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4 minutes ago, Mancubus said:

Would this replace Sexlab - Defeat, or does it work with it?

This mod was designed as an alternative to SexLab Defeat's Player as a Victim. Though, you can still use the two at the same time if you disable Player as a Victim in Defeat, or if you disable Automatic Surrender in this mod.

Posted
4 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

This mod was designed as an alternative to SexLab Defeat's Player as a Victim. Though, you can still use the two at the same time if you disable Player as a Victim in Defeat, or if you disable Automatic Surrender in this mod.

Okay, thanks.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Conan_Chick said:

Ok to run with Shout like a virgin? Will make staying one hard. Lol. 

I'm not sure, I've never used that mod.

7 minutes ago, lanastara said:

Is this compartible with Prison Overhaul and Skooma Whore?

 

Or does it try to replace those as well?

You can disable the crime surrender, and use Prison Overhaul instead if you want. Using skooma whore with this mod might cause some issues, since they both try to do the same thing.

3 minutes ago, Deutsche_Cookie said:

Do other creatures have sex with you on surrender, or it's limited to listed in OP?

If the creature is listed as a predator, such as bears, wolves, sabre cats, etx., then you should be able to surrender to them. Otherwise, just the ones listed.

2 minutes ago, afa said:

Are there toggles for the various effects?

Some looks quite interesting, some a little more on the fringe side.

There aren't any toggles. Though, I'm open to suggestions if you feel some effects too harsh or not harsh enough.

Posted

So, this is amazing. I've always tried to rely on apropos for that after rape trauma effect, but it isn't quite the same. My suggestions, and please, take them just as my suggestions, and not a knock at all towards the amazing content you have created. I have always wanted a different outcome for surrendering in Defeat, because whether you surrender or get beaten down, the outcome is the same.

 

A slider for how far your PC can fall into trauma. I am interested in the need to drink or take skooma. Not sure if I would use the hysterical or broken setting. A slider or options for how deep you go into each level might help also. IE in SL Skooma Whore you can set how addicted you get between I think easy, medium, or hard. I forget the settings.

 

If able to toggle off/on each of the addiction aspects. I don't use milk mod myself, and I like the whore setting except I've never been big on Chastity Belts and usually disable them. So maybe if each addiction had a menu to toggle certain parts on/off. It would just allow some more customization.

 

Also, are you willing to try to tie this into Bleedout in DAYMOYL? Would be nice to have an alternative to Defeat. I miss the old Sexlab Submit at times, but it wasn't updated to keep up over the years. Also maybe an option on what bondage devices from DD get equipped, or just normal binds like Submit used to have.

 

Oh, and the only other thing I can think of, does this only use aggressive animations? I didn't see a setting. Going to install it and dabble with it now.

 

Amazing work.

Posted
1 minute ago, Code Serpent said:

If the creature is listed as a predator, such as bears, wolves, sabre cats, etx., then you should be able to surrender to them. Otherwise, just the ones listed.

Do effects from your mod (trauma, addiction, etc.) apply after rapes from other mods (like defeat or horrible harassment)? 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Deutsche_Cookie said:

Do effects from your mod (trauma, addiction, etc.) apply after rapes from other mods (like defeat or horrible harassment)? 

At the moment, only abuse caused by this mod increases trauma.

Posted

So only my companion is raped with me.
After this scene, I was tied to a yoke in a crypta "beamed" where other vampires then killed me.
  :classic_huh:

Posted
39 minutes ago, Krynn said:

So only my companion is raped with me.
After this scene, I was tied to a yoke in a crypta "beamed" where other vampires then killed me.
  :classic_huh:

What dungeon were you in?

Posted
44 minutes ago, Code Serpent said:

What dungeon were you in?

 

I was attacked outside of vampires, after the surrender and the rape of my companion, I was inside a ruin and was killed.
Unfortunately I do not know the name, I reloaded afterwards. somewhere west of rorikstatt.

 

 

Posted

Ohhh I'l definitely be watching this. Don't really wanna install it quite yet since I'm mid playthrough, but it'll definitely be in there sooner or later. I'd love to see compatibility with SD+ for the Broken state, DA just cuz I think it would kind of need it, as well as MCM options to turn on/off certain aspects of states or addictions.

 

Overall, super excited to see this mod being developed and I wish you luck!

Posted

My test with this has the issue where the bandits in the dungeons turned hostile again immediately after the teleport to a jail cell, specifically the fort due west of Whiterun (I don't recall the actual name).  I'm also unable to surrender again while escaping, which doesn't make much sense to me. 

 

I also got stuck in scenery after teleporting in the silent moons camp interior area.

Posted

Congratulations on publishing this mod, Code Serpent!  This looks very promising.

 

How does the combat defeat handle a follower?  For example, if the PC loses enough health to trigger a surrender but the follower is still healthy, does combat continue until the follower is defeated too?  (That would be similar to the "All Down" setting in Defeat.)

 

You might consider adding an option to have a follower wait rather than be dismissed when the PC is imprisoned.  Dismissing a Devious Follower would probably play hell with that mod, and probably wouldn't be good for a quest follower either. 

 

Any plans to eventually support a Simple Slavery outcome? 

 

Suggestion:  Resting for 8 hours in a bed in a player home or inn should probably help with trauma at any level of severity.  It would also give players who don't use Milk Maid or Estrus Chaurus a way to remedy the Broken condition.  Since you're trying to balance relief with addiction, perhaps long periods of bed rest while traumatized could lead to a psychological addition to sleeping (those mornings when it seems best to just pull the covers over your head and ignore the day). 

Posted
24 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Suggestion:  Resting for 8 hours in a bed in a player home or inn should probably help with trauma at any level of severity.  It would also give players who don't use Milk Maid or Estrus Chaurus a way to remedy the Broken condition.  Since you're trying to balance relief with addiction, perhaps long periods of bed rest while traumatized could lead to a psychological addition to sleeping (those mornings when it seems best to just pull the covers over your head and ignore the day). 

I'll be giving the mod a shot in the next couple days myself.

 

Possible name for the sleep addiction idea, if that works: Depression

 

"Why bother getting out of bed / leave the house? I'll just get beaten and raped anyway."

 

Cure for it could be time spent in a town temple perhaps?

Posted

Gave this a run on SSE, after resaving it in the 64-bit CK. Seems to work well. Manually surrendering works, the scenes work, and my PC ended up in bondage and debuffed. The concept is very promising and the mod appears to work very smoothly and reliably! I'll definitely be testing this more!

 

I understand that you don't want to get into the "items stolen + retrieve quest", but could you have the PC's items unequipped? It seems strange for her to be redressed after being raped and held in captivity.

 

Also, the PC was able to walk out her place of detention (White River Watch) without the bandits going hostile. This was tested in a new game that I don't believe has any other mods in it that alter NPC factions/AI.

Posted

After testing this for a bit, I have a few suggested features to add. The first would for sure be the option to save our chosen settings, so we don't have to set them again for every new play-through. After that, an option to set the player to essential to avoid death before the auto-surrender activates. Lastly, an option for the attackers to rob gold and other valuables worth over a configurable amount of gold. Other than those suggested updates, I'm loving this mod's efficiency and speed at which it bounces from attacker to attacker. This is a welcome addition to my load order. Thank you.

Posted

How exactly are you supposed to escape post-defeat if you can't fight, and are slowed to a walk? (And possibly deviced as well).

 

In DA or Defeat, or DA+Defeat, this might repeat once or twice, but then you'll get a "ported away" outcome, unless you turned them all off, or you'll get enslaved.

 

Either way, you get an end to the rape-loop without too much pointless rape-looping.

 

 

Also, how does this interact with SD+ or DF or SS? Are there any slavery outcomes? Or is that not a thing?

 

 

Can somebody who has played this explain how it works in DBiD in practice?

Posted

Hello, is it odd that the mod's MCM does not show up at all on a new game? Or does it need some other requirements?

 

Only got the 1.62 main framework & aroused redux installed.

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