feel motivated / doesn't have time to work on a particular feature, that's his/her perogative. Goodbye to UNPB and hello to cancer. If the three of you feel that strongly about it, why not contribute, and port them over to UNP yourselves? I wish. Only problem is, I lack the brain capacity to learn how to port and read complex instructions as I prefer small and simple instructions. So yeah, I would gladly contribute if I actually knew how to port.
Skull Tyrant Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt... Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba that looks amazing and with that being said im 100% sure it will be converted to at least UNPB and 7B.
Leeeeeroy Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 well, i'm trying to learn how to do the conversion, and at the momment, i'm not really confidant i'll be able to do it... or maybe i just need to try some more
pinky6225 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 And if an armor does not support bodyslide? Which is probably the case for the vast majority of all CBBE armors (and will also be the case for the DD assets), as the body has been around for years, and bodyslide much less so (i had a quick look at the nexus, only one page found for "bodyslide", and a lot of it sadly also required BBP which i do not want, as it doesen't work with DD and that would defeat the entire point). i do use CBBE myself and the majority of the armor i've tried ( a couple of the chrono trigger ones don't work if you try and HDT weight them ) are compatitble with bodyslide since even if you use CBBE unless you stick to the default body you have to use bodyslide to adjust the armor,belts etc to fit correctly. Batch building 150 armor/items to a new body shape takes about 4-5 minutes.
guyver Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt... Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba oh my, armbinder first and now this! looking forward to it!
Guest smellbo Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 So...what won? That dreadfull corset no doubt... Not exactly... (adult content) Release date: tba Oh yea boi. So excite.
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