Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

8 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I'm 80 with the SLS debuff (set at -20 to attributes). For bleedout I have Death Alternative which should initiate Defeat. What's happening is that the character goes into bleedout, so it's quite possible there's some other mod that reduces my health to null if severly injured. But quite honestly I have no clue on what might be causing this.

Sorry but I can't debug your load order. Only you can really. I don't think it can be defeat/DA as I also run them. The good news is I added a debug menu to fire beatings for testing. Shouldn't even need to be in servitude.

 

3 hours ago, Foxcrest said:

Does anyone else have an issue where the cage for dogs doesn't exist? The lock is visible and can be interacted with to do the task, and the area has collision as if the cage were there, but it has no visuals. I've seen some posts saying it's not having SD cages and some saying it's not having ZAZ 8+, but I have both of those and have never been able to work out why I can't get the cage to show up. Other cages work just fine. Not a big deal, because it doesn't effect the functionality of the mod, but I am curious if anyone knows how to fix the issue.

Reinstall zaz

[kapibar]

16 hours ago, leakim said:

Father also seems to not accept that the PC is naked. Tried de-equipping everything and waiting a bit, but I am still getting force greeted by father disappointed that I am not naked. I can add that I am [Recognized as naked] under Question Information in the MCM.

V6.4 I too experience this problem.

[tamai]

@Monoman1 hey I was wondering if you could take a look at my outfit.json list and let me know maybe if im doing it wrong?

 

so in "hasaccessories" thats where i put the outfit thats occupies the 32biped slot, however I was wondering will it allso load everything under maid? Thanks!~ (sorry for bugging you)

[Monoman1]

8 minutes ago, tamai said:

hey I was wondering if you could take a look at my outfit.json list and let me know maybe if im doing it wrong?

Your formatting is wrong. Use a json checker.

There's commas where there shouldn't be - under outfits_1

and no comma where there should be one - under maid section

 

Other than that:

1773000430 = 69ADD6EE which includes the load order index. I'm not sure if papyrusutil can proc that. Should probably use ADD6EE converted to dec

 

And:

1773000434|AAHDT Armor.esp

is defined as having accessories from "maid" but it is not part of any 'outfit_x' outfit pool. So it'll never be selected. 

[tamai]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Your formatting is wrong. Use a json checker.

There's commas where there shouldn't be - under outfits_1

and no comma where there should be one - under maid section

 

Other than that:

1773000430 = 69ADD6EE which includes the load order index. I'm not sure if papyrusutil can proc that. Should probably use ADD6EE converted to dec

 

And:

1773000434|AAHDT Armor.esp

is defined as having accessories from "maid" but it is not part of any 'outfit_x' outfit pool. So it'll never be selected. 

 

thanks! so basicalyl the first two digits are the load order? and i shouldnt convert those

[Monoman1]

28 minutes ago, tamai said:

 

thanks! so basicalyl the first two digits are the load order? and i shouldnt convert those

Yea

[leakim]

17 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

sqv pchsPlayerEquipQuest

is this quest running? If not

StartQuest  pchsPlayerEquipQuest

and check the variable again

 

The quest is toggled automatically when leaving/entering the house to save cpu. Might be that there's no code to start it just after outfit demands are made and you haven't left the house yet. 

 

Thanks for the response. I did not mention this in my earlier response, but I did in-fact exit and re-enter the home. Anyway, I tried your other suggestions here, and I can say that:

• Entering the home again did not have an effect on the value of "pchsPcIsWearingOutfit" and I am still being forced-greeted about not being naked.
• Entering the home does seem to start the quest "pchsPlayerEquipQuest", if you let father force greet you upon re-enter (if you do not, it will not be started).
• Starting the quest manually outside (before re-entering home), also does not have an effect on "pchsPcIsWearingOutfit".
• This is done on 6.3.

 

This happens even if I do everything naked. NOTE: I am a way into immersive fashion job, and I do have YPS welded piercings "equipped".

 

I will try re-performing the update on an earlier save using 6.4 and the new SLS repack later and see if that makes any difference.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

UPDATE: It seems to be the same for 6.4. PAH force-greet has been fixed, though. \o/

Edited August 5, 2021 by leakim

[leakim]

Another update to the "You should be naked" problem.

 

So I think I got it "fixed" on my end: If I put on the maid outfit and then take it off again, after getting the quest started, It seems to be working (pchsPcIsWearingOutfit is set to 100 and no more naked force-greets). So it is likely some clothes check during quest initialization that is missing.

 

And I can certainly see how this is really mostly a problem due to the mid-game update. If father starts the quest while you were wearing clothes (which would be most common) there would be no problem because the global variable would have been "initialized" to the correct value.

Edited August 5, 2021 by leakim

[leakim]

Found another potential bug:

 

It seems that father only will accept his 'Father's Slave Heels' and not the 'Immersive Fashion Job' heels that I used in v5.6 during the checks that occurrs when selecting the "Father?" dialog.

 

I can add that the global variable 'pchsPcIsWearingHeels' is set to 1.00.

 

I can also add that devious device heels, such as "Ebonite Black Slave Ballet Heels" are recognized. The heels I usually wear are from Book of UUNP (not sure what type of heels they are, but they are recognized by YPS).

[Samson Nite]

Quote leakim : UPDATE: It seems to be the same for 6.4. PAH force-greet has been fixed, though. \o/

 

Do I need PAH to be installed to have force greet PAH ?

 

[tamai]

13 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

And:

1773000434|AAHDT Armor.esp

is defined as having accessories from "maid" but it is not part of any 'outfit_x' outfit pool. So it'll never be selected. 

Okay so i think i understood all your advice but just to make sure

 

 

Outfits.json

 

does that look right?

[Samson Nite]

Father speaks too fast for Solitude travel at her extra day-off. How can daughter meet Tris in Solitude? I cannot find any marker.....

[Samson Nite]

By the way, do I still need the patch file "pchsWartimes - house interior minor patch.esp" for version 6.4 ?

[AoE_Freak]

On 8/4/2021 at 3:12 AM, Monoman1 said:

Sounds like a hole in the dialogue conditions. On checking there's a check for dog handjob animations instead of horse handjob animations. Try this esp and let me know. 

pchsWartimes.esp for version 6.3 only!

I didn't manage to check this esp before you posted 6.4, but I noticed you fixed it there! That must have been it, I had turned off all of my dog animations because I wanted to play with Brutus stuff on, but I really didn't like doing it with a dog. I'm glad my random preference helped you catch a bug! Although, shouldn't it have checked for horse blowjob animations, not handjob? I was at the part where Father made me give Brutus a blowjob... Eh, I'm just glad it works now!

 

Also, I had the same problem as someone was having a few comments ago with Father claiming I wasn't naked once I updated the game. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by AoE_Freak
Clarification

[HahaBenis]

@Monoman1 hi,

 

for some reason i cannot get 6.4 to work, there is no mcm menu and when i select the alternate start line and use the bed, screen becomes dark and after a few seconds i end up in same dungeon cell

 

i tried rolling back to version from page 24 and it seem to work without issues, at least mcm menu is there and quest starts

 

how do i find what went wrong?

[tamai]

1 minute ago, HahaBenis said:

@Monoman1 hi,

 

for some reason i cannot get 6.4 to work, there is no mcm menu and when i select the alternate start line and use the bed, screen becomes dark and after a few seconds i end up in same dungeon cell

 

i tried rolling back to version from page 24 and it seem to work without issues, at least mcm menu is there and quest starts

 

how do i find what went wrong?

 

It works for me I think maybe you dont have a requirement installed possibly? I remember that happening to me when i didn't have this mod installed https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/57046/?

[Foxcrest]

On 8/5/2021 at 1:51 AM, Monoman1 said:

Sorry but I can't debug your load order. Only you can really. I don't think it can be defeat/DA as I also run them. The good news is I added a debug menu to fire beatings for testing. Shouldn't even need to be in servitude.

 

Reinstall zaz

Thank you for being so active with responding to people's questions. Turns out I am just an idiot and had some of the meshes overwritten because I was using the ZAP collision free meshes . Anyone else having mesh related issues remember to check the 1st fricken possible issue ?‍♀️

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by Foxcrest

[Monoman1]

53 minutes ago, HahaBenis said:

@Monoman1 hi,

 

for some reason i cannot get 6.4 to work, there is no mcm menu and when i select the alternate start line and use the bed, screen becomes dark and after a few seconds i end up in same dungeon cell

 

i tried rolling back to version from page 24 and it seem to work without issues, at least mcm menu is there and quest starts

 

how do i find what went wrong?

Sounds like an install/setup issue. Redownload, reinstall, make sure there are no overwrites etc. Get UIextensions

9 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

By the way, do I still need the patch file "pchsWartimes - house interior minor patch.esp" for version 6.4 ?

no

9 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

Father speaks too fast for Solitude travel at her extra day-off. How can daughter meet Tris in Solitude? I cannot find any marker.....

How would you normally get from whiterun to solitude. Talk to Bjorlam. 

12 hours ago, tamai said:

does that look right?

It looks ok. If it works then you should receive the outfit and all accessories from father. If not reload and fix json or report a bug. 

12 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

Do I need PAH to be installed to have force greet PAH ?

yes

16 hours ago, leakim said:

Found another potential bug:

 

It seems that father only will accept his 'Father's Slave Heels' and not the 'Immersive Fashion Job' heels that I used in v5.6 during the checks that occurrs when selecting the "Father?" dialog.

 

I can add that the global variable 'pchsPcIsWearingHeels' is set to 1.00.

 

I can also add that devious device heels, such as "Ebonite Black Slave Ballet Heels" are recognized. The heels I usually wear are from Book of UUNP (not sure what type of heels they are, but they are recognized by YPS).

They might not be high enough. Check your mirror. 

 

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 I don't know if it's supposed to work like this, but the "check up" forcegreet unwraps somewhat unusually. The first time the father orders PC to present herself the forcegreet goes into loop, without any dialogue for the player. I figured out the PC is supposed to do one of the poses. Doing this progressed the dialogue, but posing was never required after that, the dialogue went normally, with the usual idle animation. If that's the way it's supposed to work - OK, but there should be some kind of explanation on what the player is should do. And also it would be nice if the idle changed during the dialogue or the requirement to pose was enforced in future forcegreets.

[leakim]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

They might not be high enough. Check your mirror. 

 

Ah. The heels have a height of 4.5 and are NiO,

 

In v5.6 I explicitly changed the required height from 5.0 to 4.0 in Wartimes MCM and YPS MCM in order to be able to use these specific heels. This was before you changed the default to 4.0 as well in v6.3.

 

Could it be that it is not using the "pchsPcIsWearingHeels" value during the "Father?" dialog, and instead doing a custom check that does not handle NiO height properly? I do not *believe* I am getting complaints about these heels during force-greets.

 

I can add that I have just tried configuring required height lower again, and re-equipping the heels, but he still do not like these heels.

 

I also tried the Stiletto Heels from Cursed Loot (specifically "College Stiletto Heels") which are also NiO and has a height of 8.0. They also do not pass this check. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by leakim

[jperrins66]

53 minutes ago, Leoosp said:

@Monoman1 @pchs Please update the Alternate Start link to one of the following addresses:-

 

 

 

The link to Nexus Mods is no longer valid as the file hosted there has been erased, thus rendering it unavailable for download.

Well that is going to put a spanner in the works for their "collections" plan, at this rate their going to lose the most used mods off their site.

[safado]

3 hours ago, Leoosp said:

@Monoman1 @pchs Please update the Alternate Start link to one of the following addresses:-

 

Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Gameplay Changes - AFK Mods

http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/1108-live-another-life/

http://www.theassimilationlab.com/forums/files/file/809-alternate-start-live-another-life/

 

The link to Nexus Mods is no longer valid as the file hosted there has been erased, thus rendering it unavailable for download.

 

 

That is just one of many Arthmoor mods including Unofficial Skyrim Patch series, Cutting Room Floor, and so on.   

 

His site is at www.afkmods.com.  If you like or need his mods get them from his site and support him.  They are more up to date there anyway. 

Link to his files at afkmods.

 

 

 

[Scrab]

@Monoman1

Got bored and integrated Ap into this cause why not, you can technically use this esp for further development (assuming LE and SE use the same esp, I didnt actually check which version I downloaded kek). Integration into AP is done through StorageUtil so the mod isnt referenced anywhere here, I only added 2 Quests into the esp for the Integration - and I had no clue where to find the Erik thing so I didnt add that, yay

 

ap wartimes.7z

 

For users:

Going by the assumption that the esp is the same in both versions, you take your current V6.4 of this mod and just overwrite it with this "patch" here. It includes the 6.4 esp with 2 additional quests to hook into AP and associated scripts. You take it, merge it, call it a day. The dragoon will have a new Mainoption called "Wartimes" at the bottom, you click that and go through the door, like usual. Yay!

 

Link to AP in my sig, link to LE version of AP in the first line of the SE version, yay²

Edited August 6, 2021 by Scrab

[lcewolf]

I found few glitches with the new version.

 

The first one is after "the shopping run naked" You father is unhappy to see you naked when you come back home (Valid for both outfit)

 

The second is I didn't find how to activate the whipping scene without the (Y= Wheel command) (Very nice same as the beating) But when you use the wheel menu

you receive the beating/whipping and after the pass-out scene maybe 3 or 5 minutes after your PC Collapse on the ground without any possibility to stand up on her own. You need to use the Wheel menu again and activate the Whipping scene and your character will stand up.

 

The third one the Spanking animation. I got 2-3 Animation for spanking but strangely there are not selectionned when the animation start. I can pick any of them in the menu when the animation start.  What animation did you use? i use this one https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3999-billyys-slal-animations-2021-8-1/

[safado]

 

  Personal Patch to make pchsWartimes (any version) and Enhanced Lighting for ENB (ELE) - Special Edition - (ELE - SE) work together.

 

• Enhanced Lighting for ENB (ELE) - Special Edition being a light modification mod need to be close to the bottom of the load list and overrides nearly every interior cell record.  
• WarTimes modifies ChillfurrowFarm (Cell Block 8 sub 2) to be owned by ChillfurrowFarmFaction [FACT:0010DE9D] instead of Wilmuth "Wilmuth" [NPC_:0009CCD9] to properly setup the task for old man Jazeem. 

Any mod that modified the same cell record will revert the ownership entry and break the task requirements.  Normally at the beginning of the task the player gets added to ChillfurrowFarmFaction and gets a copy of the key. After the completion of the task the player get removed from the faction and any other NPC still in the faction will force the player out of the property.  If the record gets overwritten, Jazeem and any NPC in the property will force you out of the property before any dialogue can take place.

 

This patch merge ELE-SE changes with Wartimes Chillfurrow Farm requirements for oldman task.  Also, adds ELE-SE entries to the pchsHome interior cell following the others Whiterun cells interior settings and change the Sky/Weather from Region records (XCCM) from WeatherTundra [REGN:000C5858] to WeatherWhiterun [REGN:00070408].

 

Normally sorted automatically to the bottom by loot. Place near the bottom of mod list if other mods also modify Chillfurrow interior cell.

This is only tested for SkyrimSE and is in ESP - ESL flag format.  

 

 

 

 

pchsWartimes Tweaks ELE Patch.esp

 

 

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Edited August 6, 2021 by safado