crazyduck Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Stuker said: Same as crazyduck. 350 mods merged into 250 esp. CTD are ultra rare for me. As long as you have a solid rig there's no point in not using DD. Ok you have to put in a lot of work to get there but it is worth it. Not using DD left you out of so much amazing mods... True a solid Rig , some "work" to optimize Skyrim and some Mods and it works. There is only 1 Mod i will not install cause i always really always have Issues with it, thats Sanguines Debauchy i dont know why but this Mod really dont like my Setup.
karlpaws Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 I'll mention this because I like the mod, and will probably keep it for the other features it has... but Sexlab Leveling does have a Defeat-like rape system but no yielding (why I have such high hopes for this mod). It also has an essential-player function so it could work as a very light weight stopgap until that is integrated into DiD. The other thing I like about it is an alternate leveling system of sorts... you get a point each time the PC has sex (no configuration for type or con/non-con though, or animal/human, etc. but you can set it for unique partners required). The points you get can be spent on resistance effects, armor, spell cost reduction and damage increase.
karlpaws Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 I've a question or three for a possible bug report... How far is far enough away when you're dealing with a wilderness cell? Also, if you surrender to an enemy and then another NPC, not a follower, kills that enemy before the rape starts, what happens? I was fighting a pack of wolves when my PC surrendered, but a hunter nearby was fighting one of them and killed it and the rest of the pack while my PC stood around waiting. When they were all dead, I couldn't loot them (people watching message) and couldn't use any spells, or even raise my fists. I ran off about 5 wilderness cells away, returned, went a little farther and entered a cave, exited and went half a hold away, but still couldn't loot, couldn't talk to any NPCs but could pick crops and herbs. I came across another wolf along the way and it was friendly/pacified, but eventually found a pack of skeevers to fight. I tried to surrender to them but it didn't succeed. The "I surrender" and "You win" voice lines did play however. After my "death" when Leveling kicked in, I was able to fight the skeevers but still couldn't loot. Entered a house, killed the skeevers there, could read and take books and use the cooking spit. I was able to fast travel and went to anther place wolves always spawn but they were friendly there as well. I could attack them and they would fight me, but surrendering did nothing.
Maddac Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 7:36 AM, AthenaESIV said: I really like the idea of sexual fame, and how other mods could use it... But I've seen people say it is a terrible performance hog, and experienced it myself. I really wish there were a lightweight alternative to this mod that did half of what it did without all the cloaks and cell scans... It tries to do *way* too much. there is a really easy fix to stop Sexlab Sexual Fame from being a performance hog, just go to second page Customization NPC and under Equipment for Naked Submissive, disable Allow Re-Equip. it stops the mod from trying to reclothe all the NPC's in a cell and adding zaz collars to them. you will find it improves performance dramatically, otherwise its an awesome mod 1
SkyAddiction Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, karlpaws said: I've a question or three for a possible bug report... [...] Also, if you surrender to an enemy and then another NPC, not a follower, kills that enemy before the rape starts, what happens? [...] I could attack them and they would fight me, but surrendering did nothing. I didn't look too hard and I'm shit at coding, but I don't think that's a foreseen outcome. i.e.: Code Serpent didn't expect it and therefore there's no termination to the failed assault, so you're kind of stuck and in need of a previous save. That's fairly game-breaking and given how quickly Code Serpent tends to update, I'd expect it to be fixed sooner rather than later. It's worth noting that this mod doesn't need clean saves if you're not involved in a combat surrender event. Just install the latest version and go, though I'd keep a backup if you don't use MO just to follow good modding practice. @Code Serpent This is an exceptionally well-built mod. It's clean, lean, and feature-full. Hands-down, it's going to be the single best combat surrender mod ever made - a fantastic example of the KISS principle in action.
karlpaws Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, SkyAddiction said: I don't think that's a foreseen outcome. there's no termination to the failed assault That's pretty much what I thought, since I've seen the same kind of logic failure in other mods. I asked to make sure I wasn't missing something, like a Debug button to end/close any events from the mod like other modders have put in.
SkyAddiction Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, karlpaws said: That's pretty much what I thought, since I've seen the same kind of logic failure in other mods. I asked to make sure I wasn't missing something, like a Debug button to end/close any events from the mod like other modders have put in. It's a pretty simple failure to fix. I'd do it, but this is an actively developed mod by an author who has skills an order of magnitude higher than mine.
Maddac Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 I have been playing with the latest version 1.02 and have noticed that the only stats i have affected is sex distraction and sex perversion and devious devices dependency, no effect to alcohol addiction/withdrawal stats even though I have drunk a lot of alcohol. in version 1.01 it worked properly so i don't know whats changed. I even tried it on a new game and still no affect. my system has over 300 mods merged down to 244. its already script heavy and if i add Milk Mod Economy (MME) to the mix it causes significant script lag as that mod is very script heavy. One other question. if i don't have MME installed do i just disable the MCM button for enable character to become a milk maid? It would be good if your mod detected if other mods like MME are installed or not and disabled buttons if required mods are not installed. Otherwise a great mod, my female dragonborn is now a total sex slut/whore that craves sex all the time and begs others to have sex with her. i laughed when she rubbed up and writhed against a storekeeper and he was surprised. it doesn't help her when she begs for sex and has it outside and a guard prosecutes her (through deviously cursed loot). i use sexlab sexual fame as well which adds to the fun comments by other NPC's
CynicalCore Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 7 hours ago, crazyduck said: Vividian ENB and Vivid Weathers was only one i liked from the design. Ok here is it... Play with snap dragon or k enb and set the settings of high and you will definitely get CTDs... And no ENB isn't just GPU. And my rig is actually good. I7 8700k, 32 GB RAM, 1080TI, 2Tb SSD
SkyAddiction Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, C0R3G4M3R said: Ok here is it... Play with snap dragon or k enb and set the settings of high and you will definitely get CTDs... And no ENB isn't just GPU. And my rig is actually good. I7 8700k, 32 GB RAM, 1080TI, 2Tb SSD I have a similar system. You have to consider that ENB + Mods + HDT PE all draw off the same resources. You can make a more stable build by reducing one of them: You can go with a less demanding ENB (Snapdragon is massively demanding), fewer mods, or you can exchange HDT PE for HDT SMP. The latter requires a lot of reading and editing, so it might be better for you personally to reduce one or both of the former. It's a zero sum game, as they're all competing for the same resources - a less defined ENB and fewer mods v. more stable game and HDT PE, or HDT SMP v. ENB and mods. Pick your poison and stick with it. Or not, as it may be; there's no one right way. It's up to you to decide what things you value more.
Guest AthenaESIV Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, Maddac said: there is a really easy fix to stop Sexlab Sexual Fame from being a performance hog, just go to second page Customization NPC and under Equipment for Naked Submissive, disable Allow Re-Equip. it stops the mod from trying to reclothe all the NPC's in a cell and adding zaz collars to them. you will find it improves performance dramatically, otherwise its an awesome mod Awesome tip, tyty will do this for sure.
Lupine00 Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 9 hours ago, crazyduck said: There is only 1 Mod i will not install cause i always really always have Issues with it, thats Sanguines Debauchy i dont know why but this Mod really dont like my Setup. SD+ has certainly had a lot of bugs in it, but... It seems to be in one of its best states for a long time right now. One "tip" for getting an SD+ that works is... Spoiler 1) Do not install SD+ when you start your game. Add it after you've already started and configured SexLab, SLA(R), and all its dependencies. 2) Put it last in your LO. You can add more mods after SD+, later, after it is up and running, and has run its updates, as long as those mods are not stuff that modifies dialogs or NPCs, or world cells. Never let LOOT sort your SD+. LOOT is plain wrong about SD+. I confirmed this by examining the overwrites in Tes5Edit. LOOT simply has no clue. If you let it sort SD+ it will put it quite early, and critical stuff will be overwritten by many popular mods. Furthermore, SD+ will not warn you if you are missing SL Dialogues, but Dialogues is absolutely required for it to work. Also, you cannot have SL Stories Devious without SL Stories. I suggest you install all of SL Stories, SL Stories Devious, SL Hormones and SL Parasites, in addition to all the parts of SD+ (SDPlus, SDResources, and SLDialogues). Also, any location other than last prevents you adding it in after game start, and you really should do that. The threading in SD+ is brittle, and trying to start it along with lots of other mods, all adding a lot of script load at once, can end in a broken SD+. Also, there is a patch from Inte for SD+ that might improve or fix a few things. It should be added when you add the SDPlus ESP if you're going to use it. On the topic of SD+, it would be nice if DBiD captors could sell you into SS, or enslave you via SD+, if you are bad at escaping. (Maybe it already can? I haven't tried it yet, but I might get a chance to try is soon). Possibly, DBiD could add some special and a "submissive" addiction to work with slavery mods in general, and SD+ in specific. There are factions and keywords for detecting enslavement. Presumably broken Dragonborn feels safer when somebody else is in control, making all the hard decisions, and yet it might also increase trauma in some cases, if you get punished a lot? Currently, I'm using DA+Defeat because it works with SD+ can enslave directly on defeat rather than going through SS, but I'd love to get rid of DA+Defeat. I liked DCL combat defeat but it still can't enslave directly into SD+, and the defeat scenarios are limited, generally.
bearcano Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Fantastic mod, one suggestion I have is really simple: The names for the states! Instead of "Hazy" I suggest "Skittish" which I think is more accurate for what you're going for there. Another would be "Shaken" Generally "Hazy" just makes me think they're semi-drugged when I think you're going more for "on-edge"
Whizkid Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, bearcano said: Fantastic mod, one suggestion I have is really simple: The names for the states! Instead of "Hazy" I suggest "Skittish" which I think is more accurate for what you're going for there. Another would be "Shaken" Generally "Hazy" just makes me think they're semi-drugged when I think you're going more for "on-edge" imo, dizzy or dazed would be more appropriate
NigDickRick Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 16 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said: Hmm, i didn't experience much bloat. It's possible though that it has some optional features that do which i turned off, do you have more details? Maybe we can figure something out. DD shouldn't do much if you don't use the items, if your plugins aren't full just install it might be a legit option to solve this. You need to build the items via bodyslide. @Code SerpentAre you aware of this mods: So far i didn't try any of them, but i could imagine they either conflict or work very well together with yours and possibly some collaboration with the respective authors could save you some work. About the bodyslide thing for DD to work, is it bodyslide or the outfit studio, because the outfit studio confuses me and I dont know what to do to get it to work
SpyVsPie Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 This is one of those things that makes me think about actually playing the game again instead of just messing around with mods and screenshots ?. Looks really promising, will be keeping an eye on this for sure!
Fruktoza Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Hello again. Advice: for now, realize the possibility of disabling auto-delivery in battle, as well as DEC auto-shutdown upon surrender. With shock, trauma and surrender, you still need to work. Sorry for my English.
nijadbahnam Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Interesting mode but should have essential option and some after defeat scenarios like simple slavery or Sanguine Debauchery for bandits stormcloaks and other humanoid Factions. maybe a breeding mode for creature factions where Falmers will make the dragon-born and female companions as brood-mothers for them . chaurus and tentacles ( with estrus mode). i currently use defeat with death alternative with SD and simple slavery for after defeat scenarios.
Nazzzgul666 Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, NigDickRick said: About the bodyslide thing for DD to work, is it bodyslide or the outfit studio, because the outfit studio confuses me and I dont know what to do to get it to work Bodyslide. It's not hard, but i have a guide in my sig in case you need help.
White Banshee Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Is this mod suitable for a male character?
Church the Cat Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 For anybody having issues with the MCM not showing up. Jaxonz MCM Kicker - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/57795 1
NigDickRick Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said: Bodyslide. It's not hard, but i have a guide in my sig in case you need help. Ill take a look thanks
Felecia_Runlikeagirl Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 why cant i loot anything after defeat. says i cant loot with all these people watching me ? it persist even if i get away from them.
donttouchmethere Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 5:05 PM, angrykiwi said: Is there a way to disable comments from PC? could you tell me what PC comments you saw with DiD? Trying to find out what mods have player comments
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